Console Port or Built For The PC?

[Rekhit]

Basically, is this a game that's designed to play in the PC or has it been designed to play on a console and has just been ported?

[Reksel]

Dead Island supports DX11.

[shabbyblock]

It's been designed for PC and then ported to Console.

Basically it was built for PC.

[naughtydog2k3]

It's been designed for PC and then ported to Console.

Basically it was built for PC.

Just like they said about Borderlands...am I rite?

[Zydrate Addict]

YAAY!!! PC got love. I hate that something as massive as Skyrim is being made for consoles (360 to be exact) and we get sloppy seconds

[RojaNNatioN]

Just like they said about Borderlands...am I rite?

No, not just like Borderlands. Go do some research for two seconds and you'll find out it's for PC.

[Rekhit]

YAAY!!! PC got love. I hate that something as massive as Skyrim is being made for consoles (360 to be exact) and we get sloppy seconds

Skyrim has been made for the console and has been ported??

[Earthworm James]

Dead Island supports DX11.

yeah, but it's a Dx9 native engine (it has to be, it's a console game ported on pc), so you'll just get some better light effects with Dx11. I'm not even sure they put tessellation.

[BC2 Cypher]

It's not a port.

http://pc.mmgn.com/News/Dead-Island-PC-Is-Not-A-Port

[advocation]

yeah, but it's a Dx9 native engine (it has to be, it's a console game ported on pc), so you'll just get some better light effects with Dx11. I'm not even sure they put tessellation.

I would say this is probably incorrect.

http://www.qj.net/pc-gaming/news/dead-island-pc-is-no-mere-port.html

Per dev, they have been working simultaneously on both versions (console vs pc).

[naughtydog2k3]

No, not just like Borderlands. Go do some research for two seconds and you'll find out it's for PC.

Or maybe you can take your own advice before spouting out making yourself look idiotic.

[TimM]

Or maybe you can take your own advice before spouting out making yourself look idiotic.

Yet, you are not correct. Because the game on the pc was made alongside the console version.

[welsh_boy]

Or maybe you can take your own advice before spouting out making yourself look idiotic.

How is he making himself look idiotic when he is speaking the truth ??

Look at the 2 posts above your idiotic comment and eat a little humble pie yourself.

Seriously , if only a negative rep button existed

[Destructor-2011]

WAIT wait wait this game support DX11 :D?

[kyosai]

Game wasn't ported to pc and it wasn't ported to console. They made two seperate ones. Same game, they just made one by itself on pc and one by itself on console. Which is just awesome.

[BC2 Cypher]

WAIT wait wait this game support DX11 :D?

Yes it does.

[Phantom2010]

The Chrome Engine v5 is a very good multi-platform graphic engine :D
DEAD ISLAND ENGINE DEMO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJMdPwnAY28)

[RojaNNatioN]

Or maybe you can take your own advice before spouting out making yourself look idiotic.

IGNORANT HATERS GON' HATE SON.

But seriously, I think he has a mental disability so I won't grill him too hard. It's okay "naughtydog2k3", (LOL) we understand what you're going through.

[natboojaygizmo]

skyrim and boderlands are both not console ports if you stupid moronic tenny boppers new anything about a pc you would now but obviously your far to stupid

[advocation]

skyrim and boderlands are both not console ports if you stupid moronic tenny boppers new anything about a pc you would now but obviously your far to stupid

"You have failed. Please hit the select button to retry."

[lilspooky]

IMO, Boderlands was a Port. The menus alone were all designed for a controller, you cant even use the mouse wheel in menus. Menus are not very user friendly.

Skyrim, though designed for the xbox, mods will fix many problems for PC. I also have faith in Todd Howard, he wouldnt screw over the PC.

I am waiting for reviews for Dead Island, hoping its amazing.

[Cut2TheChase]

ska..ska..skyrim a ..shudder...console port?
My heart just sank.

[CTAsasin]

ska..ska..skyrim a ..shudder...console port?
My heart just sank.

Yep, worst news of the forever.

I mean, if they're going to develop it for a console first they might as well do it for the PS3, which is stronger technically than the 360 :|

Welp... yeah, gg no re.

[Timthos]

I'm surprised the engine runs in DX11, which is fairly nice. But it's really not going to matter if I can't change that god awful FoV that I've seen in the early console play-throughs. You couldn't change it in Bound in Blood and boy was that painful.

[naughtydog2k3]

How is he making himself look idiotic when he is speaking the truth ??

Look at the 2 posts above your idiotic comment and eat a little humble pie yourself.

Seriously , if only a negative rep button existed

If only a ignore button exist so I wouldn't need to read idiotic messages like yours. Anyways do your research nerd, even a guy like me who doesn't spend on the forums all day or everyday knows something about it than you could ever know.

[naughtydog2k3]

IGNORANT HATERS GON' HATE SON.

But seriously, I think he has a mental disability so I won't grill him too hard. It's okay "naughtydog2k3", (LOL) we understand what you're going through.

Nerds going to nerd rage. ROFL!

[Destructor-2011]

DX11!!!!! COOOOOLL

[RojaNNatioN]

Nerds going to nerd rage. ROFL!

I'm so mad bro. No but seriously, where did you derive from any of my posts that I was mad? Lol.

[Aullah]

Yes it does.

Any chance you can give me a source for this?

[Paddles]

As long as it's ported better than Crysis 2 or Call Of Duty then i couldn't care less.

Crysis 2 is a disgrace, and Call Of Duty is just crap with the support.

[Earthworm James]

I would say this is probably incorrect.

http://www.qj.net/pc-gaming/news/dead-island-pc-is-no-mere-port.html

Per dev, they have been working simultaneously on both versions (console vs pc).

You're wrong.
The engine is made to work on consoles, so it's extremely limited by hardware. We may have better hardware, but the game has been built with console hardware in mind, we won't get more than higher res, some better lightning and filters.
Textures will be the same, polycount will be the same, it's a multiplatform game and nothing will change that, all multiplatform games are like that.

Except Battlefield 3, 'cause DICE actually used a Dx11 native engine for the pc version (Frostbite 2.0), while the console versions will run on Frostbite 1.5, which is Dx9 native.

[cart000]

Yep, worst news of the forever.

I mean, if they're going to develop it for a console first they might as well do it for the PS3, which is stronger technically than the 360 :|

Welp... yeah, gg no re.

ps3 only has 256mb of video ram this why ps3 ports runs worse then then 360 90% of the time. ps3 has better spec but they were poorly executed.

[woolerland]

remember kids, the UI can still suckass regardless if it is a port or not, we just have lower standards these days :(

[Nickj360]

Basically, is this a game that's designed to play in the PC or has it been designed to play on a console and has just been ported?

If it's coming out on consoles same day, then it was on console an ported to PC more often than not. Only time you can ever guarentee that it was built for PC is if it's released on PC first (Like the Witcher 2 for example.) In my opinion this is always the case. No matter what dev says to try an sell PC gamers on there console ported games.

[Aullah]

If it's coming out on consoles same day, then it was on console an ported to PC more often than not. Only time you can ever guarentee that it was built for PC is if it's released on PC first (Like the Witcher 2 for example.) In my opinion this is always the case. No matter what dev says to try an sell PC gamers on there console ported games.

WROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG!

Or BF3 will be a console port too?

[Nickj360]

WROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG!

Or BF3 will be a console port too?

Lol Honestly? I'm skeptical whether BF3 isn't just a console port with added PC-centric settings/bonuses like many console ports are coming out with now. Perhaps i'm just not being very optimistic. Hard to trust though lol. All just my opinion though as i stated. Not saying I'm right or wrong ;)

[cart000]

Lol Honestly? I'm skeptical whether BF3 isn't just a console port with added PC-centric settings/bonuses like many console ports are coming out with now. Perhaps i'm just not being very optimistic. Hard to trust though lol. All just my opinion though as i stated. Not saying I'm right or wrong ;)

funny because console gamers are sacred BF3 is a PC forced game, and judging by the fact that 90% of what we've seen on the game is on a PC its safe to say its a PC game ported to consoles.

[Right2Live]

funny because console gamers are sacred BF3 is a PC forced game, and judging by the fact that 90% of what we've seen on the game is on a PC its safe to say its a PC game ported to consoles.

BF3: Well, they already confirmed that it was developed for PC. They'd rather not be limited by consoles, so they're making it super nice for PC, then spray ♥♥♥♥ all over it, so it works on the consoles.



ps3 only has 256mb of video ram this why ps3 ports runs worse then then 360 90% of the time. ps3 has better spec but they were poorly executed.

Jesus H. Christ, not only did you type "then" instead of "than", you typed it twice...

[Mikey-]

DX11 means nothing.

We need to know which DX11 features will be used.

[Mackeh]

It will be a console port just like all the others. I remember Brink devs clearly stating that Brink was being developed on PC & Console at the same time and that it would not be a port. I never bought the game but read loads of posts on various forums stating that it was a poor port from console.

Basically we live in a world where money talks and most businesses will just lie in order to sell their product. If they say this is not a port then it probably will be, we will find out soon enough but my money is on a port.

[Ryamu1985]

It really doesn't make any difference anymore. You can apply this simple test:

Is it a game? Yes / No
If Yes...
Has it been released on PC? Yes / No
If Yes...

People will nerdrage about it being a console port regardless of how it looks, how much fun it is or how awesome the gameplay proves to be. I'm getting sick of hearing the phrase 'console port' on these forums. If a developer so much as picked up a 360 game in a store one time they get accused of making a console port. Developers are gonna do whatever is more cost effective, and if that means making it on a console and porting it, then that's what will happen. Get over it, enjoy the game and move on. If it bothers people that much that games aren't developed specifically for the PC, then don't buy them.

[joker09]

It really doesn't make any difference anymore. You can apply this simple test:

Is it a game? Yes / No
If Yes...
Has it been released on PC? Yes / No
If Yes...

People will nerdrage about it being a console port regardless of how it looks, how much fun it is or how awesome the gameplay proves to be. I'm getting sick of hearing the phrase 'console port' on these forums. If a developer so much as picked up a 360 game in a store one time they get accused of making a console port. Developers are gonna do whatever is more cost effective, and if that means making it on a console and porting it, then that's what will happen. Get over it, enjoy the game and move on. If it bothers people that much that games aren't developed specifically for the PC, then don't buy them.

tl;dr (with all due respect, I agree!)


SPUF: Where one can argue anything is a console port, even when it's not released on consoles.

[Coraline Jones]

People will nerdrage about it being a console port regardless of how it looks, how much fun it is or how awesome the gameplay proves to be. I'm getting sick of hearing the phrase 'console port' on these forums. If a developer so much as picked up a 360 game in a store one time they get accused of making a console port. Developers are gonna do whatever is more cost effective, and if that means making it on a console and porting it, then that's what will happen. Get over it, enjoy the game and move on. If it bothers people that much that games aren't developed specifically for the PC, then don't buy them.

You said it.

To answer everybody's question, the answer is "Well, of course it's a console port". I can't even think of more than five games made in the last year that are cross-platform AND were designed where PC gamers would get priority.

The real question is whether or not the port is really messed up. I cannot tell you how many PC games were essentially messed up due to dumb design decisions taken from the consoles:

Bioshock 2 was already a kind of average to sub-average game, but it didn't help that 2K Games thought that it was a smart idea to lock the framerate to 60fps. My personal favorite is that the consoles actually had more controls than the PC version, because somebody thought that PC gamers want less features.

Metro 2033 has a very diehard fanbase, but I cannot deny that the game has some really terrible design points. Despite that a PC clearly has lots of storage, the PC version only offers one save location. If you click the "New Game" button, then it erases all of your checkpoints and previous saves and you start all over from the beginning. As a result, Metro 2033 is the only FPS game that I know where you can't replay any chapter you want after beating a game, only reload checkpoints from your last playthrough.

[Phantom2010]

hey guys it isn't a "console port" because, like me and other already said (and you can found other info everywhere), it's a multi platform engine, good capable engine with many graphics and physics support (you can check the wiki). So no priority for console or viceversa, just an "all-around engine". BTW it is still nice looking and personally I just hope it got also a good gameplay, etc. Games with fantastic graphics and horrid gameplay are useless (for me) ^_^

P.s.: sorry for my english but it isnt my motherlanguage...

[phillibl]

They are using the Chrome 2 engine which is an engine they designed specifically for the pc. After they stopped development on the Chrome 2 game they started Dead Island then they decided they wanted a console version as well. It most definitely started as a PC game then a console version was tacked on later.

Also, if you want to get your hands on a pc only game check out Hard Reset (http://store.steampowered.com/app/98400/?snr=1_4_4__106_1) its only $26

[Ebo87]

You have to love all the guys here screaming port left and right without even knowing what that means.

I bet most of them (including the extremely smart one that said pc games are not ports only if they come out on pc first) must think that a game like, say, Resident Evil 5, was a port on the PC, or Crysis 2 ......oh that has to be the best, lol.

Guys, wake the hell up, just because a game doesn't support your mouse wheel or even your mouse in menus, DOES NOT MEAN IT IS A CONSOLE PORT, just that consoles were the focus.

There are very few cases were console port is correctly used. Dead Island is most definitely NOT a console port.

[laazrockit]

You're wrong.
The engine is made to work on consoles, so it's extremely limited by hardware. We may have better hardware, but the game has been built with console hardware in mind, we won't get more than higher res, some better lightning and filters.
Textures will be the same, polycount will be the same, it's a multiplatform game and nothing will change that, all multiplatform games are like that.

Except Battlefield 3, 'cause DICE actually used a Dx11 native engine for the pc version (Frostbite 2.0), while the console versions will run on Frostbite 1.5, which is Dx9 native.

The console version of bf3 will also use frostbite 2...

[Aullah]

You have to love all the guys here screaming port left and right without even knowing what that means.

I bet most of them (including the extremely smart one that said pc games are not ports only if they come out on pc first) must think that a game like, say, Resident Evil 5, was a port on the PC, or Crysis 2 ......oh that has to be the best, lol.

Guys, wake the hell up, just because a game doesn't support your mouse wheel or even your mouse in menus, DOES NOT MEAN IT IS A CONSOLE PORT, just that consoles were the focus.

There are very few cases were console port is correctly used. Dead Island is most definitely NOT a console port.

RE5 and C2 are both consoleports. Deal with it.

[Guuo]

The devs made standalone versions of Dead Island for both consoles and PC alongside each other.

[Phantom2010]

The devs made standalone versions of Dead Island for both consoles and PC alongside each other.

This!

[MrJaegerMeister]

Console gaming is one of the factors that is saving the PC gaming industry, at least if you ask me. What with the high cost of making games, the high cost of gaming PCs, and the ease of pirating. Many many great games would've never been released to PC at all if not for the success of consoles.

Sure you get a bad one here and there, but it is pretty rare that the PC version is flat out worse than the consoles.

If it's equal to the console version with higher resolution, higher framerates and cheaper then really what's to complain about. It's always better than not having the option to play the game at all.

[Sami69]

Even if they praised how hard about game being made from scratch to pc. Just think about Duke nukem forever, Fable 3 and hundred other games. You just can't trust devs anymore except maybe some indie devs. Game might be:

A. Buggy as hell

B. Requirements might be lie and instead of 9800gtx you need 470gtx to get more than 34fps at high settings+ you need to OC your cpu bigtime

C. Game just flops, is short, lame, unpolished etc...

D. Game's just as good as it was hoped to be but someone still needs to whine about it and someone ALLWAYS will

[Cut2TheChase]

Also, if you want to get your hands on a pc only game check out Hard Reset (http://store.steampowered.com/app/98400/?snr=1_4_4__106_1) its only $26

Yes and I pre-ordered Grim Dawn as well.
http://grimdawn.com/

I despise console gaming and find those that actually try to defend a weaker platform ludicrous.
"ignorant AND arrogant"

[phillibl]

Yes and I pre-ordered Grim Dawn as well.
http://grimdawn.com/

I despise console gaming and find those that actually try to defend a weaker platform ludicrous.
"ignorant AND arrogant"

I tip my hat to you sir. I preordered Grim Dawn Legendary as soon as I heard about it :)

[bseo927]

Game wasn't ported to pc and it wasn't ported to console. They made two seperate ones. Same game, they just made one by itself on pc and one by itself on console. Which is just awesome.

if this is true, then this is how game developers should approach pc and console versions of their games.

[Mackeh]

If you have NOT played dead Island then stop saying it is or is not a console port, you do not know!

Developers & Publishers are usually professional liars so pay no attention to anything they say, you will find out next week. My money is that it will be a port.

[Neriot]

Console gaming is one of the factors that is saving the PC gaming industry, at least if you ask me. What with the high cost of making games, the high cost of gaming PCs, and the ease of pirating. Many many great games would've never been released to PC at all if not for the success of consoles.


Funny how you never hear much about console piracy. There aren't many software pirates in my social circles among PC users, and those that do, use the illegitimate software as a demo- if none is available- Meanwhile, every console owner I've known for the last 6 years has had their console modded to play pirated games.

Let's not beat around the bush, piracy is both an issue and a non-issue in that it occurs on all platforms.

PC gamers certainly shouldn't be thankful for the existence of consoles. PC gaming is slowly being turned into the third wheel of the industry because console owners are satisfied paying more for less.

For clarity, I have nothing against consoles personally. They offer a more casual, hassle-free experience for the end user. It is, regardless, unfortunate that through multiple factors, PC gaming is largely being phased out in mainstream gaming.

[Quint]

Console gaming is one of the factors that is saving the PC gaming industry, at least if you ask me. What with the high cost of making games, the high cost of gaming PCs, and the ease of pirating. Many many great games would've never been released to PC at all if not for the success of consoles.

Sure you get a bad one here and there, but it is pretty rare that the PC version is flat out worse than the consoles.

If it's equal to the console version with higher resolution, higher framerates and cheaper then really what's to complain about. It's always better than not having the option to play the game at all.

Well for starters,you don't have to upgrade all the time.Consoles did save me a lot of money,thanks.And I love my 360 controller!

[Sarena89]

Well for starters,you don't have to upgrade all the time.Consoles did save me a lot of money,thanks.And I love my 360 controller!

I drink to that.:D

[carlh267]

Just like they said about Borderlands...am I rite?

They're promising that they won't horribly port to the pc version for the sequel. We can only hope...

[wikchi]

Pretty excited for this game, ive been waiting years (4 ?) for it.

Pre ordered at GMG for $34 :D

MP will be a blast

[donnymill]

Pretty excited for this game, ive been waiting years (4 ?) for it.

Pre ordered at GMG for $34 :D

MP will be a blast

Yeah, this one's def been on my radar since it got announced, though it disappeared for a good while there, leaving me wondering if it'd ever come out at all.

[Nickj360]

It will be a console port just like all the others. I remember Brink devs clearly stating that Brink was being developed on PC & Console at the same time and that it would not be a port. I never bought the game but read loads of posts on various forums stating that it was a poor port from console.

Basically we live in a world where money talks and most businesses will just lie in order to sell their product. If they say this is not a port then it probably will be, we will find out soon enough but my money is on a port.

My point exactly.

[kornswag]

It will be a console port just like all the others. I remember Brink devs clearly stating that Brink was being developed on PC & Console at the same time and that it would not be a port. I never bought the game but read loads of posts on various forums stating that it was a poor port from console.

Basically we live in a world where money talks and most businesses will just lie in order to sell their product. If they say this is not a port then it probably will be, we will find out soon enough but my money is on a port.

My point exactly.

You people do know that the game was made on a PC, is and always has been playable on the same PC that created it, yeah?

The way you all talk about ports it's pretty hilarious.. I don't think the devs have it in them to tell ya the jokes on you.

[Neriot]

the jokes on you.

Any questions?

[WiteLite]

Brink was not a crappy port... it was just a crappy game.

[naughtydog2k3]

I'm so mad bro. No but seriously, where did you derive from any of my posts that I was mad? Lol.

So what's up piece of ♥♥♥♥? Still think it isn't a console port you trash? Don't you feel like an idiot after saying it isn't. It must be amusing elitist like you having to spend $50 on a console port to believe it was going to be PC port instead..rofl dumbass.

[Amuse]

LOL...This is a big port from console.

Even look at the achievements I guess they forgot to change this when they made this just for pc right?

Swing them sticks
Kill 150 enemies using Analog Fighting controls.

I forgot I had analog sticks on my keyboard.

[Doob]

LOL...This is a big port from console.

Even look at the achievements I guess they forgot to change this when they made this just for pc right?

Swing them sticks
Kill 150 enemies using Analog Fighting controls.

I forgot I had analog sticks on my keyboard.

You can use controllers on your PC.

[marichuu]

The game supports good ol' LAN, right? Console ports usually don't, amirite?

[Amuse]

I know that but, I didn't know it was a requirement for a achievement on a pc game.

[swaaye]

Some of you folks really need to detach your brains from the "console port" mindset and think of it as "multiplatform release" because that's what it is and that's how the game industry has worked for about 10 years now with few exceptions.

[Doob]

I know that but, I didn't know it was a requirement for a achievement on a pc game.

Well now you know. Many PC games benefit from analog control such as driving games. They had the functionality using an analog stick and left it in. You really think they coded an achievement into steam by mistake? No.

A port is when a game is created on 1 platform and then ported to another. Unless they delayed the console release date to finish a PC port (incredibly unlikely) they were indeed working on both versions together.

If you are upset that they didn't do things specific for the PC that's a different story. The did leave a nice config file for us to play with.

Some of you folks really need to detach your brains from the "console port" mindset and think of it as "multiplatform release" because that's what it is and that's how the game industry has worked for about 10 years now with few exceptions.

Exactly.