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ASecondOpinion
11-14-2011, 04:35 PM
Currently sitting on a 512MB NVidia GeForce 9600 GSO.

Gets the job done... for most games, but I'm looking to upgrade it with something that packs a little more oomph. Looking at a price range of around ~60.

I found this on eBuyer (http://www.ebuyer.com/266983-asus-hd-6770-1gb-gddr5-direct-cu-dvi-vga-hdmi-pci-e-graphics-eah6770-dc-2di-1gd5), but 80 or so is getting a bit high for my liking.
But is that card worth it? Or do any of you have any better cards in mind? :)

Thanks in advance!

skippy72294
11-14-2011, 04:41 PM
What games are you trying to play and at what resolution?

ASecondOpinion
11-14-2011, 04:45 PM
What games are you trying to play and at what resolution?

1920x1080.

I suppose my most "beefy" game at the moment is probably Skyrim (which I currently play on Low, but on 1920x1080). Some other heavy games I have include GTA IV and Sonic Generations, though.

skippy72294
11-14-2011, 04:57 PM
1920x1080.

I suppose my most "beefy" game at the moment is probably Skyrim (which I currently play on Low, but on 1920x1080). Some other heavy games I have include GTA IV and Sonic Generations, though.

I would personally save and get something better than a 6770. I'd recommend something like... say...a 6850 or better.

ASecondOpinion
11-14-2011, 05:00 PM
Would the difference in performance between the 6770 and the 6850 be that big, though... As in, 40 "big"? Because it's quite the leap.

That's probably quite a stupid question to you; sorry! :p

Joe521
11-14-2011, 05:01 PM
Geforce GT 440 1GB GDDR5, cheap price, GREAT performance, plus NVIDIA let's for force on Ambient Occlusion for some games in it's control panel, and even if you don't use that you can run a bunch of games at 16X or 16XQ AA without a problem as well as the highest AA Transparency level.

Milkomeda
11-14-2011, 05:07 PM
1920x1080.

I suppose my most "beefy" game at the moment is probably Skyrim (which I currently play on Low, but on 1920x1080). Some other heavy games I have include GTA IV and Sonic Generations, though.

To reliably play Sonic Generations at around 1920x1200 at high settings you would need a HD5850 or the Nvidia equal to that.

I wouldnt recommend getting the HD6770 or HD6850 because infact even the HD5870 will outperform the both for the most part. Get a HD6870 or greater if you want a beefy card.

skippy72294
11-14-2011, 05:08 PM
Would the difference in performance between the 6770 and the 6850 be that big, though... As in, 40 "big"? Because it's quite the leap.

That's probably quite a stupid question to you; sorry! :p

Yep, it's a step up, and the 6850 is basically an underclocked 6870 for the most part. And let me tell you, the 6870 rocks. Or get the GT440 as Joe said, although I believe the 6850 is a bit better than the GT440.

ASecondOpinion
11-14-2011, 05:13 PM
HD5850 or the Nvidia equal to that.
What would be the NVidia equivilent to that, please? :)

Yep, it's a step up, and the 6850 is basically an underclocked 6870 for the most part. And let me tell you, the 6870 rocks. Or get the GT440 as Joe said, although I believe the 6850 is a bit better than the GT440.

GT440 is quite a bit (lot) cheaper than the 6850. Would it still perform pretty damn nicely? :)
I know price isn't a factor, really, but it's the only thing my unintelligent brain can go by!



Also, thanks for all of your help, you lot. +rep for all ;)

Milkomeda
11-14-2011, 05:15 PM
What would be the NVidia equivilent to that, please? :)

Probably a GTX 460 Sonic Generations system requirements are quite high not the most graphic intense steam game but its pretty up there

Aulex
11-14-2011, 05:21 PM
I would say if you want to have some decent gaming with pretty good graphics settings, save up to 100 and buy something during the holiday sales

Bad_Motha
11-14-2011, 05:24 PM
For games like Skyrim and GTA4 however, I wouldn't go lower then GTX 460 1GB or 6850 1GB. Either of which will be quite a bit faster than a GTX 550 Ti 1GB or 6770 1GB.

If you want to see a good comparison for yourself, look at the PassMark GPU chart (http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html) (updated Nov 14th 2011)

Overall a 6850 1GB isn't that expensive if you consider others like GTX 460 or GTX 560 Ti, both of which are still around the $150 - $200 prices. While a 6850 can be had for around $120. Performance-wise the 6850 is closer to that of a GTX 470 or GTX 560 Ti.

Joe521
11-14-2011, 06:29 PM
My friend plays Sonic Generations on 1980x1200 on a Geforce GT 240 512MB GDDR3 and it runs fine for him, I think you'll be good with a Geforce GT 440 1GB GDDR5. Lol Plus forcing on Ambient Occlusion in games Like Fallout 3/New Vegas, Gears of War, Resident Evil 5, Team Fortress 2, Left 4 Dead 2, Half-Life 2, Oblivion, Call of Duty games, etc, sounds like a nice feature to me. =)

Bad_Motha
11-14-2011, 06:52 PM
My friend plays Sonic Generations on 1980x1200 on a Geforce GT 240 512MB GDDR3 and it runs fine for him, I think you'll be good with a Geforce GT 440 1GB GDDR5. Lol Plus forcing on Ambient Occlusion in games Like Fallout 3/New Vegas, Gears of War, Resident Evil 5, Team Fortress 2, Left 4 Dead 2, Half-Life 2, Oblivion, Call of Duty games, etc, sounds like a nice feature to me. =)

Those are all OLD games and don't require much, except maybe Fallout3/NV (if you want the full visuals), so sure a GPU such as that may be fine for older games that you listed. But Skyrim and GTA4 is a whole other story. They require much faster GPUs, especially if you want to play above 720p with decent visuals above 20 FPS. Not to mention a decent CPU.

Cards below x50 models (like ones below a GTS 250 or GTS 450) are fairly old now and it's not worth wasting money to go with something old/outdated, not to mention cards below the x50 models were never designed with gaming in mind, more like HD multimedia at best. Both of those GPUs (250 & 450) are right around the same performance as an old 9800 GTX or GTX+, which really wouldn't be too much of a step above the OP's current 9600.

Joe521
11-14-2011, 07:20 PM
Those are all OLD games and don't require much, except maybe Fallout3/NV (if you want the full visuals), so sure a GPU such as that may be fine for older games that you listed. But Skyrim and GTA4 is a whole other story. They require much faster GPUs, especially if you want to play above 720p with decent visuals above 20 FPS. Not to mention a decent CPU.

Cards below x50 models (like ones below a GTS 250 or GTS 450) are fairly old now and it's not worth wasting money to go with something old/outdated, not to mention cards below the x50 models were never designed with gaming in mind, more like HD multimedia at best. Both of those GPUs (250 & 450) are right around the same performance as an old 9800 GTX or GTX+, which really wouldn't be too much of a step above the OP's current 9600.

Old or not they require some demand, Fallout games, Gears of War, Bioshock games, especially the one's in DirectX, old doesn't exactly mean it doesn't require much to run, look at Quake 4 for example. Lol

Bad_Motha
11-14-2011, 08:02 PM
So what are you saying? You obviously didn't get what I was saying.
I was saying that even a GTS 450 (you suggested a lower-spec'd GT 440) simply would not be enough for those more demanding titles, like Fallout3/NV. Sure it's plenty for most Steam games (if not overkill).

Joe521
11-14-2011, 08:17 PM
So what are you saying? You obviously didn't get what I was saying.
I was saying that even a GTS 450 (you suggested a lower-spec'd GT 440) simply would not be enough for those more demanding titles, like Fallout3/NV. Sure it's plenty for most Steam games (if not overkill).

It is, trust me, talking from first hand experience.

skippy72294
11-15-2011, 01:16 PM
Old or not they require some demand, Fallout games, Gears of War, Bioshock games, especially the one's in DirectX, old doesn't exactly mean it doesn't require much to run, look at Quake 4 for example. Lol

Quake 4 specs...
-ATi Radeon 9500/9700/9800 series
-ATi Radeon X300/X550/X600/X700/X800/X850/X1300/X1600/X1800 series
-nVidia GeForce 3/Ti/4/Ti series
-nVidia GeForce FX/6/7 series

So no, they don't require a lot. We're telling him drop a bit more now and it will last him longer than if he spends less now.

Joe521
11-15-2011, 01:57 PM
Quake 4 specs...
-ATi Radeon 9500/9700/9800 series
-ATi Radeon X300/X550/X600/X700/X800/X850/X1300/X1600/X1800 series
-nVidia GeForce 3/Ti/4/Ti series
-nVidia GeForce FX/6/7 series

So no, they don't require a lot. We're telling him drop a bit more now and it will last him longer than if he spends less now.

Who cares what it says it requires, you try playing Quake 4 on the highest settings and then compare that performance hit to other games. It's an oddly demanding game for it's age.

skippy72294
11-15-2011, 02:02 PM
Who cares what it says it requires, you try playing Quake 4 on the highest settings and then compare that performance hit to other games. It's an oddly demanding game for it's age.


The game cares about what it requires. Point it, it's better if he spends more on a GPU now (i.e getting a more powerful one), and he won't need to buy one for a longer time as say... getting something mid range now, and buying another midrange GPU in 2 years

Gamebreaker
11-15-2011, 03:06 PM
Currently sitting on a 512MB NVidia GeForce 9600 GSO.

Gets the job done... for most games, but I'm looking to upgrade it with something that packs a little more oomph. Looking at a price range of around ~60.

I found this on eBuyer (http://www.ebuyer.com/266983-asus-hd-6770-1gb-gddr5-direct-cu-dvi-vga-hdmi-pci-e-graphics-eah6770-dc-2di-1gd5), but 80 or so is getting a bit high for my liking.
But is that card worth it? Or do any of you have any better cards in mind? :)

Thanks in advance!

I'm just gonna skip all the others talking themselves into buying more and more and bigger and bigger.

If you step up from a 9600, you will find the 6770 to be a fine card. And seeing that you are already stretching your budget, you will get your moneys worth with this purchase. In this pricerange, AMDs card is the one to get.

It is also low on powerdraw so you should be able to make the transfer without much ado.