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T Rush
01-03-2005, 11:43 AM
3DMark11 came out today
http://www.3dmark.com/3dmark11/
so I guess its time I did a makeover on this thread


"WHAT TESTS SHOULD I RUN TO GAUGE MY COMPUTER'S PERFORMANCE?"

Running the stress test (http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/half-life2_vst/) will help you get an idea of how your system runs HL2. For more detailed benchmarks, or if you do not own H A L F - L I F E ² (http://steampowered.com/?area=getsteamnow) yet, try these...

Aquamark3 http://download.guru3d.com/aquamark3/
3Dmark06 http://www.futuremark.com/download/?3dmark06.shtml
3Dmark05 http://www.futuremark.com/download/?3dmark05.shtml
3Dmark03 http://www.futuremark.com/download/?3dmark03.shtml
3Dmark01 http://www.futuremark.com/download/?3dmark2001.shtml
PCmark05 http://www.futuremark.com/download/?pcmark05.shtml
PCmark04 http://www.futuremark.com/download/?pcmark04.shtml

Download those benchmarks, install them, and run them.


Use the "Online ResultBrowser" (http://tinypic.com/17vdk3) and publish your scores online.

Copy the 'Compare URL' from your Project Manager (http://service.futuremark.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectmanager ) and post them. Tell us...
what is your:

CPU (http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/C/CPU.html) ( stock speed, socket type )
CPU CORE (http://www.zen26266.zen.co.uk/Volt.htm) ( Newcastle, Winchester, Northwood, Prescott...)
RAM (http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/R/RAM.html) ( brand, speed, CAS Latency...)
Motherboard (http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/M/motherboard.html) ( brand, chipset )
Video card (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=223148) ( brand, AGP or PCI-E )
Video drivers (http://www.driverzone.com/video.html) ( version # )

If you do not know this info, CPU-Z (http://images.six.betanews.com/screenshots/966149377-1.png) is a small tool that will read your computer
and give you these specifications. Download it >here (http://www.cpuid.org/download/cpu-z-128.zip)<
(it will not install anything on your system).


Originally posted by T Rush
Use the "Online ResultBrowser" (http://tinypic.com/17vdk3) and publish your scores online by setting them as (*)Active and [v]Published
(this is all free, btw)

Copy the 'Compare URL' from your Project Manager (http://service.futuremark.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectmanager ) and post them.

links for 3Dmark scores look like this:
Compare URL: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3288317



that is really the only reason to even run a 3Dmark test...
as you can use the Project Search & Compare
and we can see your score and know that they are valid, see how well your system did in each test, what the CPU scores are, and compare them to our own
as these tests are some of the few that you can compare one system with another...with other benchmarks so many settings can be changed that you can get so many different results

With the Futuremark tests use ORB (http://service.futuremark.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/index)'s Project Search & Compare (http://service.futuremark.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectsearch) to find other published benchmarks with the same hardware you have.

"WHAT SCORES SHOULD I BE GETTING IN THESE TESTS?"

This computer would be what I think is the 'best deal' for gaming today. It is not the fastest nor is it the cheapest. You can compare your scores to this as a 'base system.'

CPU: AMD socket939 3200+
RAM: 1GB (512mb X 2) Dual Channel DDR400
GFX: nVidia 6600GT
MOBO: nForce4 w/ PCI-E (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=224412)

With the Futuremark tests use ORB (http://service.futuremark.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/index)'s Project Search & Compare (http://service.futuremark.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectsearch) to find other published benchmarks with the same hardware you have.

AquaMark has a similar system. It uses ARC (http://arc.aquamark3.com/) a comparative search that shows your measurement at its rank (http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_search.php?).

If you would like to help make this thread better, go here and post > λ (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=226041)

T Rush
01-03-2005, 11:44 AM
"WHAT ARE THESE *BENCHMARKS* ANYWAY?"

AQUAMARK (http://www.aquamark3.com/) is a very good benchmark. Many people like it better than the 3Dmark tests because it reports the CPU scores and it is good at testing many different things that a video card is capable of doing. It does not have the 'compare url' that 3Dmark has, but you can copy the link to your score (http://arc.aquamark3.com/) by clicking on the View button showing the details.

I should point out that the different FUTUREMARK (http://www.futuremark.com/support/) 3Dmark tests use different DirectX (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/directx/default.aspx) features.

3Dmark05 (http://www.futuremark.com/products/3dmark05/) is a hardcore next-gen game test and uses DirectX 9.0c and Pixel Shader 2.0 or higher. You wi...ooops
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some how I just 'hosed' all the stuff I had here :( saved a little edit I did and bam!! "page can not be displayed" sorry I'll rewrite it :P guess I made this post too long

hmmm..lets try HOC http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=927

If you would like to see if your computer runs HL2...download the DEMO
http://www.ati.com/halflife2/index.html

jasax
01-03-2005, 12:12 PM
this is like the 643rd thread like this im guessing

T Rush
01-04-2005, 01:40 AM
The purpose of this 'sticky' thread is to show:

1) Where to download the benchmarks
2) How to post your scores so that others can use them as comparisons
3) Why to report your performance (so that people will be better able to help you with hardware problems, among other reasons)

This thread is also a place to keep everyone's scores, so that you might refer back to them, to see what a piece of hardware might do in your system.

Please feel free to start your own threads and discuss your scores.
Ask what you might be able to do to get higher scores, how to overclock your video card, what drivers you should use, if there is a piece of hardware that is 'bottlenecking' your system... and thus improve your enjoyment of this great game (or any others). *Reserve this thread for just posting your scores.*

Here are some other threads that might help answer some questions.

"What do I need to know about Video Cards?" (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=223148)

Puzzle: "What is the cheapest PC that can be built to play Source/HL2?" (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=222340)

Best Price/performance System You Can Build Today (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=224412)

"What would todays 'Dream PC' be?" (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=221252)

"I can not believe I did that!" (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=218935)

"What is a BIOS/CMOS, and how do I get there?" (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=225957)

DOGARD
01-04-2005, 02:15 AM
amd fx55
abit av8
igb corsair
ati x800xtpe
AQUAMARK 79500
PCMARK05 5950

T Rush
01-05-2005, 06:44 PM
here are my scores

AquaMark Score: 54577 (CPU: 11064, GFX: 7242) @ 238MHz
http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=1760962252

3Dmark05 - 1291........CPU - 4697 @ 230MHz
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=248431

3Dmark03 - 6685.......CPU - 919 @ 210MHz
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3288317

3Dmark01 SE - 20121 @ 237MHz
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8341637

PCmark04 - 4754 @ 237MHz
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm04=2744056

Soltek SL-K8AN2E-GR nForce3 250Gb socket 754
AMD Athlon64 DTR 1mb L2(ClawHammer CG core) 3200+ 2.0GHz
PQI 1GB (2 X 512) DDR PC3200 CAS 2-2-2-5
AOpen FX 5900XT AGP
Driver Version 6.6.8.1

Crazy^Crisp
01-05-2005, 07:01 PM
AMD 64 3200+ @ 2GHz Winchester 939 socket

Sparkle GeForce 6600 GT AGP @ 500/900

MSI VIA K8T800 Pro K8T Neo2-FIR

1 gig value ram


3dMark03 score 7741

T-rush thx for your help with my new buy... I love my new rig

SpinaL
01-05-2005, 07:09 PM
amd 3200+ 90nm
gigabyte k8ns ultra939
bfg 6800gt
ocz platinum rev2

14,409 on 3dmark03
5000 on 3dmark05

sisoft sandra:

mem bandwidth test 5600
cpu test 9000

nothing is oc'd, yet

dontfwithme
01-06-2005, 03:31 AM
please provide links or im gonna call BS on some of these scores. :(

generic
01-06-2005, 04:07 AM
3DMark2001SE - 6000
3DMark03 - 1800 (CPU 400)
Aquamark3 - 17000

Intel P4 Willamette 2GHz
Kingston 256MB PC2700
ATi Radeon 9550 128MB (340/230)
MSI 645E Max2-LRU

matthijsje_666
01-06-2005, 04:24 AM
Originally posted by generic
3DMark2001SE - 6000
3DMark03 - 1800 (CPU 400)
Aquamark3 - 17000

Intel P4 Willamette 2GHz
Kingston 256MB PC2700
ATi Radeon 9550 128MB (340/230)
MSI 645E Max2-LRU

Flash your 9550 to a 9600 and add some extra RAM :)

generic
01-06-2005, 05:05 AM
I don't know if I want to be fiddling with flashing. But I'll probably get some extra RAM. Maybe a new 512MB stick and ditch my current one.

SpinaL
01-06-2005, 05:20 AM
you can call bs all you want lol
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/Spinal/3dmark03.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/Spinal/3dmark01.jpg

matthijsje_666
01-06-2005, 08:22 AM
Originally posted by generic
I don't know if I want to be fiddling with flashing. But I'll probably get some extra RAM. Maybe a new 512MB stick and ditch my current one.
Sounds good.

Flashing isn't really risky, if it goes wrong you can just flash your old BIOS back with an old PCI card.

dontfwithme
01-06-2005, 08:30 AM
Originally posted by SpinaL
you can call bs all you want lol
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/Spinal/3dmark03.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/Spinal/3dmark01.jpg


well i was not calling you out and those links are $hit. you need to provide links to submitted online results to be valid.


those links only prove cheaters. :(

Mickie M
01-06-2005, 08:42 AM
spinal if youre gonna lie about scores keep it consistant, saying you get 14k in 3dmark03 and then posting a pic showing 11k which is more appropriate.

dont be getting angry at people for pointing out youre mistakes.

jago25_98
01-06-2005, 11:08 AM
I live in Winchester... what the hell?

SpinaL
01-06-2005, 11:12 AM
tis called overclocking the vid card my uber noober friend and those shots were taken before i overclocked. and how is a screenshot of a score supposed to prove cheaters lol, all i care about is my hl2 / doom3 / farcry and bf1942 run at 100fps what everyone else thinks doesnt matter much to me

yapchagi
01-06-2005, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by DOGARD
amd fx55
abit av8
igb corsair
ati x800xtpe
AQUAMARK 79500
PCMARK05 5950

What a kick puppypuppypuppy processor you got there...

dontfwithme
01-06-2005, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by SpinaL
tis called overclocking the vid card my uber noober friend and those shots were taken before i overclocked. and how is a screenshot of a score supposed to prove cheaters lol, all i care about is my hl2 / doom3 / farcry and bf1942 run at 100fps what everyone else thinks doesnt matter much to me


tis called BS Troll!

j.rhy@n
01-06-2005, 03:46 PM
see my next post...

T Rush
01-06-2005, 03:59 PM
good post j.rhy@n :)

but for my benefit are you use'n a Newcastle or the new 90nm Winchester?

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-460&depa=1
or
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-494&depa=1

as both are 2.2GHz 3500+'s ( now they do have a Newcastle 3400+ that is 2.2GHz.....so why do they also have one at the same GHz rated at 3500+ ?)

can't wait to see how much higher your CPU score are after you do 'alittle' overclock'n
as your CPU score look good now

try compare'n to my links at the start of this thread

j.rhy@n
01-06-2005, 04:07 PM
Its a socket 939 Hyper Transport AMD 64 3500+ (Winchester) only bought it today for 239 euros :-)

Runs very well...


*Edit... Im trying to figure out if its a Newcastle or Winchester... Im off to bed now its late.. I will report back tommorow..

and yes my system isnt over clocked.... If I clock it them Im sure another 600 Points on 3D Mark 05 can be managed..

ZeusH8sU
01-06-2005, 06:48 PM
Amd xp2100+stock for now oc later
Temp 36c idle/41 load
Asus A7v333 mobo
Mushkin 512mb pc2100
SB Live with Denon A-hd500 headphones
ATI 9600np
Temp 25 idle/30 load





25903@425 / 255 MHz
http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=2029708798 (aquamark)

3135@426 / 255 Mhz
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3530631 (3d mark 03)

10356@425/255 mhz
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8332860 (3d mark 01)

2872@400/250 mhz
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm04=2748669 (pcmark04)

forgot to update 3dmark05 and it would not let me post score but it was 1168 highest fps was 8fps =(....let me know what u guys think..

cem
01-06-2005, 07:12 PM
12306 - 3dmark 2001

Rad 9700pro (cat3.7)
AMD XP 2000+ @1.6 (i think)
512Ram, (slow PC2700)
MSI KT7 Ultra ARU Deluxe mobo

I havnt uploaded, seems a little slow considering my ti4200 gave me 10000.

Crazy^Crisp
01-06-2005, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by j.rhy@n
Its a socket 939 Hyper Transport AMD 64 3500+ (Winchester) only bought it today for 239 euros :-)

Runs very well...


*Edit... Im trying to figure out if its a Newcastle or Winchester... Im off to bed now its late.. I will report back tommorow..

and yes my system isnt over clocked.... If I clock it them Im sure another 600 Points on 3D Mark 05 can be managed..
I had trouble finding out if I had a New Castle or winchester as 3Dmark03 kept telling me it was a 754 socket... So I DL this program http://www.cpuid.com/download/cpu-z-126.zip

Its pretty handy.. Oh yeah I got a winchester 3200+ 939 socket

T Rush
01-06-2005, 09:17 PM
oops....thx Crazy^Crisp... I just downloaded CPU-Z from your link..and ran it
gosh...I musta forgot I overclocked my CPU upto 2.37GHz a few days ago (its stock 2.0GHz and I run it most of the time at 2.3GHz)
so my 'puter (RAM/CPU) has been just burning away all this time...well if its this stable at 237MHz (with my RAM at CAS 2)...better try it @ 242MHz hehe

Crazy^Crisp
01-06-2005, 09:27 PM
Yeah its a very useful program to monitor your cpu with and its tiny too.

I just ran 3dmark03 agian and with a few tweaks got a score of 7774.. Not bad but I wonder with my specs of

AMD 64 3200+ @ 2GHz Winchester 939 socket

Sparkle GeForce 6600 GT AGP @ 500/900

MSI VIA K8T800 Pro K8T Neo2-FIR (on-board sound)

1 gig value ram( ITS REALLY CRAP) 3-3-3-8

if this is a good score??

Also if I bought better ram (eg:corsair) how much of an improvement can I expect?

T Rush
01-06-2005, 10:38 PM
you need to do the online thing with 3Dmark...and publish your scores on their site...then copy the 'Compare URL' so we can see it

and buy some freaking better RAM..you goof
good god!!!
you make me sick
with your oh so cool 6600GT
and that super fly Winchester
and your feeding it RAM like that!!!!!
I sould march right over to your house and stick my RAM in your rig..and strap you down to your chair and run 3Dmark in a loop till you promise never to do anything like that again!!!
go around the board, do not pass go, and go directly to www.newegg.com and give them $250 for some fricking RAM!!!

gr8fu1
01-06-2005, 10:40 PM
3DMark2001 SE - 19855 3D marks
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8352423

3DMark03 - 9547 3D Marks
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3557076

PCMark04 - 4274 PC Marks
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm04=2749198

Aquamark3 - GFX 8160 CPU 9302 Total: 56,722
http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=285068324

3DMark05 - 3412 3DMarks
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=455299

Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+

RAM: Mushkin Dual Pack (512MBx2) DDR PC-3200 .

Motherboard: ASUS A8V Deluxe
Motherboard Chipset: VIA K8T800 Pro

Graphics Card: BFG 6800OC (128 MB)

Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (Service Pack 2)

PSU: Antec True 430W Power Supply

T Rush
01-06-2005, 11:11 PM
oh come on gr8fu1
you can do better than that....

with that BFG 6800OC ?

Core Clock 351 MHz ?

Memory Clock 702 MHz ?

that all those can do? I can run 500 core and 800 mem clocks on my FX 5900XT

go get coolbits http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=201
and maybe some better drivers while your there

add coolbit to your drivers and go on the 'Advanced' page of your 'Display Properties'..click on the FX 6800 tab...set your 'Performance&Quality Settings' to preformance...then (if you got the coobits) go to the 'Clock Frequency Settings' page...click 'Manual overclocking', and 'Settings' to 'Performance (3D)...click on 'Detect Optimal Frequencies' let it do its thing and Apply
coobits is nVidia's own overclocking...and it is built into the drivers...coobits just unlocks it so you can use it....and its very hard to screw-up...as it makes you test anything before you can apply it

T Rush
01-06-2005, 11:29 PM
gr8fu1
even with the stock clocks your score should be way higher than that

your CPU scores look fine...but with a 6800 OC those GXF scores look way low

did you install your chip-set drivers for your motherboard ok?
is your AGP bus set at only 4X..when it should be at 8X?
that should be a very high score'n card...hmmm anybody else know what that card should do?

try this driver
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=931

T Rush
01-07-2005, 11:43 AM
plz tell us your stock CPU speeds and your core type when posting scores on this thread

if you don't know your core type download CPU-Z
http://www.cpuid.com/download/cpu-z-126.zip

gr8fu1
01-07-2005, 11:53 AM
Originally posted by T Rush
plz tell us your stock CPU speeds and your core type when posting scores on this thread


Newcastle - 2200Mhz

T@T-2-m0nK3Y
01-07-2005, 11:56 AM
AMD Athlon XP 3200+ Barton
Inno3D geforce 6800 gt (oc'd to 400/1100)

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=456999

SpinaL
01-07-2005, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by T Rush
[B]oh come on gr8fu1
you can do better than that....

with that BFG 6800OC ?

Core Clock 351 MHz ?

Memory Clock 702 MHz ?


stock is 370 and 1000

T Rush
01-07-2005, 12:27 PM
Originally posted by SpinaL
stock is 370 and 1000

ok then.....how is that card *under clocking* itself...something is wrong

T Rush
01-07-2005, 12:31 PM
Originally posted by T@T-2-m0nK3Y
AMD Athlon XP 3200+ Barton
Inno3D geforce 6800 gt (oc'd to 400/1100)



hmmm well if you have a Barton...those CPU scores are great..good job...I would have never thought the ol' XP's would do that good :)
thx for share'n

T@T-2-m0nK3Y
01-07-2005, 12:35 PM
i'm guessing the 1024 MB pc3200 of corsair xms is helping aswell...

hAiduZ
01-07-2005, 12:41 PM
-AMD 3000+ socket 939 Winchester @ Stock Speeds
-1GB Corsair XMS 2-3-3-6 T1
-MSI K8 Neo2 Platinum
-XFX 6600GT AGP @ (around) 570/1150
-Windows XP Pro (No SP2)

3Dmark03 - 8853
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3557190

3DMark05 - 3854
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=455030

3DMark2001 - 18430
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8345429

Aquamark - 57,000 (around)

I ran these with the newest Nvidia drivers, 71.24. With the official ones its around 300 point lower on 03 and 05.

The 3DMark03 detects my core speed at 300mhz for some reason, but 05 at the same time at the speeds it should run. Dont know how to fix this :-/

gr8fu1
01-07-2005, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by SpinaL
stock is 370 and 1000

I don't have the GT


GPU NVIDIA® GeForce™ 6800
>> Bus Type AGP
>> Memory 128MB DDR
>> Core Clock 350MHz (vs. 325MHZ standard)
>> Memory Clock 700MHz (effective)
>> RAMDAC Dual 400MHz

GPU NVIDIA® GeForce™ 6800 GT
>> Bus Type AGP
>> Memory 256MB GDDR3
>> Core Clock 370MHz (vs. 350MHZ standard)
>> Memory Clock 1000MHz (effective)
>> RAMDAC Dual 400MHz

T Rush
01-07-2005, 03:51 PM
well then your mem. clock is slow
get that coolbits 'unlocker'
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=201
and see what your 'clocks' at at with that...because in your 3Dmark scores it sez. ya got 702MHz clock (sometimes 3Dmark gives wrong mem. MHz)

CrazybeanswEggs
01-07-2005, 03:55 PM
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=457857 3dmark05-5467 (its usually in the 5600 range.. hmmm)

Specs:
3.4E @ 3825mhz, 225 FSB
Sapphire X800 XT @ 520/560
ASUS P4P800-E Deluxe
1gb Corsair XMS (2x 512mb)
WD Raptor 74 gig

T Rush
01-07-2005, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by CrazybeanswEggs
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=457857 3dmark05-5467 (its usually in the 5600 range.. hmmm)

Specs:
3.4E @ 3825mhz, 225 FSB
Sapphire X800 XT @ 520/560
ASUS P4P800-E Deluxe
1gb Corsair XMS (2x 512mb)
WD Raptor 74 gig
the P4E 3.8GHz ...CPU test 1 = 2.3 ..... CPU test 2 = 3.4

cool..a P4 is showing what it can do in the CPU scores...looks about the same as a Wincester 3000+ 1.8GHz...take a look people^

the Winnie 1.8GHz ...CPU test 1 = 2.2 ..... CPU test 2 = 3.8
Originally posted by hAiduZ
-AMD 3000+ socket 939 Winchester @ Stock Speeds
-1GB Corsair XMS 2-3-3-6 T1
-MSI K8 Neo2 Platinum
-XFX 6600GT AGP @ (around) 570/1150
-Windows XP Pro (No SP2)

3DMark05 - 3854
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=455030

gr8fu1
01-07-2005, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by T Rush
well then your mem. clock is slow
get that coolbits 'unlocker'
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=201
and see what your 'clocks' at at with that...because in your 3Dmark scores it sez. ya got 702MHz clock (sometimes 3Dmark gives wrong mem. MHz)

Core Clock 350MHz (vs. 325MHZ standard)
Memory Clock 700MHz (effective)

That's normal!

hAiduZ
01-07-2005, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by T Rush
the P4E 3.8GHz ...CPU test 1 = 2.3 ..... CPU test 2 = 3.4

cool..a P4 is showing what it can do in the CPU scores...looks about the same as a Wincester 3000+ 1.8GHz...take a look people^

the Winnie 1.8GHz ...CPU test 1 = 2.2 ..... CPU test 2 = 3.8

Yep I love my Winny!!! :D
Not OCed yet too, I might need a new heatsink if I want to tho, getting around 35-50 C now...

T Rush
01-08-2005, 01:37 AM
Originally posted by gr8fu1
Core Clock 350MHz (vs. 325MHZ standard)
Memory Clock 700MHz (effective)

That's normal!

I thought those had a 1000MHz mem clock!!

old age CStrike
01-08-2005, 01:56 AM
Originally posted by SpinaL
amd 3200+ 90nm
gigabyte k8ns ultra939
bfg 6800gt
ocz platinum rev2

14,409 on 3dmark03
5000 on 3dmark05

sisoft sandra:

mem bandwidth test 5600
cpu test 9000

nothing is oc'd, yet

how do u get such high score on ur tests with ur pc ???
i i have a
abit av8 3rd eye mobo skt 939
athlon 64 3500+ 130nm
1mb corsair xms twinx pc3200
now i had 6800gt and got 3dmark 03 (11,081) 3dmark 05 (4486)
now i have x800xt pe 3dmark 03 (12449) 3dmark 05 (5844)

T Rush
01-08-2005, 02:07 AM
SpinaL does not have those scores..untill he grows up and learns how to make a link...

yeah, people...just do it...get it right...don't bother just write'n in scores on your post if you can't make a link

your just pointless

why would you run those test,,if you don't do the online compare?

T@T-2-m0nK3Y
01-08-2005, 05:14 AM
my comp specs (http://www.freewebs.com/tat2monk3y/specs.htm)

3dmark05 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=456999)

fixmyhead
01-08-2005, 05:31 AM
AquaMark Score: 59690 (CPU: 8541, GFX: 9174)

3Dmark05 - 4559........CPU - 3475
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=459489

3Dmark03 - 9970.......CPU - 831
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3562128

3Dmark01 SE - 22007
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8355168

PCmark04 - 4242
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm04=2751272

MSI K8T NEO-FIS2R
AMD Athlon64 DTR 1mb L2(ClawHammer CG core) 3400+ 2.2GHz
CRUCIAL 1GB (1 X 1024) DDR PC3200
ATI RADEON X800PRO
2 160GB WESTERN DIGITAL SATA (STRIPED)

T@T-2-m0nK3Y
01-08-2005, 05:59 AM
got a pcmark04 score now...
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm04=2751408

dontfwithme
01-08-2005, 08:04 AM
Originally posted by T Rush
SpinaL does not have those scores..untill he grows up and learns how to make a link...

yeah, people...just do it...get it right...don't bother just write'n in scores on your post if you can't make a link

your just pointless

why would you run those test,,if you don't do the online compare?


well its not so much the lower scores that you need to provide a link. just if it high for your combination.

ala spineless!

by providing a link it allows others with similar combinations to judge their performance and have something to shoot for.

T Rush
01-08-2005, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by fixmyhead

AMD Athlon64 DTR 1mb L2(ClawHammer CG core) 3400+ 2.2GHz


oh my goodness.....oh my goodness.......

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=202583


fixmyhead you blewmymind

T Rush
01-09-2005, 02:53 AM
gosh fixmyhead has only made one post on this whole forum? and that was it...or is it one of you guys mess'n with me?

cgh
01-09-2005, 10:00 AM
Originally posted by T Rush
gosh fixmyhead has only made one post on this whole forum? and that was it...or is it one of you guys mess'n with me?

LOL!!! He must be very advanced person ;)

You got yourself a thread stuck. I'll be posting my benchmarks later (hopefully) with my nice dfi ut board and my new ocz memory :p Stupid. . .Can't get good stability from one of the 2 sticks.

thegrommit
01-09-2005, 10:22 AM
Seeing as this is a Valve forum, I'm curious as to why there isn't a Video Stress Test included in the list of benchmarks.

Of course it's a little trickier benching with VST due to the different settings and versions of DirectX, but it'll at least be relevant to peformance of Valve games.

Perhaps suggest that people bench using the default (i.e. those with a "*" ) settings for their card and the same resolution (say 1024x768)

T Rush
01-09-2005, 11:52 AM
nah..the Stress Test is more for personal use...as I know of no way to publish your results...(and I have heard that peolpe don't get constant results)

SpinaL
01-09-2005, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by old age CStrike
how do u get such high score on ur tests with ur pc ???
i i have a
abit av8 3rd eye mobo skt 939
athlon 64 3500+ 130nm
1mb corsair xms twinx pc3200
now i had 6800gt and got 3dmark 03 (11,081) 3dmark 05 (4486)
now i have x800xt pe 3dmark 03 (12449) 3dmark 05 (5844)

lol my bad 3dmark03 was supposed to be 11488 3dmark05 is 5000, mem bandwidth is cuz my ram owns, and tell me how to post a link and i will

T Rush
01-09-2005, 12:51 PM
after running each test, your scores are displayed, and there is a big button that sez..."Online ResultBrowser" click that...this will check to see if you are use'n the updated test and if you have tampered with the test to get a false score..and then alow you to 'publish' a valid score to obtain a 'Compare URL' that you can then copy and post here :)...it is all free..and you only need one account for all 4 Futuremark test (you have to pay only if you want the 'pro' test..so that you can change the settings)

SpinaL
01-09-2005, 12:53 PM
thanks i'll go run the test.

gr8fu1
01-09-2005, 05:58 PM
Originally posted by T Rush
oh come on gr8fu1
you can do better than that....


Ok...

Upgraded my VIA 4in1 Drivers
Unlocked a Vertex unit pipe (couldn't unlock the other Pixel pipe)
Overclocked the 6800 a little further to:
Core Clock 394 MHz
Memory Clock 789 MHz

<edit> oh... and I updated drivers to 71.24 </edit>

4271 3DMarks
4009 CPUMarks

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=455299

859 more points.

Getting better...

fixmyhead
01-09-2005, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by T Rush
gosh fixmyhead has only made one post on this whole forum? and that was it...or is it one of you guys mess'n with me?

Nobody's messin with you, I'm just not big on posting. I've been reading the forums for a while now though. I'm gonna run the benchmarks on my notebook and post them soon...

Danny M
01-09-2005, 06:39 PM
P4 3.0'E' prescott
3dmark03 - 6386: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3569751

3dmark05 - 2385: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=465674


I'm gonna get some RAM sinks w/AS5 adhesive to see if I can push the mem higher then 380.

Then later on some better RAM so I can start pushing this P4 to it's limit.

4LT3ZZ4
01-09-2005, 09:13 PM
3dmark05 - 6800gt with a 3ghz intel and 512 ram - 5585

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=434382

Gentle
01-10-2005, 09:22 AM
AMD Athlon XP 2100+
1 gig system ram
Geforce 6600GT AGP

3477 3dMark05

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=465222

Gentle

P.S. With a better processor, just think what I'd score... Man.

Mickie M
01-10-2005, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by Gentle
AMD Athlon XP 2100+
1 gig system ram
Geforce 6600GT AGP

3477 3dMark05

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=465222

Gentle

P.S. With a better processor, just think what I'd score... Man. a few hundred more most likely

Rohirrim
01-10-2005, 01:49 PM
hm bad 2200 in futuremark05
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=467694
and about 45000 in aquamark03
http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=1291809536

- amd64 3500+ winchester
- radeon 9800pro
- a8v deluxe
- 2gigs kingston hyperx

the gfx-card is on agp 4x because otherwise the futuremark05 freezes the pc

here are the results of the other 3dmarks :
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8360593 (01)
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3572584 (03)

Mickie M
01-10-2005, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by Rohirrim
hm bad 2200 in futuremark05
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=467694
and about 45000 in aquamark03
http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=1291809536

- amd64 3500+ winchester
- radeon 9800pro
- a8v deluxe
- 2gigs kingston hyperx

the gfx-card is on agp 4x because otherwise the futuremark05 freezes the pc dont ya just love software conflicts....

Rohirrim
01-10-2005, 02:18 PM
hm in which way ?
i dont know what i shouldt change on my softwareconfiguration ?

Mickie M
01-10-2005, 02:38 PM
never easy to tell over the internet but if i was you it would most likely end in a reformat if its not a simple config error

dontfwithme
01-10-2005, 04:55 PM
3DMark05=6319 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=366523)


3Dmark03=13818 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3450898)


aquamark3=74753 (http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=1425471576)

fixmyhead
01-10-2005, 08:32 PM
AquaMark Score: 9909 (CPU: 9328, GFX: 1047)

3Dmark05 - wouldn't run

3Dmark03 - no cpu marks.......CPU - 252
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3562128

3Dmark01 SE - 6008; wouldn't let me publish, said cpu mismatch

PCmark04 - wouldn't run


COMPAQ R3240
AMD Athlon64 3200+ 2.2GHz
512 RAM
NVIDIA GEFORCE4 440 GO 64MB DEDICATED

T Rush
01-11-2005, 04:01 AM
fixmyhead...
can you put in the new Go 6800 (http://www.nvidia.com/page/go_6800.html) and your DTR (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-442&depa=1) or get a faster 3700+ (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-490&depa=1)?
that might get '05 to run

Rohirrim
01-11-2005, 05:56 AM
Originally posted by Mickie M
never easy to tell over the internet but if i was you it would most likely end in a reformat if its not a simple config error

hm ... i hope no reinstall
this system ist just 1 week old
but i think i had to do this
because from the start ive got some unnormal problems with the gfx-card
like freezin the pc when surfin with opera and so on

i will test some things out and see what happends

fixmyhead
01-11-2005, 06:03 AM
Originally posted by T Rush
fixmyhead...
can you put in the new Go 6800 (http://www.nvidia.com/page/go_6800.html) and your DTR (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-442&depa=1) or get a faster 3700+ (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-490&depa=1)?
that might get '05 to run

Can I put it in? Not a chance. I can't figure out why the best video card that Compaq offers with their AMD64 is the MX440. I can get a Radeon x600 128, but you have to go with the p4 540. I may end up with that one soon.

Mickie M
01-11-2005, 08:29 AM
format and reinstalls are like the enima of the computer world.

Rohirrim
01-11-2005, 01:41 PM
i dont think that there any configuration problems
as you can see here :
http://www.tweakpc.de/hardware/tests/graka/geforce6600gt/s06.php
my points in 3dmark03 nearly the same like the testet score
so i thnik i will watch out for a gt6600 or gt6800
to get higher scores

but i like the cpu scores from the amd64 really
they killin even the monster p4 :-)

CrazybeanswEggs
01-11-2005, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by 4LT3ZZ4
3dmark05 - 6800gt with a 3ghz intel and 512 ram - 5585

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=434382
He beat my CPU score by 400... hmmm.... gonna try 3dmark05 with my XT @ 530/580 and the cpu at 3.4 and see what happens :)

**Edit**:
Thats the way I like it :D 3dmark05: 5792, 3888 CPU
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=470776
4LT3ZZ4, I don't really believe that score considering my 3.4 at stock gets 500 pts lower, also considering the 6800gt and the ram... hmmm

**Edit-Edit** Oh... its a 6800 gt clocked beyond Ultra Speeds, that makes sense. But the CPU score is still confusing.

muchacho
01-12-2005, 01:45 PM
How would I take a screen shot in 3dmark03 to show artifacts that I'm not actually sure are artifacts. I tried print screen and photoshop but it doesn't seem to copy the screen when I prnt scrn. As for the artifacts, I've been told they are this or that, so I want to get an honest opinoin on what I have are artifacts or not.

One more question, whats a good site to host my pics to link to?

Rohirrim
01-12-2005, 02:23 PM
for imagehosting try
imageshack.us
its a free service

CrazybeanswEggs
01-12-2005, 03:22 PM
Originally posted by muchacho
How would I take a screen shot in 3dmark03 to show artifacts that I'm not actually sure are artifacts. I tried print screen and photoshop but it doesn't seem to copy the screen when I prnt scrn. As for the artifacts, I've been told they are this or that, so I want to get an honest opinoin on what I have are artifacts or not.

One more question, whats a good site to host my pics to link to?
Its F12 in 3dmark05, not sure about 03 though.

By the way, new score :)
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=474185
Upped my CPU voltage so it will actually run while the video card is cranked all the way up, yay.

SpinaL
01-12-2005, 05:12 PM
i finally got around to doing it so now ya'll can believe me :)

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3588470

rolzz_89
01-12-2005, 05:15 PM
Here's my info:

CPU: Intel Pentium 4 530, 3014 Mhz, 800FSB,
CPU CORE: Prescott
RAM: 1GB DDR-SDRAM (2x512), dual channel, 201Mhz.
Motherboard: Gigabyte 8I915P Duo Pro, intel i915P/i915G
Video card: PCI-Express, ATI-Radeon, 256MB, (it says Excaliber on the box, do u need to know that?)
Video drivers: Can't find on CPU-Z, is this Direct X ur talking about? if so 9.something. If not, how do u find?

Score: 12192 (3D Mark 2001 SE)

I know i should get a more recent benchmarker but it will take too long to download...

Are these scores good?

SpinaL
01-12-2005, 05:16 PM
wow in 3dmark01 i get 21000 lol and i only have a 2.0ghz cpu but i have a 6800GT

rolzz_89
01-12-2005, 05:33 PM
First of all is it 2nd Edition? Cos if it's not they could hav a completely dif scoring system.

Also I think 12000 is pretty high cos the only test it lagged on was the high polygon count with 8 lights... i dont think you can get 21000...

SpinaL
01-12-2005, 05:34 PM
sigh i'll go run the test...bbl

SpinaL
01-12-2005, 05:47 PM
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8364944 there you go my good man

rolzz_89
01-12-2005, 05:51 PM
ok, ok i believe u but it doesnt make much sense...

wats ur ram and ur graphics card...?

SpinaL
01-12-2005, 05:53 PM
http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_el_ddr_pc_3200_dual_channel_platinum_rev_2

ram^

http://www.bfgtech.com/6800GTOC.html
vid card ^

http://www.arctic-cooling.com/vga2.php?idx=40
vid card cooler ^

rolzz_89
01-12-2005, 05:57 PM
holy crap those scores are good... the car chase would have been over in like 10 seconds!!

and i meant how MUCH ram u got, telling me the model doesnt halp much... also is it DDR1?

i thought my graphics card was quite good, everyone tells me radeon are the best, but obviously yours is better... :(

EDIT: Not much is diff between our systems, you have NVIDIA graphics card and drivers i hav radeon, but your drivers are more updated.. is that it?

SpinaL
01-12-2005, 05:58 PM
i have 1 gig and yes its ddr1 its TCCD thats what makes it pwnage also my friends benchmark i think you'll like it ;)

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?c=2875015_1 :)

rolzz_89
01-12-2005, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by SpinaL
i have 1 gig and yes its ddr1 its TCCD thats what makes it pwnage also my friends benchmark i think you'll like it ;)

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?c=2875015_1 :)

1. What's TCCD?

2. How do I get it?

3. Is it expensive?

SpinaL
01-12-2005, 06:01 PM
1. What's TCCD?

2. How do I get it?

3. Is it expensive?

TCCD is the chips that are in the ram, and with the A64 it kicks big puppies! lol

you go to the store and buy it

yes

rolzz_89
01-12-2005, 06:05 PM
how come ur friends scores are so good, most of his stuff is older than mine? is it that tccp stuff again?

EDIT: how come he didnt do the bottom tests? it says N/A next to them!
EDIT2: here's my project:
http://service.futuremark.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectdetails&projectType=6

does the tccp replace your old ram or go into it?

and when u say expensive, is that like 100's of dollars or 1000's of dollars?

SpinaL
01-12-2005, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by rolzz_89
how come ur friends scores are so good, most of his stuff is older than mine? is it that tccp stuff again?


does the tccp replace your old ram or go into it?

and when u say expensive, is that like 100's of dollars or 1000's of dollars?

my friend got lucky with his BH-5 ram and hes running 1.5-2-2-5 timings i managed to get to 2-2-2-5 from 2-4-2-5 lol but anyway. If you want TCCD chip you need new ram altogeather. my 1gig kit cost me 460$ canadian. and thats with tax

edit: its only free version...all he did and i did is just click run benchmark whatever it does is out of my control.

rolzz_89
01-12-2005, 06:11 PM
how u change timings? if i do will i screw up my ram? can u help me find good timing to make it faster? and how much is $460 canadian in Aussie dollars?

EDIT: oops i gave wrong URL above:

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8364907

that's the right one

SpinaL
01-12-2005, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by rolzz_89
how u change timings? if i do will i screw up my ram? can u help me find good timing to make it faster? and how much is $460 canadian in Aussie dollars?

EDIT: oops i gave wrong URL above:

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8364907

that's the right one

i use A64 tweaker, and it depends what kind of ram you have, this is overclocking ram so it reaches like 270fsb which is insane from pc3200. the best timings are 1.5-2-2-5 as my friend has, i have 2-2-2-5, next is 2.5-2-3-6 which isnt bad what you want to avoid is something like 3-3-3-8, and props to that gigabyte mobo!

i see your project looks good but i dont care for the vid card. I bet a 9800XT would do just as well. Aussie dollars...just call your bank or whatever and find out how much the exchange rate is.

ZeusH8sU
01-12-2005, 06:22 PM
one thing ive noticed about people showing their benchmark scores here and in other threads is that they brag about their scores using older drivers instead of using updated drivers?why?just my 2 cents..

rolzz_89
01-12-2005, 06:23 PM
Yea well everyone I talked to said that radeon was the best graphics card peoples and I know that 256mb is the best available commercially, cos u cant get 512mb yet. also the guy selling it to us said that the X600 was the best value for money, the X800 would be overkill and not necessary until much better games come out... so we got the X600 and it runs HL2 on high settings perfectly.

SpinaL
01-12-2005, 06:23 PM
edit: ya i have 67.22 latest from nvidia.

SpinaL
01-12-2005, 06:32 PM
256 megs ? what for its not needed yet. ATi isnt the best neither is nvidia. one tries to out do the other every month. Any top of the line card a x800xt or a 6800 ultra will both do amazing jobs in games. So it is really a matter of preference. Plus there is a low line of nvidias like the 6600GT

dontfwithme
01-12-2005, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by CrazybeanswEggs
Its F12 in 3dmark05, not sure about 03 though.

By the way, new score :)
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=474185
Upped my CPU voltage so it will actually run while the video card is cranked all the way up, yay.


nice score man. thats some of the highest i have seen with a 12 pipe card.

dontfwithme
01-12-2005, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by SpinaL
amd 3200+ 90nm
gigabyte k8ns ultra939
bfg 6800gt
ocz platinum rev2

14,409 on 3dmark03
5000 on 3dmark05

sisoft sandra:

mem bandwidth test 5600
cpu test 9000

nothing is oc'd, yet




glad you got it done right SpinaL! :)




your score of 11,000+ is a far cry from your claims of 14,400.



now get that thing OCed and see what she can really do!

rolzz_89
01-12-2005, 08:08 PM
where can u get the A64 tweaker?
i wanna change the timings on my ram, so does it tell you wat is safe or something?

SpinaL
01-12-2005, 08:10 PM
lol ya typed it wrong oh well lol, before i give you the a64 tweaker i wanna know what ram you have the speed of it, because i dont want you blaming me if it blows up

rolzz_89
01-12-2005, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by SpinaL
lol ya typed it wrong oh well lol, before i give you the a64 tweaker i wanna know what ram you have the speed of it, because i dont want you blaming me if it blows up

1 GB, 201mhz, pc3200.

Is that what u needed?

SpinaL
01-12-2005, 08:22 PM
it helps, one last thing do you know who makes it? like ocz/corsair/kingston etc..

rolzz_89
01-12-2005, 08:24 PM
in CPU-Z it says Manufacturer: 000000000000000000


wat does that mean??

SpinaL
01-12-2005, 08:28 PM
probably no name brand. I wouldnt reccomend overclocking it or tightening the timings, what are they at now? and if you do really want to oc your ram get heat spreaders first.

rolzz_89
01-12-2005, 08:37 PM
is there any other way to find out than using cpuz? cos i dont think it would be a no name brand.

muchacho
01-12-2005, 10:42 PM
AMD Athlon XP Barton 2500+ Socket A
1830MHz, FSB 166.4MHz, Bus Speed 332.7MHz
Geil 1GB PC3200(DDR400) (2*512 Dual Channel)
166.4MHz CAS#Latency 2.0clocks
Abit NF7 nVidia nForce2 Ultra 400
((Bios date 12/24/2020????))
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro AGP Flashed to 9800XT w/Zalman Sandwich w/fan
Driver Version 6.14.10.6497

3DMark03 - just above 6200 - althought I got what appears to be artifacts
http://img101.exs.cx/img101/8492/shot00040nu.jpg
http://img101.exs.cx/img101/8324/shot00072rs.jpg
http://img101.exs.cx/img101/68/shot00109za.jpg
http://img101.exs.cx/img101/2291/shot00113sr.jpg
http://img101.exs.cx/img101/838/shot00128hk.jpg
http://img101.exs.cx/img101/4034/shot00145zd.jpg


3DMark05
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=474647

PCMark04
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm04=2759013

Posted new thread in Hardware forum with questions.
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=227969

SpinaL
01-13-2005, 09:25 AM
Originally posted by rolzz_89
is there any other way to find out than using cpuz? cos i dont think it would be a no name brand.

you can try sisoft sandra (google it) but i dont think it would be any different. Do you have a prebuilt comp like a dell or hp or whatever, because if you do then it is no name brand ram.

CrazybeanswEggs
01-13-2005, 09:11 PM
Originally posted by dontfwithme
nice score man. thats some of the highest i have seen with a 12 pipe card.
It's not a Pro, it's a regular XT overclocked. For some reason every Radeon xxxx XT just says "xxxx series." Hmmmm... oh and thanks :)

T Rush
01-14-2005, 06:42 AM
Originally posted by SpinaL
you can try sisoft sandra (google it) but i dont think it would be any different. Do you have a prebuilt comp like a dell or hp or whatever, because if you do then it is no name brand ram.

or I have a link to SiSoft's Sandra 2005 on the first page of this thread

edit- well, I 'had' a link to that...now its gone :(

Mickie M
01-14-2005, 12:56 PM
Originally posted by muchacho
AMD Athlon XP Barton 2500+ Socket A
1830MHz, FSB 166.4MHz, Bus Speed 332.7MHz
Geil 1GB PC3200(DDR400) (2*512 Dual Channel)
166.4MHz CAS#Latency 2.0clocks
Abit NF7 nVidia nForce2 Ultra 400
((Bios date 12/24/2020????))
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro AGP Flashed to 9800XT w/Zalman Sandwich w/fan
Driver Version 6.14.10.6497

3DMark03 - just above 6200 - althought I got what appears to be artifacts
http://img101.exs.cx/img101/8492/shot00040nu.jpg
http://img101.exs.cx/img101/8324/shot00072rs.jpg
http://img101.exs.cx/img101/68/shot00109za.jpg
http://img101.exs.cx/img101/2291/shot00113sr.jpg
http://img101.exs.cx/img101/838/shot00128hk.jpg
http://img101.exs.cx/img101/4034/shot00145zd.jpg


3DMark05
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=474647

PCMark04
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm04=2759013

Posted new thread in Hardware forum with questions.
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=227969 its alot more useful to people if you used default graphics card settings for tests.

muchacho
01-14-2005, 12:57 PM
You mean as a 9800pro right? I was unaware of this.

Mickie M
01-14-2005, 01:55 PM
no i mean the quality settings texture detail, mipmap detail, etc. from the gpu properties.

btw t rush heres an example of how much it dosent matter to overclock an athlon xp with 3dmark here (http://www.eirepc.com/3dmark/3dmark.htm), i may do a more professional version some other time but as you can see an extra 17mhz on the fsb and 200 on internal clock wont make a dramatic difference.

T Rush
01-14-2005, 11:49 PM
hmmm ..yes I C
no CPU tests run....and those 3Dmarks have always been known as video card test.. both 3Dmark03 and 05 have CPU tests that don't add to the score of the 3Dmark test.....
try that same thing (one run at 200MHz and another at 217MHz) with 3Dmark01 and Aquamark3 and you will see a diffrence in the scores..as they total in the CPU with the Video card

with the XP that T@T-2-m0nK3Y has (I'm guessing you are talking about how much I liked his scores) I was looking at his CPU scores....as I do with all the scores I see here. The video cards give very much the same scores with those two tests in any well running system...but the CPU scores can tell you alot about someones system....many things come in to play; MHz, L2 , Dual/Single ch. mem.,...

with the card tests..they might as well print your scores on the box....as (up to a point) the CPU has only a small part in those test...the diffrence of running a 2.2GHz CPU and a 2.0GHz CPU is somewhat small with the video tests...but in the CPU test...you can see a much bigger diffrence

ATW
01-15-2005, 04:12 AM
A64 3400+ Clawhammer CG 2.2Ghz
Mushkin 2x512 PC3200 222 Specials BH-6 ~ 2-2-2-6
MSI K8N Neo Plat.
ATI X800XT PE - Cat 5.1

05 - 5,878
03 - 12,664
01 - 26,555
PC04 - 4,434

all stock

Crazy^Crisp
01-15-2005, 01:49 PM
God Bless the "Winchester"!!! See what alittle overclocking can do!!! Last week I ran 3DMark03 and got a score of "7771" with my


AMD64 Winchester 3200+ 939 socket 2GHz OC'D to 2.2

Sparkle GeForce 6600 GT AGP @ 500/950 (OC'D mem abit)

Driver Version 6.6.8.1 Stock drivers that came with my card

MSI VIA K8T800 Pro K8T Neo2-FIR

1 gig value ram(CRAP CRAP 3-3-3-8)

WindowsXP sp2

Topwer 480w

80Gig HD

3 Super flower 120mm fans and custom case from Japan


So I did try alittle OCing and the results were very good.. :)

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3591815


The winchester is awesome... I bought my rig last month for ONLY

1200 US$$$!!!

Im pretty happy with that score and dont think my box can do much more... I just wonder how much of a difference good ram would be?

8255 3DMark03 WOOT Woot woot.. Winchester 4 Life!!

After the test my cpu temp was 28c... AHHAHAHAHAH

dontfwithme
01-15-2005, 02:13 PM
glad your happy. dont know that thats such a great score for $1200 bucks though.

Crazy^Crisp
01-15-2005, 02:42 PM
For the money I spent I think I got a great deal.. Cpu's are cheaper in japan and I spent 130000 yen which is more like 1125$ US.. I got everything I wanted outta this rig and I got 1 year service 3 year parts.. Not bad i think.. Also My score is pretty good when you look at the fact my card is only a 6600gt.. the people breaking 10k on 3DMark03 all have either 6800ultra or x800xt PE.. So yeah, i think for the money my rig is good and my score is good. :P

Crazy^Crisp
01-15-2005, 02:42 PM
double post.... ops

T Rush
01-15-2005, 06:03 PM
OK Crazy^Crisp, you have 'coolbits' yet? :)
if you haven't added 'alittle' overclocking to your video card yet...you must get it

http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=201

it just unlocks another page to your video cards drivers settings..
set it for 'performance 3D' and have fun...you have to test all your settings before you can apply them....so you can't break anything

Crazy^Crisp
01-15-2005, 06:31 PM
Yeah I did that but for some reason 3DMark03 is reading my 2d settings... I'm very puzzled ???

I hit the apply at start up and I have it clocked for 3d at 525/950

Why is it reading the 2d settings?

T Rush
01-15-2005, 10:04 PM
oh..right
2D...hmmmm
well dude, yah know 3D is where its at these days :)
yeah got'sta get it going on....
so what's the stock on your card? 500/1000? (for a 6600GT)
I don't know...as I only have a FX 5900XT and it only hits 500/800 with 'coolbits'
I'm just pissed that when I bought my card that there wasn't an AGP 6600!! yeah...so now I just want to see what the hotest $200 card will do


btw...I'm away on work now, in the city of Altanta...NYC is next...so I'm help less, use'n the hotel computer(3.0GHz P4/5200...downloaded AquaMark3, should I see how it runs?)

j.rhy@n
01-16-2005, 01:22 PM
Update...

AMD 64 3500+ Newcastle Socket 939 (Freezer 64 Cooler)
Connect 3D x800 XT PE (Artic Cooler 4)
1 Gig DDR 400
Asus A8V Delux K800 Via Chip
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS 7.1
Be Quiet BQT P5-420-s1.3 PSU
Latest Drivers from www.ati.com

My Personnel Web Site Profile (http://www.multi-gamer.de/index.php?mgd=contact)

System Clocked ...Results below.

3DMark01 26387 Points (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8380832)

3DMark03 13857 Points (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3609745)

3DMark05 6643 Points (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=539548)


I can go a lot more, but need to run the system in a little.

BattousaiHimura
01-16-2005, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by dontfwithme
well i was not calling you out and those links are $hit. you need to provide links to submitted online results to be valid.


those links only prove cheaters. :(

well, here u go...

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=465383

3.0 gig
1 gig 400mhz ram
bfg 6800 ultra OC'ed to 425 mhz
audigy 2 zs 7.1 surround sound
40 gig + 80 gig 7200 rpm WD hdds
aspire blue Super-alien X Chassis
500w PS

BattousaiHimura
01-16-2005, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by j.rhy@n
Update...

AMD 64 3500+ Newcastle Socket 939 (Freezer 64 Cooler)
Connect 3D x800 XT PE (Artic Cooler 4)
1 Gig DDR 400
Asus A8V Delux K800 Via Chip
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS 7.1
Be Quiet BQT P5-420-s1.3 PSU
Latest Drivers from www.ati.com

3DMark05 6455 Points (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=470084)

3DMark01 24859 Points (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8362144)

3DMark03 13589 Points (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3575489)

I can go a lot more, but need to run the system in a little.

damn...im thinking about the X850 XT PE....maybe when i upgrade to PCI-E
(ill just sell my 6800 ultra OC to my friend for $500)

BattousaiHimura
01-16-2005, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by Crazy^Crisp
For the money I spent I think I got a great deal.. Cpu's are cheaper in japan and I spent 130000 yen which is more like 1125$ US.. I got everything I wanted outta this rig and I got 1 year service 3 year parts.. Not bad i think.. Also My score is pretty good when you look at the fact my card is only a 6600gt.. the people breaking 10k on 3DMark03 all have either 6800ultra or x800xt PE.. So yeah, i think for the money my rig is good and my score is good. :P

yep...but im still looking to OC my 6800 ultra even further... it should be able to take the heat!

hAiduZ
01-16-2005, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by Crazy^Crisp


The winchester is awesome... I bought my rig last month for ONLY

1200 US$$$!!!

I've spent $200 less than you and got a better score :D My links are back somewhere, I tried overclocking to 2.1GHZ and reached 9k!!! AHA to that. Only difference mine runs way hotter than 28C :(

T Rush
01-17-2005, 12:00 AM
Originally posted by T Rush

btw...I'm away on work now, in the city of Altanta...NYC is next...so I'm helpless, use'n the hotel computer(3.0GHz P4/5200...downloaded AquaMark3, should I see how it runs?)

AquaMark Score: 8392 (CPU: 5140, GFX: 912)
think they might get mad at me if I do 'alittle' overclocking? lol


at home I get
AquaMark Score: 54577 (CPU: 11064, GFX: 7242)
Soltek SL-K8AN2E-GR nForce3 250Gb socket 754
AMD Athlon64 DTR 1mb L2(ClawHammer CG core) 3200+ 2.0GHz
PQI 1GB (2 X 512) DDR PC3200 CAS 2-2-2-5
AOpen FX 5900XT AGP
Driver Version 6.6.8.1

Crazy^Crisp
01-17-2005, 10:14 AM
Originally posted by hAiduZ
I've spent $200 less than you and got a better score :D My links are back somewhere, I tried overclocking to 2.1GHZ and reached 9k!!! AHA to that. Only difference mine runs way hotter than 28C :(


What you running??

I want proof

BattousaiHimura
01-17-2005, 01:36 PM
..yeah... i built my rig for about the same price... $1200 USD..
specs:
3.0 gig
1 gig 400mhz ram
bfg 6800 ultra oc
aoudigy 2 zs 7.1 surround sound
40 gig + 80 gig 7200 rpm WD harddisks
aspire blue Super-alien X Chassis
500w PS
and my 05' comparisons.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=465383

Crazy^Crisp
01-17-2005, 02:12 PM
Got the 3dMark03 results? BTW ur card is awesome... I only paid 1125$ US for my rig and it has pretty light :P(lol useless I know).. 130000 yen is about 1125 US

CC

hAiduZ
01-17-2005, 06:53 PM
Originally posted by Crazy^Crisp
What you running??

I want proof http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3576716
:)

Crazy^Crisp
01-17-2005, 07:55 PM
Originally posted by hAiduZ
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3576716
:)

Let me guess PCI-X ???

Where did you get the drivers for your card?

What type of AMD is that?

T Rush
01-17-2005, 11:57 PM
Crazy^Crisp and hAiduZ...
some things you two should think about as you compare scores...

Crazy^Crisp paid to have the computer built (and got a warranty)

hAiduZ has a lesser CPU overclocked (@2.0GHz), save'n money and running the RAM much faster (225MHz is PC 3600 speeds) giving higher scores

Crazy^Crisp is running at stock speeds, if the Winchester was overclocked the CPU scores would go way past hAiduZ's 2 point lead (at 225MHz that CPU would hit 2.4GHz and still could go higher)

hAiduZ is running the 6600GT at higher core and mem MHz's and use'n higher version drivers, that can give the 800 point lead easy.

Crazy^Crisp paid $200 more for a stronger computer

hAiduZ did more with less

BattousaiHimura is use'n an Intel, but got $500 video card to make up for it

( get drivers here http://downloads.guru3d.com/ )

T Rush
01-18-2005, 02:04 AM
could someone try HOC for me (as I wont be home and on my computer for 2 more weeks)

you need to have HL2 installed

"This is a new program that allows you to benchmark your system with today’s most popular FPS-game, Half-Life 2. The program does not modify any registry-entries or configuration files, so it is completely safe to use. It contains 5 built in demos; you can set filtering methods, resolutions and much much more.

You'll notice a few Guru3D.com timedemo's inside this software!"

http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=927

Warhorse
01-18-2005, 09:29 AM
Heres my scores.
---
3DMark03 - 12.977
-
AquaMark - 63.475
-
Doom 3 timedemo with High detail (1280x1024, 4xAA and 16xAF) 72.1fps
-
Half Life 2 stress test maxed out with reflect all (1024x768, 4xAA and 16xAF) 128.94fps
---
HOC test scores.
Global image quality via drivers = High Quality.
AA/AF = Application controlled.
Vsync = Off.
--
Resolution: 1280×1024
Demo: HardwareOC - d3c171
Detail: Maximum quality (& Reflect all)
Antialising mode: 4×
Filtering mode: Anisotropic 16×
Hardware DirectX level: DirectX 9
Heapsize: 256mb
Score = 52.4 FPS

Resolution: 1280×1024
Demo: HardwareOC - Coast
Detail: Maximum quality (& Reflect all)
Antialising mode: 4×
Filtering mode: Anisotropic 16×
Hardware DirectX level: DirectX 9
Heapsize: 256mb
Score = 63.9 FPS

Resolution: 1280×1024
Demo: Guru3D - demo4
Detail: Maximum quality (& Reflect all)
Antialising mode: 4×
Filtering mode: Anisotropic 16×
Hardware DirectX level: DirectX 9
Heapsize: 256mb
Score = 117.0 FPS

Resolution: 1280×1024
Demo: Guru3D - demo5
Detail: Maximum quality (& Reflect all)
Antialising mode: 4×
Filtering mode: Anisotropic 16×
Hardware DirectX level: DirectX 9
Heapsize: 256mb
Score = 95.2 FPS

Resolution: 1280×1024
Demo: Guru3D - demo6
Detail: Maximum quality (& Reflect all)
Antialising mode: 4×
Filtering mode: Anisotropic 16×
Hardware DirectX level: DirectX 9
Heapsize: 256mb
Score = 98.5 FPS
---
My Rig,
2.4b P4 @ 3.230ghz,
1 gig ddr400 ram,
6800GT @ 410/1200,
Drivers 65.73's.

Rohirrim
01-18-2005, 09:46 AM
my new results with an gigabyte gf6600gt@500/1000
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=478347 << just the 3dmark05 result
i think ist ok , not the best but ok

CrazybeanswEggs
01-18-2005, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by j.rhy@n
Update...

AMD 64 3500+ Newcastle Socket 939 (Freezer 64 Cooler)
Connect 3D x800 XT PE (Artic Cooler 4)
1 Gig DDR 400
Asus A8V Delux K800 Via Chip
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS 7.1
Be Quiet BQT P5-420-s1.3 PSU
Latest Drivers from www.ati.com

3DMark05 6455 Points (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=470084)

3DMark01 24859 Points (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8362144)

3DMark03 13589 Points (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3575489)

I can go a lot more, but need to run the system in a little.
I'm in third place now for 3dmark 05 :) (of the submitted results)

BattousaiHimura
01-18-2005, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by T Rush
Crazy^Crisp and hAiduZ...
some things you two should think about as you compare scores...

Crazy^Crisp paid to have the computer built (and got a warranty)

hAiduZ has a lesser CPU overclocked (@2.0GHz), save'n money and running the RAM much faster (225MHz is PC 3600 speeds) giving higher scores

Crazy^Crisp is running at stock speeds, if the Winchester was overclocked the CPU scores would go way past hAiduZ's 2 point lead (at 225MHz that CPU would hit 2.4GHz and still could go higher)

hAiduZ is running the 6600GT at higher core and mem MHz's and use'n higher version drivers, that can give the 800 point lead easy.

Crazy^Crisp paid $200 more for a stronger computer

hAiduZ did more with less

BattousaiHimura is use'n an Intel, but got $500 video card to make up for it

( get drivers here http://downloads.guru3d.com/ )

???! ;) just joking m8, everyone has their preferences... but i think, if i trade in my 6800 ultra OC for a x800XT PE, i think it would work pretty nicely! (ati works better with direct3d, and most games use that.)

BattousaiHimura
01-18-2005, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by Crazy^Crisp
Got the 3dMark03 results? BTW ur card is awesome... I only paid 1125$ US for my rig and it has pretty light :P(lol useless I know).. 130000 yen is about 1125 US

CC

not yet, but ill get em soon... maybe when finals are over.

hAiduZ
01-18-2005, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by Crazy^Crisp
Let me guess PCI-X ???

Where did you get the drivers for your card?

What type of AMD is that?
No, AGP. PCI-X and AGP are practically the same.

http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=941
They got even newer ones now, like 5 different 70s drivers, im not testing them all tho hehe.

AMD 64 3000+ Winchster Core socket 939 with a Venus 12, soon to be XP-90 cos my Venus is failing...

8766 3Dmark03 with the official drivers. And stock CPU speeds.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3600604

j.rhy@n
01-20-2005, 09:52 PM
Just updated my scores..



3DMark01 26287 Points (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8380832)

3DMark03 13857 Points (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3609745)

3DMark05 6599 Points (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=499796)


________________________

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ATW
01-21-2005, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by j.rhy@n
Just updated my scores..



3DMark01 26287 Points (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8380832)

3DMark03 13857 Points (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3609745)

3DMark05 6599 Points (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=499796)


________________________

My Personnel Web Site Profile (http://www.multi-gamer.de/modules.php?name=vwar&file=member&action=profile&memberid=1)

If your '01 was also run at 610/613 then you've got a problem somewhere...mine completely stock (cpu ad gpu) outscores that.

11Bravo
01-21-2005, 05:34 PM
This is the best I can do with an out dates vid card (4 pixel pipes).

P4 2.4
Aopen Mb AXS4SPE-UN
533mHz fsb
Corsair XMS PC-3200 (2x512)
WD 80 Gig S-ATA 7200 rpm
FX 5700 Ultra OC'd to 522mHz/1.04gHz

3dmark03 score of 4203 is pretty lame but the best I can do until my 6800GT arrives...lol

3dmark03:
http://service.futuremark.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectdetails&projectType=10&projectId=3614670

j.rhy@n
01-22-2005, 02:49 AM
Originally posted by ATW
If your '01 was also run at 610/613 then you've got a problem somewhere...mine completely stock (cpu ad gpu) outscores that.

Not really... 01 isnt as much GPU related as 05 etc etc CPU will bump your 01 scores up.

Ive not changed any Voltages etc etc The CPU is clocked in % ...

05 and 03 are the important ones...

Post your Results..

Thx

ATW
01-22-2005, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by j.rhy@n
Not really... 01 isnt as much GPU related as 05 etc etc CPU will bump your 01 scores up.

Ive not changed any Voltages etc etc The CPU is clocked in % ...

05 and 03 are the important ones...

Post your Results..

Thx

Look back on page 8 for mine. And no, '03 and '05 aren't the "important ones"...they are 95% GPU dependent, at least '01 is somewhat of a full-system test.

j.rhy@n
01-23-2005, 01:09 AM
Originally posted by ATW
Look back on page 8 for mine. And no, '03 and '05 aren't the "important ones"...they are 95% GPU dependent, at least '01 is somewhat of a full-system test.

Dont know , as I said 05 and 03 are the important ones to me as its Graphics I look for...If you look over to guru3d.com you can read articles with reference to 01 and why its less important...

With different Memory and some tweaking Im sure I can go much further...it might be my Mobo but Im not sure... Im happy with my 05 and 03 results...

But your Article on page 8 is useless with out links... Post the link ..

ATW
01-23-2005, 05:35 PM
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8378619

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3606132

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=330936
- forgot to save the higher scored run

j.rhy@n
01-24-2005, 03:00 PM
I think my 01 score is my Memory ....

Need to upgrade to some more expensive Faster Cas Latency stuff...

RoninCS
01-25-2005, 01:20 PM
AQ3 - 85426 (http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=218132995) :: 2k5 - 6381 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=461866) :: 2k3 - 14259 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3599382) :: 2k1 - 32327 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8356392)

Tearing it up, yo. ;)

RoninCS
01-25-2005, 01:21 PM
Originally posted by j.rhy@n
I think my 01 score is my Memory ....

Need to upgrade to some more expensive Faster Cas Latency stuff...

Your 2k3 score link isn't valid.

j.rhy@n
01-25-2005, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by RoninCS
Your 2k3 score link isn't valid.

yes it is...

Same Link again..

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3609745

Distillers
01-25-2005, 03:36 PM
Motherboard Foxcon 755/760 series
AMD 64-bit 3200+ @ 2.2Ghz Newcastle
1 Gig DDR 400
Powercolor Radeon 9600 pro 256 Mb
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS 7.1 (Does sound card matter? Dont think so but i'll just put it in to ;)

AquaMark3 --> 24,712

T Rush
01-25-2005, 06:06 PM
Originally posted by RoninCS
AQ3 - 85426 (http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=218132995) :: 2k5 - 6381 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=461866) :: 2k3 - 14259 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3599382) :: 2k1 - 32327 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8356392)

Tearing it up, yo. ;)

sweet scores with your FX-55 (wish you would have done the CPU tests) :) and are you use'n a 14X multi?

buy why did you run '03 with a 6800Ultra and the other tests with a X800XT PE ?

and what was your problem with j.rhy@n '03 scores?...he even used "WHQL - FM Approved Drivers"

j.rhy@n
01-26-2005, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by T Rush


buy why did you run '03 with a 6800Ultra and the other tests with a X800XT PE ?

I wonder this too ?

2 different systems...perhaps not his own... :-)



and what was your problem with j.rhy@n '03 scores?...he even used "WHQL - FM Approved Drivers"

He said link was invalid....

11Bravo
01-26-2005, 08:52 PM
Wow...what a difference a video card can make...I went from a 3dmark03 score of 4200 to 11250 just by changing the vid card from an FX 5700 Ultra to a 6800 GT (GDDR3 model, 256M). The 6800 GT cost twice as much as the 5700...but delivered nearly 3 times the performance.

Still tweeking some...I know I'm limited by my rather slow P4 (533 fsb) but I'm comparable to the AMD 2400 64 bit 800 mHz systems....lol.

Good thread....http://service.futuremark.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectdetails&projectType=10

SpinaL
01-27-2005, 05:25 AM
amd 2400 doesnt come 64bit lol

ZeusH8sU
01-27-2005, 09:13 AM
Originally posted by 11Bravo
Wow...what a difference a video card can make...I went from a 3dmark03 score of 4200 to 11250 just by changing the vid card from an FX 5700 Ultra to a 6800 GT (GDDR3 model, 256M). The 6800 GT cost twice as much as the 5700...but delivered nearly 3 times the performance.

Still tweeking some...I know I'm limited by my rather slow P4 (533 fsb) but I'm comparable to the AMD 2400 64 bit 800 mHz systems....lol.

Good thread....http://service.futuremark.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectdetails&projectType=10


hey,thats my scores from futuremark...

j.rhy@n
01-27-2005, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by SpinaL
amd 2400 doesnt come 64bit lol

I think he means an AMD 64 running at 2400 Mhz :-s

Some people hey..

My AMD 64 3500 runs at 2300 to 2500 Mhz or so..

11Bravo
01-27-2005, 03:18 PM
Yea...sorry..I'm not the computer guru that most of you are..or claim to be...lol. Spinal....I am truly suspect of anything you post so I don't take offense to your empty jab...lol. The stuff you post does make me laugh though...keep it up...lol.

This thread has encouraged me to learn more....even at the expense of my own ignorance...lol.

Yea...I was looking at ALL the other AMD posts (of which there are sooooo many) and I couldn't help but noitice just how many ppl have made the transition to 64 bit. I was surprised at the lack of PCI-E posts.....from what I've read there is only a few FPS advantage to PCI-E. Heck of an expense for a few extra FPS...lol.

I started a thread for Intel users....but there has been VERY little reponse...lol. Judging the benchmark results I can see why....lol. Where are the 32 bit users? I really would like to learn more about how to sqweeze the most out of my 32 bit system.

ATW
01-27-2005, 10:06 PM
Originally posted by 11Bravo
Still tweeking some...I know I'm limited by my rather slow P4 (533 fsb) but I'm comparable to the AMD 2400 64 bit 800 mHz systems....lol.

Good thread....http://service.futuremark.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectdetails&projectType=10

There's a reason why your scores are right there with the 800fsb P4's and A64's....'03 and '05 are completely GPU dependent, as I already mentioned, and therefore are basically useless benchmarks.

XianDrinker
01-27-2005, 11:10 PM
Im not that up on things with working and being busy with things, but how does this look?

I got 6181 Marks.. with 3dmark03 pro


AMD 64 3200
2GB DDR Memory 1X400mhz 2x366mhz
2x36gb WD Raptors
Radeon 9800 Pro Flashed to 9800 XT
DirX 9.0c
Soyo CK 8 or 9+

Just realized that im using the generic microsoft drivers for the card as i aint had chance to install em yet.. wil i get much difference?

Wings fury = 173.2
Battle Prox = 45.1
Trolls Lair = 38.3
Mnature = 37.4

cpu test was 455
test 1 = 53.6
test 2 = 7.6! <--was very laggY!

can anyone offer any advice to improve these at all?

>--Added
I just installed the drivers and scored 6325 coool!

wings = 176.6
battle = 44.6
trolls = 38.5
mnature = 40.7

not much difference though?
i also noticed on boot up my ram reads
2,2,5,2... i guess my ram is crap and i should get somethin better, but will it make that much difference?

j.rhy@n
01-28-2005, 01:33 AM
Originally posted by ATW
There's a reason why your scores are right there with the 800fsb P4's and A64's....'03 and '05 are completely GPU dependent, as I already mentioned, and therefore are basically useless benchmarks.

eH?

Then I take it your still living in 2001 ? I take it that this thread is pointed at me and becuase your 2001 score is higher than mine (Who cares) and your 05 and 03 scores are lower than mine..

we are living in 2005 not 2001 , 2001 is an old benchmark and obsolete for most users....

**Keep tweaking**

LOL

11Bravo
01-28-2005, 08:09 AM
Originally posted by XianDrinker
I just installed the drivers and scored 6325 coool!

wings = 176.6
battle = 44.6
trolls = 38.5
mnature = 40.7

not much difference though?
i also noticed on boot up my ram reads
2,2,5,2... i guess my ram is crap and i should get somethin better, but will it make that much difference?

Hey those scores are right on with what my brother runs. He just got his 9800 Pro, installed a Athlon XP 2600 +, jumpered out his MB to get a 16X multiplier on his cpu clock speed and ran a test at 2.4 Ghz which gave him a result of 6120 on his 3dmark03 test.

Yea..my CPU scores take a big hit....I'm going to try a little OC and Voltage increase.my P4 2.4 Northwood is a 133 X 4 fsb processor...I'm getting scores around 30 for test 1 and 17 for test 2...I'm hurting there.

The true test came last night when I played CS:S. I was NOT vrey impressed. I was getting 60 fps on avg. Before I got 30 fps on avg. Additionally I saw some dips into the TEENS on the new map de_tide. I was expecting to be OVER 100 fps in CS:S. I guess my expectations were to high.

ATW
01-30-2005, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by j.rhy@n
eH?

Then I take it your still living in 2001 ? I take it that this thread is pointed at me and becuase your 2001 score is higher than mine (Who cares) and your 05 and 03 scores are lower than mine..

we are living in 2005 not 2001 , 2001 is an old benchmark and obsolete for most users....

**Keep tweaking**

LOL

No sir, but you can keep bragging, your perogative. I'll say the same thing to anyone, regardless of their score...'01 is the most realistic of the three.

DarkCrystal
02-02-2005, 09:53 PM
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm04=2799264

meh comp is way old
p3 866
128 mb pc133
radeon 9800np
30 gig hd

could i get higher without upgrading?

SpinaL
02-02-2005, 09:55 PM
you may be able to oc that 9600

DarkCrystal
02-02-2005, 10:03 PM
its really a 9800(np), but everything says its 9600 :( something wrong with that?

SpinaL
02-02-2005, 10:05 PM
hmm thats the first time ive ever seen that btw i just reached 436/1150 on my 6800GT :)

11Bravo
02-03-2005, 02:58 PM
Dude...Spinal you are full of crap...lol. I can run my 6800 GT at 430/1140 but its not stable...can't even get a full 3dmark03 test before it crashes...lol. Post something that's usable....lol. I can run my P4 2.4 at 3.2 G but it ain't stable....common dude...get real or get lost...hehehe

T Rush
02-04-2005, 12:32 PM
yeah..I need to 're-write' that post on what these test are...

3Dmark01 SE is a older test..but still one of the best..as it does test the whole system..not just the video card like '03 and '05 do in their GFX test
thats why I think the CPU tests must be run with '03 and '05
as those GFX test will run very close to the same on the same card in any system

out of the 5 tests I listed in the start of this thread..the best 'system' tests would be 3Dmark01 and Aquamark3..

SpinaL
02-04-2005, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by 11Bravo
Dude...Spinal you are full I say...lol. I can run my 6800 GT at 430/1140 but its not stable...can't even get a full 3dmark03 test before it crashes...lol. Post something that's usable....lol. I can run my P4 2.4 at 3.2 G but it ain't stable....common dude...get real or get lost...hehehe

eh think what you want makes no difference to me :)

Undertaker[NL]
02-06-2005, 12:07 AM
http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=1829465025

11Bravo
02-06-2005, 01:22 AM
Interesting....I OC'd my vid card and got a LOWER score with the HIGHER core speed....first test I scored a 50832 w/ core set for 435mHz and my memory set at 1020mHz. I lowered the settings to 420mHz and 1000 mHz and scored a 53xxx. My gfx score raised significantly and as before my cpu is holding me back. Here's the link....http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=554398227

Volcom929
02-06-2005, 08:34 AM
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=406797

AMD Athlon 64 FX-53 w/ XP-120 & Panaflow 120mm fan
Asus A8V Deluxe BIOS 1008
ATI Radeon X800XT PE w/ Arctic-Cooling Silencer 4 560/560
Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Edition Pro
1GB Corsair XMS 3200XL (2x512) Dual Channel 2-2-2-10 1T
2x Western Digital 10,000 RPM SATA Raptors Raid 0
Seagate 120 GB SATA 7,200 RPM
Liteon 8x +/- DVDRW
Liteon 52X CD-RW
Liteon 16x DVD-ROM
PC Power and Cooling Turbo-Cool 510 PSU +12V@ 34A
Logitech MX1000 Laser Mouse

11Bravo
02-06-2005, 08:57 AM
AMD Athlon 64 FX-53 w/ XP-120 & Panaflow 120mm fan
Asus A8V Deluxe BIOS 1008
ATI Radeon X800XT PE w/ Arctic-Cooling Silencer 4 560/560
Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Edition Pro
1GB Corsair XMS 3200XL (2x512) Dual Channel 2-2-2-10 1T
2x Western Digital 10,000 RPM SATA Raptors Raid 0
Seagate 120 GB SATA 7,200 RPM
Liteon 8x +/- DVDRW
Liteon 52X CD-RW
Liteon 16x DVD-ROM
PC Power and Cooling Turbo-Cool 510 PSU +12V@ 34A
Logitech MX1000 Laser Mouse [/B]

Wow VERY nice system Volcom...I'm green with envy. What did it cost ya? Guys like you make me wanna go into the PC business and supply you with high performance stuff...just like the hot rod shops for cars. Thanks for sharing your prestine system with us.

T Rush
02-06-2005, 10:33 AM
Volcom929 has a FX-53 on a socket 939 with dual channel DDR

I have a DTR ClawHammer( CG core ) socket 754 single channel DDR

the FX-53 cost $759 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-459&depa=1)

the DTR ClawHammer CG core cost $192 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-443&depa=1)

in the '05 CPU tests FX-53 scored 4668 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=406797) (@ 2403MHz)

my DTR ClawHammer CG core scored 4697 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=248431) (@ 2300MHz)

here is my thread on the 754 DTR -vs- 939 (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=202583) if anyone wants to read more about this

Volcom929
02-07-2005, 09:20 AM
According to Futuremark CPU scores can not be compared unless with the same GFX cards. I do not know why but that is what they say.

Thank you 11Bravo. Some guys like to hook up there cars and some like to hhok up there pc's, as you can tell i am the latter.

T Rush
02-07-2005, 12:56 PM
Volcom929 if you turn up your core/mem bus (from the 200MHz to 230MHz that I used in that test) your CPU scores will be much higher than mine...see you have the killer combo of the 1MB L2 cache and the dual channel DDR...if you compare (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=248431) our CPU scores..in CPU Test 1, I got 2.9 to your 2.3 this was do to my faster memory speed (DDR460 -vs- DDR400)..but on CPU Test 2, you scored 4.2 to my 3.4 because of the higher bandwidth of the dual channel DDR..
..we both have the 1MB L2..

markcollard
02-07-2005, 03:04 PM
i got 94 :(

Volcom929
02-07-2005, 03:50 PM
Well i have overclocked this cpu mildely before and it does quite nicely. The reason that I am not right now is because my mobo is the A8V revsion 1.2 which does not have an AGP/PCI lock....this is crappy indeed but the price I paid to get this setup at the end of August. So long story short I will almost definately corrupt my hard drives if I try and go that high.

T Rush
02-07-2005, 10:11 PM
down load anandtech's rev7_timedemos (http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/video/HalfLife2/rev7_timedemos.zip) <there

All Half Life 2 demos must reside in the C:\Program Files\Valve\Steam\SteamApps\username\half-life 2\hl2\ directory.

To run a Half Life 2 timedemo you must first modify a Half Life 2 desktp shortcut to include the " -console" switch then use it to launch the game.
make a new shortcut and go to 'Properties' and in the 'Target' modify it to look like this...

"C:\Program Files\Valve\Steam\Steam.exe" -applaunch 220 -console

this will open the console when you start HL2

Once Half Life 2 loads, simply type timedemo in the console followed by the name of the demo file you would like to run.

Volcom929
02-08-2005, 02:47 AM
How do you run the time demos?

T Rush
02-08-2005, 03:46 AM
edited that post to say how

I'll need to work with those to see whats up with them...
as I think I am getting much higher FPS than I should be with my FX 5900XT running in DirectX 9 Hardware mode, 1024X786, settings on High/Trilinear/Reflect world (no AA or V-sync)
I know my oc'd CPU/RAM is strong....but my card is kinda lame in this game(default it runs in Dx 8)

ruff_ilb
02-08-2005, 06:18 AM
Originally posted by T Rush
edited that post to say how

I'll need to work with those to see whats up with them...
as I think I am getting much higher FPS than I should be with my FX 5900XT running in DirectX 9 Hardware mode, 1024X786, settings on High/Trilinear/Reflect world (no AA or V-sync)
I know my oc'd CPU/RAM is strong....but my card is kinda lame in this game(default it runs in Dx 8)

OMG! Don't do ANYTHING! You're getting free additional performace out of your card, don't ruin it!

Volcom929
02-08-2005, 08:54 AM
Ok here are those timedemo results. They are all run at 1600x1200 with everything on recommended, which is max except for filtering. Here is a screenie.

http://img237.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img237&image=hl2timedemos0zb.jpg

T Rush
02-08-2005, 11:15 AM
Playing demo from at_c17_12-rev7.dem.
3145 frames 42.894 seconds 73.32 fps 10.071 fps variability

] timedemo at_canals_08-rev7
5341 frames 53.362 seconds 100.09 fps 9.809 fps variability

] timedemo at_coast_05-rev7
3083 frames 29.648 seconds 103.99 fps 12.881 fps variability

] timedemo at_coast_12-rev7
5898 frames 63.828 seconds 92.41 fps 9.093 fps variability

] timedemo at_prison_05-rev7
3413 frames 44.022 seconds 77.53 fps 6.596 fps variability

1024X786
Sound QL=high
MD=high*
TD=high*
WD=Reflect world
SD=high*
AA=none*
FM=Trilinear*
SD=high*
V-sync=Disabled*
hardware DX lvl= v9.0
software DX lvl= v9.0

the settings I changed (from default with my FX 5900XT) are..
800X600 to 1024X786
simple reflections* to reflect world
Hardware DX lvl v8.x to v9.0 (used the line added to short-cut)
FX 5900XT running at 476MHz core / 778MHz mem (not maxed out)
CPU at 238MHz core and mem. (1:1) 2-3-2-10 timings

isn't that too high of FPS? its even higher than the scores Anandtech got with that card running in DirectX 8 mode

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2281&p=1

Volcom929 FPS are lower..but with 1600X1200, 4X AA, and 8X Anisotropic !!!
settings I can even dream of use'n :)

edit-( at the risk of sounding noobish ) how do you take a "screenie" 0_o

T Rush
02-08-2005, 12:14 PM
ok...argh
looking at this nice mouse over DirectX 8 -vs- DirectX 9 of the "canals"...
(look at the 2nd one with the water)
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2281&p=2

and looking at the timedemo at_canals_08-rev7 running on my system in DirectX 9 my water doesn't look like ether one of those shots..but something inbetween the two...
not the 'clear water' or the max 'buildings reflected'
so I tried running it at 'reflect all'..to see if I could get all those reflections
all the reflections turned purple @_@
this seems to be do to...
"There are some issues with forcing NV3x GPUs to run in DX9 mode mainly involving the water..." -Anand

but my hardware mode is at DX v9.0 as it doesn't look like the DirectX 8 mouse over...but my FPS are closer to Anand's test @ DX 8?...better drivers now? ....HL2 has updated to better code for the FX 5000's ? ... I got a magic FX 5900XT ?

Volcom929
02-08-2005, 12:16 PM
Take a screenie in the menu by hiting the PrtScn button aka.F12 with the F Lock not on, in the case of my keyboard. Then open MS Paint and under Edit hit paste. I change mine from bitmap to jpeg to make the file smaller when i save thou.

T Rush
02-08-2005, 12:55 PM
and where will the screenie go?

Mr. Hand
02-08-2005, 01:09 PM
CPU - AMD Athlon XP 3200+, Socket A
2204.9 MHz Stock
Barton Core

RAM - 1024 MBytes @ 200.4 MHz
DDR SDRAM PC3200 1 @ 512 MBytes
2 @ 256 MBytes

Motherboard - Asus A7N8X Deluxe Rev 2.0
Nvidia nForce2 Ultra 400 rev. C1

Video Card - ATI Radeon 9600 XT 128 MB Stock Speeds AGP 8X

Video Drivers - Catalyst 4.12

Jpegs!

AquaMark3 - http://userpages.umbc.edu/~geoffp1/aquamark3results.JPG

3dMark03 - http://userpages.umbc.edu/~geoffp1/3dmark03results.JPG

3dMark 05 - http://userpages.umbc.edu/~geoffp1/3dmark05results.JPG

If anyone has any questions or suggestions just reply back.

SpinaL
02-08-2005, 01:22 PM
overclock that vid card a little even with overdrive atis thing

Volcom929
02-08-2005, 01:22 PM
Well save to where ever you want. I believe default is My Pictures, mine is at least.

Mr. Hand
02-08-2005, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by SpinaL
overclock that vid card a little even with overdrive atis thing

Yeah, maybe I could do that..

Is it safe? Will it fry my card?

Does ATI cover it under warranty?

Would really like to do it, but have some questions..

SpinaL
02-08-2005, 01:26 PM
if you look in your vid card options there should be a thing called overdrive it cant be unsafe or ati wouldnt include it and since its included i dont think it can void warranty.

Volcom929
02-08-2005, 03:17 PM
Overdrive is junk really. Yes it is nice, but for example, my card is stock 520MHz core and Overdrive brings it up to a blistering 526MHz. And guess what there is absolutley no noticable improvement and I get a whole 5 points more on 3DMark05. This is why you should use a 3rd party utility such as radlinker, ati tool, or ati tray tools. Yes overclocking with a 3rd party utility will VOID your warranty.

HL2-4-Life
02-11-2005, 12:17 AM
Haven't run AM3 or 3DMark for a while, but I did get 27k for '01, 13.4k for '03 and >5k for 05. For AM3, IIRC, I scored 72k...or thereabouts. System specs are as follows :
A64 3400+ Clawhammer
DFI LANParty UT 250GB
2x512mb Kingston PC3200 (BH-5, tho my benchmarks were run with HyperX PC3500 cl2)
MSI NX6800U @425/1100 factory OC'd
A2 ZS/MW550
OCZ PowerStream 520W

Edit : Oh yeah, for CS VST, I scored >150fps @1024x768, max detail, 4xAA/8xAF.

T Rush
02-11-2005, 03:10 AM
HL2-4-Life

whats BH5 memory?

can you tell me anything about this system?http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=244130

(everyone- sorry for not fix'n the 'sticky' yet...was only home for 5 days..now going back to NYC...work :p )

HL2-4-Life
02-11-2005, 03:32 AM
Originally posted by T Rush
HL2-4-Life

whats BH5 memory?

can you tell me anything about this system?http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=244130
Well, in a word, legendary. Just about every OCer I know, personally and in other forums, have heard of ram using Winbond BH5. They are like the holy grail of ram....I kid you not! These ram are able to handle higher voltages than just about any other....some hit 270mhz or higher (with tight timing to boot) with voltages pumped up to 3.3v or even higher (for those who have vdimm'd). Maybe you should check out Patriot ram....using Samsung TCCD....these are hella OCers too (from what I've heard). That system looks great - CPU and mobo are the same as mine...but I'd suggest you wait for ATi to release the AGP version of the x800/x800XL....these are gonna kick butt in HL2 and FC. They would also do a damn fine job with D3 and any OGL based game that comes along.

allenjamieson
02-11-2005, 05:16 AM
CPU-Z Report

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

CPU-Z version 1.26.


CPU(s)
Number of CPUs 1

Name AMD Athlon XP
Code Name Barton
Specification AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2500+
Family / Model / Stepping 6 A 0
Extended Family / Model 7 A
Package Socket A
Technology 0.13 µ
Supported Instructions Sets MMX, Extended MMX, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE
CPU Clock Speed 1830.0 MHz
Clock multiplier x 11.0
Front Side Bus Frequency 166.4 MHz
Bus Speed 332.7 MHz
L1 Data Cache 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L1 Instruction Cache 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L2 Cache 512 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L2 Speed 1830.0 MHz (Full)
L2 Location On Chip
L2 Data Prefetch Logic yes
L2 Bus Width 64 bits



Mainboard and chipset
Motherboard manufacturer http://www.abit.com.tw/
Motherboard model NF7-S/NF7 (nVidia-nForce2), 2.X
BIOS vendor Phoenix Technologies, LTD
BIOS revision 6.00 PG
BIOS release date 12/24/2020
Chipset nVidia nForce2 Ultra 400 rev. C1
Southbridge nVidia nForce2 MCP-T rev. A4
Sensor chip Winbond W83627HF

Graphic Interface AGP
AGP Status enabled, rev. 3.0
AGP Data Transfert Rate 8x
AGP Max Rate 8x
AGP Side Band Addressing supported, not enabled
AGP Aperture Size 128 MBytes



Memory
DRAM Type DDR-SDRAM
DRAM Size 256 MBytes
DRAM Frequency 166.4 MHz
FSB:DRAM 1:1
CAS# Latency 2.5 clocks
RAS# to CAS# 3 clocks
RAS# Precharge 3 clocks
Cycle Time (TRAS) 7 clocks
# of memory modules 1
Module 0 DDR-SDRAM PC2700 - 256 MBytes



Software
Windows version Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
DirectX version 9.0c



take a look at my bios release date 2020?!?

T Rush
02-11-2005, 01:49 PM
Originally posted by HL2-4-Life
...Patriot ram....using Samsung TCCD....

yes, I've seen the new 'Patriot' it wasn't out yet when I got the ram I use with my AMD64 DTR
I found the PQI brand, and it uses those new TCCD chips, I'm very happy with it...
got it to run at 220MHz @ 2-2-2-5 timings
and use 2-3-2-10 @ 237MHz
here is where I read about the PQI (I use the same sticks in that 'read' )
http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2235

and here is me 'going on' about my DTR gig
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=202583

those rams are very low cost for 2-2-2-5 and perform with the best name brands

(go a big/o.k. room in NYC..differnet place then I normaly stay)

"Winbond BH5" I'll google it when I get homw..thx

HL2-4-Life
02-11-2005, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by T Rush
yes, I've seen the new 'Patriot' it wasn't out yet when I got the ram I use with my AMD64 DTR
I found the PQI brand, and it uses those new TCCD chips, I'm very happy with it...
got it to run at 220MHz @ 2-2-2-5 timings
and use 2-3-2-10 @ 237MHz
here is where I read about the PQI (I use the same sticks in that 'read' )
http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2235

and here is me 'going on' about my DTR gig
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=202583

those rams are very low cost for 2-2-2-5 and perform with the best name brands

(go a big/o.k. room in NYC..differnet place then I normaly stay)

"Winbond BH5" I'll google it when I get homw..thx I believe Patriot's also know as PDP.....they're known to run at higher FSB with tight timing. They'd be worth a closer look. About Winbond BH-5 chips, you're gonna have a hard time finding 'em as these were from a particular batch that seem to take higher voltage, higher FSB with tight timing w/o a problem....though you're not guaranteed 100% of godly OC, you should be able to get nice OCs outta any of 'em....but BH-5s need lotsa juice to fly..>3v to 3.3v IIRC. They were common 2-3 years back, but I think it's near impossible to find brand new ones....perhaps 2nd modules are available as I do recall seeing members in another forum selling 'em. I have not pushed mine hard as I value them too much to abuse them .:o

allenjamieson
02-12-2005, 05:58 AM
heres my aquamark results

http://www.mypicgallery.com/mpg/Original.asp?GID=443770&ImgName=aquamark-bench1.jpg


what do they mean, and are they good?

HL2-4-Life
02-12-2005, 08:24 AM
Originally posted by allenjamieson
heres my aquamark results

http://www.mypicgallery.com/mpg/Original.asp?GID=443770&ImgName=aquamark-bench1.jpg


what do they mean, and are they good? Can't tell as the link doesn't work....

allenjamieson
02-12-2005, 10:09 AM
http://aquamark.mypicgallery.com/Route.asp

sorry

HL2-4-Life
02-12-2005, 10:37 AM
Originally posted by allenjamieson
http://aquamark.mypicgallery.com/Route.asp

sorry What gfx card are you using? That seems awfully low....but it really depends on what gfx card you're using. Also, in just about all your benchmarks, you're gonna lose out some due to the fact that you're running at default FSB 333mhz (166x2)...not sure what ram you're using, but most benchmarks...'01 and AM3 especially, love higher FSB. For comparison, my old XP2800+ @220x10.5=2.33ghz + 9800Pro @450mhz/350mhz(700mhz effective) scored >40k in AM3. My present A64 3400+ @2.35ghz(214x11=2354mhz) + 6800U @445/1.15ghz (IIRC) scored >72k in AM3 (can score higher now as the score of 72k when when I'd just put my rig together....I think I can do better, but I'm too lazy. Also, that benchmark was done with my HyperX PC3500 cl2/Abit KV8 Pro r1.1 combo (everything else is the same), I have Winbond BH-5/DFI LANParty UT NF3 250GB now....but I ain't in the mood fo benchies.

allenjamieson
02-12-2005, 01:10 PM
im using a radeon atlantis 9600 128mb, but for playing hl2,(this is gonna sound weird) i cranked all the detail and the screen res in game and i got no jums or sound issues, and loading time is about 30 sec to a min! and i got 256 ddram

dontfwithme
02-14-2005, 06:34 AM
Originally posted by ATW
There's a reason why your scores are right there with the 800fsb P4's and A64's....'03 and '05 are completely GPU dependent, as I already mentioned, and therefore are basically useless benchmarks.


this is not true. CPU makes a large impact on scores. if you cant see it you dont know how to read the score. it very sensative and is clearly demonstrated in the game tests and CPU test results.



have a GREAT day! :)

HL2-4-Life
02-14-2005, 06:45 AM
Originally posted by dontfwithme
this is not true. CPU makes a large impact on scores. if you cant see it you dont know how to read the score. it very sensative and is clearly demonstrated in the game tests and CPU test results.



have a GREAT day! :) Actually, OCing your CPU does improve '03 and '05 scores, but not as much as OCing your core/mem...'03 and '05 are very GPU intensive. AM3 and '01 respond a lot to CPU/FSB OCs.....OCing VC helps too, but not as much. That's why I run '01 once in a while, if I score lower than my usual by a few hundred points, it's not a biggy. But, should my score drop by 2k-3k, then, I may have a problem somewhere. That's why I've stuck with '01, it's a very good yardstick of overall performance.;)

pascalsys
02-14-2005, 06:59 AM
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=585761

See link for pc specs. I do think that the score is a little low compared to others. Let me know what you think.

j.rhy@n
02-14-2005, 01:26 PM
Updated my scores..




3DMark01 26287 Points (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8380832)

3DMark03 13857 Points (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3609745)

3DMark05 6643 Points (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=539548)

T@T-2-m0nK3Y
02-16-2005, 01:22 PM
AquaMark Score: 52175 - rank 10883 (http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_search.php?firstMeasurement=10880)

my 3DMark05 score (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=561881)

my PCMark04 score (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm04=2800529)

my 3DMark01 score (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8429811)

my CPU-Z readout (http://www.freewebs.com/tat2monk3y/amd3200specs.htm)

l337x3r1cx
02-16-2005, 10:06 PM
106 FPS 1280x1024 6x AA 16xAF CSS stress test
X850 XT
AMD 64 3500+

X-FacToR
02-22-2005, 02:28 PM
PCI-Express ATI X700 $205 dollar card
P4 3.0ghz Prescott
1gb Corsair XMS

CSS Video Stress - 96 FPS average -Highest posible settings

noob_ass
02-23-2005, 11:30 AM
get 2890 with an oc radeon 9800 pro

Danny M
02-23-2005, 11:56 PM
Originally posted by noob_???
get 2890 with an oc radeon 9800 pro
Whats the rest of you system? Whats the core and mem of you 9800pro?

noob_ass
02-24-2005, 07:20 AM
p4 3.2 ghz not oc
radeon 9800pro core 410 mem 370
asus p4p800se mobo
xp home sp2

iceydragon
02-28-2005, 04:14 PM
Mobile AMD Athlon 64 3000+ 1MB L2 Cache 1.8Ghz
512MB DDR RAM
64MB Mobility Radeon 9600 running DNA Graphics Drivers
Windows XP Pro SP2

3DMARK03 Score - 2684

Is that good or bad?

T Rush
02-28-2005, 11:16 PM
Originally posted by iceydragon
Mobile AMD Athlon 64 3000+ 1MB L2 Cache 1.8Ghz
512MB DDR RAM
64MB Mobility Radeon 9600 running DNA Graphics Drivers
Windows XP Pro SP2

3DMARK03 Score - 2684

Is that good or bad?

Hmmm.....I'll say that "2684" in '03 on your mobile sould be higher
it would help to have a link to your score..and see how your CPU did on that test

I use the same CPU you do (with a higher multi. and a 'bump' in MHz)

AquaMark Score: 54577 (CPU: 11064, GFX: 7242) @ 238MHz
http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=1760962252

3Dmark03 - 6685.......CPU - 919 @ 210MHz
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3288317

Soltek SL-K8AN2E-GR nForce3 250Gb socket 754
AMD Athlon64 DTR(mobile) 1mb L2(ClawHammer CG core) 3200+ 2.0GHz
PQI 1GB (2 X 512) DDR PC3200 CAS 2-2-2-5
AOpen FX 5900XT AGP
Driver Version 6.6.8.1

run AquaMark3 and see what you get

spazm666
03-01-2005, 03:26 PM
hi just thought id add my benchmark resulst to see what u lot think

my spec:
amd64 3000+
512 corshair balistix
2 36gig raptors on a SATA array
radion asus x800xt (ocd) (its da pci express1)

on 3dmark 05 i got 8896 marks
and on hl2 stress tes i avrage 92 fps (i run it at 1280x1024 high on evrythng)

i dunno why mine seem so high like one chap on here has a fx55 and i out preform him ooooer!

spazm666
03-01-2005, 03:41 PM
i forgot to ask are these scores any good? im now downloading aqua mark as i type so il add me score whn i get it down and run it

GAF
03-02-2005, 01:22 AM
My cpu scores appear low compared to others and was just wondering how much diff quality ram would make compared to the cheap stuff which im using now lol, as that is the only thing that i think could be causing it.
Any scores to compare from people with similar specs , ie cpu and mobo would be much appreciated.

cpu - athlon 64 3400+ running at 2.4gig stock.

ram - generic el cheapo 1gig ddr 3200

mobo - asus k8v-se

gfx - asus 6800 ultra 256meg 425/1100

drivers - 71.20

3dmark05 score - gfx 5322 cpu 2907

3dmark03 score - gfx 11570 cpu 568

While using the 66.93 official drivers i was gettin bout 5000 and as u can see im now gettin 5322 using 71.20 beta's just pointing that out as i got now probs with em lol if u wanna try em.

But back to my main question Are these cpu scores low and would having better ram increase cpu performance and by how much.

T Rush
03-03-2005, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by GAF
3dmark05 ...cpu 2907

3dmark03 ...cpu 568


my CPU scores are high...because I run at a higher(overclocked) core/memory speed

AquaMark3 ...CPU 11064 @238MHz
3Dmark05 ...CPU 4697 @230MHz
3Dmark03 ...CPU 919 @210MHz

and I have a 1MB L2 cache 'Hammer core CPU
also I benchmark running Windows 2000 PRO

by looking at your system I'll guess that your "stock 2.4GHz 3400+"
is a socket 754 Newcastle core with 512kb L2 cache and 'single channel DDR' and your running Windows XP
...those things are cause'n you to get lower scores than a "stock 2.2GHz (3500+)Winchester 512kb L2 socket 939 w/ dual channel DDR"

now as far as benchmarking goes "every little bit helps, and lots of little bits add up"
but really don't sweat the benchmark numbers...it's 'in game' that matters
and when you talk about "better RAM" your talking about 'tighter Memory Latency'...I use 2-2-2-5 RAM ...but here is what happens in games(HL2) http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2330&p=4

GAF
03-04-2005, 12:33 AM
i actually fixed the prob i pulled everything apart and put it back together and the only thing i really changed was the ram sticks, they where in the 2 and 3 slots so i changed them to the 1 and 2 slots and my cpu score went up to 4400 on 3dmark05 go figure lol.
not sure if that was the problem but it worked lol.

l337x3r1cx
03-06-2005, 01:23 AM
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3771351 03

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=648285 05

:) i love my comp haha

T Rush
03-06-2005, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by l337x3r1cx
:) i love my comp haha
good runs..what CPU core do you have?

I don't see all that many systems that beat my CPU scores ( AqM=11064CPU (http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=1760962252) '05=4697CPU (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=248431) '03=919CPU (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3288317)

Originally posted by GAF
...so i changed them to the 1 and 2 slots and my cpu score went up to 4400 on 3dmark05 go figure lol.
not sure if that was the problem but it worked lol.
so..you do have a socket 939 w/ dual channel mode on now?

GAF
03-06-2005, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by T Rush
good runs..what CPU core do you have?

I don't see all that many systems that beat my CPU scores ( AqM=11064CPU (http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=1760962252) '05=4697CPU (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=248431) '03=919CPU (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3288317)


so..you do have a socket 939 w/ dual channel mode on now?


I dont think i have the dual channel ram thingy i guess i just had a dickie 3rd ram slot but as for ur cpu scores i see ur fsb is overclocked to 230 lol (cheater :P)

l337x3r1cx
03-07-2005, 11:56 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by T Rush
good runs..what CPU core do you have?

I don't see all that many systems that beat my CPU scores ( AqM=11064CPU (http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=1760962252) '05=4697CPU (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=248431) '03=919CPU (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3288317)


so..you do have a socket 939 w/ dual channel mode on now? [/QUOTE
i got a winny lol... i love it]

T Rush
03-08-2005, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by l337x3r1cx
i got a winny lol... i love it]
argh...your just the man I'm looking for
754 DTR -vs- 939 (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=202583)

HL2-4-Life
03-08-2005, 09:17 PM
Well, I love my S754 3400+ Clawhammer regardless of the lack of DC. Yes, for Sandra, my SC S754 mem bandwidth score sux big time, when compared to DC S939. But, for me, the extra L2 cache makes a diiferentce to me coz it's bee proven in D3 and HL2 CPU benchmarks to be as fast, if not slightly faster than its S939 3500+ brethren. I build my rig for games, and games only, so I can honestly say that I'm pretty darn happy with my rig. Scoring 27k in '01, 13.4k in '03 and 5.6k in '05 help alot too.;) :D

Volcom929
03-09-2005, 06:25 PM
6595 with the new Cat 5.3's and a lil oc'ing
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=659762

riko
03-12-2005, 05:17 AM
3Dmark05' (1024x768 , default settings) ~6100
CS:S Stress Test (1024x768 , all high , 16*AA/8*AF) ~130 FPS

==============================================
AMD Athlon64 3500+
ASUS A8V Deluxe s939
Sapphire X800XT PE@ 540/560 (Core/Mem)
2xDIMM 1024Mb PC3500(433Mhz) OCZ [OCZ4332048PFDC-K]
##########################################
XP Sp2
DX 9c
Catalyst 5.13
==============================================

Btw, Volcom929
What is u videocard temp after 1-2 hours of playing HL2 for ex. ? And in windows ?

Volcom929
03-12-2005, 07:11 AM
I have an Arctic Cooling Silencer on my card. I idle at 38C and load is 52C.

BattousaiHimura
03-16-2005, 09:33 PM
updated.

dunno why, i guess its my Motherboard Bottlenecking my comp, and my BFG 6800 ultra oc @ 425/1100... i guess i could oc' it later on... but my CPU marks are even beating out some 3.6ers!

getting an fx-55 & an aBIT av8 3rd Eye this summer...do u guys think it will help a bit?


http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=680532

T Rush
03-16-2005, 11:21 PM
no...I wouldn't think your P4 @ 3572MHz (~3.6GHz) is hurting your scores at all

that sould be more than enough CPU power as to not cause any 'bottlenecks'

and your CPU scores look great

your video card will perform the same with a FX-55...that would give you the same score in 3Dmark05

the CPU test run sperate...so you will see a higher score there with a FX-55

BattousaiHimura
03-17-2005, 01:45 PM
Originally posted by T Rush
no...I wouldn't think your P4 @ 3572MHz (~3.6GHz) is hurting your scores at all

that sould be more than enough CPU power as to not cause any 'bottlenecks'

and your CPU scores look great

your video card will perform the same with a FX-55...that would give you the same score in 3Dmark05

the CPU test run sperate...so you will see a higher score there with a FX-55

hmm... my overall performance should increase, and i will be able to OC the FX-55 more... Intel boards dont allow it much =(

maybe i should oc my 6800 ultra even more.

Pheonixaurora
03-18-2005, 10:09 PM
I have a Barton 2500+ with 1gig of Dual Channel RAM PC 3200, and a Radeon 9600SE.

Should I be getting around 1000 on my 3dmark05 scores, If I upgraded my GPU to a 6600GT how much improvement will I get?

silentknight178
03-19-2005, 02:38 PM
3D Mark 2001 SE - 10842
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8488645
3D Mark 2003 - 3187
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3750840
PC Mark 2004 - 3244
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm04=2875074

AMD Athlon XP 2800+ 2.09ghz
Barton Core
Micro Tech and 1 generic, ddr333 pc2700, CAS latency 2.5 , 1024mb
ABIT VA-10/VA-11
Gigabyte Geforce FX 5700 256mb OC'd at 480/600
Forceware 76.10 Beta Drivers

h4h4
03-19-2005, 09:15 PM
Aquamark3
http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=689737967

3DMark2001
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8489127

CPU: P4 3.06 133.3 FSB
RAM: Samsung DDR-SDRAM 512mb (2x256mb)
Motherboard: MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL, SiS SiS648 rev. 50
Video card: Nvidia FX5700 128mb

I think my results are really bad :s, plz tell me what i can do to make them better.

ZeusH8sU
03-20-2005, 06:08 AM
amd 2800 xp
1gb mushlin memory
9600 non pro @445/235


3d mark 01 12240
http://service.futuremark.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectdetails&projectType=6&projectId=8436095

3dmark 03
3d=3135
cpu=406
http://service.futuremark.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectdetails&projectType=10&projectId=3530631

pc mark 04 4010
http://service.futuremark.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectdetails&projectType=11&projectId=2872202


update
3dmark03
3d=3212
http://service.futuremark.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectdetails&projectType=10&projectId=3821662

ZeusH8sU
03-20-2005, 06:11 AM
CPU: P4 3.06 133.3 FSB
RAM: Samsung DDR-SDRAM 512mb (2x256mb)
Motherboard: MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL, SiS SiS648 rev. 50
Video card: Nvidia FX5700 128mb

I think my results are really bad :s, plz tell me what i can do to make them better. [/B][/QUOTE]


Upgrade your video card,expand memory to 1 gb,you can also try to bump your fsb up a little higher

Sk8erian
03-21-2005, 06:26 PM
|Mobo| A8N-SLI Deluxe
|CPU| AMD FX-55 cooled with AS5 and Zalman CNPS 7700 Cu
|Power Supply| PC Power & Cooling TurboCool 510 SLI
|Graphics| x2 XFX 6800 Ultra--SLI
|Monitor| ViewSonic 20.1 inch LCD
|Ram| x4 512mb's (2048 MB) PC3200 DDR400
|Harddrives| x2 74.4 GB Western Digital Raptors--RAID 0
|Sound Card| Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum
|CD/DVD| NEC 16X Double Layer DVD±RW Drive
|Case| MGE Quantum with 5 (x2 80mm/x3 92mm) neon lit fans, LED Readout with Fan Control, Temperature, and Date/Time
|OS| Windows XP Professional w/ SP2
|Keyboard/Mouse| Logitech Elite Keyboard/Microsoft IntelliMouse 3.0

Only did 3DMark05 benchmark.

3DMark05: 10044 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=656237)

T Rush
03-21-2005, 07:32 PM
10K!

thats Beautiful

hmmm...but what do you score with only one card?

as doesn't SLI only give better FPS at high rez.s?

BattousaiHimura
03-22-2005, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by Sk8erian
|Mobo| A8N-SLI Deluxe
|CPU| AMD FX-55 cooled with AS5 and Zalman CNPS 7700 Cu
|Power Supply| PC Power & Cooling TurboCool 510 SLI
|Graphics| x2 XFX 6800 Ultra--SLI
|Monitor| ViewSonic 20.1 inch LCD
|Ram| x4 512mb's (2048 MB) PC3200 DDR400
|Harddrives| x2 74.4 GB Western Digital Raptors--RAID 0
|Sound Card| Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum
|CD/DVD| NEC 16X Double Layer DVD±RW Drive
|Case| MGE Quantum with 5 (x2 80mm/x3 92mm) neon lit fans, LED Readout with Fan Control, Temperature, and Date/Time
|OS| Windows XP Professional w/ SP2
|Keyboard/Mouse| Logitech Elite Keyboard/Microsoft IntelliMouse 3.0

Only did 3DMark05 benchmark.

3DMark05: 10044 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=656237)

wow.
that is crazy.

but, i noticed your FX-55 was just a tad faster than my OC'ed 3.0 @ 3.5?

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=680532

i was hoping an FX-55 would blow mine out of the water... =( (i was planning to get one)

Sk8erian
03-22-2005, 04:11 PM
Actually, on this test...my FX-55 has a lower score than a previous test I did, but the graphics are better on this one.

Since 3DMark scores are based on graphics...I posted the higher of the two, which unfortunately is the lower of the CPU scores.

My CPU score on an earlier test was 5356 CPUMarks.