The positive MW3 thread [Archive]

SiberianPenguin

08-21-2011, 08:21 PM

I´m looking forward to it after seeing a balanced perks list, however some killsreaks and deathstreaks kinda bugs me, in september when i get more info about multi i would say if i will buy it or not!

just the concept of kill and death streaks makes multiplayer unbalanced. lets reward a player who's already proven he'll win the game for his team by killing the enemy 10 times without dieing a controllable aircraft that can get another 10+ kills!

rising91

08-21-2011, 11:47 PM

just the concept of kill and death streaks makes multiplayer unbalanced. lets reward a player who's already proven he'll win the game for his team by killing the enemy 10 times without dieing a controllable aircraft that can get another 10+ kills!

Unfortunely i have to agree with you, killstreaks in mw3 will be out of control specially because each kill you get using killsteaks will count again which in my opinion is ♥♥♥♥.Deathstreaks another bad thing and probably shotguns and machine pistols as secondary.Everything that Black Ops did good they are not keeping it, don´t understand why.Black Ops is not perfect(second chance, ghost ♥♥♥♥♥es, bull♥♥♥♥ snipers and poorly optmimization) but is balanced.So far the only thing that i am happy it´s the perks, they are defenitely balanced!

OrangeNinja

08-22-2011, 12:25 AM

Unfortunely i have to agree with you, killstreaks in mw3 will be out of control specially because each kill you get using killsteaks will count again which in my opinion is ♥♥♥♥.Deathstreaks another bad thing and probably shotguns and machine pistols as secondary.Everything that Black Ops did good they are not keeping it, don´t understand why.Black Ops is not perfect(second chance, ghost ♥♥♥♥♥es, bull♥♥♥♥ snipers and poorly optmimization) but is balanced.So far the only thing that i am happy it´s the perks, they are defenitely balanced!

I thought they got rid of it (stacking killstreaks) in black ops. S:
I agree with you on the deathstreaks tho, its really annoying emptying clips at someone with painkiller when his team-mate kills you. -.-

About the shotties - pretty sure they'll make them primaries.
In one of the photos some shotty (I think the AA-12?) had Holo sight + silencer, and since Warlord (or w/e it called in MW3) only gives the primary 2 attachments = its a primary. O:
Correct me if I'm wrong tho...

Assassin1471

08-22-2011, 06:17 AM

About the shotties - pretty sure they'll make them primaries.
In one of the photos some shotty (I think the AA-12?) had Holo sight + silencer, and since Warlord (or w/e it called in MW3) only gives the primary 2 attachments = its a primary. O:
Correct me if I'm wrong tho...

nah, warlord ( or bling how it is known in mw3 ) gives 3 attachments to primary ( default 2 without the perk ) and 2 to secondary ( default 1 without the perk )

it could still be a secondary

The Ferox

08-22-2011, 07:35 AM

Overkill is some stupidass perk. The only disadvantage you get is that you miss a perk slot. Unless it will not be compatible with tubes, it's the new OMA, or at least sort of.

Assassin1471

08-22-2011, 07:37 AM

Overkill is some stupidass perk. The only disadvantage you get is that you miss a perk slot. Unless it will not be compatible with tubes, it's the new OMA, or at least sort of.

yeah overkill was a terrible perk. even if u did lose a perk over it.

if you want 2 primary weapons u should kill someone and swap with ur secondary.

The Ferox

08-22-2011, 07:41 AM

yeah overkill was a terrible perk. even if u did lose a perk over it.

if you want 2 primary weapons u should kill someone and swap with ur secondary.

Or just use Scavenger if you need that much ammo. Now that I think of it, wtf, if Scavenger and Overkill arent in the same shot you would gain ♥♥♥♥♥loads of bullets to spray with.

MANFACE

08-22-2011, 08:00 AM

There is way too many mw3 vs bf3 threads, but this one is all about mw3.

Who pre-ordered mw3 and is looking forward to it?

Please don't mention bf3, not saying it's a bad game, but this is a mw3 forum.

So who can't want to play it? :D

I ain't looking forward to it, and I ain't buying it.

BF3 looks the Dogs balls.

Jason Sensation

08-22-2011, 08:10 AM

Perhaps some people can't read? It's the POSITIVE MW3 thread.

rotaugen454

08-22-2011, 08:18 AM

Perhaps some people can't read? It's the POSITIVE MW3 thread.

Maybe they are POSITIVE it won't be that great? ;)

doomgc

08-22-2011, 08:26 AM

LOL I was so glad to finnaly see a positive thread...and now they are back raging against mw3 again...on a mw3 forum...about the mw3 game. do you get it? still talking about the awesomeness of bf3 ? damn it. lost cause.

Anyway, I can,t wait to play coop survival with a friend relaly look addictive. + coop spec-ops mission + the solo mode that looks awesome. and, obviously the multiplayer. I really got the feelings that IW lissten to the player. we can already see some things we loved comming back (the g36c, love it ) they are actually trying to ballance everything, they got a special team to find bug and glitche that would give advantage to some player, they are tweaking the dammaga ratio of the different weapon every day while testing to bring the best balance of everything. Seriously, I'm 22, and still I'm excited about this game. I'm a fan of mw2 wich a got a lot of fun (we seem to forget the purpose of this btw) with myu friends. even through some cheater problems, I know you can still make fun of it and enjoy bad ♥♥♥ moment with friends. whats your tought about the upcomming mw3? pre-ordered?

MANFACE

08-22-2011, 08:28 AM

?

fail.

doomgc

08-22-2011, 08:32 AM

fail.

HA ha. lol.

AeneasXI

08-22-2011, 08:55 AM

Maybe they are POSITIVE it won't be that great? ;)
yeah since Activision utterly destroyed Infinity Ward and now Sledgehammer has to hold the pathetic rest of IW by the hand so they can actually still develop a game!

This game will be utter fail since all creativity is gone from IW and thus also from MW3

Next bad thing is the game was only developed in 1years time. That is nothing! It is way too short to actually realise a sequel which it wants to be! This is really just a copy+paste moneygrab...

Very postitive that it won't be great yeah ;)

SiberianPenguin

08-22-2011, 08:57 AM

Perhaps some people can't read? It's the POSITIVE MW3 thread.

If you find something positive that's drastically different from the previous two games, feel free to let us know.

Stormy1

08-22-2011, 09:00 AM

How about anyone who has something bad to say about the game don't make a post?

Easy as that.

AeneasXI

08-22-2011, 09:03 AM

How about anyone who has something bad to say about the game don't make a post?

Easy as that.
There really is not alot positive to say about this game tbh...

Nothing really new, only 1 year development time, developed by a studio they(acti) actually killed after MW2, a rediculous pricetag of 60$/€, paid MAPPACKS, no free dlc, no preorder bonus, no bonus for customers of previous games, no MOD SDK tool not even a new graphics engine also it will be made mainly for consoles and just ported to pc. Should I go on?...

remrem44

08-22-2011, 09:05 AM

It is POSITIVELY the most IMPRESSIVELY overpriced DLC I have ever seen in a game called MW3.

See I used positively and impressively in all the same sentence with MW3. So where's my cookie?

The Ferox

08-22-2011, 09:27 AM

a rediculous pricetag of 60$/€

Retail.

paid MAPPACKS, no free dlc

Nothing new. You don't have to buy DLC.

no preorder bonus

/care about any TF2 hats.

no bonus for customers of previous games

Doesn´t happen too often, idk if EA will.

no MOD SDK tool not even a new graphics engine

My guess is that mods will be there, but unranked, just like in BO, and graphics =/= gameplay, CSS and TF2 being the perfect examples.

also it will be made mainly for consoles and just ported to pc

/care, as long as a game is playable and fun.

AeneasXI

08-22-2011, 09:31 AM

Retail.

Nothing new. You don't have to buy DLC.

/care about any TF2 hats.

Doesn´t happen too often, idk if EA will.

My guess is that mods will be there, but unranked, just like in BO, and graphics =/= gameplay, CSS and TF2 being the perfect examples.

/care, as long as a game is playable and fun.

DLC is supposed to be free in the first place like it always was! and yes for a mp game I have to buy the dlc in order to play the game fully. Also maps arent even really dlc and it NEVER in any game was a paid addition to the game. Not even EA dared to to that.
Paid expansion packs are totally legitimate, if they contain enough content etc... but a mappack for 15€ is rediculous!

Preorder bonus could be 10% off the regular price for example. no hats needed. I guess you don't care about a discount too?

EA will not, but EA issn't the greatest publisher in the world either. And only because EA doesn't do it doesn't mean it wouldn't be nice to do so. (red orchestra 2 does it, stalker did it and there are more examples of companies giving customers of previous installments a discount. Philipp of macedon did it too.)

CSS and TF2 are bad examples for mods that MW3 maybe could have since HAFLIFE did have a SDK so the original mods were developed from that. COD MW3 will have NO SDK which means no mods. AT ALL!
And css and tf2 are fully published retail games and no mods anymore.

Stormy1

08-22-2011, 09:33 AM

a rediculous pricetag of 60$/€

It's only 60 USD. 60.00 USD = 41.7091 EUR

If it's 60 euro then I suggest getting someone for UK/NA to buy it for you.

The Ferox

08-22-2011, 09:34 AM

DLC is supposed to be free in the first place like it always was!

Was, things change, unfortunately :(

and yes for a mp game I have to buy the dlc in order to play the game fully

Since when is that? I can play BC2, MW2 and BO perfectly fine without DLC.

Preorder bonus could be 10% off the regular price for example. no hats needed. I guess you don't care about a discount too?

Of course I'd love to, but then I actually buy games retail, which usually is 15%-20% cheaper if you know where to look.

And no there will be NO mods. Your guess is wrong. NO SDK means NO mods. period.

Did they say that there will be no SDK? Where? (not offensive, I just didn't knew this)

The Ferox

08-22-2011, 09:37 AM

CSS and TF2 are bad examples for mods

I was talking about the graphics there, because the argument that it uses a 4-year old engine is BS.

Stormy1

08-22-2011, 09:38 AM

DLC is supposed to be free in the first place like it always was! and yes for a mp game I have to buy the dlc in order to play the game fully.

Vietnam is the same price the the Black Ops/MW2 map packs.

Also maps arent even really dlc and it NEVER in any game was a paid addition to the game. Not even EA dared to to that.

Paid expansion packs are totally legitimate, if they contain enough content etc... but a mappack for 15€ is rediculous!

Why are we complaining about map packs? This is a whole new game.

AeneasXI

08-22-2011, 09:39 AM

I was talking about the graphics there, because the argument that it uses a 4-year old engine is BS.
Why is it BS?
CSS is on a completely different engine than CS was.
What is your point? MW3 will have the same engine as MW2 which is sad to say the least!

Vietnam is the same price the the Black Ops/MW2 map packs.

Why are we complaining about map packs? This is a whole new game.
Vietnam is also a proper expansion and not just a mappack. Your point?

5new maps, 6new vehicles, 16new weapons, new soundtrack, new voice overs...

Stormy1

08-22-2011, 09:39 AM

Why is it BS?
CSS is on a completely different engine than CS was.
What is your point? MW3 will have the same engine as MW2 which is sad to say the least!

The engine doesn't need to be upgraded, it perfectly on par if not better then most modern games.

The Ferox

08-22-2011, 09:40 AM

Why is it BS?
CSS is on a completely different engine than CS was.
What is your point? MW3 will have the same engine as MW2 which is sad to say the least!

My point is that regardless of how a game looks it still can be great fun to play.

Obii

08-22-2011, 09:42 AM

Stormy1

08-22-2011, 09:44 AM

Positives? hhhhmmmmmmm..... ah here's one; it'll keep those fps laggers who don't have the funds to upgrade their systems off of BF3? too soon?

suppose it'll be a decent enough campaign unlike Brink.

I just upgraded to a 6870 to play new games coming out like mw3, skyrim and bf3, so saying mw3 players don't have money is kinda stupid.

AeneasXI

08-22-2011, 09:45 AM

The engine doesn't need to be upgraded, it perfectly on par if not better then most modern games.
Then they shouldn't charge full price maybe? Since then it is no new game but just a standalone addon of MW2

Stormy1

08-22-2011, 09:47 AM

Then they shouldn't charge full price maybe? Since then it is no new game but just an addon to MW2

When does a popular game ever come out at a lower price? Never, so that is not expected at all.

And a new campaign is not really an add on for me.

The Ferox

08-22-2011, 09:48 AM

Then they shouldn't charge full price maybe? Since then it is no new game but just a standalone addon of MW2

Wtf are you talking about? So then all Source games are supposed to be based off of each other? Doesn't make much sense does it?

AeneasXI

08-22-2011, 09:51 AM

Wtf are you talking about? So then all Source games are supposed to be based off of each other? Doesn't make much sense does it?
No that is what I am saying. Also the source engine already was updated so portal 1 issnt the same engine as portal 2 in example.

Also valve games aren't 60€ for that matter. Get it? they charge reasonable prices since they do not have to make a new engine for the game! That is how a company that issn't just trying to money grab would handle it

TF2 wasn't 60€, Portal wasn't 60€ hl ep1 wasn't. hl ep2 wasn't... css, dod:source all weren't 60€...

The Ferox

08-22-2011, 09:56 AM

No that is what I am saying. Also the source engine already was updated so portal 1 issnt the same engine as portal 2 in example.

Neither will MW3's engine be the EXACT same as MW2's. It will have some updates.

Also valve games aren't 60€ for that matter. Get it? they charge reasonable prices since they do not have to make a new engine for the game! That is how a company that issn't just trying to money grab would handle it

I buy everything retail, unless it's on Steam Sale, so I don't really care what the standard price of a game is. You can always find it cheaper somewhere. I get your point though, but it just turned out that people will buy games regardless of price, seeing some PS3 games are €70!

AeneasXI

08-22-2011, 10:00 AM

Neither will MW3's engine be the EXACT same as MW2's. It will have some updates.

I buy everything retail, unless it's on Steam Sale, so I don't really care what the standard price of a game is. You can always find it cheaper somewhere. I get your point though, but it just turned out that people will buy games regardless of price, seeing some PS3 games are €70!

No what I mean that is a new version of the source engine but this will not be a new version of the MW2 engine but only build on that engine. which is the exact same as MW2

Well we are here in the steam forums and people here have to buy it for 60$/60€/100dollar in AUS
which is unacceptable for a "sequal" which is in fact a standalone addon for more than fullprice.

You can go into a retail store if you want and tell people how great it is there and that they should get MW3 but here it is a clear NO BUY as advise for everyone.

And if it is the money aspect alone... not to speak of all the horrible things activision is doing...

Obii

08-22-2011, 10:01 AM

I just upgraded to a 6870 to play new games coming out like mw3, skyrim and bf3, so saying mw3 players don't have money is kinda stupid.
who said they don't have money? i said it will keep the fps laggers from trying to play BF3, i meant the ones with lower spec systems. as pointed out before, MW3 is aimed at the entire "community", that includes players who lack funds to run higher spec systems, someone on this very subforum said something along the lines of "it will run well on my computer" as a reason for buying MW3 and not BF3, implying he hasn't got a very good computer as he'd struggle to play newer tech games like BF3.

The Ferox

08-22-2011, 10:08 AM

No what I mean that is a new version of the source engine but this will not be a new version of the MW2 engine but only build on that engine. which is the exact same as MW2

http://www.mw3blog.com/modernwarfare3/new-information-about-the-mw3-engine/

Well we are here in the steam forums and people here have to buy it for 60$/60€/100dollar in AUS
which is unacceptable for a "sequal" which is in fact a standalone addon for more than fullprice.

You can go into a retail store if you want and tell people how great it is there and that they should get MW3 but here it is a clear NO BUY as advise for everyone.

And if it is the money aspect alone... not to speak of all the horrible things activision is doing...

Who are you to speak for people what they ar supposed to buy. If people want to pay 60 whatever for a game then let them be. And the BF devs aren't exactly the kindest people on earth, calling out at MW3 multiple times.

AeneasXI

08-22-2011, 10:13 AM

http://www.mw3blog.com/modernwarfare3/new-information-about-the-mw3-engine/

Who are you to speak for people what they ar supposed to buy. If people want to pay 60 whatever for a game then let them be. And the BF devs aren't exactly the kindest people on earth, calling out at MW3 multiple times.
As far as I can recall giving an advise issn't ordering anyone to do anything now issn't it?...
Who are you to forbid me to tell people what I think?

jnathus

08-22-2011, 10:25 AM

Well we are here in the steam forums and people here have to buy it for 60$/60€/100dollar in AUS
which is unacceptable for a "sequal" which is in fact a standalone addon for more than fullprice.

I'm not sure what you mean. There are people with thousands of hours into MW2. Call of Duty has a story and a single player mode, but in my opinion it is highly focused on the multiplayer. Personally I've put 300-ish hours into MW2, so I've gotten my money's worth. Your appraisal of the worth of MW3 is premature, and I think you assume that BF3 will offer 'so much more' for what is the same price. Truth be told, I am not convinced that BOTH won't disappoint . . me. Time will tell.

bejayel

08-22-2011, 10:38 AM

I'm buying it on the PS3. Not because I want to, but because a few friends are buying it there and I want a game to play with them.

I otherwise would not be buying it at all. With RO2, BF3 and Diablo 3 on the horizon, I doubt it'll get a lot of attention anyway.

The Ferox

08-22-2011, 11:07 AM

As far as I can recall giving an advise issn't ordering anyone to do anything now issn't it?...
Who are you to forbid me to tell people what I think?

Giving an advice that pushy is pretty much the same as saying "mw3 sux, dont buy".

AeneasXI

08-22-2011, 11:22 AM

Giving an advice that pushy is pretty much the same as saying "mw3 sux, dont buy".
And what? That is reasonable to say. My conclusion is not to buy so my advice is not to buy.
That doesn't mean anyone who reads my post can't still buy it so what is your problem?

If they agree with me or see that activision is a company that you should boycott they will refrain from buying this game which is just milking the franchise tbh and those that don't agree with me will still go out and throw their money at activision!

The Ferox

08-22-2011, 11:24 AM

And what? That is reasonable to say. My conclusion is not to buy so my advice is not to buy.
That doesn't mean anyone who reads my post can't still buy it so what is your problem?

If they agree with me or see that activision is a company that you should boycott they will refrain from buying this game which is just milking the franchise tbh and those that don't agree with me will still go out and throw their money at activision!

Eh, there are more Battlefield games then CoD games, so yeah, who truly is milking...

AeneasXI

08-22-2011, 11:28 AM

Eh, there are more Battlefield games then CoD games, so yeah, who truly is milking...
No there are more cod games than bf games!
even including bf heroes and 1943 here there are 7bf games while there are 8cod games already excluding roads to victory

Also I never said EA is the greatest publisher either. They milk their franchises also alot but DICE is areally good develioer. IW was too, but since the 2founders got fired and 39of the most important staff went with them this is a VERY different case
A whole lot developers are working on cod just for activision to milk it! Dice is actually the creator of BF and is still alive and thriving and delivering quite a good job...

IW actually wanted to STOP making cod games after MW2, so activision broke their promise, fired the founders and sued them, and right after that announced a new COD title.

If you wanna support a company that does such things then go ahead and buy your precious MW3. Original developer sued and destroyed and they are still making new parts to milk the franchise as long as it is still popular! money money money. nothing else matters. Not even the sake of the own developer studios... supporting such a company is unacceptable if you ask me

Stormy1

08-22-2011, 11:40 AM

No there are more cod games than bf games!
even including bf heroes and 1943 here there are 7bf games while there are 8cod games already excluding roads to victory

There are ALOT more.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Battlefield_video_games

AeneasXI

08-22-2011, 11:42 AM

There are ALOT more.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Battlefield_video_games

No not really...
Expansion packs do not count...

finniganz

08-22-2011, 11:52 AM

Eh, there are more Battlefield games then CoD games, so yeah, who truly is milking...

since 2003 their have been 11 Call of Duty games, since 2002 there have been 9 Battlefield games (these are games that were bought and don't include PSP, DS, phones (which only CoD had but under different developers) and does not include expansion/map/booster packs)
So yea, Dice and EA are totally milking more than activision /sarcasm

luckyjim

08-22-2011, 11:52 AM

Aaaand of course another MW3 thread turns into a debate about Battlefield. This is ridiculous, guys. Honestly.

AeneasXI

08-22-2011, 12:01 PM

Aaaand of course another MW3 thread turns into a debate about Battlefield. This is ridiculous, guys. Honestly.
OP even included BF3 in his first post. This thread was doomed to turn into a bf3vsmw3 discussion from the start

btw both EA and ACTIVISION suck bigtime

Just get Red Orchestra 2. PC - exclusive. the developer actually cares about the community, 20% off RO2 if you own RO1, free DLC(also maps. no 15€mappacks...) and an actually fair price instead of 60$ just 27$ at GMG if you use the coupon(can find that in the RO2 forums) Also it has been developed many years and MW3 just one year...

Dump those 2loosers and support a developer that actually cares!

doomgc

08-22-2011, 12:15 PM

OP even included BF3 in his first post. This thread was doomed to turn into a bf3vsmw3 discussion from the start

btw both EA and ACTIVISION suck bigtime

Just get Red Orchestra 2. PC - exclusive. the developer actually cares about the community, 20% off RO2 if you own RO1, free DLC(also maps. no 15€mappacks...) and an actually fair price instead of 60$ just 27$ at GMG if you use the coupon(can find that in the RO2 forums) Also it has been developed many years and MW3 just one year...

Dump those 2loosers and support a developer that actually cares!

*sttabing myself* could...you..please....talk ....about....mw3...in this ...thread..please. there is like over 9000 other one on this forum to compare activision and dice, mw3 and bf3. it's kind of sad.

which gun do you want the most to return in mw3 or new one? in mw2 I really LOVED the F2000. pretty sure it will not be in mw3 but still. I expect the remington one (don't know the model) to be awesome. !!!!!

AeneasXI

08-22-2011, 12:18 PM

*sttabing myself* could...you..please....talk ....about....mw3...in this ...thread..please. there is like over 9000 other one on this forum to compare activision and dice, mw3 and bf3. it's kind of sad.

which gun do you want the most to return in mw3 or new one? in mw2 I really LOVED the F2000. pretty sure it will not be in mw3 but still. I expect the remington one (don't know the model) to be awesome. !!!!!
Agreed the F2000 was really great in Battlefield 2 enjoyed that alot!
Also I stopped talking about battlefield 3 and talked about Red Orchestra 2
Since it is better than bf3 or mw3 will ever be :P
Realistic shooter ftw. cod and bf are just some silly arcade games in my eyes. too arcardy...
RO2 is the real deal! 18+ pc exclusive! free dlc! enough said...

Pepper26

08-22-2011, 12:20 PM

The most positive thing of this game i've seen so far is exploding attack dogs in specops and the inclusion of the magpul fmg, though i'd rather not have that particular weapon in AND the glock 18, since they are the same weapon, except the magpul is a glock in a shell, hopefully its some kind of G18 attachment that allows better accuracy.. the rest looks stale. if they didnt want to go with a glock conflictor, they could always put in one of the OTs type automatic russian handguns, making it fire slower but more damage per round, and maybe if they needed to add a magpul for some reason (like the obvious marketing deal with remington, their logo is placed so obviously right on the side of the acr and rsass (rem. semi auto sniper system, check the kotaku leak for pictures of it) they could just use the underapreciated, yet amazing awesome magpul pdr as a SMG class, even though it's technically a sub-carbine. the PDR is basically perfect for this game, have the "ak74u" (really an aks-74u, no one except cod games and combat arms call it an ak74u) be a slow rate of fire compared to other smgs, but best damage, and have the PDR be balanced with it, if mobility is in play like in blops, give the pdr a good ROF, but slightly less damage and worse mobility and reload speed, since bullpups are a pain in the ♥♥♥ (mag is behind your forearm). another thing, why does nobody ever think of putting an L22A1 in? It's perfect for the game, it's something the SAS would use, and it's a compact L86 as the aksu (an appropriate and commonly used slang for the aks-74u) is to the ak (fun fact, russians dont call it an ak-47, thats reserved for the ak prototypes made in 1947, if it's a production model, its an ak or akm (akm being a modernized ak))

The Ferox

08-22-2011, 12:27 PM

No there are more cod games than bf games!
even including bf heroes and 1943 here there are 7bf games while there are 8cod games already excluding roads to victory

Also I never said EA is the greatest publisher either. They milk their franchises also alot but DICE is areally good develioer. IW was too, but since the 2founders got fired and 39of the most important staff went with them this is a VERY different case
A whole lot developers are working on cod just for activision to milk it! Dice is actually the creator of BF and is still alive and thriving and delivering quite a good job...

IW actually wanted to STOP making cod games after MW2, so activision broke their promise, fired the founders and sued them, and right after that announced a new COD title.

If you wanna support a company that does such things then go ahead and buy your precious MW3. Original developer sued and destroyed and they are still making new parts to milk the franchise as long as it is still popular! money money money. nothing else matters. Not even the sake of the own developer studios... supporting such a company is unacceptable if you ask me

"Battlefield 3 is the 11th installment in the series, but the first main title since Battlefield 2 six years ago. It’s currently being made by DICE in Stockholm, Sweden. It releases on October 25 in the US and October 28 in the UK.

Modern Warfare 3 is the eighth installment in the Call of Duty series, but is the first without ex-Infinity Ward bosses Jason West and Vince Zampella since been fired last March. It’s currently being developed jointly by Infinity Ward and Sledgehammer Games. It releases on November 8 worldwide."

AeneasXI

08-22-2011, 12:29 PM

"Battlefield 3 is the 11th installment in the series, but the first main title since Battlefield 2 six years ago. It’s currently being made by DICE in Stockholm, Sweden. It releases on October 25 in the US and October 28 in the UK.

Modern Warfare 3 is the eighth installment in the Call of Duty series, but is the first without ex-Infinity Ward bosses Jason West and Vince Zampella since been fired last March. It’s currently being developed jointly by Infinity Ward and Sledgehammer Games. It releases on November 8 worldwide."
and you got that from what source now?
Check wiki for to see for yourself
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlefield_%28series%29
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_of_Duty

some battlefield games also are very small sideprojects projects like bf heroes and some are just versions to get console market saturated. Not really full bf games if you ask me.

The Ferox

08-22-2011, 12:31 PM

http://www.vg247.com/2011/08/12/this-years-superfight-how-the-mw3-vs-bf3-war-will-play-out/

Seriously, read that list on the right of that wiki page CAREFULLY. Yes, there are 11 main games.

AeneasXI

08-22-2011, 12:36 PM

http://www.vg247.com/2011/08/12/this-years-superfight-how-the-mw3-vs-bf3-war-will-play-out/

Seriously, read that list on the right of that wiki page CAREFULLY. Yes, there are 11 main games.
He is even saying it himself
Battlefield 3 is the 11th installment in the series, but the first main title since Battlefield 2 six years ago.

the first MAIN TITLE since 6years
most of the other games were just little projects to saturate markets like free online games and consoles.
They actually took their time to develop bf3 while activision only gave MW3 1year time. This will be a huge difference in terms of quality
COD is just churning out one full "sequel" after the other year after year milking the series to death!

Red Orchestra2 also gets developed for many years already.
They are just trying to churn out MW3 as soon as possible to steal sales from BF3 and RO2
A very sad and pittyful attempt tbh

The Ferox

08-22-2011, 12:42 PM

He is even saying it himself
Battlefield 3 is the 11th installment in the series, but the first main title since Battlefield 2 six years ago.

the first MAIN TITLE since 6years
most of the other games were just little projects to saturate markets like free online games and consoles.
They actually took their time to develop bf3 while activision only gave MW3 1year time. This will be a huge difference in terms of quality
COD is just churning out one full "sequel" after the other year after year milking the series to death!

Red Orchestra2 also gets developed for many years already.
They are just trying to churn out MW3 as soon as possible to steal sales from BF3 and RO2
A very sad and pittyful attempt tbh

He means that is the next CASUAL Battlefield game, so no Bad Company game, no 1943, 2142, or w/e.

forumuser622

08-22-2011, 01:32 PM

AeneasXI

08-22-2011, 01:38 PM

I know pple accuse the companies of "milking" the franchise. But really, I prefer to see quality contents every year at $20 and just keep expanding the same game. Rather than a free DLC map in 2 years and the game is rotting away like the dev don't care.
A free dlc map in 2years? And what game are you reffering to? Every game on steam that does free dlc releases updates regularly like in months.
Killing Floor, TF2, L4D,L4D2, Red Orchestra 1 they all got new maps and weapons and stuff on a very regular basis. major updates every few months some even more often

I rather have to pay for a game 1time and get free dlc for it than get exactly the same game with only minor differences every year and even have to PAY to get maps...
Killing floor released with like 4 maps. Now there are over 15maps (official ones) and even more community made.
So no 1map in 2years... also they included lots of new enemy skins, over 10new weapons and even a new class...
That is what I expect of a good company. Treat their game as it should be and expand upon it. And after several years you can make a sequel which will be even bigger, new enginge etc. That is how you do it. Not release 1game every year, release some half assed mappacks and even charge money for it (15€/$ for maps wtf... I expect that to be free) and rush to the next sequel!

MANFACE

08-22-2011, 03:01 PM

I am SO POSITIVE about MW3. I love this thread, the OP is a HERO.

AeneasXI

08-22-2011, 03:02 PM

I am SO POSITIVE about MW3. I love this thread, the OP is a HERO.
you forget the /sarcasm. Now people will actually think you meant that lol mw3 steamuser seem to be unable to understand sarcasm on alot of occasions ;) (shocking is that you might even recieve rep from a cod Hammer Legion Member for that post :D :D)

The Ferox

08-22-2011, 03:07 PM

you forget the /sarcasm. Now people will actually think you meant that lol mw3 steamuser seem to be unable to understand sarcasm on alot of occasions ;) (shocking is that you might even recieve rep from a cod Hammer Legion Member for that post :D :D)

Wow, this was so funny.

/sarcasm

AeneasXI

08-22-2011, 03:09 PM

Wow, this was so funny.

/sarcasm
Since I wasn't joking? its shocking to me ;)

The Ferox

08-22-2011, 03:10 PM

Since I wasn't joking? its shocking to me ;)

No, the last line obviously is not a joke.

AeneasXI

08-22-2011, 03:32 PM

No, the last line obviously is not a joke.

You need to know that a :D doesnt tell you that someone made a joke. It only implies that the writing person is laughing about it. Seriously many of your statements are hilariously naive!

epicphail

08-22-2011, 03:35 PM

Stormy1

08-22-2011, 06:23 PM

rising91

08-22-2011, 08:36 PM

After trying to play BO without fps stuttering for almost over a year and numerous hardware improvments I have realized playing XBOX 360 games on PC was a bad idea and decided to never purchase console ports again.

Yes Black Ops is a ♥♥♥♥ing console port but Modern Warfare 2 actually looks and runs really better in my pc so Modern Warfare 3 will run nice too.For me Mw3 will be a polished version of Mw2 which is good because Mw2 is fun, runs nice and looks nice.We will see!

Bf3 trolls: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woySeSNBL3o&feature=related