Cancelling pre-order?

[kaiser434]

Can't find any entry on the help page on how to cancel a pre-order. Can anyone point me in the right direction (iirc you can cancel pre-orders but not get refund on a delivered game)?

[Inker]

I think you need to contact Steam support directly

[Spyder810]

Click support at the top of page, click steam on the right, click picture on right and open a ticket asking for refund.

As long as the ticket is created before release and you haven't played the game (after release) they will refund it.

[FrontlinerDelta]

thanks good to know, i will be cancelling my pre-order and not getting this game at all. i'm tired of these idiot devs delaying games at the last minute, so this is my f**k you to them. too bad there won't be more people doing this, it would be nice to make this game bunk as payback for the delay.

While I'm not as angry at them and I really do want to play the game, I too feel that I should cancel my preorder.

This is pretty unprofessional to cancel the DAY BEFORE release. It's also very fishy imo, I'm not sure I trust them that much now. They're either extremely incompetent or something else and it concerns me that they didn't realize it would have to be delayed until today (or they announced it today, which is something to protest as well).

[iTonez]

This is pretty unprofessional....

everytime i see that word "unprofessional", i think of christian bale lol

[PwnererofGods]

While I'm not as angry at them and I really do want to play the game, I too feel that I should cancel my preorder.

This is pretty unprofessional to cancel the DAY BEFORE release. It's also very fishy imo, I'm not sure I trust them that much now. They're either extremely incompetent or something else and it concerns me that they didn't realize it would have to be delayed until today (or they announced it today, which is something to protest as well).

The only thing keeping me here is my lack of other games at the moment, and my friends who are getting Payday. That aside, I'm teetering on the edge of canceling.

I have no problem with delays, but to remain silent... ehh. I've seen many take extra long due to problems, but god damn those companies put in the effort, i.e. the APB beta, when it stopped working near the start, or a new revision of EVE Online - the companies involved worked over weekends and public holidays to fix their product for their paying customers, but here... just an odd delay right before launch, unannounced (practically).

Nice.

[Wizzler]

[QUOTE=FrontlinerDelta;25493968]While I'm not as angry at them and I really do want to play the game, I too feel that I should cancel my preorder.

This is pretty unprofessional to cancel the DAY BEFORE release./QUOTE]

Just canceled my pre-order as well.

Reason:

Last minute delay and the most important point for me: Lack of information.

Just bought Rage - pretty sure they will not delay the release-date.:rolleyes:

EDIT: Nice quote...

[Mondeus]

Just canceled my pre-order as well.

Reason:

Last minute delay and the most important point for me: Lack of information.

Just bought Rage - pretty sure they will not delay the release-date.:rolleyes:

EDIT: Nice quote...

Enjoy Rage, pc version has some minor technicull difficulties:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZc978FXVo8

[Aurock47]

Enjoy Rage, pc version has some minor technicull difficulties:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZc978FXVo8

Yep, Rage should of been postponed.

[Alterego]

i dunno at the moment, im not excited anymore about the game now. They say end this month they say the 10th then its the 14th and theres NO NEWS for all the people who pre ordered and thats a lot. Ive got other games to play anyway, might as well go for rage when its released, its a bit more expensive but atleast i wont have to wait another weeks for paying for nothing...or do i..

[Red Scent]

might as well go for rage when its released,

I was gonna go for Rage as well but it's not looking good from what I'm reading overall - I'm defo leaving it alone for the immediate future.

[Kaybald]

You're denying the devs their money, when it isn't their fault it got delayed in the first place? Interesting. Let's just say ♥♥♥♥ you to all indie devs while we're at it, eh? :P

NOTCH, DANG YOU FOR NOT RELEASING 1.9 YET! IM CANCELLING MY PREORDER!

I personally do not see this as reason enough to cancel. A delay. Okay. It's a couple days. Not months, not years, days. Yes, it's frustrating that it got delayed so close to release. Yes, SOE sucks. No, it's not worth missing out on what is shaping up to be a good game.

[wdcr0ck]

I was gonna go for Rage as well but it's not looking good from what I'm reading overall - I'm defo leaving it alone for the immediate future.

Give it a week or two to shake the bugs loose. Gameplay is decent but there are some serious technical issues. The forum is more fun than the actual game right now. Haha.

[wdcr0ck]

i dunno at the moment, im not excited anymore about the game now. They say end this month they say the 10th then its the 14th and theres NO NEWS for all the people who pre ordered and thats a lot. Ive got other games to play anyway, might as well go for rage when its released, its a bit more expensive but atleast i wont have to wait another weeks for paying for nothing...or do i..

Give it some time. Once all this RAGE bull♥♥♥♥ dies down, Payday will appear and we'll have a kickass gaming experience. We're talking about a delay of a week.

[wdcr0ck]

thanks good to know, i will be cancelling my pre-order and not getting this game at all. i'm tired of these idiot devs delaying games at the last minute, so this is my f**k you to them. too bad there won't be more people doing this, it would be nice to make this game bunk as payback for the delay.

Lawl. Oh the RAGE!!! A whole week delay! OH NOES!!! I'm gonna order a 4pack just to compensate for your poor decision.

[The Jockey]

i'm tired of these idiot devs delaying games at the last minute, so this is my f**k you to them.

Yep, that's where you went wrong. It was SOE who delayed it, not Overkill. If you read their damn news or probably any other thread, you would be able to know that they want to release it, SOE didn't

[Dragonsbane117]

If I was gifted a copy of this tonight, im still good right? I just have to wait for the release date to play, I dont need to grab another copy.

[krew790]

thanks good to know, i will be cancelling my pre-order and not getting this game at all. i'm tired of these idiot devs delaying games at the last minute, so this is my f**k you to them. too bad there won't be more people doing this, it would be nice to make this game bunk as payback for the delay.

Why it was sony's fault also $17 for the game is legit. Im happy to support the small people to help them out.

[Aurock47]

Why RAGE? You will not touch that turd again when this beauty gets released... Oh yeah, trust me, i've foreseen the future.

Now i'll bathe in the flames of the people whos upset. :o

[Aurock47]

We'll see you next week 100% Echo_foxtrot. Only then you will pay full price. :)

[Neonwarrior]

Have you all taken into account yet that the game might be entirely crap and this thread would be all for nothing because the game would be bad anyways?

[BattleAxe_604]

thanks good to know, i will be cancelling my pre-order and not getting this game at all. i'm tired of these idiot devs delaying games at the last minute, so this is my f**k you to them. too bad there won't be more people doing this, it would be nice to make this game bunk as payback for the delay.

I think its a pretty stupid reason to cancel a pre-order. I was disappointed too, but I've had some much bigger disappointments concerning the quality of some of my most anticipated games this year like Socom 4, Resistance 3, Killzone 3 and its looking like BF3 is going to disappoint too. This is one of the few games in a while that looks like pure fun, and I'm absolutely sick and tired of unfinished and buggy games, so if these guys need a couple more weeks to iron a few things out I'm good with that. Besides, this game is coming out at such a great price, how can you possibly go wrong if you're a big fan of co-op gameplay? Are you going to skip out on Half Life 3 if its ever announced because they took too long to make a sequel?

[Rixoli]

This is quite possibly the biggest whine-fest I have ever seen in my life. Can no one here remember a time when games were delayed a month or more? As others have stated here they've stated come hell or high water the games going to be released sometime this month (Granted not in those exact words).


Have you people NEVER heard of patience? That thing where you sit down quietly and behave like an adult or are you all truly that young and immature? (before someone calls me an old codger i'm 22 years old, back off), what about all the countless great games that werent just delayed, but CANCELLED? no one complained this much when Starcraft: Ghost ( a potentially great Third-person shooter based off the like-named strategy game series) was axed. There was obviously SOME complaining but DAMN.

Sit down, wait for a month or two THEN if they STILL havent released it, go right ahead and threaten to cancel your pre-order. You'll hear no complaints from me or anyone else by that point even so, ITS A $17 USD GAME FOLKS, if your SERIOUSLY that much of a penny pincher that you cant afford to wait for it then you shouldnt be buying it in the first place!!!

Can I get an Amen here?

[InfiniVide]

This is quite possibly the biggest whine-fest I have ever seen in my life. Can no one here remember a time when games were delayed a month or more? As others have stated here they've stated come hell or high water the games going to be released sometime this month (Granted not in those exact words).


Have you people NEVER heard of patience? That thing where you sit down quietly and behave like an adult or are you all truly that young and immature? (before someone calls me an old codger i'm 22 years old, back off), what about all the countless great games that werent just delayed, but CANCELLED? no one complained this much when Starcraft: Ghost ( a potentially great Third-person shooter based off the like-named strategy game series) was axed. There was obviously SOME complaining but DAMN.

Sit down, wait for a month or two THEN if they STILL havent released it, go right ahead and threaten to cancel your pre-order. You'll hear no complaints from me or anyone else by that point even so, ITS A $17 USD GAME FOLKS, if your SERIOUSLY that much of a penny pincher that you cant afford to wait for it then you shouldnt be buying it in the first place!!!

Can I get an Amen here?

An amen and some rep.

[FlakAttack]

It's their money, what does it matter to you what people do with it? If they want to cancel their pre-orders they are more than welcome to, and you know what you can do about it? Nothing. So stop whining.

[Rixoli]

It's their money, what does it matter to you what people do with it? If they want to cancel their pre-orders they are more than welcome to, and you know what you can do about it? Nothing. So stop whining.

I'm not whining per-say I just find it incredibly silly that they're throwing such a humongous fit over a $17 game which hasnt even been delayed 2 weeks. If they're so immature that they cant wait that long I fear for the coming generation.

[jdungeon]

I don't understand why anyone would cancel their preorder just because a game got delayed for a week or two. So ♥♥♥♥ happened and they need more time to deliver. It's not like you are depending on this game to live.

[kaiser434]

I think it's understandable. I was going to cancel because the timing of release was actually a pretty big factor in my choice to purchase at that time. Last minute impulse buy to kill some time before my next semester started. Not butt hurt about it, thats just where a fair bit of the value was for me at the time.

That being said, the dev handling of this has been pretty good so I'm willing to maintain the preorder just off being impressed there, even though the declaration that it will be P2P is kind of a blow.

[JoyL]

I'm waiting me too, I don't like this smart behaviour to postpone the game at the release date...it seems a trend nowdays

[FlakAttack]

I'm not whining per-say I just find it incredibly silly that they're throwing such a humongous fit over a $17 game which hasnt even been delayed 2 weeks. If they're so immature that they cant wait that long I fear for the coming generation.
I understand what you mean. Their reasoning might (maybe even say probably?) be bad.... but we don't know the full story. One poster just mentioned he was buying it to get some last minute gaming in, other people might have other personal reasons as to why this delay doesn't work for them. I know I'm going to play this game, I hope I'm going to enjoy it, I still have my pre-order, and if I see you in-game I'll give you a quick hello :) But I won't judge other people for cancelling their pre-order: a date was set, that date didn't come through, and feeling indignified about it (especially when the publisher is being so tight lipped about it) is a natural and appropriate response.

[sgtCooper]

it's just 17 euros. why do you have to cancel it..?

[Rific453]

I really don't understand why they are cancelling a pre-order because they are getting a game a couple days late...

I personally bought four more copies, maybe that will make up for some of the drop-outs.

[JoyL]

I really don't understand why they are cancelling a pre-order because they are getting a game a couple days late...

I personally bought four more copies, maybe that will make up for some of the drop-outs.

good for you that you've money to waste buying 8 copies of this game.

[dutchtimer]

P2P is a mayor disappointment

[rmartinezdl]

[QUOTE=FrontlinerDelta;25493968]While I'm not as angry at them and I really do want to play the game, I too feel that I should cancel my preorder.

This is pretty unprofessional to cancel the DAY BEFORE release./QUOTE]

Just canceled my pre-order as well.

Reason:

Last minute delay and the most important point for me: Lack of information.

Just bought Rage - pretty sure they will not delay the release-date.:rolleyes:

EDIT: Nice quote...

LOL! Enjoying rage? or did you RAGEd from that buggy game?

[Rixoli]

Simply put ladies and gentlemen what these people do with their own money is of their own concern. Is it silly that they're willing to cancel a pre-order overall? In MY opinion yes however we must understand that everyone has different trains of thought.

Some will blame this on the Developers when its not their fault at all, its Sony's for demanding the delay and demanding an information blackout on why this titles not being released just yet.

Some just complain because they enjoy watching others blow a gasket at their perceived stupidity when they state their 'reasons' for it. (AKA Troll)

Others are simply too impatient to wait and want to spend their money elsewhere where they can get immediate gratification.

Myself personally? I'm going to stand by and wait a little. See where the reviews for this game go in the first day or two and determine my purchase from that point on. Even if not everyone shares the same opinions as me if the entire general audience seems to enjoy it then theres USUALLY a reason!


TL;DR Everyone thinks differently, dont have a fit BECAUSE someone demands a refund, even when you stop and think on the person's reasoning for 5-10 minutes and no matter which way you slice it makes no sense, be paitient for a few days and the madness will end in a few days!


Amen?

[retro101]

Glad i didnt preorder this game yet, but i am happy the devs explained the issue so ill still buy it when it actually comes out. Better support than whats going on with Dead Island. They just secretly released a patch today now no ones game is starting LOL

[NY_Knux]

I really don't understand why they are cancelling a pre-order because they are getting a game a couple days late...

I personally bought four more copies, maybe that will make up for some of the drop-outs.

Don't know about OP, But I MIGHT cancel my preorder if the game isnt out by friday.

See, I'm attending comic-con, and since I only go to the city when its work related, I kinda want as much money as i can get.

[FrontlinerDelta]

LOL! Enjoying rage? or did you RAGEd from that buggy game?

Don't combine my post with someone else's. I didn't buy rage either.

[mycha1536]

Sorry but they can't just keep all of us uninformed !!! there is no release date just October 2011 ? TOT GOOD ENOUGH !!!!!!!!!!!

[Rixoli]

Sorry but they can't just keep all of us uninformed !!! there is no release date just October 2011 ? NOT GOOD ENOUGH !!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry to inform you boyo but the world does not, in fact, revolve around you. The developers have to go along with the publisher's will. Lets not forget the fact that Overkill (the game's developers) specifically stated they would rather release a game they believe to be as bug-free as possible rather than requiring a patch on the day its released as opposed to some developers (You know who you are).

Personally I think its an admirable goal considering such BS is becoming WAY too commonplace in the gaming community. Not to mention that this isn't the first time such incidents have occurred. People seem to forget that just because a game has a release date that until the game is on shelves nothing should be considered set in stone.

Un-fixable bugs can occur, unforeseen logistical errors can happen. Things might just not be going according to schedule or the publisher/developer's advisors/managers might just tell everyone to hold the hell on and wait until XXXX title has lost it's first rush of traffic. Allowing their own game/movie/product more attention on it's release.

This isn't just about entertaining us, Its about making a profit too. Its about Overkill wanting to do the job right the first time so they can leave a lasting impression with both the public and it's fellow businesses. This helps them get more attractive publishing opportunities way down the line and attracts more customers. I'm not even a business major, this is just common sense.

[Chubz123]

I really don't understand why they are cancelling a pre-order because they are getting a game a couple days late...

You don't know why? I'll tell you why: They're complete ♥♥♥♥ing idiots.

[echo_fox]

You don't know why? I'll tell you why: They're complete ♥♥♥♥ing idiots.

Some are mad because the game was delayed for an undisclosed duration. While others, such as you, are obviously mad at those who cancelled. I was pissed off for a moment, but I got over it when I saw that at least one of their team came here to try and save face to explain the situation and have decided not to cancel after all.

After seeing you rage however, I feel embarrassed myself for getting mad, because you sir sound like a fat greasy basement dwelling virgin with nerd rage problems. Chill out and go eat another hot pocket.

[Pixit]

This is pretty unprofessional to cancel the DAY BEFORE release. It's also very fishy imo, I'm not sure I trust them that much now. They're either extremely incompetent or something else and it concerns me that they didn't realize it would have to be delayed until today (or they announced it today, which is something to protest as well).

Yes, yes, yes. You, your friends and everyone else with these crazy theories won't be missed.

Good bye.

[Rixoli]

Some are mad because the game was delayed for an undisclosed duration. While others, such as you, are obviously mad at those who cancelled. I was jarateed off for a moment, but I got over it when I saw that at least one of their team came here to try and save face to explain the situation and have decided not to cancel after all.

After seeing you rage however, I feel embarrassed myself for getting mad, because you sir sound like a fat greasy basement dwelling virgin with nerd rage problems. Chill out and go eat another hot pocket.

.....(Hugs echo_fox, hands him a cookie and coupon for free internets) you, good sir/madam have earned this, Rep up ahoy

[Rific453]

After seeing you rage however, I feel embarrassed myself for getting mad, because you sir sound like a fat greasy basement dwelling virgin with nerd rage problems. Chill out and go eat another hot pocket.

And stereotypically labelling someone and insulting them is any better? I think you both really need to get past the maturity diapers.

People can cancel if they want or not, some of them will re-purchase at a higher price anyway. I was simply supporting an "Indie" developer by buying multiple copies so my friends can enjoy it when the game comes out instead of pre-purchasing the next AAA title that I might pre-order next time I get a paycheck anyway...

The whole point of pre-purchasing a game is not to get it early or get special treatment (minus going on sale), its supposed to boost the developers by saying "Hey, I'm getting your game" when they see the sales numbers. (And in the case of physical pre-purchasing, reserving a copy as well.) If you weren't getting a discount (ala Skyrim) what is the difference between pre-ordering and buying it as the game gets released? The developers get a little reminder that says that people expect a well developed, good looking and fun to play title.

[Unleaded]

I'm going to give them till the end of the week, if nothing is announced, I believe I will be canceling my preorder. Why?

Not because of the delay, but I feel I've been lied to. They didn't announce the delay till right before the launch time, and said it was because they felt the game was really close, and that they could get it out in time. Then later that day say, the game is done they are awaiting final certification. Then even later they bring up technical server issues causing the delay. So obviously they weren't close, obviously the game is not done.

All they had to say, was the game had last minute issues arise, and we are working to fix them, and will let you know when we can. Instead I got statements, but then more statements, that contradict the earlier ones, and to me, that's not a company that deserves my money.

[Dubyew]

It's their money, what does it matter to you what people do with it? If they want to cancel their pre-orders they are more than welcome to, and you know what you can do about it? Nothing. So stop whining.

You're right about the first part; it is their money and they can do what they want with it.

If they were just cancelling pre-orders, nobody would be commenting. Once they decide to publicly denounce the game and/or the developers as if to justify their cancellation, then they are in fact whining and opening themselves up to all the criticism they can take.

It's the difference between choosing to cancel a reservation at a restaurant and... choosing to cancel a reservation at a restaurant, then standing outside of the restaurant screaming how the food, chefs, and management are terrible.

Let them cancel, but if they choose to whine about it, then they shouldn't complain for being called on whining.

[Unleaded]

Not really, you see a restaurant has a customer service hotline, or a complaint number, or a manager to talk to. There is a way to voice your concerns to those who matter. There is also websites with reviews of places to rate the service and or food, for others to see.

I voiced my concerns and reasons why I am considering cancelling, in hopes the devs will possibly read it. The only current way I know to contact the developers, and voice these complaints, is twitter or email (which I have sent an email regarding this), and twitter limits my chars to 160, so I hope maybe the right people will read this forum, and understand my frustration. I also hope that maybe they won't do this again.

I don't believe I whined, I believe that I was correct when I stated that I keep getting contradicting statements from the development team, which makes me not want to support them.

[Rific453]

Not because of the delay, but I feel I've been lied to. They didn't announce the delay till right before the launch time, and said it was because they felt the game was really close, and that they could get it out in time. Then later that day say, the game is done they are awaiting final certification. Then even later they bring up technical server issues causing the delay. So obviously they weren't close, obviously the game is not done.
Thats not really how it works...
The game is "done" they hand it to Sony without any bugs (to their knowlege) and Sony finds bugs during their inspection. If they had passed the inspection it would have been released at the correct time on the 4th.

[rmartinezdl]

Thats not really how it works...
The game is "done" they hand it to Sony without any bugs (to their knowlege) and Sony finds bugs during their inspection. If they had passed the inspection it would have been released at the correct time on the 4th.

REP+ exactly, anyways they delayed it so we get a better game

[Unleaded]

REP+ exactly, anyways they delayed it so we get a better game

Battlefield 3?

[Rixoli]

Battlefield 3?

I'd rather keep payday thanks, Battlefield 3 just strikes me as more of the same shtick we've been getting for far too long now. While it has replay-value perhaps, Payday apparently has an AI system similar to "The Director" Ala Left 4 Dead, which means you'll rarely have 2 games that are the same

[Chubz123]

Some are mad because the game was delayed for an undisclosed duration. While others, such as you, are obviously mad at those who cancelled. I was jarateed off for a moment, but I got over it when I saw that at least one of their team came here to try and save face to explain the situation and have decided not to cancel after all.

Exactly. You have sense, they don't. That's why they're complete, impatient idiots. And now you're, in a sense, standing up for them and saying that you're ashamed by my behavior? Listen, buddy: I just call it like I see it. If you don't like it, perhaps you should cover your eyes and ears and turn away and leave this discussion to those who can handle it. The delay isn't a big deal and it never was. It's just a few weeks and the developers have plainly stated we should definitely be seeing the game this month. If you canceled your pre-order because the developers held the game back just a few weeks to iron out the last remaining bugs, you didn't deserve to play the game in the first place. Go ahead, get your refund and go play whatever it is you play. But for the love of God, the least you could do is show these developers some respect. They're working and communicating with the community here on the forums and have explained themselves multiple times. I'll conclude my rant right here. And if you've any more cute comments about my masculinity or weight, feel free and shoot me a PM and we'll settle that one-on-one.

[DonkyBoY]

So the devs treet us to information and a proper apology telling us the game will still make a october release treating us like human beings that want a proper working product (as opposed to buggy as and frustrating software like is becoming to comon these days)

they explain why when they dont realy have to do any thing at all and still your going to treat them like poo and by bad mouting them and taking your money back

they should be aplauded for thier efforts to keep us informed and in the loop
they should be recocnised as not treating thier customers like poo
and i welcome a proper working game on day 1

go be counter productive in another titles forums where those companny abuse thier customers

[echo_fox]

Exactly. You have sense, they don't. That's why they're complete, impatient idiots. And now you're, in a sense, standing up for them and saying that you're ashamed by my behavior? Listen, buddy: I just call it like I see it. If you don't like it, perhaps you should cover your eyes and ears and turn away and leave this discussion to those who can handle it. The delay isn't a big deal and it never was. It's just a few weeks and the developers have plainly stated we should definitely be seeing the game this month. If you canceled your pre-order because the developers held the game back just a few weeks to iron out the last remaining bugs, you didn't deserve to play the game in the first place. Go ahead, get your refund and go play whatever it is you play. But for the love of God, the least you could do is show these developers some respect. They're working and communicating with the community here on the forums and have explained themselves multiple times. I'll conclude my rant right here. And if you've any more cute comments about my masculinity or weight, feel free and shoot me a PM and we'll settle that one-on-one.

Firstly, I said you sound like such, not that you indeed were. It was an observation not a statement of fact.

Secondly, everyone who is upset about the delay are all upset about the delay itself but for different reasons. Mine was, if it is delayed until the end of the month there is really no point because of all the other games that will be consuming my time, such as Skyrim and MW3.

I'm just saying, there are two sides to every story and everyone has their own reason, so dont go around throwing everyone that cancels into the same category. Overkill has done a lot to redeem themselves and this delay, but the fact is that this is not a good start for a company releasing its first game. I dont care what you or anyone else says, a last minute delay is never acceptable under any circumstance especially without any communication as to the cause at all, which for the first 48 hours happened.

Why should the PC users be punished because SOE sucks and wants a perfect UI for the MP interface? Why couldnt overkill be competent and get it right the first time, or atleast good enough to still function and be perfected by a later patch?

I was mad before Simon came here to explain, that showed me these guys are much different than your common corporate giant dev who care about nothing more than sales figures and their next fat paycheck. When they came here to explain as much as they could without getting in trouble with SOE (don't get me started on them, they are the optimity of what is wrong with the gaming industry and could care less about the common consumer as long as the money river keeps flowing, and nothing anyone can say will ever change my mind.. F**k them, plain and simple) it earned my respect. If they are willing to come here and take time out of their day to communicate with us and try to explain, then they deserve respect and patience, at least in my eyes.

If Overkill had acted like, say, EA, and simply delayed without giving a damn, I would say f**k it and hope everyone cancelled. But they didnt and it sets them apart from the rest.

[Chubz123]

That's a good boy.

[echo_fox]

That's a good boy.

Oh look, another self-righteous male who thinks everyone posting on the internet in an gaming forum is a boy. I will conclude my burn here. But don't think because I'm a girl I won't scrap, I have two older brothers I can make scream in terror, tough guy.

[I.SLAPTED.IT]

Oh look, another self-righteous male who thinks everyone posting on the internet in an gaming forum is a boy. I will conclude my burn here, and don't think because I'm a girl I won't scrap, I have two older brothers I can make scream with terror, tough guy.

That's hot!!! Meow!!!!!

[FlakAttack]

We'd just like to say something about people cancelling pre-orders and posting about this, and other people being angry over this.

We at OVERKILL Software think that everyone is entitled to their opinions and feeling. If you pre-ordered the game and feel cheated because it didn't come out on time - then you have every right to be angry, you have every right to write a post about how angry you are and you certainly have the right to cancel your pre-order. You as a consumer have every right to expect a product to come out the day the publisher says it will come out.

Nowhere in our original post in this thread did we forbid anyone to feel or do any of these things - and no-one should flame you for doing it, so let's all just calm down and get along.

On the same note, we'd like to thank everyone who shows their continued faith in us and the product. We're glad that you give us the grace of continued encouragement despite the missed release date. Some may say we don't deserve it but God knows we appreciate it.

We think that Payday is a great game, and we know that for anyone who cancelled their pre-orders there is always the option to re-order ;) ...so we hope you'll eventually forgive and forget, try the demo out, and be convinced to come back to Payday and get your heist on!
As I've said to others: Overkill understands that people have all kinds of reasons for wanting to cancel their pre-orders: why can't you idiots do the same?

[xneon911]

Really funny you don't see them on PSN where there is no way of getting your money back.They are just here, because steam will give you a refund.As far as I see it,this has all been planned since Battlefield 3 gave their release date!

[Rixoli]

Oh look, another self-righteous male who thinks everyone posting on the internet in an gaming forum is a boy. I will conclude my burn here. But don't think because I'm a girl I won't scrap, I have two older brothers I can make scream in terror, tough guy.

Whether or not your a male or female is of no concern to the topic at hand. although his statement was uncalled for admittedly no-one is trying to be sexist (I would hope). Lets keep this discussion on topic shall we?

[DrSNAFU]

You haven’t been here long if this is the biggest whine-fest you've seen.

I myself kicked up a huge stink over the Dead Island debacle. When a developer is outright incompetent or greedy, I get hot under the collar. But I’m willing to cut these guys some slack. Why?

Firstly they’re the small fish in the pond, lacking the deep pockets and corporate allies that others have. Instead of over-marketing their games and then releasing a buggy piece of crap on-time and absconding with the money, these guys have the stones to blow off the all-important release date and keep it until it’s DONE. It shows they care about the game and their good name. It’s the kind of thing I’d do in their situation.

But… if it is a steaming pile on release or they take an extra eon for retooling, then I might get pissed. But this? Don’t get your panties in a bunch.

[Metal_Izanagi]

Meh. Cancelled my pre-order anyway, it's worth my two bucks to see for myself if the game is a pile of crap or not. If it is, I saved eighteen bucks. If not, I lose two more dollars when I buy it again. Big deal. Regardless, those of you that are also annoyed with Overkill, remember that we don't have to defend ourselves to these ♥♥♥♥-offs calling us "whiners" and "entitled". We're above them, anyway. They've proven that by trying to tell someone what to do over the internet, of all places. They want to waste their time defending Overkill, that's their loss. Meanwhile, I will enjoy eighteen dollars I almost spent on something I didn't want at the time. Pimp decision.

[Elder Drake]

After rethinking my stance, I am on the same page and have decided to cancel my pre-order. I get that the game has technical problems but to pull it the day before launch with an ambiguous release date of the end of the month doesn't work for me.

I was looking to this as a filler and distraction until the avalanche of titles slaps my wallet. Overkill will be losing a lot of money over this. Delaying the game to put it into the cross hairs of this rush...bad move. Whatever development issues that came up are not our fault. Someone dropped the ball, the schedule got mucked and now this game can contend with the sales hit from the FPS and other AAA title madness around the corner. Good luck.

[Fekkoff]

I wanna cancel pre-order too and get my money back, Been over a week since release date and still no new info or anything!
Skyrim is coming out soon with alot of other good games too! :) And they wont pull the release just hours before its being launched :)
Was about to say this is the most unprofessional release iwe ever seen, but oh yeah, it hasnt been released :) And god they must have lost alot of potentional customers by now :)

[echo_fox]

Whether or not your a male or female is of no concern to the topic at hand. although his statement was uncalled for admittedly no-one is trying to be sexist (I would hope). Lets keep this discussion on topic shall we?

So he can go completely off topic to belittle me, but when I say back in defense I'M in the wrong and you go off topic to call me out? Fine, side with him. Makes perfect sense.

Meh. Cancelled my pre-order anyway, it's worth my two bucks to see for myself if the game is a pile of crap or not. If it is, I saved eighteen bucks. If not, I lose two more dollars when I buy it again. Big deal. Regardless, those of you that are also annoyed with Overkill, remember that we don't have to defend ourselves to these ♥♥♥♥-offs calling us "whiners" and "entitled". We're above them, anyway. They've proven that by trying to tell someone what to do over the internet, of all places. They want to waste their time defending Overkill, that's their loss. Meanwhile, I will enjoy eighteen dollars I almost spent on something I didn't want at the time. Pimp decision.

If I could rep you I would, the most sensible response I have seen yet. I couldn't agree more with everything you've said, even though I still have not brought myself to cancel, I will give them more time because I feel they deserve some slack and understanding. But if I do cancel however, I won't be re-ordering, ever.


After rethinking my stance, I am on the same page and have decided to cancel my pre-order. I get that the game has technical problems but to pull it the day before launch with an ambiguous release date of the end of the month doesn't work for me.

I was looking to this as a filler and distraction until the avalanche of titles slaps my wallet. Overkill will be losing a lot of money over this. Delaying the game to put it into the cross hairs of this rush...bad move. Whatever development issues that came up are not our fault. Someone dropped the ball, the schedule got mucked and now this game can contend with the sales hit from the FPS and other AAA title madness around the corner. Good luck.

Another rep-worthy reply, while I really don't think we should be cancelling just yet, this game does look amazing and if I do get it I want to play online with people like yourself. But the delay is extremely unprofessional and they really should have got this right the first time. If they were to maybe say, hey we know we screwed up, so here is an extra gun or map we were saving for DLC that we will include at launch, I think this would make up for the un-deserved delay and help them maintain pre-orders.

[Rixoli]

So he can go completely off topic to belittle me, but when I say back in defense I'M in the wrong and you go off topic to call me out? Fine, side with him. Makes perfect sense.


As I stated, his comment was uncalled for, your first comment I can agree with. The point being people are being overly emotional about their points of view. HOWEVER your reaction to his calling you a "Good Boy" didnt require a heaping pile of "I'm a big girl and I can fight like any other guy here". This IS the internet after all.

You are probably never going to see any of these people in the flesh so bragging whether or not you can beat the tar out of your male siblings (Whom could be push-overs as far as I know or am concerned) has no valid point. Therefore is completely irrelevant to the case at hand. It has about as much of a point as me saying for instance that i've slept with all of my neighbor's daughters. Not only is this unproven its completely irrelevant to the matter at hand of cancelled pre-orders.

/rant

Now can we please get back to the subject at hand?

[echo_fox]

As I stated, his comment was uncalled for, your first comment I can agree with. The point being people are being overly emotional about their points of view. HOWEVER your reaction to his calling you a "Good Boy" didnt require a heaping pile of "I'm a big girl and I can fight like any other guy here". This IS the internet after all.

You are probably never going to see any of these people in the flesh so bragging whether or not you can beat the tar out of your male siblings (Whom could be push-overs as far as I know or am concerned) has no valid point. Therefore is completely irrelevant to the case at hand. It has about as much of a point as me saying for instance that i've slept with all of my neighbor's daughters. Not only is this unproven its completely irrelevant to the matter at hand of cancelled pre-orders.

/rant

Now can we please get back to the subject at hand?

Indeed, I was over it when I made my last reply. I did not however, need you to chime in about me making one off topic post like he did. In a sense, you went off topic to call me out for going off topic, which makes you no different. Notice I didn't say hypocrite.

Actually would have already been back on topic had you not decided to make a quote, so touche.

/back on topic

This game really needs to be released already, before anymore preorders are cancelled. I do not see why they can't just keep monkeying with the ps3 version for SOE and give us our damned PC version, I could care less about the ps3. I wonder if this is going to turn into a practice, with future DLC and games. I sure hope not.

[NY_Knux]

Meh. Cancelled my pre-order anyway, it's worth my two bucks to see for myself if the game is a pile of crap or not. If it is, I saved eighteen bucks. If not, I lose two more dollars when I buy it again. Big deal. Regardless, those of you that are also annoyed with Overkill, remember that we don't have to defend ourselves to these ♥♥♥♥-offs calling us "whiners" and "entitled". We're above them, anyway. They've proven that by trying to tell someone what to do over the internet, of all places. They want to waste their time defending Overkill, that's their loss. Meanwhile, I will enjoy eighteen dollars I almost spent on something I didn't want at the time. Pimp decision.

Quote for truth

[iTonez]

This game really needs to be released already, before anymore preorders are cancelled. I do not see why they can't just keep monkeying with the ps3 version for SOE and give us our damned PC version, I could care less about the ps3. I wonder if this is going to turn into a practice, with future DLC and games. I sure hope not.

agreed, is that a big of a deal to release Ps3 and PC on the same time?
Also people would still buy the game thinking its already out ahha after that they are screwed...