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bes
11-02-2011, 09:22 AM
As the title says, this is sadly yet another game in a growing list ..that don't work with a Bulldozer CPU...

I get an INSTANT lock up,then blue screen of death, THEN a computer restart as soon as I try to play this game..

The other two games that wont work are Deus EX:HR and Shogun:TW ..

Error message I get every time I try to start one of those games::

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A fatal hardware error has occurred.

Reported by component: Processor Core
Error Source: Machine Check Exception
Error Type: Bus/Interconnect Error
Processor ID: 0

The details view of this entry contains further information.
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DragonLight
11-02-2011, 10:27 AM
Should've got an Intel. Having the latest and greatest doesn't help when you can't even play the game... ;)

chipset35
11-02-2011, 12:31 PM
I learned 18 years ago that compatability is more important than performance.
Never be an early adopter....

Schwinghammer
11-02-2011, 02:21 PM
AMD/ATI has always had problems... all the way back to when my ole' AMD-K5 was giving me grief.

Nvidia + Intel ever since and always happy. ^______^

thorvaaldr
11-02-2011, 03:57 PM
So it sounds to me like the message is "Don't buy a Bulldozer."

Sorry, buddy.

I learned 18 years ago that compatability is more important than performance.
Never be an early adopter....

True dat.

bes
11-02-2011, 04:18 PM
So it sounds to me like the message is "Don't buy a Bulldozer."

Sorry, buddy.



Actually the message is that devs need to start coding properly to use the Bulldozer CPU and also AMD needs add the Bios update like they said there were gonna do..


I haven't had any problems with AMD hardware ...nothing really serious that prevented me from doing anything ..

THIS Bulldozer problem needs to be fixed by the devs and by AMD...

So far its just 3 games that crash like this ...the rest seem to run fine, I have over 200 games ...I been testing them..

The extreme multi-tasking capability of the CPU was what I was going for anyway, earlier today I was encoding 3 videos in HD 1080P, WHILE playing BFBC2 without the computer glitching ..that is way more than my 1090T could do..

alexmaia_br
11-02-2011, 04:27 PM
As the title says, this is sadly yet another game in a growing list ..that don't work with a Bulldozer CPU...

I get an INSTANT lock up,then blue screen of death, THEN a computer restart as soon as I try to play this game..

The other two games that wont work are Deus EX:HR and Shogun:TW ..



Ok, might be something particular to your system, no?
Anyways, I just bought the game and it will take some time before I play it (download etc)

You may want to come back and check if it worked for me, I'll report here with full system specs. (fx-8150 here)

Pax,
Alex.

alexmaia_br
11-02-2011, 09:13 PM
Confirmed. Does not work with bulldozer. got BSOD.

specs:
fx 8150 (stock), msi ati hd 6990 (stock speeds), mobo asrock fatal1ty 990fx professional am3+, hd ssd 120g, psu corsair ax1200w, 16g g.skill @ 1600mhz.

so, there... very happy right now =(

Davidgemx
11-02-2011, 09:53 PM
Guys I do not have Lord of the Rings yet but I did also just buy the 6 core AMD FX 6110 Bulldozer CPU. Before I had the AMD quad Core Phenom II 940 amd could run all of my games fine.

Now Warhammer 40K Space marines runs but at 50% of my original frame rates or worse. Darw of War 2 Retribution will run the initial animation but at an extremely horrible rate and if I get past the animation to start a game it will look like its halfway loading up the game then the game stops loading but does not give any error message it just stops at about 60%.

Dawn of War 2 Coming of Chaos runs fine except now the sound sometimes crackles and pops. My mother board a Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5 with build in Realtek ALC889 HD Audio. I am using the onboard sound becasue it is suppose to be high quality and so far in most games its fine but whats wierd is the games that are having problems so far are suppose to run great under AMD hardware. Here is a link to a web page where other people with the bulldozer setup are talking about similar issues and there are links on that webpage to other hardware sites discussing possible issues with bulldozer. http://scalibq.wordpress.com/2011/10/19/amd-bulldozer-can-it-get-even-worse/

Battle field 3 plays great on the system and there are no sound issues so Im guessing the games may need patches for the new bulldozer system.

Davidgemx
11-02-2011, 09:55 PM
I alss forgot to say Total War Shogun 2 will also not work for me now either.

alexmaia_br
11-03-2011, 04:45 AM
I alss forgot to say Total War Shogun 2 will also not work for me now either.

I've tried few games since bulldozer.

working perfectly: portal 1, call of juarez: cartel, borderlands, l4d2,

not working: grid, portal2, lotr:war north

We'll see what happens in the near future.

If batman doesnt work, will be really annoyed.

chipset35
11-03-2011, 08:22 AM
The harsh reality is that its seems there is a disconnect between AMD/ATI and most game developers. Unlike nvidia and Intel, AMD/ATI issues seem to be widespread and even worse "expected" these days, whereas Intel and nVidia you know its going to work for most if not all.

I have always use Intel processors, but recently ended up with ATI/AMD video cards on my system and my wifes.
No issues with any game at all....yet.

Most of my friends have switched to nVidia from ATI/AMD, but 2 still uses AMD/ATI CPUs. However, they both are getting ready for upgrades of their PCs and already stated they are going Intel.

Like I said, I am using ATI/AMD video cards, but will be going back to nVidia fo rmy next upgrade not because of issues, but to avoid future issues, as that seems to be the trend.

Sorry AMD/ATI, communication is a 2 way street and based on recent releases the issue seems to be on the AMD/ATI end.

alexmaia_br
11-03-2011, 09:47 AM
UPDATE: I sent an email to wb games. Got this answer:

Hey Alex,

A dxdiag should be able to give us enough information to find out what could be occurring with your LOTR.

Please use the steps below to record and send us the information about the current installation of DirectX on the computer. We need this detailed information in order to assist in troubleshooting the issue at hand. No personal information is contained in the report.


Windows Vista and Windows 7

If you are using the modern desktop:
- Click on the Windows icon located by default in the lower left-hand corner of the screen.
- In the "Start Search" field, type in DxDiag.
- Press Enter. This will start the DxDiag utility.
- Once the DirectX Diagnostic Tool appears, click on the Save All Information button at the bottom.
- When asked to where to save the file to, click on the drop-down box next to Save in and select Desktop.
- In File Name box towards the bottom, then name DxDiag.txt should appear. Leave this as is and click on the OK button.
- Click the Exit button to exit the DirectX Diagnostic Tool.
- On the Desktop, there should be a file name DxDiag or DxDiag.txt. If there is no file with this name, please repeat the steps above and make sure to save the file to the Desktop.
- Open this email up and click the reply button.
- Type in your response to any additional questions or information that was requested into the body of the email.
- Click the Attachment button and add the DxDiag.txt from the Desktop.
- Once the attachment has been added, click the Send button to send us this information We will reply to you shortly.



...


I'll keep you guys up to date.

baltar
11-04-2011, 07:43 AM
Actually the message is that devs need to start coding properly to use the Bulldozer CPU and also AMD needs add the Bios update like they said there were gonna do..


I haven't had any problems with AMD hardware ...nothing really serious that prevented me from doing anything ..

THIS Bulldozer problem needs to be fixed by the devs and by AMD...

So far its just 3 games that crash like this ...the rest seem to run fine, I have over 200 games ...I been testing them..

The extreme multi-tasking capability of the CPU was what I was going for anyway, earlier today I was encoding 3 videos in HD 1080P, WHILE playing BFBC2 without the computer glitching ..that is way more than my 1090T could do..

QFT. Deus ex always BSOD on my FX8150. Its a new architecture, this means there will be incompatibilities and issues that need to get ironed out.

From what I have googled, there's sites that blame steam, others that blame the chip. It's a mixture of both a new architecture and the way timings are resolved on the proc.

bes
11-04-2011, 10:57 AM
UPDATE: I sent an email to wb games. Got this answer:

Hey Alex,

A dxdiag should be able to give us enough information to find out what could be occurring with your LOTR.

Please use the steps below to record and send us the information about the current installation of DirectX on the computer. We need this detailed information in order to assist in troubleshooting the issue at hand. No personal information is contained in the report.


Windows Vista and Windows 7

If you are using the modern desktop:
- Click on the Windows icon located by default in the lower left-hand corner of the screen.
- In the "Start Search" field, type in DxDiag.
- Press Enter. This will start the DxDiag utility.
- Once the DirectX Diagnostic Tool appears, click on the Save All Information button at the bottom.
- When asked to where to save the file to, click on the drop-down box next to Save in and select Desktop.
- In File Name box towards the bottom, then name DxDiag.txt should appear. Leave this as is and click on the OK button.
- Click the Exit button to exit the DirectX Diagnostic Tool.
- On the Desktop, there should be a file name DxDiag or DxDiag.txt. If there is no file with this name, please repeat the steps above and make sure to save the file to the Desktop.
- Open this email up and click the reply button.
- Type in your response to any additional questions or information that was requested into the body of the email.
- Click the Attachment button and add the DxDiag.txt from the Desktop.
- Once the attachment has been added, click the Send button to send us this information We will reply to you shortly.



...


I'll keep you guys up to date.

Yeah ..I sent them an email too and they gave me the standard.. "update your drivers, then get back to us if that's not working" ..when the DXDIAG I sent them CLEARLY showed I was already using the most up to date drivers, they even QUOTED the damn DXDIAG...

I get highly annoyed when they don't treat me like I know what im doing and have experience..

Obviously I sent a replay ...with an annoyed tone back ..telling them I want them to fix it so it works with an AMD Bulldozer and to work with AMD to solve the problem so a patch could be released, since this is a coding related problem..since I payed for the game and it should be working on new hardware..and most games work with the Bulldozer without problems..

Taleran
11-04-2011, 12:11 PM
Well there was no reason to buy bulldozer in the first place.

it runs slower, and costs more, then the intel 1155 chips.

games don't take advantage of more then 2 cores (3 / 4 only help with background multitasking, 5+ is overkill)

So in the end you went with a 8 crap cores instead of 4 good ones.

Not to mention ATI cards might be "good", but their not better then Nvidia cards, cost about the same per performance, and ATI's driver support is garbage (Rage anyone?)

And after bulldozer fail, AMD layed off 10% of it's workforce lol. Bottom line. AMD / ATI where gaming is concerned is dead.

Buy Nvidia / Intel next time.

winterforge
11-04-2011, 01:18 PM
Beginning of the end for AMD. Intel is the only way to go now, unless you like gambling.

http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Desktops-and-Notebooks/AMD-to-Cut-10-Percent-of-Workforce-in-200-Million-CostSavings-Push-279027/

bes
11-04-2011, 01:46 PM
Well there was no reason to buy bulldozer in the first place.

it runs slower, and costs more, then the intel 1155 chips.

games don't take advantage of more then 2 cores (3 / 4 only help with background multitasking, 5+ is overkill)

So in the end you went with a 8 crap cores instead of 4 good ones.

Not to mention ATI cards might be "good", but their not better then Nvidia cards, cost about the same per performance, and ATI's driver support is garbage (Rage anyone?)

And after bulldozer fail, AMD layed off 10% of it's workforce lol. Bottom line. AMD / ATI where gaming is concerned is dead.

Buy Nvidia / Intel next time.

Don't try to force Intel on me ... my tests confirm the FX-8150 beats ALL AMD CPU's and most of the Intel CPU's and sites just above or just below the I7-2600K ... MY OWN tests ...not these BS tests from so called "reviewers" ..

So im happy with the CPU AND its extreme multi-tasking capability..

The problems with games and programs have to do with CODING PROBLEMS due to the CPU's architecture ..

Windows 8 gives it a pretty big performance boost over Vista and Win7 in my tests also ..

Anyway back on topic... I have not gotten a message yet from WB about this game yet...maybe they will get a solution..

alexmaia_br
11-04-2011, 07:10 PM
Don't try to force Intel on me ... my tests confirm the FX-8150 beats ALL AMD CPU's and most of the Intel CPU's and sites just above or just below the I7-2600K ... MY OWN tests ...not these BS tests from so called "reviewers" ..

So im happy with the CPU AND its extreme multi-tasking capability..

The problems with games and programs have to do with CODING PROBLEMS due to the CPU's architecture ..

Windows 8 gives it a pretty big performance boost over Vista and Win7 in my tests also ..

Anyway back on topic... I have not gotten a message yet from WB about this game yet...maybe they will get a solution..


Silence from my side too. I actually asked for a refund.
Let's see how it goes. I'd still play the game though.

Oh... and by the way, I like my BD chip, despite all this.

statikregimen
11-04-2011, 10:04 PM
Don't try to force Intel on me ... my tests confirm the FX-8150 beats ALL AMD CPU's and most of the Intel CPU's and sites just above or just below the I7-2600K ... MY OWN tests ...not these BS tests from so called "reviewers" ..

So im happy with the CPU AND its extreme multi-tasking capability..

The problems with games and programs have to do with CODING PROBLEMS due to the CPU's architecture ..

Windows 8 gives it a pretty big performance boost over Vista and Win7 in my tests also ..

Anyway back on topic... I have not gotten a message yet from WB about this game yet...maybe they will get a solution..

Yea, not so much. I own an FX-8120, overclocked to 4.5ghz, and it just barely keeps up with my previous CPU (1100t) at stock, in single/lightly threaded apps. And it's only about 5...maybe 10% faster in heavily multithreaded ones. For gaming, the 1100t is equal, if not better....ok, well better, since it doesn't have the issues with these games. It's an OK cpu, but in hindsight, I'd have rather gone Intel, and as it is right now, I'm probably still gonna when Ivy Bridge comes out. In the mean time, the 1100t is going back in here. Unless you had an old, low clocked (or worse, phenom 1) x4, x3 or x2 before, you're pretty much just talking out of your poohole.

Also, Windows 8 on average, will give about 5% performance gains, and that's only in multi-threaded apps. There's really nothing that can be done about it's crappy per-core performance, which is what is really holding the chip back.

Again: BD is a wash...No amount of "Oh I own one and its waaay better than people say" is going to change that...I own one too, as do many other people (http://www.overclock.net/amd-cpus/1139726-amd-fx-bulldozer-owners-club.html), who all can confirm it is a disappointment.

I can forgive the performance issues, since it's decent when overclocked, but I cannot forgive the bugs. Piledriver had better be a monster performer, or I will be jumping off of the AMD train for the foreseeable future.

EDIT: btw, just so I don't totally come off sounding like a jerk, if you happen to have an ASUS Sabertooth, you can try BIOS version 0705... I do not, so I can't confirm that it solves anything, but it evidently has for one guy (http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1037979734&postcount=188).

dinwitt
11-05-2011, 08:28 PM
EDIT: btw, just so I don't totally come off sounding like a jerk, if you happen to have an ASUS Sabertooth, you can try BIOS version 0705... I do not, so I can't confirm that it solves anything, but it evidently has for one guy (http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1037979734&postcount=188).

I've also heard in a few places that downgrading the BIOS can get the games working again. Sadly for the Crosshair V Formula boards the website says you need the 0813 BIOS for Bulldozer to work, so I can't try it out. It was enough of a pain getting things installed (I was upgrading from a Phenom so I didn't have a CPU to flash the BIOS with) and I don't want to risk going through that again.

I'm also waiting to hear back after sending them a DxDiag file, plus I've got a post on their support forums, so hopefully one of us will hear back soon.

thorvaaldr
11-06-2011, 06:31 PM
Actually the message is that devs need to start coding properly to use the Bulldozer CPU and also AMD needs add the Bios update like they said there were gonna do.

Look, I'm glad you started this topic; I found it informative. I sincerely hope you wind up getting all your games running.

But the message I take away from it is, don't buy a Bulldozer. I don't need the grief.

Renoxzor
11-11-2011, 05:39 PM
From reviews the bulldozer is only good in theory but doesn't perform well on practice at least not with the current software, at all... grab some phenom or intel.

alexmaia_br
11-11-2011, 06:00 PM
update... I gave up, got a refund, bought skyrim.
I'm happy.

Wb has pathetic customer service, btw. After I sent all the info, went through all the trouble, THIS is an acceptable answer?

"Hi,
At this time, there are no additional patches scheduled.

All refunds must be referred to the place of purchase.
"


Screw wb.
Etiquette and respect for customers go a long way.


Steam, on the other hand, was awesome. They just gave me my hard earned $$$ back, no drama.

Renoxzor
11-11-2011, 08:22 PM
The worst part is they blame on devs about poor sales... that's pathetic
I can't get to play the game yet, no official launch for asia...

livinlern
11-17-2011, 04:52 PM
I'm in the same boat with a bulldozer 6100, I also have tried all the standard fixes. Very interested to hear any real solution. I have a support ticket to steam, I'll let you know if I find a fix.

killme2
11-18-2011, 11:14 AM
I've been hearing lots of complain about Bulldozer, I'd stay clear of it until I hear anything better.

bes
11-18-2011, 12:11 PM
I'm in the same boat with a bulldozer 6100, I also have tried all the standard fixes. Very interested to hear any real solution. I have a support ticket to steam, I'll let you know if I find a fix.

Portal 2 wont work for me, same issue this guy is having http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2178085

I also got this response from VALVE support:
" by Support Tech Vince on Mon, 14th Nov 2011 3:28 pm
Hello Brian,

Thank you for taking the time to report this issue.

We are aware of the problem and are investigating the issue further.

For news regarding the latest updates and patches, please check the SteamPowered News page:
http://store.steampowered.com/news/

This question is closed, to reply you need to reopen the question.
"

I AM NOT expecting any response from VALVE over non VALVE games .. like this lord of the rings:war in the north

all the other devs related to the other games that don't work...seem to be ignoring the problem..

THIS is the ONLY solution that I found: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2231337

baltar
11-21-2011, 05:56 AM
There's baby steps, but it's being worked on.

The Crosshair V 9920 bios fixes the BSOD, but the games run in an unplayable framerate. At least they are getting somewhere.

AMD acknowledges the issue with it and posted it here: http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/STEAMGamesonAMDFXplatforms.aspx

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?276698-A-fix-for-Valve-CEG-games-causing-BSOD-on-Bulldozer-issue

From what I read, it's something to do with that CEG DRM in these specific steam games that is not behaving well with Bulldozer. Steam should just patch that garbage out, since all these games have been cracked already and the rest of us with these games in our profile already bought it... What's the point?

Thecodexnecro
11-22-2011, 02:52 PM
AMD/ATI has always had problems... all the way back to when my ole' AMD-K5 was giving me grief.

Nvidia + Intel ever since and always happy. ^______^

Totally agree.

When was AMD last on top of the performance charts? Uh, Athlon 64! lolol.

I remember when they brought out the 6 core CPU. It couldn't beat Intel's quads. Same goes for their 8 core bulldozer. It just fails against the sandybridge quad.

Intel and nVidia - The way it's meant to be played.

EDIT: I eagerly await ivybridge. We shall see true performance.

Renoxzor
11-22-2011, 11:22 PM
True, at least Intel recalled their faulty sandy bridges, AMD seems like doesn't give a ♥♥♥♥ about their faulty garbage trucks.

rmartinezdl
11-23-2011, 07:49 AM
Once devs stop being lazy and code rightly for the new technology that bulldozer brings (and obviously AMD make some fixes) bulldozer is going to kiick i7 asses!

JOINTS
11-24-2011, 11:02 AM
Actually the message is that devs need to start coding properly to use the Bulldozer CPU and also AMD needs add the Bios update like they said there were gonna do..


I haven't had any problems with AMD hardware ...nothing really serious that prevented me from doing anything ..

THIS Bulldozer problem needs to be fixed by the devs and by AMD...

So far its just 3 games that crash like this ...the rest seem to run fine, I have over 200 games ...I been testing them..

The extreme multi-tasking capability of the CPU was what I was going for anyway, earlier today I was encoding 3 videos in HD 1080P, WHILE playing BFBC2 without the computer glitching ..that is way more than my 1090T could do..


The problem here my friend is not the game or developers, it's AMD who didnt send out instructions on how to code for their new CPU. And AMD have a strange way of handling "manycore", they dont have a QPI like Intel do. AMD is so far behind in the world of gaming that I cant see how they are going to catch up to Intel. Intel have monopoly in the performance segment since they came out with the new structure with Core i7, they can set any price they want, at the moment Intel is cheaper when you count performance vs money.

JOINTS
11-24-2011, 11:15 AM
Once devs stop being lazy and code rightly for the new technology that bulldozer brings (and obviously AMD make some fixes) bulldozer is going to kiick i7 asses!

Are you serious?
Why dont you have a look here and come back again after analyzing the results.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sandy-bridge-e-efficiency-core-i7-3960x,3075.html

JOINTS
11-24-2011, 11:31 AM
Don't try to force Intel on me ... my tests confirm the FX-8150 beats ALL AMD CPU's and most of the Intel CPU's and sites just above or just below the I7-2600K ... MY OWN tests ...not these BS tests from so called "reviewers" ..

So im happy with the CPU AND its extreme multi-tasking capability..

The problems with games and programs have to do with CODING PROBLEMS due to the CPU's architecture ..

Windows 8 gives it a pretty big performance boost over Vista and Win7 in my tests also ..

Anyway back on topic... I have not gotten a message yet from WB about this game yet...maybe they will get a solution..


You bought a budget brand, no offense intended, but you get what you pay for.

etrigoth
11-25-2011, 06:06 AM
Serious Sam 3, Duke Nukem Forever, Deus Ex HR, Shogun 2 and now this.

I'm glad I've replaced my Bulldozer with a Phenom II.

etrigoth
11-25-2011, 06:10 AM
Just so you guys know, the problem with the Bulldozer is apparently Steams DRM code, not the games themselves. The only game I've bought recently that works with this core is Skyrim.

etrigoth
11-26-2011, 08:39 AM
If you've got one of these chips and are having problems, please post in my thread here:

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2252411

Valve needs to take action.

Renoxzor
11-28-2011, 06:44 PM
I'm getting tired of finding these posts, go throw away your garbage truck and buy a real intel processor ok?

Face it! AMD sucks at hardware, not only the video cards rarely ever work with new games but now their processors come full of bugs.

ArkSteat
11-29-2011, 10:05 PM
What the Intel-Fans won't tell you is the fact that Bulldozer & Steam game BSOD/Freeze issues are related to a certain type of DRM only in use on certain Steam titles.

Meaning, Valve is as responsible for said issues as AMD is.

There are ways around it to prevent crashes, I'll leave it up to your imagination as to what they are. (It should be obvious, think hard!)

baltar
12-12-2011, 08:08 AM
Just a follow up. Google Crosshair 9921 bios. This bios fixes the problem for crosshair V boards using Bulldozer, and gives the excellent framerate. I put in 10 hours of deus ex so far.

C'estCookz
12-21-2011, 08:02 PM
Should've got an Intel. Having the latest and greatest doesn't help when you can't even play the game... ;)

That could be true, except Bulldozer is far, far from the greatest ;)

Friendliest
12-30-2011, 12:29 AM
Should've got an Intel. Having the latest and greatest doesn't help when you can't even play the game... ;)

Yeah apparently even having ATI stuff doesn't help either.

ZanyCynic
12-30-2011, 05:24 AM
The extreme multi-tasking capability of the CPU was what I was going for anyway, earlier today I was encoding 3 videos in HD 1080P, WHILE playing BFBC2 without the computer glitching

oh man I'd like that. The problem is, whenever I am ready to buy a new computer, neither the data nor the people in the stores give the info that *THAT* is possible with that system.

It was so easy: 386 < 468 < 568 .. + MHz inside the family.

Now you just have no idea if a system is better than the other, at least, if you do not want to spend weeks on research. :(

FladFox
12-30-2011, 10:27 AM
Like many others I was attracted to AMD's 'performance' a decade ago, never fuc*ing again, Intel FTW.

*edit* same goes for ATI, same reasons.

DVFVS
01-04-2012, 02:49 AM
Sorry that there are those that were having trouble - turns out my problems were fixed by the age-old 'verify game cache' within steam, and updating the BIOS on my Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 to the latest bios, looks like a beta version, called "F6f" that I downloaded from their website directly, extracted the executable, and updated through the "@BIOS" program that shipped with the mainboard.

For what it's worth, I've had absolutely no compatibility issues with my 8120, and I'll continue to support AMD and ATI.

It's a competitive CPU for the price point, beats the i5-2500K in some, loses in others, the reverse of course is the i5-2500K loses in some, wins in others, and overall I'd say I spent less than a comparative i5-2500K by between $50-$90 depending on the components.

It's certainly better for me than the 1090T I replaced it with within Windows and all other applications I use.

Without competition, Intel would return to its anti-competitive ways and predatory pricing as we saw in the early 80s.

Flame on :)

Remember; verify local game cache, update BIOS. Worked for me. Not sure if the BIOS did the trick or if the verify game cache did it - I had two damaged files which steam automatically replaced. After that, the game started fine. On my FX-8120 with an Nvidia 250 :)

;)

Dissolutionskey
01-04-2012, 04:59 PM
I don't have a bulldozer processor i have a phenom x6. But on my ASUS board i have the ability to shutdown cores or merge cores together. make 6 into 3 or just have 2 cores or whatever your heart desires. Generally when i run into an issue i just move my processor down to a quad or dual core and all issues go away. I mainly have to do this for old windows 95 games that i still play that are very picky

Im an AMD fan. Have been since the athlon series of processors. But I dislike the new ATI/AMD merger. Thus why my board runs AMD with Nvidia FTW.

Anyway off that side rant. Just a thought i had after skimming through this thread. See if you can modify how many cores are on and see if that helps.

RevolverAce
01-16-2012, 11:39 AM
AMD/ATI has always had problems... all the way back to when my ole' AMD-K5 was giving me grief.

Nvidia + Intel ever since and always happy. ^______^

Dind't those K5's melted if they got to warm because they didnt reset at a set temp, or was that an other CPU?

Tigerdango
11-16-2013, 07:22 AM
What the eff are you guys on about? I have a custom built with an AMD Bulldozer FX-8120 that's overclocked to 3.9GHz...I can run WitN perfectly and have not had BSoD or any problem really with any game that I've run that relates to a processor problem. Including most the games mentioned here.

Hellsrage
12-26-2013, 11:56 AM
What the eff are you guys on about? I have a custom built with an AMD Bulldozer FX-8120 that's overclocked to 3.9GHz...I can run WitN perfectly and have not had BSoD or any problem really with any game that I've run that relates to a processor problem. Including most the games mentioned here.

Back in the day when the FX series was released there were a few games that had TERRIBLE performance. My old PC that had the FX-4100 in it, got 5FPS in the main menu for Deus Ex: Human Evolution. This was caused by an issue that could only be fixed via a BIOS update, but manufactures were taking their sweet freaking time making them.

Needless to say is seems this game was suffering from the same performance issues back then(thread is a 2 years old). All these performance issues with FX series CPU's should be fixed now through a BIOS update.