[SPOILERS] Any ideas on how to unlock..

[Jankanpo]

the Iris achievement?

I can see it on the global achievements thing, but I can't figure out what to do. I figured it had something to do with spell placements and using them in a certain order, but sorting the colors by the rainbow and by type didn't seem to work for me, unless I just picked the wrong colors..

[IridiumStudios]

I'm going to unhide the description in a second...

...but I doubt it's going to help you. :cool:

[Jankanpo]

I'm looking at it, and I am extremely perplexed by this achievement

[IridiumStudios]

I'll give you a clue.

You're going to want to closely examine all item descriptions of items obtained on the seventh floor.

[Falk]

\tcag what?

[Vpower]

I kinda think it has to do with numbers, but this achievement is making me crazy xD.

[IridiumStudios]

Hmm. Falk is on the hunt...

[Jankanpo]

I think I'm overthinking this somewhere...

Alright, so what I've got so far based from your hint is that it deals with the items on the seventh floor. I remember seeing you type that to someone else on this forum, and it was in this thread:
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2191313

In that thread he mentioned a website which mentions a hint towards this bonus stuff as well:
http://gear-fish.com/?reviews=sequence

Based on his reply after finding out how to do it, it is heavily implied that it is not based on the game, although that could be a red herring as well. I've looked through all the install files and couldn't find anything there, so I looked through all the scripts and found nothing there as well.. I've tried converting the binary from the extract raw item from floor 7, and it just says "/tcag". I've tried pressing and holding "/tcag" in various menus, including the main menu, as well as trying to find somewhere to input it. I can't really find a link between the items on floor 7, which makes me think that I'm overlooking or overthinking something. :(

The Lilac Crystal's description sounds like something related to an item that would be called "Malignant Cancer", but besides that I can't find any leads on what to look for.

I've tried to see if the item you get from floor ??? is related to the /tcag command, but I don't think that's it either.

@_@ i don't know why indie game achivements drive me up the wall

[IridiumStudios]

Hmmmm.

I will point out that the Item Description for Extract is the same as it was when the game was released for Xbox Live Indie Games. Remember, no keyboard is available on the 360, so maybe your discovery has to be used somewhere else...

[Deepflame]

This achievement took me a bit of work to figure out, but that last comment helped me figure it out. :)

I had a little technical difficulty with the achievement, it shouldn't be spoilerific, but just in case. ;)
I had to hook up my xbox controller to my PC in order to actually complete it because it wouldn't work with my keyboard. :/ PC went beep. :P

[Jankanpo]

That just makes me think that this achievement requires holding down specific keys to unlock, but I don't see anything that remotely resembles a G button ;_;

I'm so lost

[Falk]

I hate you so people so much. I should be doing assignments but I'm sitting here trying to figure this out.

I'd have already given up (for today) and gone back to assignments except you had to goad me on by saying you figured it out. AUGH

[Jankanpo]

i've spent the last 5 hours trying to think logically on what the solution to this puzzle could possibly be

[IridiumStudios]

Okay, now I'm starting to feel bad.

[Falk]

Don't be. It's not often there is a puzzle that requires some thought rather than google. ;p

In fact the entire gameflow is based around developing skill/hand-eye coordination/techniques, which you can't readily get off a FAQ or Youtube video, which already makes it a more meaningful game than 90% of the triple-A titles out on the market at the moment in my book.

[mystrdat]

I thought it would be a startup command for the game, but no go there. Lumen gigno lumen. According to Deepflame's post, the combination should be pressed somewhere (since his PC went "beep"), unless he's trolling us here big time. I wonder if in that case, international keyboards could have an issue. Meh so far.

[IridiumStudios]

You do not enter the sequence you're talking about anywhere in the game. Trust me.

[madcatz1999]

You do not enter the sequence you're talking about anywhere in the game. Trust me.
You're being way too nice ;) After participating in the Portal 2 ARG, I thought this was child's play :p I was successful with my second idea. My first was to set a certain string as a launch option. Thought I was successful after seeing an item in my inventory that I didn't recognize, before I realized that it was something one of the monsters dropped :o

[mystrdat]

OMG the backslash was pointing me the wrong way, into the file structure. Thanks for the hint.

edit: Yeah, I was afraid it won't work anyway due to keyboard blocks. I'll have to script it through AutoHotkey or something... Not sure if making it impossible for the majority of users is intended or not :)

[Crunchles]

I think I have it figured out but
I've entered the input I'm told to when I go outside the game and nothing happens...

[joek00]

Is there a reason you gave us the Imaginary Number Pod at the postgame. Is getting certain dropable items necessary other than the hint from the extract.

[Somnlaut]

Tip: don't overthink it.

[IridiumStudios]

I didn't know about this hardware limitation. I'll change the code for Monday's patch.

If you don't know what I'm talking about, don't worry about it. ;)

[mystrdat]

Cool! In the meantime, if anyone figures out the first part of the riddle and then suffers with the regular keyboard block, he can use this AutoHotkey macro in the appropriate places before it's updated to a different string. Pressing Win+P will do the trick. *WARNING THIS IS A MAJOR SPOILER*

#p::
SendInput {c down}{a down}{n down}{e down}{r down}
Sleep 200
SendInput {, down}
Sleep 1000
SendInput {c up}{a up}{n up}{e up}{r up}{, up}

Btw, I wanted to say this game and your support has been a very refreshing and entertaining experience. Thank you, Jason. Will do a short review and push it out to my subs in a bit.

[Jankanpo]

I've done all of the potato ARG and got the golden potato and am still stumped by this D:

I think I'm way overthinking it, but looking at the new hints makes me think I've really been overthinking it lol

[Jankanpo]

OH WOW I'M SO STUPID
just figured it out

really??

[IridiumStudios]

I LOL'ed.

[Vpower]

OH WOW I'M SO STUPID
just figured it out

really??

same lmao :p.

[mystrdat]

I'm not sure how to underthink it.

-edit: mystrdat's spoiler below is the total spoiler and I am completely mystified. How on earth did you get from these points of data to that?

Think outside of the game.

I LOL'ed.

https://plus.google.com/106374858242966024813/posts

[mystrdat]

I thought outside the game, but I discounted the The Alliance for Cancer Gene/The Centre for Applied Genomics/The Cancer Genome Atlas

Your browser is getting warm. Now where would you use it?

[Garlyle]

Figured it out. Here's my hint for people:
If you've already figured out to think 'outside the game' for the answer: If you've gotten the clue, look at what it resembles and you should clue yourself in.

It is one of the oldest, simplest tricks in the ARG books

The only question is where to use it, but realistically, there's only so many places it can go, right?
It was totally worth it. The reward helped me take on the game's last obstacle on Spasmodic and overcome it - damage output was really the only thing stopping me and it was a lot better answer than just grinding through it.

[Fandango]

Hm, well it'd have been a nicer surprise if I hadn't already gotten that one other thing that's even more powerful. I guess it was meant to be discovered before finishing the game, though it'll definitely give me an edge if I decide to start a new game in Spasmodic (I've been playing in Hard). :D

[ajs410]

I'm looking into this achievement. One thing I noticed

/tcag - T C A G are the four DNA nucleotides. I see some comments about cancer and a hidden weapon called Malignant Cancer

but I still haven't put everything together yet. Gotta re-examine all the drops from the 7th floor.

[IridiumStudios]

I'm glad someone noticed that. :)

Still, you might be thinking too hard...

[Garlyle]

I'm looking into this achievement. One thing I noticed

/tcag - T C A G are the four DNA nucleotides. I see some comments about cancer and a hidden weapon called Malignant Cancer

but I still haven't put everything together yet. Gotta re-examine all the drops from the 7th floor.
It's great that you figured out four of the five characters.

But what about the first one? What's the meaning of it?

[MithranArkanere]

Oh, gods. In front of my nose the whole time.

I even looked at the store page before, but it didn't occur to me. Probably because I had the "Display Steam URL address bar when available" setting disabled.

I better leave that check box checked. Maybe I'll notice something like this sooner next time.

Sigh...

[Fangride]

I *think* I'm doing it right, however the game refuses to unlock the achievement for me >.<

To be vague about what I'm doing - put the letters where I... want to go.

[madcatz1999]

I *think* I'm doing it right, however the game refuses to unlock the achievement for me >.<

To be vague about what I'm doing - put the letters where I... want to go.
If you think you're doing it right, I doubt you are. What you need to do is very clear once you "figure it out".

[ajs410]

Ah, it makes sense now. It still took me a few tries to realize what I was supposed to do, but I had never done this kinda thing before. In hindsight it all makes perfect sense and explains some earlier comments by others.

[crowebird]

Sort of off topic but:
So in trying to figure this one out and re-getting all the 7th floor items... I just wanted to say this is crap:

http://steamcommunity.com/id/crowebird/screenshot/630728788583040399 (Yes, I missed an item drop at 95%, lol)

[IridiumStudios]

I laughed.

[AudaciousKevin]

Sort of off topic but:
So in trying to figure this one out and re-getting all the 7th floor items... I just wanted to say this is crap:

http://steamcommunity.com/id/crowebird/screenshot/630728788583040399 (Yes, I missed an item drop at 95%, lol)

That's got to suck. I hate that it seems 25% chance to succeed is much much lower of a chance than 25% chance to fail (with an item at 75% chance to craft), but that's probably just psychological. Of course I'm one of the lucky ones that got the final 9% item without a huge amount of effort or any percentage boosting items lol.

But here's a good question, how do you have that weapon and accessory when you need to get that third item you unluckily missed to craft something to go somewhere to do something to get that weapon and that accessory that gives you 95% chance to get the item you need to GAH! PARADOX!


On topic: I decoded the binary message of /tcag but don't see where it goes. I'm just hoping someone lets something slip in this thread lol. Already have all the other achievements aside from Buzzer Beater, which will entail me playing a short song on floor 1 and timing my 1 hit KO perfectly.

Ah, got it after reviewing some of the things people have said in spoiler tags. Also the trick to Buzzer Beater was to do the very first battle on floor 1 on easy and cast Slash with about 5 seconds left on the clock (when strong enough for 1 hit ko, of course)

[madcatz1999]

If there was an achievement for "would've beat an enemy if you had one more second on the clock", I would've gotten that one on about my 20th try on the hardest battle :(

[BlueDraconis]

Can you get this achievement before getting to floor 7?
I've just started a new game on easy because learning luminous on medium was too hard for me.:(

[IridiumStudios]

No. It would break the game balance if it were possible. = (

[crowebird]

But here's a good question, how do you have that weapon and accessory when you need to get that third item you unluckily missed to craft something to go somewhere to do something to get that weapon and that accessory that gives you 95% chance to get the item you need to GAH! PARADOX!


:D I already beat the game at this point, but I had either used all my items for crafting or experience... at this point I was just re-getting all the level 7 items to re-read the descriptions.... or did I ???

[Painseeker]

I have everything done except for this one achievement and I'm too dumb to figure it out even after reading every post in this thread. God damn it

[Xobo]

Same here, and it's also the only achievement I'm missing.

Too dumb to figure it out even with hints here. :(

[ajs410]

The best hint for me was...

what does the / mean? think "outside the box"

[iJeko]

So, i've been trying to unlock this almost 4 hours yesterday night; help would be appreciated. I'm starting to think it's some browser problem/hardware problem or something like that.


So, the extract gives you the message /tcga in binary code.
The / made me think about a Browser, in fact the firs thing i did was to google and i obtained the same information all of you had.
The Cancer Genoma Atlas, etc, etc, etc...
Now, you all talk about a code to insert; my question is... where?
If it's a browser thing, i've tried everything and it didn't work, being it on steam general page, on those /tcga sites or the Store page of the game.
And, inside the game, there is nowhere to input a code; let alone if it's alphabetical.

I'm really missing the point, and the thing is driving me nut; can somebody please help me already before this thing make me crazy? ;_;

Thanks in Advance.

Edit: /tcag, i always write these things too late.

[MithranArkanere]

[...]

Open Steam -> Go to Details of the game -> Visit store page for the game -> Next step here -> Some pasting here -> Some reading -> Launch game -> Profit.

[AudaciousKevin]

Stuff.

[Xobo]

I spent a few more hours on this but ultimately gave up... Got the achievement the lame way. ;)

I still have no idea how to get that from hints though.

[madcatz1999]

So, i've been trying to unlock this almost 4 hours yesterday night; help would be appreciated. I'm starting to think it's some browser problem/hardware problem or something like that.
First off, you messed up the very first step. Try it again, because you shouldn't get what you say you got (or you typed it here incorrectly, one or the other).
I have no idea how you're supposed to get this combination even after the hints from the game, but here it is.
Well, what you've posted becomes very, very clear once you figure out the first step or two.

[IridiumStudios]

I just want to thank everyone here for only giving hints, not ruining it outright. It's fun to figure things out on your own! Plus, the lower the percentage of people who have earned the achievement, the cooler you look for having it. :cool:

[crowebird]

I just want to thank everyone here for only giving hints, not ruining it outright. It's fun to figure things out on your own! Plus, the lower the percentage of people who have earned the achievement, the cooler you look for having it. :cool:

w00t for .6%! :D

[Garlyle]

I have to admit I did kind of feel like a badass when I was sitting in the 0.1% of people with the achievement, since that's as low as it gets.

I think it's the first time I've ever done that, so yay!

[Kayma]

Managed to get it with only some hints! I'm pretty proud of myself. Thanks for this game, Iridium/Feep/Ky. You're the man.

[Togedude]

To anyone still having trouble, remember this:

The information from Extract applied to the Xbox Live Indie release as well. Despite everyone mentioning Steam (for some reason), look somewhere that has always been associated with Sequence since it came out on the Xbox.

EDIT: Also, just want to add that I've unlocked every achievement now! I'll be sure to come back as soon as any more content gets released. Thanks, Iridium, for making one of the most fun and unique games I've ever played!

[Tamath]

As I've never really gone in for ARG, the Iris achivement was... well... mean. But I finally sussed it from looking at the hints in the thread and I'm glad someone translated the binary for Extract, I have no idea how :p

Finished the game on Hard and wished I picked Spasmodic, as only the very last two encounters offered any sort of challenge. I guess I should have known better as a Guitar Hero junkie.

[TheKbob]

Yeah, I dont play ARGs because of well... time. Including one in the game... I'm mixed. Seems like some people really enjoyed it, but not having any idea what to do for something is just stupid.

None of the hints in this thread helped me until midway through it was pretty much *smash face to screen, see this?* obvious. I probably would have looked up the first step, but I would have never made the connection between the second and third portion. I think there should be something else in the game to help point that out instead of needing a forum to find it.

I am in no way stupid, but with no ARG experience?... You'd never figure it out.

:(

I loved the game, but this put a low note on the experience for me. Plus the payoff is lacking if you already have "the big one" if you know what I mean... YES.

[Akster]

Im still completly lost as to how you were meant to work out exactly what to do even after doing what someone posted in a spoiler tag and getting the achievement. Its been killing my brain, i believe i only have a few brain cells in tact trying to figure out how to unlock it, and then to even work out how your meant to know how to unlock it.

Am guessing theres some sort of nerdy language use dor something i could not make heads or tails of :P

Just like to say, amazing game, was so surprised by how good the voice acting was. Just very unfortunate that even on the hardest difficulty it seemed really easy (unless you decide to eqip the item that increases loot drop chance)

[madcatz1999]

Im still completly lost as to how you were meant to work out exactly what to do even after doing what someone posted in a spoiler tag and getting the achievement.
That's because no one's posted the middle step, only the first and last.

[AnthonyDraft]

I have completely no idea what to do, even after I've read all the hints etc.

And it drives me completely crazy tbh.

[SweetNothing]

Got it! It was driving me crazy, too, even after reading the thread about five times. I guess I needed to sleep on it. When I woke up, I knew exactly what to do - hooray for the subconscious!

Thanks for a very enjoyable game (one of the very few I've finished) and for a maddening but ultimately satisfying puzzle.

[Tremir]

*bangs head on wall*

Got it.
Finally got it.


I got the binary easily, and translated it.
I even understood what to do with the translation, but I kept trying it on the wrong place.
And then I'm like, "bloody hell, of COURSE it goes THERE!".



brilliant.

[Stadler]

Finally got it too! Yay!

Couldn`t have done it without you guys. Thanks for the great tips!

Now I only need to grab the `Lies Within Lies` achievement.

Edit: You know what? There's people who don't like thinking, so I'll just throw the answer for them.

Here We go: I'm kidding, there's no way I'm telling this to anyone

[SSoundscape]

Beep beeeeeep beep beep beeeeeeep beep



Dammit, my transmission was cut off.



Mir! Stop interfering with my signal damn you!

[MithranArkanere]

Sigh...

It would be nice if a mod removed that post.
It's way more fun when you come up with the solution yourself.

[setzway]

I have no idea what you guys are talking about...I'm only on the fifth floor, on Hard with already 23 hours in it...

[Stadler]

23 hours on the 5th floor?! Wow! You must be level 80 or something.

[setzway]

23 hours on the 5th floor?! Wow! You must be level 80 or something.

...Or something.

Okay, I exaggerated a little, I have 18 hours so far. I am level 28, although I lost 3-6 levels on failing some synths on 95% chance. I think most of my time has been wasted on trying to learn Miasma on Hard. For the life of me I can only get to 56-63 combo and then fail. It's very frustrating, so I go back to floor 4 and fight Mysterious Sphere and kill him in one slash over and over until I'm done raging, then try again....

[Stadler]

I did that in Demon`s Souls, killing enemies with one hit just to relax. :D

And failing 95%, that's some back luck right there. But hey - at least you're enjoying it!

[MikeSugs]

Nope, no idea how one would figure that out without cheating. Anything that would require me to remap keys is ridiculous.

Great game though.

[IridiumStudios]

What? You don't have to remap keys. And it's not *that* hard to figure out. :p

[Allucard_h]

I started looking into this thread last night and was like "hmm, if I do this?" but then when I realised what this was it was actually simple and I was overthinking it xD Iridium studios I loved this game and have now got everything in there! Can't wait for a sequel!

[Azure Flash]

I don't know if I'm alone in this, but I really hate random guessing puzzles like this. It's like saying "you'll never guess what this message is! Here's a hint: it involves absurdly large prime numbers! He he he he! Get it yet? Can you find the hidden message? Bet you can't! Here's another hint because I'm feeling nice: boolean operator orgy! Found it yet? Hmmm? How could you not have found it yet? It's so simple when you know!"

[IridiumStudios]

It's uh, really not that hard. :(

[Azure Flash]

What I have to far is "Slash to get a C...". But slash what? People are saying "think outside the game", so I think I'm going to try slashing some tires in a random parking lot tomorrow, see what happens.

[IridiumStudios]

Err...how did you get that? O.o

Edit: Oh, I see. Uh...don't worry about trying to guess what those letters mean. It's not important.

[Garlyle]

What I have to far is "Slash to get a C...". But slash what? People are saying "think outside the game", so I think I'm going to try slashing some tires in a random parking lot tomorrow, see what happens.
If you got far enough to have decoded the message, which is really simple, I will tell you that it's not a set of instructions.

It's more of a code. The question is where do you use it.

The hint is in the fact that it begins with a /

[Allucard_h]

It's uh, really not that hard. :(

It's not that hard but the trouble is people tend to over-think it and the more simple the puzzle is the more people will over-think it unfortunately >: but now that I've got it I can see how helpful all the hints are xD

[ajs410]

I think part of the issue is that it's not hard if you've ever played ARGs before. If this is your first time, then it's frustratingly difficult to understand what you're not doing right. Akin to asking someone who is color blind "don't press the red button, press the green button".

It's actually almost interesting to read the thread, because the first and last step are explicitly mentioned in spoilers, but nobody explicitly mentioned the second step anywhere. It almost seems like some people don't realize there's a second step at all.

[SSoundscape]

I think Iridium's website needs its own forum and chat room.


(this is relevant)

[Azure Flash]

I really don't see how "/tcag" is simple without any context. Even thinking of splitting the binary description in 8 bits and looking them up on an ASCII table is a stretch for anyone who isn't a programmer.

Is it supposed to be pronounced? Obviously "Slash" means something in the game (even though we're supposed to think outside the game). But "tuh-gak"? "Tee gee eh see"? Slash the guy I see? I went to slash tires and now my next idea is to stab someone? This isn't going to end well...

Should we ROT13 it first so it makes sense? Bitwise shift? XOR? NOT?

Is it something that you can only "get" if you're playing with a controller? I hardly remember what an XBOX controller looks like. I'm using an IBM Model M, and I'm quite proud to say I could turn XBOX controllers into a fine dust with it and keep using it.

Is it a Nethack reference? I'm not quite sure what the significance of a wand, a lurker above, a griffon, an ant and a cockatrice is.

Is it an anagram? tagc? catg? Cat G, g being the 7th letter of the alphabet, so Cat 7, the network cables? Who uses that anyway? How is Cat 7 network cable related to this? I guess it isn't..?

Is it related to tnlug.exe? "tnlug.exe /tcag"? tnlug.exe is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file, let alone with an option like "tcag". Try again, smartass.

... That's actually what my command prompt told me. Considering switching to Linux again. Maybe the GNU project has an executable called tnlug.

Is it an anagram of the symmetric difference of the sets of letters "tnlug" and "tcag"? "nluac"? Calun? Nulac? Lanuc? Claun?

Are the 8-bit numbers actually binary-encoded atomic numbers? Let's see: Silver, Ununhexium, Lawrencium, Berkelium, Einsteinium. Yeesh. Iridium doesn't even appear, so I guess that's not it.

Well, long story short, I've given up on actually solving it, obviously. I'm just trying to extract as much silliness as possible from four letters and a slash. Hey, I've got a riddle for you: "unht$".

[Allucard_h]

It's actually "/tcag" Please don't go slashing people xD

[SSoundscape]

I solved this in less than a minute. How so few of you thought of how to solve it yet is beyond me.

[Azure Flash]

For the record, I don't even know what "ARG" stands for... Or at least I didn't until I googled it. "Alternate Reality Game"... Using the real world as a platform. Not my bag of tea, apparently. I have plenty of contact with the real world already, I'm not looking for more of that through games...

P.S.: I got it... My opinion of this achievement hasn't changed though. Cryptic and out of context.

[IridiumStudios]

I'm beginning to notice that players are more and more treating achievements as a true "part" of the game.

I would never have included something like this as part of the primary game design, because it *is* sort of cryptic, and left it as an achievement, a little bonus unlock for people who solved a medium-strength riddle. It was certainly not meant to be solved by most people.

Still, the mindset appears to be that getting all the achievements is part of "completing the game", and therefore psychologically part of the game proper.

You learn things every day, I guess.

[SSoundscape]

I'm beginning to notice that players are more and more treating achievements as a true "part" of the game.

I would never have included something like this as part of the primary game design, because it *is* sort of cryptic, and left it as an achievement, a little bonus unlock for people who solved a medium-strength riddle. It was certainly not meant to be solved by most people.

Still, the mindset appears to be that getting all the achievements is part of "completing the game", and therefore psychologically part of the game proper.

You learn things every day, I guess.

I always saw achievements as a limb to the game, and a way to add in content to a game without changing any forms of physical property in the game itself.

However, this particular achievement was not a mistake, my friend.

[Weimann]

Personally, I see achievements as something auxiliary, and I usually don't go for them unless I really like the game and want a goal to work against when I play it again. I don't mind them, but they are not a "part of the game" for me. However, the "secret" ending was absolutely a part of the game for me.

As such, I don't see it as mandatory that each achievement is, shall we say, "obtainable". It's okay to make some cryptic, or no-lifer hard. They're called achievements, after all, indicating that effort beyond the normal has been put in.

[setzway]

Personally, I see achievements as something auxiliary, and I usually don't go for them unless I really like the game and want a goal to work against when I play it again. I don't mind them, but they are not a "part of the game" for me. However, the "secret" ending was absolutely a part of the game for me.

As such, I don't see it as mandatory that each achievement is, shall we say, "obtainable". It's okay to make some cryptic, or no-lifer hard. They're called achievements, after all, indicating that effort beyond the normal has been put in.

^This except...

Achievements should be something that the player feels they "Achieved". However there should never be a "no-lifer hard" achievement. To me that's just dumb design for an achievement. All achievements should be possible so long as the player puts forth the effort to obtain them. I hate seeing ones like; "play X hours, kill X enemies, make X items, Beat the hardest level on the hardest difficulty without taking any damage and performing a 100 hit combo." Achievements should be hard but not "Wtf? How is this possible?! (RAGE!)" hard.

Then again, I can't comment on the secret ending or the "Iris" achievement since I haven't beat the game yet. I just got to floor 7 and am at 23 hours on Hard. So far, from what I have read, the "Iris" achievement seems like something only people with specific knowledge of certain instances would know what to do, whereas the "general public" has no clue. However, I haven't gotten to "that part" yet so I don't know firsthand.

[setzway]

Okay so I just got to floor 7 and got the Extract item. I saw the 0s and 1s so I immediately thought of the Matrix and Binary...So I went online and decoded the Binary since I don't know how myself. Got the whole "thing", then typed it in a search engine, got the whole genome/cancer thing....and nothing. Couldn't figure out what to do next. Thought of the genomes and the name of the game...that lead me to thinking it was "me". So I knew "I" had to do something. Saw the "think outside the game" hint and that got me think about "stuff". So I finally figured it out soon after that. Took me about 15 minutes to fully process it.

I must say it was kinda a neat thing you had to do. On the other hand....I hate ARG stuff.

[Azure Flash]

On the other hand... I hate ARG stuff.

I'm glad I'm not alone...

On the topic of achievements: to me, an achievement is or should be a measure of how much fun you've extracted out of the game as well as a guide to playing the game in a different way, seeing it in a different light. An achievement should NOT be some kind of behaviorist action-reward mechanism.

When I look at my achievements, it tells me "here's what you've got out of the game so far, but hey, look, you could look at the game in a different way and try to forget about the usual goal and completely nail this aspect of it. Try doing this achievement!" And the achievement, when done right, sets you on a path of discovery, experimentation and perfection as you try to reach this new alternate goal. Getting the achievement is tough, but you know how to get there (or you should, usually, ideally...) and you have fun getting to that point. You learn to enjoy and master the game in another way.

There isn't a 100% clear guideline I could formulate on what's a good kind of achievement and what's a bad one. Sometimes it's okay to set an achievement to "collect all of this" or "reach this level", other times it's a drag. Depends on the game.

For this game, if I would suggest achievements to add, one thing I'd add is achievements to encourage trying harder difficulties ("beat a floor 7 opponent on spasmodic") or time trials ("beat opponent x in less than n seconds"), or maybe one to encourage trying every spell at least once ("have cast all spells at least once"). I'm sure you could think of a few more.

I don't think the Iris achievement is totally wrong, but I guess you didn't expect that reaction from people trying very hard to get it. I think it makes sense, though. When there's an achievement I don't have or can't get, I wonder "what am I missing? What am I doing wrong? How do I do this better?" In this case, there's no obvious way to figure that out unless you have a lucky guess or fish the forums for hints.

[twistedhalo5]

I wish that guy would never have posted the solution to this, I feel ♥♥♥♥ing terrible for getting Iris the non-legit way. I have to admit though I have never even heard of an "ARG" before now, and didn't find out what an ARG entails until after I got the achievement. I've gotta say, I feel sad, and I feel robbed of an extra experience and a good puzzle (adventure/puzzle game fan), god damn it.

Regardless of that, the game is very very good, and I had tons of fun playing through the first time, just wish I could have gotten Iris legit.

[SSoundscape]

I wish that guy would never have posted the solution to this, I feel ♥♥♥♥ing terrible for getting Iris the non-legit way. I have to admit though I have never even heard of an "ARG" before now, and didn't find out what an ARG entails until after I got the achievement. I've gotta say, I feel sad, and I feel robbed of an extra experience and a good puzzle (adventure/puzzle game fan), god damn it.

Regardless of that, the game is very very good, and I had tons of fun playing through the first time, just wish I could have gotten Iris legit.

Well, you should have taken caution when reading messages here.


Especially mine ;3

[ajs410]

To me, achievements are also a way to entice users to play alternate game modes. For instance, in Left 4 Dead 2, nobody plays the Scavenge game mode, except to get the achievements. And then maybe some people end up liking the game mode after actually giving it a shot.

And then there's the completionist who wants to get everything. This *is* an RPG.

By the way, Azure, I'll give you another very weak hint. When you said you googled /tcag, you were so close, and yet so far away.

[MithranArkanere]

I use achievements as a way to remember the things I've done in the game, and what's left to do.

I prefer 'historical' and 'feat' achievements that commemorate things you've done for the first time or that were hard to do rather than weird ones that require several variables out of your control to happen, like many TF2 achievements.

In this way, all achievements in Sequence are 'historial' and 'feat' achievements.

[thompaine]

I'll give a moderate hint for the middle step, since that seems to be the one most people are having trouble with:

Don't think about what the four letters mean. They are simply a code.

[setzway]

Stop giving hints! Let them figure it out themselves!

Well I guess that would be a little harsh. I guess I'll give a hint too since I had played this on the Xbox before getting for the PC...

If you are on the Xbox, you will need to use your PC to fully complete it.

[Stadler]

ITT: Overthinking.

Btw, about achievements: They should be a way to extend the life-time of a game. The problem is: The industry - the same industry that fills our games with pointless scripted events - use them as a "progress tracker", giving a trophy for every single event in the game. Kill a boss - trophy! I mean, come on, I would to that already because I want to beat the f***ing game, I don't need another incentive to do that.

A trophy for finishing the game is cool, grabing some secret gear too, but they just do it in such an exaggerate manner.

A perfect way to do trophies/achievements (I'm sorry, I've been mindlessly using "Trophy" so far - kinda used to the term), for me, is to reward the player for doing what we did in the past: exploring the game beyond the "main quest". An example: In Half-Life 2, there's that part where you get yourself in a little car and the road is blocked by a energy barrier and something, and to drop it you gotta do some stuff. The thing is: It is possible to grab items around the map with the Gravity Gun and build a ramp that'll make it possible for you to go over the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ed barrier. Now THAT'S thinking outside the box and good enough to be rewarded with an achievement.

But imho, Sequence's achieves are top-notch.

[Falk]

I've always seen the herp-derp-would-have-done-it-regardless trophies as benchmarks and in conjunction with sites that gather/crunch statistics, a good feedback tool for game pacing. Granted, any game with online connectivity should already do this outside of the achievement system, but I still find it cool to be able to see stuff like that as part of the public.

[Stadler]

Well it`s not that boring as long as it does not kill the "immersiveness" of the game.

Let's say you're playing, I don't know, Shadow of the Colossus. And then you kill a colossi and start to think about why you did it, what's the point, you think about Life, The Universe and Everything, you see yourself in the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ed game, and then...plimp! Achievement unlocked.

Come the ♥♥♥♥ on.

[Woodeath]

Hi guy !
I read all the thread and i am so stuck: Here is what i understood :

SPOILER

In an item you can see a binarie code. Translate it and you discover /tcga. The / means root. Tcga is a center for the cancer.
Sooooooo cancer is the big part of the challenge. ( you unlock malicious cancer ) . But i read something on this thread. Press the letters in cancer and press "," but don't work. So someone can give me a hint

Edit : When i press all the key in azerty, that make a bip :s , qwerty , it's the same.

I am french and i am on a azerty keyboard. Maybe that don't works in azerty and i must pass in qwerty ?

[Tremir]

the post that says press the letters for "cancer" and "," is actually wrong.

I don't think that the alternate keyboard layout will change things, if you have the right answer.

[Woodeath]

So i should think that it's another word.... mmmmh

It's about tcga , one of the word IN tcga or ABOUT tcga

Thx for your help , this thing makes me crazy :s !

[IridiumStudios]

So, this guy wanted to post this in this thread, but was unable to, so he E-mailed it to me instead.

This achievement apparently makes people REALLY angry.


For all of you on this forum who have figured it out and not told anyone because you think thats cool, you are dumb ****ing idiots and you deserve to die.
And as far as i am concerned, I am finished with iridium studios games for ever cuz Mr. Jason Wishnov thinks his consumers are stupid ****ing geeky ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ who like to solve stupid riddles instead of enjoy playing good game. Well mister dual diploma ***ing a**hole, go jerk on some binary codes and die from heart attack! You have crated a good game and ruined it with some geeky student hacking nonsense bull**** achievement!

Wow.

[SSoundscape]

So, this guy wanted to post this in this thread, but was unable to, so he E-mailed it to me instead.

This achievement apparently makes people REALLY angry.



Wow.

People are irrational, Jason. Just let it be and let him get angry.

[Woodeath]

So, this guy wanted to post this in this thread, but was unable to, so he E-mailed it to me instead.

This achievement apparently makes people REALLY angry.



Wow.

The people are mad :s it's a fact. Try to understand makes them crazy and for some people just more intelligent. :D

Well well come back at my problem :s

The word isn't cancer. So, It's about tcga , one of the word IN tcga or ABOUT tcga

Plz ? :D

[IridiumStudios]

The people are mad :s it's a fact. Try to understand makes them crazy and for some people just more intelligent. :D

Well well come back at my problem :s

The word isn't cancer. So, It's about tcga , one of the word IN tcga or ABOUT tcga

Plz ? :D
Just wanna say, It's /tcag, not /tcga.

[Woodeath]

yes , i know that :s I just keep to write it too quickly. I already see the different website at this subject. ( I totatlly agree that the search is different and not the same link :s )
But i am blocking by the way like before. My question :
It's about /tcag or in /tcag , because it's must be a word to write... ?

thx for reply. I just want to sucess. FOr the moment, ot's the biggest challenge of my life lol :D

[SSoundscape]

yes , i know that :s I just keep to write it too quickly. I already see the different website at this subject. ( I totatlly agree that the search is different and not the same link :s )
But i am blocking by the way like before. My question :
It's about /tcag or in /tcag , because it's must be a word to write... ?

thx for reply. I just want to sucess. FOr the moment, ot's the biggest challenge of my life lol :D

I figured this out in five seconds. How can you kids go about saying this is your life's biggest challenge?

[Stadler]

I figured this out in five seconds. How can you kids go about saying this is your life's biggest challenge?


Aw come on, by reading your posts you've made it pretty clear by now - you are a superior being!

[Woodeath]

I figured this out in five seconds. How can you kids go about saying this is your life's biggest challenge?

Well , we aren't you . We try and fail like you sometimes can. I am blocking , i am asking help. Just that ! So if someone has a tips for me or a hint ? a clue ?

This link explain what is the tcag: SPOIL (http://www.tcag.ca/)
Now i don't know what to search , just the root of something ?

[IridiumStudios]

That website has nothing to do with the achievement, Woodeath.

[Stadler]

That website don't. That one. Others, perhaps.

[Woodeath]

But the meaning of **** yes ?

tcag

Edit: see too late the last post ( new page :s )
other who has link in this website or something else ? Because tcag has a lot of meaning

[SSoundscape]

I first found this amusing. Now I find this really, really sad :I

[Woodeath]

Well me too, but i want to success it ! >>

[IridiumStudios]

Don't be mean, Soundscape. I doubt English is a first language here, and some people have very little experience with ARG-type content.

[Woodeath]

Don't be mean, Soundscape. I doubt English is a first language here, and some people have very little experience with ARG-type content.

Like me XD , my first experience and my first language is french :D. And i am seriously lost :D

[Woodeath]

Big research spoil
The list of all the websites about tcag on the google:

My research SPOIL (http://www.google.fr/#sclient=psy-ab&hl=fr&site=&source=hp&q=%2Ftcag&pbx=1&oq=%2Ftcag&aq=f&aqi=g1g-s1g1&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=1186l1472l0l1569l2l2l0l0l0l0l78l123l2l2l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=36402187e50b0901&biw=1440&bih=734)

Théâtre de Carouge - Atelier de Genève
------> SPOIL (www.tcag.ch/)
--------------> It's about a french theater

Centre for Applied Genomics
------> SPOIL (http://www.tcag.ca/)
--------------> Center of research on the DNA
--------------------> Not this one but put it :D
Wikipedia link
------> SPOIL (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_the_Advancement_of_Genomics)
--------------> A wiki

The Tulare County Association of Governments
------> SPOIL (http://www.tularecog.org/)
--------------> Logistic service

The Center for Association Growth
------> SPOIL (http://www.tcag.com/)
--------------> The Center for Association Growth ( well not too hard to understand.


One of this is the good one for finding the legendary word to press ? :D

[SSoundscape]

Big research spoil
The list of all the websites about tcag on the google:

My research SPOIL (http://www.google.fr/#sclient=psy-ab&hl=fr&site=&source=hp&q=%2Ftcag&pbx=1&oq=%2Ftcag&aq=f&aqi=g1g-s1g1&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=1186l1472l0l1569l2l2l0l0l0l0l78l123l2l2l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=36402187e50b0901&biw=1440&bih=734)

Théâtre de Carouge - Atelier de Genève
------> SPOIL (www.tcag.ch/)
--------------> It's about a french theater

Centre for Applied Genomics
------> SPOIL (http://www.tcag.ca/)
--------------> Center of research on the DNA
--------------------> Not this one but put it :D
Wikipedia link
------> SPOIL (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_the_Advancement_of_Genomics)
--------------> A wiki

The Tulare County Association of Governments
------> SPOIL (http://www.tularecog.org/)
--------------> Logistic service

The Center for Association Growth
------> SPOIL (http://www.tcag.com/)
--------------> The Center for Association Growth ( well not too hard to understand.


One of this is the good one for finding the legendary word to press ? :D





...



I'm not sure how to put this in a kind way anymore. I really can't express kind words to say how off track you are.



Hint: Don't use google.

[Woodeath]

Soo i forget search browser ? :s lol >> pretty sad. I was lost in , more now without :s ! I will search in my mind. I take back all that i know

Loot extract. Translate the binary code. Found /tcag. / means root ( the core of ) [Linux]. I don't know the real meaning of tcag. The answer is out of the game... ><

About this last archievement: Understand who controls the fate.... Who is controll all the organisation ?

Some other points:
MithranArkanere said "I even looked at the store page before, but it didn't occur to me. Probably because I had the "Display Steam URL address bar when available" setting disabled." ( Page 3 )

So i make this setting ON. I can't see the URL on the store page....

[Stadler]

Soo i forget search browser ? :s lol >> pretty sad. I was lost in , more now without :s ! I will search in my mind. I take back all that i know

Loot extract. Translate the binary code. Found /tcag. / means root ( the core of ) [Linux]. I don't know the real meaning of tcag. The answer is out of the game... ><

About this last archievement: Understand who controls the fate.... Who is controll all the organisation ?

You must use what you found in something outside of the game, but still related to the game. And yes, you'll do that in a browser. Can't you think of anything?

Btw, I bet that's your face right now: :o

[Woodeath]

Btw, I bet that's your face right now: :o

Do you spy me ???????? XD

I see that too: Open Steam -> Go to Details of the game -> Visit store page for the game -> Next step here -> Some pasting here -> Some reading -> Launch game -> Profit

Well the part that i must use is this tcag ..... i think ....
But i am blocking at Next step here XD. My URL page is:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/200910/
I think i should be something in this ? right ?
( just like that , what mean pasting in english >< ? )

[Stadler]

According to Google Translate, the verb "paste" is "coller" in french.

Also, you are in the right track. The Steam page is indeed related to the game, but that's not the correct page. Is that the only website related to the game you can find?

Keep trying.

[Woodeath]

There comes a gunslinger hein ? That was that ? I turn around for 1 Weeks ? Rofl , i am feeling so stupid and so happy in the same time. Thx everyone , you help me a lot and taking time to explain me that was incredible :D:D Thx everyone. Thx you !

Question : I change my spoiler for the next people ( less easy --> change in hint ) or ... i let them ?


Little tip :D
And just like that, If you don't have a qwerty keyboard and have an azerty like me, Press Shift+ALT ( you pass your keyboard in qwerty ) and look this link :D
QWERTY (http://www.google.fr/imgres?imgurl=http://obligement.free.fr/gfx/clavier_qwerty_portable.jpg&imgrefurl=http://obligement.free.fr/articles/utilisationclavier.php&h=333&w=640&sz=39&tbnid=Umw6JFPclgaskM:&tbnh=63&tbnw=122&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dqwerty%2Bclavier%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3 Du&zoom=1&q=qwerty+clavier&docid=ep9AVmAUSU0SkM&sa=X&ei=rd3CTuGAI4uO4gTHko2CDQ&ved=0CEsQ9QEwAg&dur=182)

[Stadler]

Leave your posts, they'll serve as a tip.

Glad you could make it! Good job!

[Woodeath]

Leave your posts, they'll serve as a tip.

Glad you could make it! Good job!

Thx for all.

And a word for the IridiumStudios. Great idea for this game :D and a really good soundtrack ( discover ronald jenkins and i fall in love :D )

A rock version of stay crunchy :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fMFt_QpQDo

[ToadKing21]

Even after reading all of these posts, I have no bloody clue what I'm supposed to do :o

I tried mashing those letters, into the weapons gear page, no luck, I can't find anything to input anywhere on steam browser.

So. Frustrating.

(No experience with ARGs before, in case you're wondering)

Any hints?

[Stadler]

It doesn't have to be the Steam Browser.

[ToadKing21]

So just to be clear, there is both something to be typed into a browser and some form of button mashing to be done in the game?

EDIT: I just figured it out. Wow. I feel like a stupid sack of ♥♥♥♥ now.

[Woodeath]

but you got it , good job :D

[Eisenzange]

Thank you for this great Achievement. :)
Took me only a few seconds.

http://www.deathball.net/notpron/ anyone? ;)

[SSoundscape]

Thank you for this great Achievement. :)
Took me only a few seconds.

http://www.deathball.net/notpron/ anyone? ;)


Oh come on. It took them an age and a half to figure this one out. How do you expect them to beat notpron?

[Taco_Human]

I'm feeling pretty derp right now because of this achievement. Am I typing in /tcag into the address bar when I'm at the store page for sequence? That's not doing anything, don't know what or where else to type that poopie in.

[SSoundscape]

I'm feeling pretty derp right now because of this achievement. Am I typing in /tcag into the address bar when I'm at the store page for sequence? That's not doing anything, don't know what or where else to type that poopie in.

Not the store page. It has nothing to do with Steam.

[BoxingCat]

I am hoping that someone can help me out with this achievement.

(Spoilers?)
After spending 20+ hours on this achievement I finally asked my friend how he got it. He said that he simply held down a bunch of keys and the weapon appeared in his inventory. I tried this and but the screen kept shifting to the armor inventory. I tried rebinding the keys and still nothing happened.

If someone could please help me out I would appreciate it. After putting so much time into this I'm at the point where I don't even care about getting the achievement anymore so much as I want to see how this works.

Thanks in advance :)

[Taco_Human]

I am hoping that someone can help me out with this achievement.

(Spoilers?)
If someone could please help me out I would appreciate it. After putting so much time into this I'm at the point where I don't even care about getting the achievement anymore so much as I want to see how this works.

Thanks in advance :)

Haha wow, I just did this and it worked. I would have never guessed.

[BoxingCat]

Man, am I the only one who can't get this to work?

I feel like I am slowly going insane. . .

[SSoundscape]

The keyboard forumula changed from that.

[IridiumStudios]

Just FYI, I'm editing posts a bit to prevent any overt spoilers.

[DaSkruff]

So, this guy wanted to post this in this thread, but was unable to, so he E-mailed it to me instead.

This achievement apparently makes people REALLY angry.



Wow.

So, in general reply to most of the stuff on this thread:

I am a console gamer at heart; consequently what achievements have come to mean to me (against my will) is that from the developer's standpoint that achievements are a list of all the things you should do to 'fully' enjoy the game. Relative term obviously here.

That being said, as I have no programming knowledge, nor prior knowledge of ARGs before perusing this post, I have no idea (even with reading a decent chunk of the 'spoilers' in here) where to start or what the hell is even going on. I know nothing of binary (spare they represent 'on' and 'off' respectively), nor do I have any concept of how to even progress after even the spoilers that exist here.

I like to think of myself as generally coherent when it comes to game puzzles; I've been playing since the Myst/King's Quest era, where things were less forgiving then they are in modern day puzzle games.

I put all this out here to say this: I am on the other side of the wall here, similar to the person who had to e-mail poor Jason. We're not all crazy. I see this achievement, and how much work (some) others have put in to get it, but much like the Lost Planet 2 achievement for being the best player in the world in competitive multiplayer, I'm willing to bow my head and admit defeat. I'd like to pretend that it doesn't bug me as much as it does, just seeing that I have 19/20 achievements (once again from the not fully completing the game mentality) but I'm nowhere near going into an explosive rant insulting the people who took the time to go the extra mile.

So, there's my two cents on the topic. Great, original game, hope a sequel is in the works. And respect to those of you who have gotten the last achievement.

[IridiumStudios]

So, in general reply to most of the stuff on this thread:

I am a console gamer at heart; consequently what achievements have come to mean to me (against my will) is that from the developer's standpoint that achievements are a list of all the things you should do to 'fully' enjoy the game. Relative term obviously here.

That being said, as I have no programming knowledge, nor prior knowledge of ARGs before perusing this post, I have no idea (even with reading a decent chunk of the 'spoilers' in here) where to start or what the hell is even going on. I know nothing of binary (spare they represent 'on' and 'off' respectively), nor do I have any concept of how to even progress after even the spoilers that exist here.

I like to think of myself as generally coherent when it comes to game puzzles; I've been playing since the Myst/King's Quest era, where things were less forgiving then they are in modern day puzzle games.

I put all this out here to say this: I am on the other side of the wall here, similar to the person who had to e-mail poor Jason. We're not all crazy. I see this achievement, and how much work (some) others have put in to get it, but much like the Lost Planet 2 achievement for being the best player in the world in competitive multiplayer, I'm willing to bow my head and admit defeat. I'd like to pretend that it doesn't bug me as much as it does, just seeing that I have 19/20 achievements (once again from the not fully completing the game mentality) but I'm nowhere near going into an explosive rant insulting the people who took the time to go the extra mile.

So, there's my two cents on the topic. Great, original game, hope a sequel is in the works. And respect to those of you who have gotten the last achievement.
Yeah, I understand. I commented on this earlier in the thread, but there are different mindsets with regard to what achievements "are", and clearly we are of those differing mindsets. Not that yours is wrong, mind you.

Still, I'm always happy to help educate people!

Everything in a computer, every picture, video, song, and piece of text, is represented in binary...one's and zero's. It's pretty crazy, when you think about it.

But how do those one's and zero's get converted into something meaningful for a human being?

For pictures and videos, it's very complicated, and it depends on the actual format...PNG, JPG, GIF, MPEG, AVI, MP4. But for straight text, it's pretty simple. The 1's and 0's are separated into groups of eight (called "bytes"), and each combination (there are 255 possibilities) converts to a corresponding character. The conversion is something called ASCII, and is held standard on pretty much every computer around the world. The ASCII conversion table can be found here (http://www.asciitable.com/index/asciifull.gif). To save space, they didn't actually list the 1's and 0's, they listed the decimal (read: normal) versions of those numbers. There's a little bit of math involved in translating from binary to decimal, but it's pretty simple. (For instance, 00000001 is 1. 00000010 is 2. 00000011 is 3. And so on.)

From there, well...you're on your own. = D

[DaSkruff]

Yeah, I understand. I commented on this earlier in the thread, but there are different mindsets with regard to what achievements "are", and clearly we are of those differing mindsets. Not that yours is wrong, mind you.

Still, I'm always happy to help educate people!

Everything in a computer, every picture, video, song, and piece of text, is represented in binary...one's and zero's. It's pretty crazy, when you think about it.

But how do those one's and zero's get converted into something meaningful for a human being?

For pictures and videos, it's very complicated, and it depends on the actual format...PNG, JPG, GIF, MPEG, AVI, MP4. But for straight text, it's pretty simple. The 1's and 0's are separated into groups of eight (called "bytes"), and each combination (there are 255 possibilities) converts to a corresponding character. The conversion is something called ASCII, and is held standard on pretty much every computer around the world. The ASCII conversion table can be found here (http://www.asciitable.com/index/asciifull.gif). To save space, they didn't actually list the 1's and 0's, they listed the decimal (read: normal) versions of those numbers. There's a little bit of math involved in translating from binary to decimal, but it's pretty simple. (For instance, 00000001 is 1. 00000010 is 2. 00000011 is 3. And so on.)

From there, well...you're on your own. = D

Wow.

...I'm torn with how I feel on this, now I that I have it.

On one hand, I can appreciate the ARG angle of it; random people collaborating on a riddle that someone might not think of the solution on their own.

But on the other hand... its open-endedness? From the description of the achievement, I would have never thought to try the first step. (Vague, because I don't know how to mark things as spoilers in my own tag. o.o) Ever. I just thought of it as a clever description, as most things have in the game. So even without Iridium's initial post to start there, I don't know how anyone but the most die-hard try-everything folks would have figured that out.

Secondly, I can't tell you how long I spent perusing through this site: http://www.tcag.ca/index.html because I knew it required external interactions (First option brought up when googled). I even thought I was more correct when using their search engine, searching for the in-game reward only brought up a single post on their site; figured it was a fake site created for the purpose of this riddle. (Now I've saved some other people a few hours)

The problem is logic is a tool, not a method. Everything people are thinking to try makes logical sense, it's just not the single strain of logic that you actually need to solve the puzzle. I think Azure Flash's post on page 6 does a brilliant and perfect job of explaining this.

In the end, this was a ridiculous amount simpler than I was (and others were) making it, but I think that's always going to be the consequence of a riddle whose boundaries are 'the internet.'

Out of curiosity though, why is the reward not as good as my new favorite kind of bears? And as a side note, even after getting to the right place, the input didn't work for me, several times. I ended up cycling through all the pages and trying it and then exiting out and re-entering to try again before it took.

[thompaine]

Out of curiosity though, why is the reward not as good as my new favorite kind of bears?

Because you can get this before you can get the bears.

[IridiumStudios]

Because you can get this before you can get the bears.
Yeah, this. It can be obtained as soon as you reach the seventh floor, and if it were too good, it could easily break he difficulty up there.

[DaSkruff]

Yeah, this. It can be obtained as soon as you reach the seventh floor, and if it were too good, it could easily break he difficulty up there.

Makes sense. I was thinking of it from a post-game perspective.

[SweetNothing]

Thank you for this great Achievement. :)
Took me only a few seconds.

http://www.deathball.net/notpron/ anyone? ;)

ZOMG, how did I not know about this until now? Thank you for posting that, I'm having a lot of frustrating fun right now!

[Stadler]

Wow.

...I'm torn with how I feel on this, now I that I have it.

On one hand, I can appreciate the ARG angle of it; random people collaborating on a riddle that someone might not think of the solution on their own.

But on the other hand... its open-endedness? From the description of the achievement, I would have never thought to try the first step. (Vague, because I don't know how to mark things as spoilers in my own tag. o.o) Ever. I just thought of it as a clever description, as most things have in the game. So even without Iridium's initial post to start there, I don't know how anyone but the most die-hard try-everything folks would have figured that out.

Secondly, I can't tell you how long I spent perusing through this site: http://www.tcag.ca/index.html because I knew it required external interactions (First option brought up when googled). I even thought I was more correct when using their search engine, searching for the in-game reward only brought up a single post on their site; figured it was a fake site created for the purpose of this riddle. (Now I've saved some other people a few hours)

The problem is logic is a tool, not a method. Everything people are thinking to try makes logical sense, it's just not the single strain of logic that you actually need to solve the puzzle. I think Azure Flash's post on page 6 does a brilliant and perfect job of explaining this.

In the end, this was a ridiculous amount simpler than I was (and others were) making it, but I think that's always going to be the consequence of a riddle whose boundaries are 'the internet.'

Out of curiosity though, why is the reward not as good as my new favorite kind of bears? And as a side note, even after getting to the right place, the input didn't work for me, several times. I ended up cycling through all the pages and trying it and then exiting out and re-entering to try again before it took.

My post will be kinda "spoilerish": I have to agree that the Achievement's title and description aren't helpful at all. I do not remember how the heck I found the /tcag stuff, probably just casually reading the descriptions of stuff (since they're all fun, otherwise I would've definitely passed by it), but when I did, I also spent tons of time on http://www.tcag.ca/index.html. Since the description is "Find the name of she who controls fate", I scavenged the website on the looks for something called Fate. A Fate Project, perphaps, since fancy names like that totally suits the activity of the company from that website.

The thing is: I found something like it. The project was not called Fate, but the search led me to a project. My next step was try to search for the name of the director of the god-forsaken project - which I found. I staggered on thinking "hey, where in heavens am I supposed to type it?"

The next step was conceive that I was waaay overthinking everything, to take a lot of steps back, to solve everything in a minute and to conclude that I'm actually stupid.

Long story short, the achievement description and title are not helpful indeed.

[SameOldGB]

The description of the achievement may actually help with the ARG, at least for me it did.
I mean, who actually controls the fate of everyone in the whole game? Once you figure that out, you just go there and insert that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ed code!

[chiliztri]

Sooo, I'm having trouble actually unlocking the achievement.

I figured out the ARG. I'm following the instructions from that...place. But, when I do it nothing happens. I'm 100% sure I'm doing it right.

Not sure if I've just broken my game somehow, or if it's glitched. It's not a big deal, as it's just an achievement. I'm happy I figured it out, it was a nice touch.

[VinoOliveGarden]

Hey, just wanted to pop in this thread to say this achievement is cool, Iridium Studios have made a unique and fantastic game, and that Ssoundscape is a complete tool.

Cheers!

[Stadler]

Hey, just wanted to pop in this thread to say this achievement is cool, Iridium Studios have made a unique and fantastic game, and that Ssoundscape is a complete tool.

Cheers!

Here, have some reputation.

[setzway]

Sooo, I'm having trouble actually unlocking the achievement.

I figured out the ARG. I'm following the instructions from that...place. But, when I do it nothing happens. I'm 100% sure I'm doing it right.

Not sure if I've just broken my game somehow, or if it's glitched. It's not a big deal, as it's just an achievement. I'm happy I figured it out, it was a nice touch.

Have you tried pressing it multiple times in the place you have to? Personally it took me 3-5 presses before it registered, it could also be an issue with your keyboard/keys.

[chiliztri]

Have you tried pressing it multiple times in the place you have to? Personally it took me 3-5 presses before it registered, it could also be an issue with your keyboard/keys.
I tried it multiple times. It must've been my keyboard though, as I switched over to my laptop where I also have the game installed and tried it. Worked the first try!

Strange because my keyboard is in perfect working order. Oh well, whatever it was I found a way around it. Thanks for the suggestion.

[gary18211]

ive read through this thread a million times hoping to figure out how to get this stupid achievement but i still dont have a clue...
ive tried changing my buttons on my controller, ive tried mashing buttons on screens... i understand that "/" means root so i went to the title screen and mashed buttons, i just dont get it... i would love to have this achievement because i love this game but holy crap... someone break it down barney style for me please...


nm, ssoundscape helped me out

[ctekcop]

Hi,
I just want to say tht I solved it right now after some hours of heavy digging.
Well i think this kind thing, this thing called ARG games I never have had heard of before, is really cool:)
It's nice to have tips and hints here and there in the game;) but what I'd like to say as a feedback is that in my opinion the name and the explenation of the achievemente was not right or done properly:confused:
Let me explain: I tought a lot about translating it correctly in my own languge thinking it was some sort of trick or something to discover in the hidden ending......
In the end i really think it would have been a lot bettere describe it as a "secrete achiviement - find clues ingame" labelling it "There comes a gunslinger" (wich in my language means notghin:cool:) insted of "Iris". Just my two cents!
Enjoyed a lot this great game! I can't keep myself from not dreaming about the moment we will all be able to play this game on a true metal footbaord (don't know how the say it in english to differentiate it from the matm sorry) DDR-like! yuppi!

[Woodeath]

ive read through this thread a million times hoping to figure out how to get this stupid achievement but i still dont have a clue...
ive tried changing my buttons on my controller, ive tried mashing buttons on screens... i understand that "/" means root so i went to the title screen and mashed buttons, i just dont get it... i would love to have this achievement because i love this game but holy crap... someone break it down barney style for me please...


nm, ssoundscape helped me out


MASSIVE SPOILER HINT
Well first, change anything on your controller. Second, a clue: 90% of the archievement is on your web browser. Third, what is the root of sequence ?

[HubHikari]

Gonna try tossin' another hint out there, for those of you who couldn't arrive at it before and so have arrived here.

IS' hint about the transcription of binary (text) data to a human-readable form through the ASCII tables is the start. If you're feeling lazy, or are not math-inclined, http://www.nickciske.com/tools/binary.php is your friend.

Next, grab a friend who knows Linux and ask 'em what a backslash signifies - the answer, as Wood said, should be 'root.'

Here's the rub. 'Root' has a twin meaning which is at the core of this whole thing. Your Linux friend can give you one - the top level of a given machine. The second, is the start of a thing. What kicked it off.

Hopefully, this hits that sweet spot of saying juuust enough. Cheers!

[DrHojo123]

Oh god I don't care about the achivement anymore! I just wanna find out what this means. >_< I have /tcag and / means "root" I belive it has something to do with Cancer by the hints. I changed the hotkeys so its c a n e r and , and then I enter cancer, in weapons tab in gear then nothing happens. What am I doing wrong this Achivement will be the death of me.

[HubHikari]

Oh god I don't care about the achivement anymore! I just wanna find out what this means. >_< I have /tcag and / means "root" I belive it has something to do with Cancer by the hints. I changed the hotkeys so its c a n e r and , and then I enter cancer, in weapons tab in gear then nothing happens. What am I doing wrong this Achivement will be the death of me.

Bro, you're overthinking it. Take a step outside the game, take what you've learned and what you know, and apply it. You're almost there.

[bainscalibar]

I thought I had it with the /tcag thing because I thought it was to do with directories. But then I realized you said it works on Xbox aswell. My next idea to search for is the store page on steam. I don't know if that's right or not, so don't flag me or anything if it's correct. :D
Edit: Before anyone complains about my really awkward tagging, this is my first time on a forum ever, so shush.

[IridiumStudios]

Welcome to...uh...forums!

You're not far off, sir...

[setzway]

Speaking of unlocking achievements...What is Test21? Just saw it added to the list recently and it doesn't even have a description. All it is showing is a snowflake. Any ideas?

Besides the obvious "It must be part of an update/patch relating to christmas/holidays."

How to unlock it I wonder....I won't stand for it ruining my 100% completion!

[DrHojo123]

WOOOT! got it i was putting it in the wrong place =3 still don't get what it means tho -_-

[HubHikari]

WOOOT! got it i was putting it in the wrong place =3 still don't get what it means tho -_-

Where you ended up told you to do something, right? Get to it!

Edit: In the event you mean you already got the Achievement and are wondering what the text means...I don't know, either. Maybe we'll know in the future.

[Softspoken]

Started looking today, read clues gradually and got it without looking up the answer completely. I'd just like to say there's something delightful-ly sick about the fact that when you complete this challenge, the game gives you cancer. As a reward.

[MOOMANiBE]

It's actually kind of funny. I read through this topic, idly curious if anyone had outright posted what the string meant. But all the speculation just threw me wildly off track.

They weren't kidding about it being the oldest trick in the book. It's horrifyingly simple, really. No intensive searching, no looking for buttons on pages or cleverly hidden messages in walls of text. Just... apply it.

For what it's worth, I had to plug in an XBOX controller to get the final directions to work. Not sure why. The game doesn't like my keyboard, I guess? o_O

[znokiss]

I've been stuck on that riddle for 2 days now, and I still can't figure it out. I must be stupid.

But anyway, the game's great.

[znokiss]

I found something weird on the developpers website and their search bar... something typed here makes something changing...
I still don't know if I'm on the right tracks.

[znokiss]

Eventually got it. Took me two days, and around 4-5 hours of thinking ! Great by the way it is to simple and yet a bit tricky...

I wonder if anyone noticed that on the developpers website, each time you click on the "search button" in the upper right, something appears in the adress bar, like "x=??&y=!!"
It looks like coordinates...

[Kdos15]

So I figured it out and did what I was told to do but it didn't do anything?

Any help?

Also thank you for making such an awesome game. I had tons of fun with this I hope to see many more great games from you guys!

[IridiumStudios]

Some lower end keyboards have trouble with it? You can try another keyboard, or use a gamepad...

And you're very welcome.:cool:

[n00bicide]

a keyboard needs at least 4 key rollover in order to be able to do this. even the $400 razer "gaming" keyboards only have 2key rollover on all keys except for WASD.

i suggest you change it to just having to TYPE the letters in order, rather than holding them down, because about 50% of people wont have a keyboard that can recognise 4 keypresses at once.

handy way to test how much ghosting your keyboard has: hold down both left shift and right shift, then type "the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog" in notepad. if your keyboard has decent rollover all the letters should appear

[Petersaber]

Typing 0010111101110100011000110110000101100111 took me more time than actually solving this.

I really lol'd when I got... WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT D:

Still pretty cool.

[DiNo29]

A bit off topic, but since IridiumStudios is there ... :p
Secret ending seems to kinda lack closure. Are you planning on continuing that story in a following game? Would be great.

[IridiumStudios]

MWA HA HA HA
Maybe

[Whiplashr]

Some lower end keyboards have trouble with it? You can try another keyboard, or use a gamepad...

And you're very welcome.:cool:

Are you freaking kidding me?

You don't even care that it may not work with some keyboards?

What is this, a joke?

How old are you? You are being such an immature, elitist ♥♥♥ about this.

[HoosTrax]

I have to say, I was badly guilty of "overthinking" this one, and going off on random tangents.

But in response to those people complaining about hardware limitations:
I did it with a Saitek Eclipse II, a basic $40 gaming keyboard. If a "$400 Razer" keyboard isn't able to accomplish this same astonishing feat of keyboard technology engineering, then remind me never to buy a Razer product...

[Yan.42]

I now wasted around 4 hours of my life for trying to get this achievement. Thanks.
Still don't have ANY idea on what to do where in the game, steam, browser or my ♥♥♥♥ing ♥♥♥. And btw: I don't know what "Steam" you guys are using, but I can't change the URL bar there. I read every ♥♥♥♥ing word in this stupid, THIRTEEN pages long thread, and still have no idea what that "Iris" thing wants me to do where.
Would be nice if you give the normal players a hint in the achievement, like "not meant to be received", that we don't waste hours for nothing.

[Stadler]

There's is a LOT of tips on this thread, sir, most of them very helpful. Keep on trying, and ask for help, and I`m sure you`ll get there.

[Yan.42]

You didn't read the little "tips" like "took me 5 hours now", did you? I simply don't want to waste even more HOURS!!! to probably don't even get that achievement.

[Stadler]

That is the point of the achievement. If you don't like what it's proposing, you can simply not get it. I'm sure it'll not have serious consequences on your life, kid.

Or you could just ask for some help here in this thread.

[Yan.42]

So where's the connection between that /tcag thing and the solution of the achievement, whatever it is? Sorry, but YES, I don't understand it. Maybe because it's stupid? I'd rather try to get all these "complete on ultra-suicide without getting hit once"-achievements in other games than to think of any possibility what that /tcag should mean in this game for hours - Like other users did and maybe didn't even get it.

[Stadler]

As we said in the thread, what you found by translating the binaries - or reading the topic - is something you should use in a browser (whatever browser) and in something related to the game.

What kind of stuff do you go to a browser to see when it's related to a game?

Keep trying. You're angry now, but you'll feel good once you have the solution.

[Whiplashr]

I am certain now that I over-reacted about all this stuff yesterday.

I'm very sorry. I have a tendency to do that. I do sincerely apologize.

[Yan.42]

So it's something with adding /tcag in the URL. I already tried that, and nothing happened. Also the Steam page doesn't really work how it's supposed to in a normal browser. It changes the language and logs me out permanently.

[Stadler]

The Steam Store won't help.

[Yan.42]

The achievement one didn't work too.

[Stadler]

You can't get it through Steam.

[Yan.42]

?????

[Stadler]

Perhaps.

[Yan.42]

Google says no. And nothing noted on the Steam Store page.

[Lepinkäinen]

Maybe.

[TehLinkz]

Hhow was /tcag discovered?

[Stadler]

One of the item description was in binaries. You translate that, and voila! /tcag

Btw, the last posts are way too informative. I suggest a purge o' posts!

[Sobol14]

Man, I'm officially a total moron =)
While I was trying to go *you know where* to use *you now what* in *you know what way* I accidentally wandered myself to the wrong destination resulting in screwing my logic and confusing myself =)

P.S. I tried to read about ARG on Wikipedia, but it just confused me even more.

[lestatgss]

i give up.
can someone tell me how to get Iris? ¬¬

[Karishin]

i give up.
can someone tell me how to get Iris? ¬¬
I'm in the same boat, I can't believe the dev would care so much about telling people how to do this.

[IridiumStudios]

There are massive clues in this thread. You pretty much know everything you need to know.

[kekcbl]

The game just amazing but this achiemvment so hard (or i just too stupid).
I'm thinking about 2 days but still dont figure it out, can someone give me small hint please?
I guess that in order to complete achievment i have to type "c a n e r" in one time somewhere in browser and site must be related to the game but i cant understand where.. maybe /tcag hint for this? The Centre for Applied Genomics? still dont work =( i'm in despair, i dont really need achievment, just want to know the meaning of it..
Btw since the Iridium Studios here i say thanky very much for this great game, i'm looking forward for your next project(s) and i hope you will continue the story because characters (and their voice actors, especially Barbara King, Jason Wishnov andJason Hightower) and storyline were simply amazing!:)

[Shakur]

Nice. Now I can go die in a cave. I was thinking of creating a savegame called "/tcag", thinking I would get an option for choosing save slot, but moments later I found my hard, level 31, floor 7, (20/21 achievements) über-savegame gone. Replaced by "easy, level 1, floor 1". ♥♥♥♥ my life. What the hell do I do now? Is there any way to use Steam Cloud to tear apart the fabric of time and space? If you exist God, now would be the time. Yes that's right. Use your saving grace you worthless piece of ...

Unless it's possible to get back to floor 7 again in less than an hour, I think I capitulate.

Great game, but this achievement makes my butt crack expand, and soon the entire universe will be dragged into a black hole.

[IridiumStudios]

I don't think the Steam Cloud will help you here, as it thinks this is what you wanted to do.

However, if you go to steam/userdata/SOMEID/200910/remote, and you have Windows 7, you might be able to use the "Previous Versions" (also known as Shadow Copies) feature, by right-clicking the folder and going to the right tab. You may have some previous versions there you can use.

Or, barring that, I'm sure some nice soul can send you their Floor 7 savefile just so you can unlock the achievement...

[Shakur]

However, if you go to steam/userdata/SOMEID/200910/remote, and you have Windows 7, you might be able to use the "Previous Versions" (also known as Shadow Copies) feature, by right-clicking the folder and going to the right tab. You may have some previous versions there you can use.

I.. This computer.. Has Windows Vista.
No, I'm a boy. No I'm not gay. :rolleyes:

I would be happy if someone could send me a savegame that has reached floor 7. Proof that I've successfully become the first person to fail this much:http://steamcommunity.com/id/ShakurNO/stats/Sequence
As you can see, I've achieved every achievement except for Iris. And then - I deleted my savegame trying to find a way to achieve it. :o
My soul is ripped to pieces. :(


PM me if you have the items necessary for synthesizing my soul.


EDIT: HOLY ♥♥♥♥ I DISCOVERED HOW TO UNLOCK THE ACHIEVEMENT. lol. :)
problem: Easy, floor 1, level 1. FFFFFFFFUUUUUU :o

[Shakur]

If you know what it feels like to delete your own savegame - the misery, the agony, the feeling of "where am I going with my life...", please help me.
PM me a Dropbox sharing link, a .zip file or whatever you want. I'll be grateful as a kid receiving candy. I don't have much to offer, but I can give you reputation on this forum, or coupons on Steam. :)

[IridiumStudios]

Eh, hold on, let me just rustle up a Floor 7 savefile for you. It'll be severely underleveled, but you'll be able to get the achievement.

[Spellbreak]

If you know what it feels like to delete your own savegame - the misery, the agony, the feeling of "where am I going with my life...", please help me.
PM me a Dropbox sharing link, a .zip file or whatever you want. I'll be grateful as a kid receiving candy. I don't have much to offer, but I can give you reputation on this forum, or coupons on Steam. :)

I've sent you a download link in PM. (but maybe i am late... :D )

[Shakur]

Thank you for saving my life Spellbreak :3
+rep

to IridiumStudios:
Thank you for an excellent game. This truly is unique, and stands out from all other RPG games I've played. I don't think I've ever spent 1 € this well. I'd buy your DLC's. Gomakesome :D

[IridiumStudios]

^^

And thanks for helping out, Spellbreak!

[Stoib]

Yeah fun was fun, but this is just getting boring now. Someone want some free rep by Pm'ing me the answer? Cheers.

[Yarusenai]

I really need some help now - its driving me crazy. I think I figured out what to type now, but I just don´t know WHERE. I like to solve riddles and such, but this...is just driving me crazy...

[Sobol14]

I'll pretty much repeat everything that was said on page 13,b ut here it goes:
1) /tcag doesn't mean anything that you'll need to be able to get the achievement.
2) It should be used in a browser.
3) You have to find a place strongly connected to the Sequence to be able to use it.

These are the tips that helped me to solve this riddle.

[Yarusenai]

I'll pretty much repeat everything that was said on page 13,b ut here it goes:
1) /tcag doesn't mean anything that you'll need to be able to get the achievement.
2) It should be used in a browser.
3) You have to find a place strongly connected to the Sequence to be able to use it.

These are the tips that helped me to solve this riddle.

Thats what I was thinking about too. With a Browser, the normal Internet Browser isn´t meant, that´s what I found out. Steam Browser doesn´t work either, thats as far as I am. I have been thinking about this for two Hours now, and the Problem is, im usually good at Things like this. It is a really neat THing IridiumStudious built in, I really like it, but...I think im overseeing something.

[IridiumStudios]

That post is so strongly helpful that I considered altering it, but I won't. That is the absolute limit...that seriously gets you like 90% of the way there.

[Yarusenai]

That post is so strongly helpful that I considered altering it, but I won't. That is the absolute limit...that seriously gets you like 90% of the way there.

Got to think about it again...I bet it is actually rather easy, and I will smash my Face in with a Stone when I will find it out.

That being said, thanks that you are in a steady contact with your Community. And I really really liked your Game. Hope to see more from you, maybe even a second Part? :)

[Lepinkäinen]

With a Browser, the normal Internet Browser isn´t meant

Wrong.

just pointing that out.

[Yarusenai]

OH DAMMIT. I got it. I am so stupid. So, so stupid. Did it now.......

[timanth]

Not the store page. It has nothing to do with Steam.

Freaking thank you. I think this is the first time a Steam hint thread has gotten me MORE offtrack than ontrack until your post. So many people were hinting towards the store page, even inadvertently.

Edit: I LOVE YOUR GAME IRIDIUM AND I WANT ITS THREE-COLORED, FOUR-ARROW BABIES.
But please put more songs in it :(. The lack of music variety, coupled with the fact that we had to play each song SEVERAL times if we wanted to craft all the recipes, kind of made it a grind. And if there's anything you SHOULDN'T take from an RPG, it's the grind aspect. A suggestion for how the system could have been better while retaining RPG aspects: one song per monster, guaranteed drops, but the monsters only drop each item a limited amount of times, forcing you to pick and choose what you want to craft (preferably balancing it so that you'd have to choose between, say, a really good offensive item or a really good defensive item, or maybe an accessory!) Love the game though, hope to see more of it! :)

Further Edit: I'm a fairly large fan of Rhythm Games, so I played through it first on Spasmodic. Loved it; enough to present failure if I didn't play near perfectly, but not impossible enough so that it was frustrating.

[Sobol14]

That post is so strongly helpful that I considered altering it, but I won't. That is the absolute limit...that seriously gets you like 90% of the way there.

I've tried to be as helpful as possible, but not give everything away =)
But I agree, further hints would be just giving the answer.

[bzlai]

Oh Mai GAWWWWD. Wow. Oh man. T-T. I finally got it.

Lol. Btw Iridium Studios. Loved your game. Can't wait for your next one. Commentary during credits was a genius idea aswell. I wish Triple A titles did that so I don't have to stare through 5000 lines for 15 minutes in the darkness.

But yeah, maybe have Ky and Naia off on another adventure in the future/separate universe? ;D

Also, HAPPY NEW YEARS GUYS!

[Aj3067]

From the standpoint of someone who has never done any ARG before, ever, i looked at this thread alone and figured it out. I would not have been able to get it on my own though. Laziness and general ignorance would have prevented it :s. Cheers to everyone still trying, though.

[thebum06]

To anyone still having trouble, remember this:

The information from Extract applied to the Xbox Live Indie release as well. Despite everyone mentioning Steam (for some reason), look somewhere that has always been associated with Sequence since it came out on the Xbox.

EDIT: Also, just want to add that I've unlocked every achievement now! I'll be sure to come back as soon as any more content gets released. Thanks, Iridium, for making one of the most fun and unique games I've ever played!


This hint did it for me. All the other hints just made me more confused and sent me in directions opposite to where I was supposed to go, when it really was so simple.

[no7892142]

So umm...should one get the achievement once the item is obtained?
Or is there still something to be done? Huh.

[Julveyo]

Malignant Cancer +20 Offense

What a joke.
Lighwave Blade only -6 offense, but have much more positive effects on rest stats.
And the Tamahawk Missle Bears is +30.

So, I've spent hours (to figure it out) for the joke? "Deadliest weapon of all."
Phew. Throw away, THB - YES!

P.s. I demand Barbara's sign photo after that!

[floppity]

I still love cake!

And man, I should really quit while I'm ahead.

[SageOfTheWise]

Julveyo- You can unlock it as soon as you get to the seventh floor, so weapons you get later than that are going to be stronger.

floppity- Such a mature response to the whole situation, I wonder what the world would be like if more people were like you. :rolleyes:

[floppity]

Julveyo- You can unlock it as soon as you get to the seventh floor, so weapons you get later than that are going to be stronger.

floppity- Such a mature response to the whole situation, I wonder what the world would be like if more people were like you. :rolleyes:



Thank you.

[semtex43]

beeep


Why would you be so angry son? Having not so pleasant day huh?

[kekcbl]

oh my god i DID IT :D so happy...
want continue if ky and naiya story thought ^_^

[no7892142]

So umm...should one get the achievement once the item is obtained?
Or is there still something to be done? Huh.

Hello? :c

[Godde]

The reward was not worth the frustration.

[Cybolt]

It took a few hints here to get it but I am glad to say that I managed to figure it out and once it hit me, I felt really silly that I didn't notice it sooner.

Sequence has been a lot of fun for someone who does not usually play/is not very good at rhythm games. I loved the game from start to finish and I am looking forward to your next project!

[IridiumStudios]

Hello? :c
Sorry!

There's been a lot of crazy Steam achievement/connection/server issues of late, and that probably caused your achievement to not register.

Go ahead and desynth the item in question, and then redo the...thing, to get the item again. The achievement should pop up.

[DJ Koopa]

Okay, so I finally figured out the achievement and all...cute 'lil puzzle...but..

The achievement "Iris" has the description "Discover the name of she who controls fate" but...I don't get it. How are we supposed to make the logical connection there? Where do you know that the supposed "she" controls fate at all? And the reward? Well...it doesn't make sense either. What does Malignant Cancer have to do with the story at all? Though this might be in part with the confusion that the secret ending gave off as well so...

[IridiumStudios]

I wonder...

...what plans have I, for the future...

(Though I will say, the Malignant Cancer thing has nothing to do with it. That's just the name of the weapon.)

[no7892142]

Sorry!

There's been a lot of crazy Steam achievement/connection/server issues of late, and that probably caused your achievement to not register.

Go ahead and desynth the item in question, and then redo the...thing, to get the item again. The achievement should pop up.

That worked. Thanks. *ruffle*
Now to somehow master that Luminary Scroll..

[DJ Koopa]

I wonder...

...what plans have I, for the future...
Well what the hell are you waiting for then?! Get it done so I can throw more money at you! God!

[Luuk-]

Kinda major spoilers, don't read this if you wanna figure it out yourself!
Isn't this achievement much harder to get on the X360? Well, I know, to press buttons isn't any harder there, but browsing a website is way more easy on a PC then on a Xbox.

[§W-]

Well. I was going to post something, but I don't think Jason would have like that, so instead i'll just post this silly question that poped up in my head after reading the Iris achievement description again.

Who controls fate... of Sequence?

:/ Silly question because it has such an easy answer.

Ahh forget that, how about an actual hint. Let me see if I can help you save some time.

I kinda think the 2nd step is kinda unfair because there is no guidance for it anywhere in the game, or anywhere (but here) for that matter. I just don't want you to waste time looking for something that doesn't exist. I guess the 2nd step just has to be random inspiration or something you get from other hints in this thread.

[ShadeOfLight]

I have it now, but I really screwed myself over looking for it.
I'm not sure if this is coincidence , or if you planned it this way, but I found something that completely and utterly threw me off.
(and I see that it has already been mentioned, though)

When I typed /tcag into Google, the first site to come up was the canadian Center for Applied Genomics. And what was right there on the home page? A link to the page about "DNA Sequencing/Synthesis

I don't blame myself one bit for going in the wrong direction after that ;)
I found it based on some hints here though, really was much simpler than I made it out to be. Which was kind of the point, I guess.

[Exsol]

Got it!!

Just read this thread and figured out ))

Hints remake for lazy ones:

1) /tcag is the key
2) Browser involved
3) You'll never know when gunslinger come out :)

[Stadler]

Kinda major spoilers, don't read this if you wanna figure it out yourself!
Isn't this achievement much harder to get on the X360? Well, I know, to press buttons isn't any harder there, but browsing a website is way more easy on a PC then on a Xbox.
Well people do presume that a person who owns an Xbox owns a PC nowadays.

[Russha]

So, this guy wanted to post this in this thread, but was unable to, so he E-mailed it to me instead.

This achievement apparently makes people REALLY angry.



Wow.

While I won't go to the extremes of the person in question, I will voice that I am more furstrated than anything at this particular achievement.
I enjoyed the game immensely; however. If I wanted to solve riddles and puzzles, I would play those type of games. I picked up a rhythm game with an excellent story, and set out on my quest to achieve all the achievements I could get. I have all of them except this one, and god dammit, this isn't fun, this isn't challenging. It's making me pull my hair out and bury my head in my hands.
You keep hiding the solution to this puzzle, and all I want to do is get it out of the way and move on.
'It's not that hard'? I'm not a puzzle person, of course it's difficult to me!

[ParrotParrot]

I am unable to get this achievement because the game won't recognize my keypress. Not even if those are sent by programs like autohotkey or autoit. I've completed the entire game, unlocked secret boss, decrypted the mssage, found the /tcag, and even when told what to do nothing happened, i've tried this multiple times and now i give up, because it took me one and half hour already. Was fun to pick it up again and play a couple of more songs to get another exract anyway.

[IridiumStudios]

I am unable to get this achievement because the game won't recognize my keypress. Not even if those are sent by programs like autohotkey or autoit. I've completed the entire game, unlocked secret boss, decrypted the mssage, found the /tcag, and even when told what to do nothing happened, i've tried this multiple times and now i give up, because it took me one and half hour already. Was fun to pick it up again and play a couple of more songs to get another exract anyway.
Almost all modern keyboards have 4-key rollover, but if you don't, it won't be able to be activated. You can try a different keyboard or an Xbox 360 controller. = (

[Greo]

This achievement took me a bit of work to figure out, but that last comment helped me figure it out. :)

I had a little technical difficulty with the achievement, it shouldn't be spoilerific, but just in case. ;)
I had to hook up my xbox controller to my PC in order to actually complete it because it wouldn't work with my keyboard. :/ PC went beep. :P

i figure it out too, but i got the same problem, could anyone could tell me how deepflame manage to do that ?

[flsobral]

I bought this game during the xmas steam sale and just finished it yesterday night.
It was a very fun experience, with a surprising ending, a more surprising secret floor and an even more surprising secret ending.
The only problem was the Iris achievement, which I was completely clueless.

I went to Gamefaqs found the answer on the board and got the achievement, but that wasn't quite satisfying. So I decided to search google and stumbled upon this thread. (This is my first time posting to a steam forum btw)

After reading 3 or 4 pages I was able to finally understand this achievement. And I must say that was fun.

I didn't figure it out it myself and I wasn't hitting arrow keys while listening to music to do it, but still, that was fun.

So thank you Jason and Iridium for all your work on this great game, specially the hidden stuff and this last achievement.

[Demosthenes928]

Hmmm... I gotta say, I would have figured this out in under 30 minutes if most of the people in this thread hadn't kept saying stuff about steam and the steam url. I actually thought up the way to solve this riddle after reading the first few pages but discredited the idea because people kept referring to steam, the store page, etc like they were of utmost importance.

As people have mentioned (somewhat) the description for the Iris achievement only really makes sense after you get the achievement.