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Methodis
11-14-2011, 06:41 PM
Anyone else with decent machines getting pretty bad performance, regardless of what settings you use? I had to resort to DX9 mode with Low Settings to get it to run at a consistant 40 FPS but that's unnacceptable.

On High on DX10/11 at 1900 x 1200 I can manage anyweres from 20-30 FPS but it seems to tank whenever you drive.

On Medium it's the same thing.

So wondering if anyone else is getting spotty performance>.

At The Gates
11-14-2011, 06:43 PM
Post your specs. Also, the game isnt out yet for alot of people. Check the official forums over here (http://www.saintsrow.com/community/forum/viewboard). See if you can find a fix there.

Rautapalli
11-14-2011, 06:45 PM
Exact same problem, game rarely goes over 30-40 FPS, lowering settings from high to low only gave about a 5 fps boost.

Q9450 @ 3,2
HD 6870
8 GB Ram

Methodis
11-14-2011, 06:47 PM
i5 760 @ 3.1
HD 6850
4 GB RAM.

Magix
11-14-2011, 06:48 PM
Post your gaming rig please, I'm now scared to death with what you said I'm not sure my rig can run it.

Core2Quad Q9400 2.66GHZ
4GB DDR2
PNY GeForce 9600GT 512mb ddr3

Edited : Hum, maybe its related to ATI Graphic cards, maybe try to update your graphic drivers would solve the issue, since both of you use ATI and I've seen one on the official forum having the same issue with a 4000$ rig with dual ATI latest cards.

Rautapalli
11-14-2011, 07:20 PM
I have the latest drivers already. And I doubt that would be the problem, AMD seems to sponsor this game. You'd think they would test it properly on AMD cards then. It's still possible I guess, a new catalyst is coming out tomorrow from what I've heard.

Methodis
11-14-2011, 07:21 PM
Yeah it seems to be ATI cards. I've updated, and used the newest Beta SKyrim drivers still nothing. ♥♥♥♥ing frustrating.

Rautapalli
11-14-2011, 07:24 PM
There is a beta driver for Skyrim? Can you link it, I'll try that as well. Can't seem to find it on google.

Methodis
11-14-2011, 07:26 PM
http://www.mediafire.com/?x1odw5itznt76oh

Those where the ones I grabbed.

Live2bcool
11-14-2011, 07:30 PM
Oh ♥♥♥♥, not this crap again. I already had to deal with this on RO2, Brink, and CoD:BO.

I'M TIRED OF THIS. :o

Jigoku
11-14-2011, 07:32 PM
Q6600 @ 3.6 (8x450)
HD5870 (11.4 and 11.10 drivers)
4GB RAM (5-5-5-18 @ 900)

Terrible performance in open areas. 10-20 while driving, 15-30 running around.

If I am an enclosed area, eg inside a building with no view of the outside, it runs at an acceptable 60fps ...

Tried every preset setting from DX9 Low @ 1280x720 to DX11 Ultra @ 1920x1200 and performance is similar in all modes.

I was starting to think it was just me ...

VeryBumpy
11-14-2011, 07:43 PM
Really? ATI stinks in a game AGAIN?!! I'd like to say I'm surprised but I'm starting to believe ATI is trying to get away from the game side of gfx cards. :mad:

edit:grammar

Hippy Druid
11-14-2011, 07:57 PM
Well this is not good news, but I'm not suprised either.
I'm currently downloading, it should be done in about 2 hours.
I am running dual ATI cards, so I will test it out and post my thoughts afterwards.

If anyone works their framerate issues out in the mean time, please post what you did for the rest of us.

Cheers,
Hippy.

Mikey-
11-14-2011, 08:00 PM
More and more I'm seeing day one titles not working with AMD cards. This is the chief reason I went Green last time. Honestly, I love my GTX 480 SLI setup. This is the best gaming rig I've ever owned. And yeah, I could see how this sort of thing would start to get irritating,

Rage was simply amazing on my machine, but the ATI people apparently got shafted.

deepakchopra
11-14-2011, 08:02 PM
Oh hell...It unlocks in 2 hours for me, but please my Radeon HD 6970, don't do this to me...Not now.

Rautapalli
11-14-2011, 08:05 PM
Catalyst 11.11 should be coming out this week, tomorrow from what I've heard.

Hopefully they were aware of this problem prior to the release of the game and it's already fixed in 11.11

Magix
11-14-2011, 08:05 PM
I wish everyone the best of luck, I won't buy the game untill I'm 100% sure my Nvidia GeForce 9600GT can handle it, I was thinking of upgrading to an ATI Radeon HD 6850 or higher, now I will reconsider and look for a Nvidia card instead.

Malmern
11-14-2011, 08:06 PM
Lol,
its running smooth here at 2048x1152 with ultra settings.

HD5850 (11.10)
AMD Phenom II X4 3.2 Ghz
4GB ram (7-7-7-20 @ 1333 Mhz)

Ps. Are all you guys with fps problems running a combo of AMD/ATI cards and Intel processor?

Methodis
11-14-2011, 08:08 PM
AMD/ATI and Intel processor here.

deepakchopra
11-14-2011, 08:10 PM
Anyone with a HD 6970 confirm it runs smooth on ultra?

Also my processor is i7-2600 3.4ghz

deepakchopra
11-14-2011, 08:15 PM
I wish everyone the best of luck, I won't buy the game untill I'm 100% sure my Nvidia GeForce 9600GT can handle it, I was thinking of upgrading to an ATI Radeon HD 6850 or higher, now I will reconsider and look for a Nvidia card instead.

makes me wonder...Why I did not pick up the less expensive GTX 570 lol. But don't get me wrong, I love ATI cards, but this problem was unexpected.

Magix
11-14-2011, 08:18 PM
You can't predict problems like this, I had a hard time with some games that runned fine with ATI Cards but were a total mess with Nvidia cards (Atari games for exemple, Rollercoaster Tycoon 3)

deepakchopra
11-14-2011, 08:34 PM
There are a couple of threads on the official PC troubleshooting forum, hopefully, they are aware of the issue. Damn, I paid top dollar for my HD 6970 compared to the GTX 570. Hopefully there will be a patch soon, or new AMD drivers that address the issue.
-100 Enthusiasm

Hippy Druid
11-14-2011, 08:45 PM
Oh hell...It unlocks in 2 hours for me, but please my Radeon HD 6970, don't do this to me...Not now.

I'm running a slighty similar setup: i5 2500k, 8gb Ram and Dual 6950's.
When you get up and running, I would be interested to hear if you're having the same issues as some others are having.

I've got about 45mins left on the d/l so it shouldn't be long.

On a side note BF3 had a few stutters until the patch, and now I can run it on Ultra with a constant 60FPS. Different game, sure. I think if it's a common issue, it will be resolved with a driver or game patch.

deepakchopra
11-14-2011, 08:51 PM
I'm running a slighty similar setup: i5 2500k, 8gb Ram and Dual 6950's.
When you get up and running, I would be interested to hear if you're having the same issues as some others are having.

I've got about 45mins left on the d/l so it shouldn't be long.

On a side note BF3 had a few stutters until the patch, and now I can run it on Ultra with a constant 60FPS. Different game, sure. I think if it's a common issue, it will be resolved with a driver or game patch.

There is someone on the official troubleshooting PC forums who has confirmed the issue, he appears to have a 6970 along with a 6990 in crossfire. Although he is not running the GPU's separately, maybe the problem will remain for the solo 1 carders. But I will for sure let you know if I encounter the issue that has been blazing through like storm the past hour throughout the forums over there.

Good thing people tested this out, confirmed and confronted it. I would not want to have faced it and be shocked on the release hour. I was kind of eager and enthusiast to play the game without any issues. Must thank everyone with ATI cards for bringing up the technical issue, now the Devs just need to address it. ASAP!

Silva79
11-14-2011, 08:57 PM
Not to troll or anything but ATI cards give problems to new games like 90% of the times. . ., not sure why people keep buying those cards

wazups 2x
11-14-2011, 08:58 PM
Not to troll or anything but ATI cards give problems to new games like 90% of the times. . ., not sure why people keep buying those cards

Ignorance^

Also, they are called AMD now, not ATI.

Magix
11-14-2011, 09:00 PM
Technically for now the ATI cards are way superior to the Nvidia cards, but the new generation of Nvidia is pretty awesome too, I'm not a fan of either brands, I always prefered Nvidia in the past but considered ATI for awhile, now I'm not sure.

deepakchopra
11-14-2011, 09:00 PM
Not to troll or anything but ATI cards give problems to new games like 90% of the times. . ., not sure why people keep buying those cards

Fact:

I built my rig about 2 weeks ago.

I had the choice between a GTX 570 and a AMD HD Radeon 6970.

The 6970 was more expensive, about 50-60 dollars more.

But for some reason, even aside from my research about the card's performance and value, my gut instinct told me to grab the AMD. I don't know why, but having a AMD seemed more expensive and valuable.

Silva79
11-14-2011, 09:03 PM
Fact:

I built my rig about 2 weeks ago.

I had the choice between a GTX 570 and a AMD HD Radeon 6970.

The 6970 was more expensive, about 50-60 dollars more.

But for some reason, even aside from my research about the card's performance and value, my gut instinct told me to grab the AMD. I don't know why, but having a AMD seemed more expensive and valuable.

what this has to do with my post?showing you got money to spend , that's cool but i don't think your post has nothing to do with mine xD

Silva79
11-14-2011, 09:05 PM
Ignorance^

Also, they are called AMD now, not ATI.

called it ignorance or w/e you want 2 of my friends i game with all the times have "AMD " cards and all the times they have issues with new releases.

deepakchopra
11-14-2011, 09:07 PM
what this has to do with my post?showing you got money to spend , that's cool but i don't think your post has nothing to do with mine xD

It means to say that aside from the issues that arise in new games, all the fixes are promptly addressed. And when that happens, AMD cards are the best out there. As for me showing frustration, that is just a normal, It happens on every new game release, but the problems are always patched and fixed within a day or two. AMD for the win!

Silva79
11-14-2011, 09:08 PM
It means to say that aside from the issues that arise in new games, all the fixes are promptly addressed. And when that happens, AMD cards are the best to own.
ah ok , i thought you were trying to show off xD

deepakchopra
11-14-2011, 09:14 PM
ah ok , i thought you were trying to show off xD

A HD 6990 in crossfire is most definitely a "show off" card.

Not mine...lol.

Silva79
11-14-2011, 09:16 PM
A HD 6990 in crossfire is most definitely a "show off" card.

Not mine...lol.

on a side note
did you get the game?
do you need a coop partnaaaaaaa?!?!?!

deepakchopra
11-14-2011, 09:17 PM
on a side note
did you get the game?
do you need a coop partnaaaaaaa?!?!?!

Nope, I am in North America, East Coast, I have to wait another 43 minutes.

Silva79
11-14-2011, 09:19 PM
Nope, I am in North America, East Coast, I have to wait another 43 minutes.

I'm in the west coast , add me to your FL

deepakchopra
11-14-2011, 09:51 PM
I'm running a slighty similar setup: i5 2500k, 8gb Ram and Dual 6950's.
When you get up and running, I would be interested to hear if you're having the same issues as some others are having.

I've got about 45mins left on the d/l so it shouldn't be long.

On a side note BF3 had a few stutters until the patch, and now I can run it on Ultra with a constant 60FPS. Different game, sure. I think if it's a common issue, it will be resolved with a driver or game patch.

Most people have been trying at 11.10, I have 11.9 currently and will see if it makes a difference.

Jigoku
11-14-2011, 09:56 PM
I've tried 11.4 and 11.6 too with similar performance issues.

BC2 Cypher
11-14-2011, 10:24 PM
Wow am I glad I switched to a gtx 580 from my 6970 before this game came out.

Seriously AMD drivers are ♥♥♥♥.

Mikey-
11-14-2011, 10:31 PM
Wow am I glad I switched to a gtx 580 from my 6970 before this game came out.

Seriously AMD drivers are ♥♥♥♥.

Okay, so did Nvidia get a pass again, or is this thing just garbage on the PC?

Installing now. GTX 480 SLI. So I'll probably answer my own question shortly. Oh, thank god, it's installing DirectX right now... I've never seen that before.

miqqu
11-14-2011, 10:44 PM
Mine just crashes during the first shoot out everytime

8GB Ram
2.2GHz i5
6950*2 crossfired

Phazon
11-14-2011, 10:46 PM
No performance issues noted with my HD6970 (Cat 11.10 drivers) and i2600K CPU. All settings at max. I've gotten 2 crashes at random times but they are rare.

NanoIce
11-14-2011, 10:49 PM
my specs:
i5 2500 @ 3.4 GhZ
Gigabyte ATI 6970 2 GB DDR5 @ 900Mhz, 5500Mhz, AMD 11.10 driver
8Gb DRR3 @ 1333 Mhz
the game installed in my 1.87TB (suppose to be 2 TB, don't understand why) 5400 rpm Western Digital Caviar Green HDD. 1.2 TB free space left.

The game run butter smooth at 45~60 fps on my Dell ST2420L Monitor @ 1920*1080, DX11, every video settings maxed out.

No crash, no flickering, no lagging

miqqu
11-14-2011, 10:55 PM
No performance issues noted with my HD6970 (Cat 11.10 drivers) and i2600K CPU. All settings at max. I've gotten 2 crashes at random times but they are rare.

Two crashes in an hour doesn't sound rare at all

Phazon
11-14-2011, 11:00 PM
The only advice I can give at this point is:

- Use the 11.10 driver. The game would have been tested on it as it is the current driver version.

- The new 11.11 driver is being released sometime in the next few days and will most likely contain driver optimisations for Saints Row 3.

- The game may not yet properly support Crossfire. You should wait for an official update to the Crossfire Application Profile for Saints Row 3 in that case.

bryonhowley
11-14-2011, 11:30 PM
Anyone with a HD 6970 confirm it runs smooth on ultra?

Also my processor is i7-2600 3.4ghz
Runs great on my 6950>6970 although I would never run Intel. But it runs great on my AMD/ATI rig. Running 11.10 Crossfire off. Side note I have not had any problems with any games except for Rage(and even that was fix fast) since I switch to ATI with the Sapphire 3850(AGP). Since that time I have had the HD 4850 5850 and now the 6950 all Sapphire. I see alot of ATI drivers suck post and yet have no problems wile my Intel/Nvidia 560ti rig will crash the video drivers sitting at the desktop doing nothing!

OS: Windows 7 x64
CPU: AMD FX 8120 8 core Black Edition : Motherboard: MSI 890FXA-GD70
Case: In Win Dragon Rider : Video Card: 2x SAPPHIRE HD 6950 (flash to 6970) 2GB
Monitors: 3x Asus VK278Q Black 27 : Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB DDR3 1600
SSD: OCZ Vertex 2 3.5" 90GB : HDD: 4x Western Digital Caviar Green 3TB 64MB Cache
Optical Drive: LG WH10LS30K 10X Blu-ray Burner : Mouse: Logitech Performance Mouse MX
Keyboard: Logitech G19 Gaming Keyboard

Mikey-
11-14-2011, 11:31 PM
Core i7, GTX 480 SLI - at 2560x1440. Graphics maxed out.

Silky smooth on foot. Acceptable performance in vehicles - but not outstanding. The engine looks very nice though. Cartoony, but also somewhat realistic looking. I can only imagine that what I'm seeing blows away the console version.

Anyhow, shockingly, I'm now going back to Skyrim.

Oh yeah, and SLI is working.

deepakchopra
11-14-2011, 11:39 PM
Just tested out with AMD HD 6970 & i7-2600 3.4ghz.

Drivers 11.9

Working fine, all at max, no framerate issues as people mentioned here. No Crashes.

deckbeat
11-14-2011, 11:48 PM
I'm using ATI 11.10 and it's really choppy for me during driving. I've cranked everything down to low and still no improvement. on the plane and during the first bank mission I was running near max settings smoothly. ut now I'm hardly getting any performance at all.

Chubz123
11-14-2011, 11:54 PM
60 FPS indoors
20-30 FPS outdoors

Intel i7 860
8 GB RAM
ATI 5870

If not for the choppy framerate outdoors, it would be perfect. It's still very playable and fun, though. Hopefully we'll see some performance improvements from the 11.11 drivers that are on their way.

Geowil
11-14-2011, 11:55 PM
So far the game runs fairly well for me. I will know more when I can close FireFox tho (uploading to YoutTube, causes FF to take over 300MB of ram x.x).

I have everything on max except shadows, AA and AF. AA/AF are on 2/4 while Shadows are on Medium. Everything else is on highest settings.

I get 45 to 56 fps while driving, 50 to 60 fps on foot. First mission was pretty smooth, a very fps drops here and there. Was 60 completely though the airplane mission, after jumping out of the plane there were a few areas where the fps dropped to 30-40.

System specs:

Vista Ultimate 32-bit
Q6600 @ 3.3Ghz
3.5GB ram (1066Mhz, over volted to 2.35 volts)
Radeon HD 4870X2 (the one with 2GB GDDR5)

monkeyroach
11-14-2011, 11:59 PM
Last week @CatalystMaker on twitter said that 11.11 would be out on Tuesday, I'm assuming its for a day one fix for this game.

purplellama
11-15-2011, 12:08 AM
runs fine for me, ati 6950, i5 2500k, 8gb ram, win 7 64bit

Chubz123
11-15-2011, 12:16 AM
runs fine for me, ati 6950, i5 2500k, 8gb ram, win 7 64bit

Can you give a better description of what you mean by "fine" by using a tool like Fraps to let us know what your frame rate is indoors, outdoors, etc.?

tersagun
11-15-2011, 12:21 AM
This is getting a bad trend.. About half of the launches comes with an awful ATi performance.

crispy animal
11-15-2011, 12:46 AM
2 x 6970
i7 2600k 3.4
smooth as silk for me on ultra.

thy_armageddon
11-15-2011, 02:52 AM
I'm having the same issue, strange part is I'm getting 20-30 on ultra but on high settings only about 20-25.

i7 820QM
Mobility HD 5870 Crossfire
6GB RAM

izihbo
11-15-2011, 03:38 AM
The only advice I can give at this point is:

- Use the 11.10 driver. The game would have been tested on it as it is the current driver version.

- The new 11.11 driver is being released sometime in the next few days and will most likely contain driver optimisations for Saints Row 3.

- The game may not yet properly support Crossfire. You should wait for an official update to the Crossfire Application Profile for Saints Row 3 in that case.

11.11 drivers are not likely to be released within "the next few days". 11.10 arrived not long ago - and AMD never relase any drivers just because of 1 game.

New drivers in no less than 2-3 weeks from now. Mark my words.
Crossfire profile - yes that's probably the only thing coming from AMD this week.

Jigoku
11-15-2011, 03:49 AM
You mean like the five versions of the RAGE drivers? Or the BF3 drivers?

And FYI, http://twitter.com/#!/CatalystCreator/status/134750239713280001 (http://twitter.com/#%21/CatalystCreator/status/134750239713280001)

Rautapalli
11-15-2011, 03:50 AM
11.11 drivers are not likely to be released within "the next few days". 11.10 arrived not long ago - and AMD never relase any drivers just because of 1 game.

New drivers in no less than 2-3 weeks from now. Mark my words.
Crossfire profile - yes that's probably the only thing coming from AMD this week.

Actually they are supposed to come out this week, will gladly mark your words.
http://twitter.com/#!/CatalystCreator/status/134750239713280001

I've read somewhere else that it might be today, but there doesn't seem to be any official source for that.

Edit: Damn you Jigoku.

thesilentcircus
11-15-2011, 03:53 AM
I'm running the game on ultra settings at my native res of 1600x900 and it is running 55fps for the most part...dips to 45-50 when it gets really really busy.

Here are the core parts of my build

AMD Phenom II X4 975 Black Edition, Overclocked to 4.1GHz
XFX Radeon 6950 CDFC 2GB Dual Fan Edition
Western Digital Caviar Black 750GB HDD
Corsair Vengeance Blue 2x4GB DDR3 Ram

Here is some video of took of it earlier

http://www.youtube.com/user/vgbandits

AshTray
11-15-2011, 05:34 AM
FPS around 30 If i crank things up in 1680x1050, and maybe 45 when I turn settings down to low 1440x900. Anything below 60 fps is more or less unplayable IMO.

Inte Core i5-750 2.6 Ghz
XFX Radeon HD5850
4Gb RAM

Sigh, seems that a lot of games don't run well on ATI-cards these days. I shall not buy a card from them again.

dnottis
11-15-2011, 06:01 AM
AMD sucks for driver support... quit buying their hardware then.

xboxer
11-15-2011, 06:02 AM
I'm having choppy gameplay issues too. Using 11.10. Damn ATI. :mad:

Auronof
11-15-2011, 06:19 AM
Same basic issue here...runs fine until I'm driving, then it turns to mud...At least I have Skyrim to keep me busy til it's fixed.

i5-2500k @ 4.2GHz
HD 6990
8GB RAM

Tinsel
11-15-2011, 06:28 AM
I know it doesn't help much, but I am not having any of these problems in SR3. It does seem possible to get decent framerates out of the game with ATI cards, I just don't know what is different for me than for most of you.

Rig:
i7-2600
HD 6850
8GB RAM
10.6 Catalyst

I've found 10.6 to be the best set of drivers for what I play. I can play Dead Island no problems, Skyrim no problem (1920x1200 on ultra), BF3 (1680x1050 fullscreen on ultra). Rage crashes often, but that's not a big deal for me as I really hate that game.

For SR3, I can run it at 1920x1200 fullscreen OR 1680x1050 windowed and I get the same performance. Everything is maxed, and the framerate in vehicles is identical to that on foot. It looks and plays amazing.

Scipizoa
11-15-2011, 06:37 AM
Me and nova Terra ran the game last night with no hitches or drops in quality I have a HD radeon 5670, running a Quad Core i5 650 @ 3.2ghz 8GB ram

Rautapalli
11-15-2011, 06:40 AM
I'll try the 10.6 Catalyst if 11.11 doesn't come out today, I doubt that it would help though.

Kuroi1337
11-15-2011, 06:51 AM
Have same problems

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.40GHz
Nvidia GTX260
4GB

kevnb
11-15-2011, 06:51 AM
what is going on over in ati land lately? Im surprised skyrim works, theyve messed up with almost every game Ive got this year.

Doob
11-15-2011, 06:57 AM
Not to troll or anything but ATI cards give problems to new games like 90% of the times. . ., not sure why people keep buying those cards

lol not even close troll.

what is going on over in ati land lately? Im surprised skyrim works, theyve messed up with almost every game Ive got this year.

I've haven't had a single problem. I buy way too many games too.

TheShadowCross
11-15-2011, 06:58 AM
I'm on an ATI Radeon HD 5770 and I run flawlessly. Try messing with your drivers. AA seems to be the most troublesome.

purplellama
11-15-2011, 07:21 AM
runs fine with ati 6950 here.
bf3 ran fine for me as well, didn't try rage had no interest.

i5 2500k
ati 6950
8 gb ram

DeadPhoenix86
11-15-2011, 08:44 AM
i run
i7 970 4.2 GHz
12GB RAM
Nvidia GTX 580.

with 1080p and ultra settings. indoor 65 to 80 fps. outdoor 45 to 60 fps. i was expecting more xD

themendios
11-15-2011, 09:32 AM
5870s Crossfired on High - game is gorgeous as hell but framerate steady at 29.5 dunno if it's clamping on purpose

Nothing noticeable though it's insanely good-looking.

Alien_Magi
11-15-2011, 10:00 AM
I have a HD 6850 with 4 gb of ram

Indoors its as smooth as 60 fps
outdoors (all on low) it's as bad as 25 fps..

Needs a fix quickly

Mysticales
11-15-2011, 10:32 AM
Well with my Sapp 5750, I have the game in Ultra, seems ok.. but I do know the resolution even tho I set it to 1360 like my desktop native, it keeps going back to 12xx.

Whats odd is, if I do auto detect, it wants to put me at med settings.. which is odd indeed since my card can do ultra just fine from what I played last night.

vizionblind
11-15-2011, 10:39 AM
5850 here. 50 FPS constant

Shadowdragon77
11-15-2011, 10:48 AM
More and more I'm seeing day one titles not working with AMD cards. This is the chief reason I went Green last time. Honestly, I love my GTX 480 SLI setup. This is the best gaming rig I've ever owned. And yeah, I could see how this sort of thing would start to get irritating,

Rage was simply amazing on my machine, but the ATI people apparently got shafted.

Have faith im running the third with my ati HD 4870 dual at high no slowdown no stutter no drivestearing problems im specialy happy since the same driver amd 11.10 works like a charm on skyrim too on max setting with just a 1gb card yay.;)

Rautapalli
11-15-2011, 11:09 AM
11.11 catalyst is out, doesn't seem like there are any Saints Row related fixes though.

LeonLionheart
11-15-2011, 11:32 AM
My 5770 allows me to not just run the game on High settigns at 720p, but to record it with FRAPS as well. Seems to be some sort of bug with certain chipsets (speed throtling due to temp maybe?)....

purplellama
11-15-2011, 11:38 AM
i'm still on 11.9, *shrug*

sometimes stuff like this makes you wonder after you see ATI doesnt work blah blah, then it works fine. i built my computer though.
are these other people running anti virus programs or just have spyware or who knows what kind of bloat ware going? i had no problems with BF3 either.

CI254
11-15-2011, 12:22 PM
So it's been diagnosed as a flaw for the AMD 6xxx series of cards. I'm using a Nvidia and this is annoying me, waiting for this to get fixed so me and my bro can coop. :\

EC-
11-15-2011, 12:23 PM
I have a HD 6850 with 4 gb of ram

Indoors its as smooth as 60 fps
outdoors (all on low) it's as bad as 25 fps..

Needs a fix quickly

I have the same issue with an HD 5870, PhenomIIx4 @ 3.4 ghz and 8 GB RAM. 60 FPS indoors but stays at or below 30 outside.

It's playable though, and I am having an absolute blast with this game. But I expected better framerate performance with my setup, which is a year old but certainly should be good for ultra dx10 @ 1920x1080.

Envy23
11-15-2011, 12:41 PM
I have the same issue with an HD 5870, PhenomIIx4 @ 3.4 ghz and 8 GB RAM. 60 FPS indoors but stays at or below 30 outside.

It's playable, but I expected better performance with my setup, which is a year old but certainly should be good for ultra dx10 @ 1920x1080.

Roughly my setup. Same issue. I'm on the 11.11 drivers and no improvement.

Zeronium
11-15-2011, 12:54 PM
crossfire 6850 and fps is never over 40 and is "stable" at around 20-30.
CPU AMD Phenom x6 1100T and 8GB RAM

Chubz123
11-15-2011, 12:55 PM
I'm on an ATI Radeon HD 5770 and I run flawlessly. Try messing with your drivers. AA seems to be the most troublesome.

Could you at least tell us your specs, the settings you're running at, and the frame rates you're seeing? I don't mean to sound like a jerk, but posts like this irritate me. "Flawlessly" could mean anything. Does it mean the game is very playable but not 60+ FPS? Does it mean 60 FPS constantly, no matter what's happening on-screen? Please elaborate more, otherwise your input on this matter is nearly worthless and not helpful at all to us.

BradleyUffner
11-15-2011, 01:08 PM
So it's been diagnosed as a flaw for the AMD 6xxx series of cards. I'm using a Nvidia and this is annoying me, waiting for this to get fixed so me and my bro can coop. :\

I'm having the problems also on a 5970, so it isn't limited to 6xxx cards.

Odd thing is that none of my cores goes above 8% while running the game. It's like it isn't even TRYING to run the game.

Mithos614
11-15-2011, 01:41 PM
The problem seems to be in the "Post processing" & "Ambeint occulsion"
Turn them down to low and it should help alot, it did for me.
I got a hd 6870 and an i5 2500k if you wanna know my specs

CI254
11-15-2011, 01:47 PM
The problem seems to be in the "Post processing" & "Ambeint occulsion"
Turn them down to low and it should help alot, it did for me.
I got a hd 6870 and an i5 2500k if you wanna know my specs

Didn't work for my bro.

Rautapalli
11-15-2011, 01:49 PM
There is a thread about the same thing on their official forums with a Volition employee posting also.
http://www.saintsrow.com/community/go/thread/view/136781/28686813/Terrible_framerate_while_driving_on_high-end_system_o.o?pg=1
Our PC team is in discussions with the team at ATI/AMD to look into the specific issues all of you are reporting. We do not have an ETA at this point with regard to a specific fix, but please note we are continuing to look into it. Thank you, and I'll post again when I have an update.

xD34THx
11-15-2011, 02:22 PM
Funny thing, people get as much fps as I get with 6470M. :D Which proves that there is something really wrong with the game.

shadoom
11-15-2011, 03:13 PM
Same here,

Hd 5870
Phenom II x4 BE 955
12GB DDR3

From Low - Ultra
always 30fps

On low it reaches 38fps from time to time
On Ultra, the lowest fps I got was 29

Somethings wrong...

done goofed
11-15-2011, 03:53 PM
HD 5870
6 gigs
i7 920 2.67ghz (or 4.1ghz OC, it made no performance difference aside from ~3 fps)

I'm getting 20-30 fps everywhere on anything above "low settings" and 50 fps on low settings.

This is... pretty bad.

Chubz123
11-15-2011, 04:19 PM
I just heard "through the grapevine" that an AMD/ATI driver that improves Saints Row 3 performance will arrive soon. How soon, I don't know for sure, but I'd expect it within the next week. I sure hope it gives us a nice, big boost. The game is still very playable on my 5870 PC, but I would certainly like a higher frame rate outdoors.

Chubz123
11-15-2011, 04:21 PM
HD 5870
6 gigs
i7 920 2.67ghz (or 4.1ghz OC, it made no performance difference aside from ~3 fps)

I'm getting 20-30 fps everywhere on anything above "low settings" and 50 fps on low settings.

This is... pretty bad.

Yeah, that's exactly how mine is too. My PC is almost the same as yours.

Hippy Druid
11-15-2011, 04:21 PM
Ok, as promised I said I would post up my experience from SR3.

Installed fine.
I noticed some information regarding optimisation for dual cores in the readme for those that missed that.

Ok for control group purposes I'm running SR3 on this:

i5 2500k (bog standard)
8Gb RAM.
Dual 1Gb 6950's
7200rpm HDD (I do not own a SSD).
Win 7 64bit
Catalyst 11.10 with 11.9 CAP 4

The game ran flawlessly during the opening tutorial and skydiving bits. I was quite impressed.
Getting into the city, I gave the game a good couple of hours thrashing to sort itself out and tell me what it knows.

Now I will stop right there for a moment, and take a step back.

Question: Does everyone experience the extreme loading times the first time you load the city up?
I've never known a game to take so long to load. Except maybe when the ZX Spectrum was in it's 'hey day'
Prehaps the game needs to preload the entire city prior to playing, to alleviate the loading during the game. I really don't know. I thought at first this might be the cause of most peoples issues, stuttering due to heavy HDD loads, but I have noticed people with SSD's reporting the same issues.
Basically my cpu and ram usage is minimal during the loading, but the HDD is going hell-for-leather.

OK, moving on.

On foot, walking about, the game is once again flawless. It's smooth, there are high frame rates, no major dips, and the HDD is not strobing like an Acid House rave party. Pretty much what you want from a game, right?

So it's time to take someone's ride for a spin.
This is where I, like most, saw some 'issues'.
For the most part, it's highly playable, it's fun, and it's fast.
Driving around seems, to cause my HDD to drop vials like Albert Hoffman and start the rave dancing off again!

My frame rate stutter and drops seemed to occur during highspeed drifting around the city, where multiple collisions were occuring or during quick twitch flicks of the mouse whilst looking around.
Once again the strobing would spark up during these instances, but it wouldn't happen all the time.
CPU and RAM usage during these stutters, were always low, infact my CPU usage spiked once at 69% (Hurr) and Ram would stay around 28 - 40%.

Like many others have mentioned, changing settings from low to ultra made no difference. I haven't really mix-matched the display options yet as I really don't think it will make much difference.

In conclusion, the game is great, the cars drive nicely, and frames are smooth with just a few stutters and drops here and there whilst driving. I initially felt my HDD was holding me back in the open areas but I don't think this is really the case here. Prehaps it's the current drivers we use, or prehaps the optimisation of the game for ATI cards is the issue.
Battlefield 3 was similar during the first week, since the update that now runs flawlessly on ultra settings.

I think in a week or two we should be seeing much better performace when either the devs or ati work themselves out.

I will be doing some more testing this evening with the new ATI drivers that were released (Cat Suite 11.11 and Cat profile 11.11 CAP 1) so I will post up any new information I have.

Thanks for reading.

Chubz123
11-15-2011, 04:50 PM
Question: Does everyone experience the extreme loading times the first time you load the city up?
I've never known a game to take so long to load. Except maybe when the ZX Spectrum was in it's 'hey day'
Prehaps the game needs to preload the entire city prior to playing, to alleviate the loading during the game. I really don't know. I thought at first this might be the cause of most peoples issues, stuttering due to heavy HDD loads, but I have noticed people with SSD's reporting the same issues.
Basically my cpu and ram usage is minimal during the loading, but the HDD is going hell-for-leather.

No sir, not at all. My game loads very quickly. In fact, I went ahead and recorded some footage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz9JPdEHYM0) to show how quickly it loads when I first enter the city. (NOTE: For some reason, Fraps decided to not properly record the volume so when I do get in-game, it's very low. I don't know what's up with that.)

My PC specs:
Windows 7 64-bit
Intel i7 860
8 GB RAM
ATI 5870 (11.10 Catalyst)
1 TB HDD

MasterOfTheTide
11-15-2011, 04:51 PM
6950 here unlocked to 6970 and running it on Ultra @ 1080P with no problems. Sometimes I can tell there is a little bit of a slowdown, but nothing that gets in the way of game play.

steveroger
11-15-2011, 05:02 PM
No problems with our AMD(ATI) cards. And I maintain 3 such cards in three of our gaming PCs.

1) AMD 970 Quad BE and a 6850, resolution 1920x1080, Win 7 64bit (on High)
2) Intel i5-750 Quad and a 5850, resolution 1680X1050 Win 7 64 bit (on High)
3) AMD 720 Triple Core and a 5850 resolution 1920x1080 Win 7 64bit (on Ultra)

All drivers are up to date.

ryanl2299
11-15-2011, 05:04 PM
I'm truly sorry about name calling, but this thread is filled with idiots! If a game comes out and doesn't work right, how the hell is it the hardware/driver's fault? It's the developers fault, plain and simple. They simply didn't design and test with ATI hardware because they were too lazy, too cheap, or whatever pathetic reasons they had. If Nvidia hardware works fine, then they must've tested and developed the game with it. You people need to direct your aggression elsewhere and stop saying that your not going to be buying ATI hardware anymore. Instead stop supporting this developer.

lonewolf1044
11-15-2011, 05:19 PM
Not to troll or anything but ATI cards give problems to new games like 90% of the times. . ., not sure why people keep buying those cards

It would be a disaster if AMD folds it's video dept. Nvidia would have a monopoly and we will see no price breaks.

McLightning
11-15-2011, 05:40 PM
i5 760 @ 3.1
HD 6850
4 GB RAM.

A 6850 is mid-range at best. I run an i7 2600k and a 6970 and it runs flawlessly, maxed out at ultra settings.

Hippy Druid
11-15-2011, 05:44 PM
Ok, a quick update.

I have just installed the new ATI drivers that were released today.
Most of the issues have now beem resolved.
There are a couple of stutters and dips still whilst driving around, but nothing like it was.

I still end up having the long load time when I first fire up the game, but once in, the driving is much better.
Overall everything else is pretty much the same.
The HDD is still going off during high speed chases, but otherwise the drivers seemed to have made a big difference.

Note: It's still not perfect, but like I previously mentioned, I'm sure they will address this in time.

If you're still having issues, try the new drivers.

steveroger
11-15-2011, 05:53 PM
I'm truly sorry about name calling, but this thread is filled with idiots! If a game comes out and doesn't work right, how the hell is it the hardware/driver's fault? It's the developers fault, plain and simple. They simply didn't design and test with ATI hardware because they were too lazy, too cheap, or whatever pathetic reasons they had. If Nvidia hardware works fine, then they must've tested and developed the game with it. You people need to direct your aggression elsewhere and stop saying that your not going to be buying ATI hardware anymore. Instead stop supporting this developer.

Your comment is laughable. The opposite of what you are saying is the truth. The vast majority of the time it is user error. However, that doesn't mean that some of the posters here with ATI cards haven't any problems with the game.

And your claim that developers:

...simply didn't design and test with ATI hardware because they were too lazy, too cheap, or whatever pathetic reasons they had. If Nvidia hardware works fine, then they must've tested and developed the game with it.I would love to see the proof you have to back up this statement.

I find it ironic that you are calling ATI users having trouble with their cards posting here about are idiots.

Grow up.

You have absolutely no basis to tell people to boycott developers in general when a problem with AMD cards may be present. When there is a problem sometimes it is because AMD did not take the time to vet the game even though the developers have given them ample opportunity to fix the drivers.

Maybe you should check with the writers of this (http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/11/15/need_for_speed_run_performance_iq) article on The Run's performance on all video cards. The bad of the game that they conclude is that even on PC The Run is locked to 30FPS. The good is that all cards are playable with 30 FPS.

Mysticales
11-15-2011, 06:15 PM
I think we have more an issue with AA.. something common I started seeing with ATI stuff.. I mean I have mine set at 8x.. but yet from my screenshots in steam.. Looks like its not really much at all.

Only thing I have seen that looks "Oooooo" was when it was raining and the street started getting wet, That actually looked good.

Hippy Druid
11-15-2011, 06:16 PM
Ok, more tweaking, and I have found that disabling Post Processing and Ambient Occlusion lets the game load almost instantly. Yes, that's right, no more incredibly long loading times.
It doesn't affect my framerate by turning off these options, so once in the game I can enable the immediately.

I'm still getting the odd stutters during driving on all different GFX settings, so next stop is the HDD defrag. I'm doubtful this is the cause, but it should help me eliminate the HDD from the issue.

Violins77
11-15-2011, 07:35 PM
Same issue here on I5 750 @ 3.4 and HD 5870. Game outside drops in the 20 fps with everything to medium.

I'm assuming it can be fixed because some people with similar setup are getting 50 fps maxed out with my setup.

real4xor
11-15-2011, 08:15 PM
Haven`t had any performance issues yet.

Game sometimes freezes for a small sec, and here`n there framerates aren`t always crispy smooth, but I put everything on a pretty high setting...

Processor : AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955
Memory : 8192MB RAM
Video card: ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series

wazups 2x
11-15-2011, 08:23 PM
Haven't tried Campaign yet but I gave ♥♥♥♥♥d mode a try and I get about an average of 30-35 FPS. I should definitely be getting higher than that.

Specs:

Phenom II X4 955 Black Ed
HIS HD 6950 2GB
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8G
Windows 7 64-Bit

Edit: Video settings set to Ultra.

Zedo Mann
11-15-2011, 08:23 PM
ATI HD 4850
AMD Athalon 64 X2
2GB RAM
1440x900 resolution

I believe I have experienced these performance errors. Updating to 11-11 now though.

TheDaFox
11-15-2011, 08:28 PM
Intel e5300 @ 3.8GHz and a HD 5770 here. I get around 30 FPS as well on basically any graphical settings at 720p. I don't really expect much more but I figured that I would post for comparison.

Zedo Mann
11-15-2011, 10:20 PM
11-11 drivers fixed nothing.

Plushpants
11-16-2011, 04:15 AM
Yep, no love from 11.11 on my 5850 crossfire setup.

Getting pretty sick of this from AMD. I've had problems with Skyrim, Rage, Witcher 2...the list goes on. Bit of a joke really.

Fluffykitten
11-16-2011, 04:49 AM
Runs smoothly on Ultra settings,Vsync off, no lag at all, drivers 11.11, even co-op was smoothly.

Specs:

MS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1
Intel Core i5 2500K @ 3.30GHz
8 GB RAM
ASRock P67 Extreme4 Gen3
AMD Radeon HD 6950

Chubz123
11-16-2011, 04:57 AM
Runs smoothly on Ultra settings,Vsync off, no lag at all, drivers 11.11, even co-op was smoothly.

Specs:

MS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1
Intel Core i5 2500K @ 3.30GHz
8 GB RAM
ASRock P67 Extreme4 Gen3
AMD Radeon HD 6950

What is the frame rate, just out of curiosity?

Doob
11-16-2011, 05:27 AM
Yep, no love from 11.11 on my 5850 crossfire setup.

Getting pretty sick of this from AMD. I've had problems with Skyrim, Rage, Witcher 2...the list goes on. Bit of a joke really.

I had problems with none of those games on my HD 5770. Jokes on you apparently.

Gotta love the knee-jerk reaction mentality on the spuf forum. Have a problem? It's never your machine's fault. Ever.

ronkmonster
11-16-2011, 05:36 AM
I had problems with none of those games on my HD 5770. Jokes on you apparently.

Gotta love the knee-jerk reaction mentality on the spuf forum. Have a problem? It's never your machine's fault. Ever.

I had to play on medium with 11.10 drivers and I can max everything out with 11.11 drivers- Only change on my system was the drivers.

appeh
11-16-2011, 05:43 AM
Hows the crossfire performance with these new drivers? There wasnt anything about it in the driver notes but you never know.

Marwo
11-16-2011, 06:05 AM
Just got this game and played since yesterday.
My rig:

XFX Radeon HD5870 900Mhz (overclocked)
Intel Core2 Quad Q8400 3,2Ghz (overclocked)
8GB DDR2 800Mhz
Gigabyte EP45 UD3 MB
Game installed on a standard Samsung 1TB 7200RPM HDD
All the latest drivers.

The game is running smooth at 50-60 FPS with all settings maxed.
No crashes or any problems at all...
gues im lucky or something?

lordon
11-16-2011, 06:32 AM
I am getting 25-30fps outside and 35fps inside on ultra settings with 1920x1080 and 2x aa, is this normal for my rig?

MSI Gtx460 850mhz OC
Intel Core QX9650 Extreme 3.6ghz
4gb ddr2 ram 800mhz
Western Digital 500gb 7200rpm
Nvidia 285.79 Beta drivers.

I sometimes crash on mid gameplay as well.

Sjeik
11-16-2011, 08:31 AM
Damn guys, posts like these make me wonder if I should get the 360 version and just be done with it.
I'm so tempted to get this on STEAM but I don't want it to be SR2all over again...

Can anyone confirm if performance is good for them?

Live2bcool
11-16-2011, 08:33 AM
Damn guys, posts like these make me wonder if I should get the 360 version and just be done with it.
I'm so tempted to get this on STEAM but I don't want it to be SR2all over again...

Can anyone confirm if performance is good for them?

It's on and off for me really. Sometimes I'll be having a shootout at 30 FPS, then sometimes 11. (When there is a bunch of explosions going off, followed along with loads of enemies.)

Sjeik
11-16-2011, 08:38 AM
It's one and off for me really. Sometimes I'll be having a shootout at 30 FPS, then sometimes 11. (When there is a bunch of explosions going off, followed along with loads of enemies.)

That's unfortunate, what are your specs?

Live2bcool
11-16-2011, 08:40 AM
That's unfortunate, what are your specs?

6 GB's of Ram
ATI HD 5870
Quad Core 2.4 Ghz (Not entirely sure which one, came with an HP PC so I re used it)

Running it on Ultra with no Anti Aliasing BTW.

Sjeik
11-16-2011, 08:43 AM
6 GB's of Ram
ATI HD 5870
Quad Core 2.4 Ghz (Not entirely sure which one, came with an HP PC so I re used it)

Running it on Ultra with no Anti Aliasing BTW.

2.4 must be the Q6600. That's a competent cpu, even today. I guess I'll just risk it and hope Ati releases a CAP soon, thanks

Smertnik
11-16-2011, 09:04 AM
Damn guys, posts like these make me wonder if I should get the 360 version and just be done with it.
I'm so tempted to get this on STEAM but I don't want it to be SR2all over again...

Can anyone confirm if performance is good for them?
I've got an HD4850 and haven't experienced any performance issues at all so far.

rh224
11-16-2011, 09:31 AM
I fixed this by turning the graphics off.

It makes it q little more difficult to play because you have to rely on sound to figure out what you are doing and where your enemies are but at least the game doesn't run slowly anymore.

Auronof
11-16-2011, 09:33 AM
Damn guys, posts like these make me wonder if I should get the 360 version and just be done with it.
I'm so tempted to get this on STEAM but I don't want it to be SR2all over again...

Can anyone confirm if performance is good for them?

I can't confirm good performance for me unfortunately, but here's a video of the weird choppiness/stuttering I get to give you an idea of what some of us are dealing with.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ2T7VuWXvs

i5 2500k @ 4.2 GHz (OC)
XFX Radeon HD 6990 @ 880/1300/5% in AMD Overdrive
8 GB Kingston HyperX DDR3
Catalyst 11.11

JimmyMcNulty
11-16-2011, 09:39 AM
I fixed this by turning the graphics off.

It makes it q little more difficult to play because you have to rely on sound to figure out what you are doing and where your enemies are but at least the game doesn't run slowly anymore.

LMFAO.

UnsraW
11-16-2011, 10:12 AM
Everyday I'm shufflin'.

ryanl2299
11-16-2011, 10:37 AM
Your comment is laughable. The opposite of what you are saying is the truth. The vast majority of the time it is user error. However, that doesn't mean that some of the posters here with ATI cards haven't any problems with the game.

And your claim that developers:

I would love to see the proof you have to back up this statement.

I find it ironic that you are calling ATI users having trouble with their cards posting here about are idiots.

Grow up.

You have absolutely no basis to tell people to boycott developers in general when a problem with AMD cards may be present. When there is a problem sometimes it is because AMD did not take the time to vet the game even though the developers have given them ample opportunity to fix the drivers.

Maybe you should check with the writers of this (http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/11/15/need_for_speed_run_performance_iq) article on The Run's performance on all video cards. The bad of the game that they conclude is that even on PC The Run is locked to 30FPS. The good is that all cards are playable with 30 FPS.

User error? Please explain in detail how it's user error? If you're talking about having to go into ini files and make changes to them for the game to run, then that's developer error not user. The user shouldn't have to do such things. I'm not saying that people reporting problems with this game on ATI GPUs are idiots, I'm saying the ones claiming that ATI is to blame and they're going to boycott ATI are. You need to learn how to read posts that you're quoting a little better. And what on earth would you like me to prove exactly, that ATI makes competent video hardware? What, do you want links to graphics card benchmarks or lists of games which work absolutely fine with a HD 6950? I don't understand? ATI makes very capable hardware. If a driver update is in order then there would be issues with many games, not just this one. Why should Nvidia or ATI release driver updates every time a new game comes out? I think that driver updates should only come around when new hardware comes out or there's major OS changes, not every month to accommodate lazy developers. It seems like they jump through enough hoops. I seriously doubt that the developers designed this game with the next generation of hardware in mind. After all, what did they test with? This is a clear case of a poorly optimized game which was released before it was ready. Anyone who pre-orders a game or buys it at release is a beta tester anymore.

abominationn
11-16-2011, 11:04 AM
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T @4,139GHz (stable)
1x ATI 6990 + 1x 6970 (Tri-fire) @920 core, 1400 mem
8192MB DDR3 1600Mhz (running at 1534Mhz due to HT clock)
OCZ Vertex3 SSD 550Mb/s
Corsair ATX1200

Same problems as you guys.
I posted this on the official forums as well and a Mod edited my post adding the following:

**EDIT FROM V-SINGULAR**

Just wanted to post a quick update since I'm still watching this thread. Our PC team here is still working with the team at AMD/ATi and we hope to have a driver solution in place soon. There is still no ETA, but it's being worked on. Thank you again for your patience as we continue to work towards this goal.

**END EDIT**

MeFirst
11-16-2011, 11:11 AM
Same problems and the same hardware as anyone else. Game seems to turn into slow motion framerate when being outside.

xD34THx
11-16-2011, 11:21 AM
Performance issues don't seem to be graphics related at all. I get exact same fps at 320x200 as on 1280x720. Only those high cpu&gpu hog features draw down fps even further, but nothing can improve it.

BradleyUffner
11-16-2011, 12:31 PM
I can't confirm good performance for me unfortunately, but here's a video of the weird choppiness/stuttering I get to give you an idea of what some of us are dealing with.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ2T7VuWXvs

i5 2500k @ 4.2 GHz (OC)
XFX Radeon HD 6990 @ 880/1300/5% in AMD Overdrive
8 GB Kingston HyperX DDR3
Catalyst 11.11

I would LOVE it if my game ran as smooth as that video. That is near perfect compared to what I'm actually seeing, even with the lowest graphics settings.

joelgbg
11-16-2011, 12:55 PM
same problem here, almost to the point i cant play.

spec:

amd x6 1090t@4ghz
8gb ram
6970 crossfire
crucial m4 64gb ssd
crucial m4 256gb ssd

Auronof
11-16-2011, 12:59 PM
I would LOVE it if my game ran as smooth as that video. That is near perfect compared to what I'm actually seeing, even with the lowest graphics settings.

Those random stutters I'm getting can be quite painful when trying to drive between cars and stuff like that...If you've got it worse I feel for ya

Explodatron
11-16-2011, 01:05 PM
Also terrible performance

AMD Phenom II x4 965BE @ 4GHz
8GB DDR3
2x HiS 2GB 6950 crossfire
Hitachi deskstar single platter hdd

Castrovalva
11-16-2011, 02:58 PM
I don't know if this helps anyone, but I'm on a 5970, and I got a HUGE performance boost by going into the 'Gaming' tab of CCC, and switching Catalyst A.I all the way to High Quality.

So, you guys might want to try that - it's allowed me to ramp up my game settings quite a bit with no real loss in FPS.

Explodatron
11-16-2011, 03:48 PM
I don't know if this helps anyone, but I'm on a 5970, and I got a HUGE performance boost by going into the 'Gaming' tab of CCC, and switching Catalyst A.I all the way to High Quality.

So, you guys might want to try that - it's allowed me to ramp up my game settings quite a bit with no real loss in FPS.

That option doesn't seem to be in the newer CCC.

Horsesass
11-16-2011, 03:49 PM
That's exactly why I buy Nvidia cards.. That sucks tho..

Explodatron
11-16-2011, 03:54 PM
That's exactly why I buy Nvidia cards.. That sucks tho..

Yup. I know Nvidia has had some driver issues recently, but they are nothing compared to AMD as of late. My old 8800GT was a beast of a card for a very long time. Between this and Skyrim, I'm going Nvidia for my next upgrade.

Zedo Mann
11-16-2011, 03:57 PM
I don't know if this helps anyone, but I'm on a 5970, and I got a HUGE performance boost by going into the 'Gaming' tab of CCC, and switching Catalyst A.I all the way to High Quality.

So, you guys might want to try that - it's allowed me to ramp up my game settings quite a bit with no real loss in FPS.
It's been like this since I installed the drivers. (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3655356/Public%20Photos/ZScreen/Screenshot-2011-11-16_17.56.23.png)

Yup. I know Nvidia has had some driver issues recently, but they are nothing compared to AMD as of late. My old 8800GT was a beast of a card for a very long time. Between this and Skyrim, I'm going Nvidia for my next upgrade.
I haven't had any problems with any other games than Saints Row 3 on my 4850

Explodatron
11-16-2011, 04:07 PM
It's been like this since I installed the drivers. (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3655356/Public%20Photos/ZScreen/Screenshot-2011-11-16_17.56.23.png)


I haven't had any problems with any other games than Saints Row 3 on my 4850

Well, it's worse for us with two AMD cards in crossfire. Still don't have support for Skyrim yet. Nvidia had SLI support the day Skyrim launched.

Castrovalva
11-16-2011, 04:14 PM
That option doesn't seem to be in the newer CCC.

It is here - I'm on the latest CCC.

Explodatron
11-16-2011, 04:39 PM
It is here - I'm on the latest CCC.

This is what I see:
(main window) http://i.imgur.com/KXtAk.png
(gaming secion) http://i.imgur.com/7fjD0.png

Chubz123
11-16-2011, 04:46 PM
I don't know if this helps anyone, but I'm on a 5970, and I got a HUGE performance boost by going into the 'Gaming' tab of CCC, and switching Catalyst A.I all the way to High Quality.

So, you guys might want to try that - it's allowed me to ramp up my game settings quite a bit with no real loss in FPS.

No. That did absolutely nothing for me. :(

Zedo Mann
11-16-2011, 04:47 PM
This is what I see:
(main window) http://i.imgur.com/KXtAk.png
(gaming secion) http://i.imgur.com/7fjD0.png
Preferences > Advanced View

EC-
11-16-2011, 05:00 PM
Well using 11.11 now freezes this damn game for me. Time to roll back.

Next card I am getting is definitely going to be an nVidia. These driver issues are simply inexcusable. RAGE is still compltely blue, too.

Mysticales
11-16-2011, 05:02 PM
That option doesn't seem to be in the newer CCC.

I saw it in mine and mine is the latest CCC. Was under a gaming tab, then 3d, then had to scroll down some on the right window to find it.

Explodatron
11-16-2011, 05:08 PM
Preferences > Advanced View

Oh, thanks! Never had to enable advanced view before this latest version.

Zedo Mann
11-16-2011, 05:18 PM
Oh, thanks! Never had to enable advanced view before this latest version.
It's been there for a few versions now.

Explodatron
11-16-2011, 05:32 PM
It's been there for a few versions now.

Yeah it's just mine have always defaulted to advanced view somehow. I have never changed that before, and I've always had advanced view.

Anyways, changing the Catalyst A.I. to High quality gave me a slight boost. ~30 FPS outdoors while driving on ultra. Pretty sure I just need to wait for bug fixed and proper crossfire support now. :(

Zedo Mann
11-16-2011, 05:42 PM
Yeah it's just mine have always defaulted to advanced view somehow. I have never changed that before, and I've always had advanced view.

Anyways, changing the Catalyst A.I. to High quality gave me a slight boost. ~30 FPS outdoors while driving on ultra. Pretty sure I just need to wait for bug fixed and proper crossfire support now. :(
Waiting for game and/or driver update.

Castrovalva
11-16-2011, 06:52 PM
Yeah it's just mine have always defaulted to advanced view somehow. I have never changed that before, and I've always had advanced view.

Anyways, changing the Catalyst A.I. to High quality gave me a slight boost. ~30 FPS outdoors while driving on ultra. Pretty sure I just need to wait for bug fixed and proper crossfire support now. :(

Oh, good - I'm glad to hear that. I'm not imagining things! :p

Zedo Mann
11-16-2011, 07:25 PM
To be precise, I'm getting low performance outside when looking at lots of distant stuff.
Stuff like this. (http://steamcommunity.com/id/ZedoMann/screenshot/650997586407776844)

Jigoku
11-16-2011, 07:33 PM
Sliding Cat AI made no discernible difference to my performance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcdkY0_D3CM

real4xor
11-16-2011, 07:37 PM
I don't know if this helps anyone, but I'm on a 5970, and I got a HUGE performance boost by going into the 'Gaming' tab of CCC, and switching Catalyst A.I all the way to High Quality.

So, you guys might want to try that - it's allowed me to ramp up my game settings quite a bit with no real loss in FPS.

That`s bloody annoying, because for alot of games, I have to keep that thing off. Or stuff CTD`s.

Zedo Mann
11-16-2011, 08:08 PM
Sliding Cat AI made no discernible difference to my performance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcdkY0_D3CM
I tried it completely disabled, still no change.

kevnb
11-16-2011, 08:19 PM
http://www.dsogaming.com/news/new-amd-driver-promises-to-improve-saints-row-the-third-performance/

Hippy Druid
11-16-2011, 09:00 PM
I can't confirm good performance for me unfortunately, but here's a video of the weird choppiness/stuttering I get to give you an idea of what some of us are dealing with.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ2T7VuWXvs



Yup, that's pretty much a carbon copy of what I am getting.

What I've observed in the last couple of days:

1) Disabling Ambient Occlusion and Post Processing will load the game almost instantly. No extended loading times.

2) Reapply AO and PP once loaded, as it's not affecting the framerate, and looks much nicer on!

3) Changing ANY GFX options or resolution makes no difference to FPS whatsoever.

4) 11.11 drivers made a little bit of difference, but not enough to play that game the way it should be.

5) People like to post useless stuff in problem threads, which is of little or no help to people trying to discuss/compare issues.

Thanks go out to those who put a bit of effort into this thread. You know who you all are!


...and so we wait!

Zarkson
11-16-2011, 09:01 PM
http://www.dsogaming.com/news/new-amd-driver-promises-to-improve-saints-row-the-third-performance/

Thank you this is great news :D

Chubz123
11-16-2011, 09:08 PM
http://www.dsogaming.com/news/new-amd-driver-promises-to-improve-saints-row-the-third-performance/

I can't wait. This game is already amazing, and with top notch performance it's going to get even better. This is currently my Game of the Year for 2011, even above the other titles I loved on PC this year like Deus Ex and Battlefield.

ivowns
11-16-2011, 09:17 PM
runs smoth here.
i7 870
gtx570
8gb

looks like an AMD/ATi problem again.

Explodatron
11-16-2011, 09:32 PM
runs smoth here.
i7 870
gtx570
8gb

looks like an AMD/ATi problem again.

Thanks for the input. I mean, we knew this already, but thanks anyways.

jollyg2012
11-16-2011, 09:35 PM
runs smoth here.
i7 870
gtx570
8gb

looks like an AMD/ATi problem again.

lol.

i know of two other people who play this game, will list specs, top 2 on Ultra settings, 3rd on high, we all use AMD/ATI.

specs are
win7 64 bit
Catalyst Version 11.10

1st comp
cpu phenom triple core 2.8GHZ
6950 2 gig dirt 3 edition
6 gigs ddr2
1920x1080
runs very smooth 90% of the time.

2nd
cpu AMD FX-6100 six core 3.3ghz
HD6970 2 gig
16 gigs ddr3 1866
1280x1024
no lag or slow downs.

3rd
cpu amd Phenom II X4 970 3.5GHZ
HD5770 1 gig
8 gigs ddr3 1600
1280x1024
no lag or slow downs.

have had 0 errors or problems, hope they fix the issues for those who are having them.

Combii
11-17-2011, 12:28 AM
I lag like hell :(

I have an ATI Radeon mobility 5800 series.

It suck :confused:

Millerlight89
11-17-2011, 02:22 AM
Seems ATI cards are having issues once again. Damn I had nothing but headaches when I had my 5870. So happy I went with Nvidia again.

Land of plenty
11-17-2011, 03:44 AM
I updated my drivers (11.10 seems to be the latest for me) then followed the advice from the comments in display.ini about which settings to turn down and up. Since the moment I changed the settings the game has gone from horrible to great.

Asus N71Jq
Q720
Win7 64bit
4G
HD5730

cyborg34573
11-17-2011, 04:34 AM
Games running 60Fps all the time for me in this rig, every graphic option turnd up (vsync on)

Intel i72600k @ 4.5Ghz
8GB G.Skill Ripjaws x Series DDR3-2133Mhz
2x Sli GTX580 (Asus ENGTX580 DCUII + EVGA GTX580 Sc (Identical clocks set))
-Drivers: 285.79 Beta
Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit

But its kinda weird that the game is lagging on AMD/ATI cards, thought it would be more optimized for them seeing the AMD intro vid and all.

BC2 Cypher
11-17-2011, 05:25 AM
Seems ATI cards are having issues once again. Damn I had nothing but headaches when I had my 5870. So happy I went with Nvidia again.

I just changed from an AMD card to an Nvidia card this last weekend and I had never owned an Nvidia card before.

I'm much happier now.

Nvidia fan-boy I have become.

xD34THx
11-17-2011, 06:24 AM
Well that's just great. Instead of patching the game, they release a new driver. The thing is AMD doesn't support it's newer mobile chips, meaning the setups refuse to install latest drivers and I have to use drivers which are months old. :(

djvelho
11-17-2011, 06:27 AM
lag like hell. inside 35-60. outside 20-35 fps.

RIG:
Intel i5-750 ~3.6ghz
8gm ram
ati 6950 1gb (catalyst 11.11)
win7-64bit

also my gpu is showing 99% all the time. same as skyrim :(
is this normal?

Mysticales
11-17-2011, 08:13 AM
Question, how are you all checking FPS on SR3? Ive been wanting to chime in with my data and settings, cause I have been playing on Ultra with my 5750 without any issues, but kinda wanna give you all the fps to back it up.

Zedo Mann
11-17-2011, 12:26 PM
Quick question: When might we expect the driver update?

Combii
11-17-2011, 01:09 PM
Terrible performance.. :(

Operating System
MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1

CPU
Intel Core i7 840QM @ 1.87GHz 54 °C
Clarksfield 45nm Technology

RAM
4,00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 662MHz (9-9-9-24)

Motherboard
Alienware

Graphics
Generic PnP Monitor (1600x900@60Hz)
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series (Dell)

Hard Drives
313GB SAMSUNG SAMSUNG HM320HJ ATA Device (SATA) 44 °C

darthfunk
11-17-2011, 08:09 PM
ATI Radeon 4870 HD

Rest of specs are irrelevant; this is clearly an AMD tech compatibility issue.

I get absolutely horrible FPS if i try to run it on high in dx11 (as in, <1 fps, and i run Crysis on high at 30-40 fps)

dx9 and lower settings fixes it.. sort of.. not really..
This AMD shafting combined with $25 day 1 DLC tells me to never buy from THQ again.

cyborg34573
11-17-2011, 08:16 PM
I dont understand this at all, isnt this an AMD/ATI game?, has the fancy AMD/ATI logo intro video which should mean the developers worked with AMD/ATI in making sure the game worked well with AMD/ATI hardware and drivers.

Did AMD/ATI just pay to get the logo in the game for ads and thats it?

blackmanfu
11-17-2011, 08:42 PM
I dont understand this at all, isnt this an AMD/ATI game?, has the fancy AMD/ATI logo intro video which should mean the developers worked with AMD/ATI in making sure the game worked well with AMD/ATI hardware and drivers.

Did AMD/ATI just pay to get the logo in the game for ads and thats it?

That's why I am confused. I thought having the AMD logo on the box and in the intro movies would at least count for something, now I know better.

I'm getting the same crappy performance as many others here: 40-60 fps indoors, but 20-30 outdoors with noticeable and annoying pauses while driving. This is both on the medium and high setting. On low, it's about 40 fps outside, but still has the pauses while driving. I can somewhat PLAY it with these framerates, but it's A. No fun when it's so hard to drive/aim and B. looks terrible.

as for my system specs, I have two radeon 5850s in crossfire. The performance is the same with 1 or cards active. This machine can run Battlefield 3 on high/ultra settings, 2048x1152, at 80-100 fps, so you're damn right it's a software issue.

Cornpwn
11-17-2011, 08:54 PM
Just wanted to throw my two cents in here. First off, my specs:

i7-950 at stock speed
Rampage III Formula motherboard
X-fired HD 5870s
6 GB RAM

Performance is very similar to what I've seen so far. Frames are well below 30 when outside; they drop even more when I'm driving quickly. I wanted to point out that the problem increased in severity when I downloaded the Genki DLC. In addition, I have also been experiencing the perpetual 82.7 MB corrupt file issue since downloading that DLC. I'd steer clear of it for now if you have the option.

Here's hoping that a fix releases soon.

Stylus15
11-17-2011, 09:10 PM
Funny seeing as this is sponsored by AMD, ATi's parent company. :P

Rautapalli
11-17-2011, 09:48 PM
ATi doesn't even exist anymore (even as a brand), the cards are now called AMD Radeons.

monkeyroach
11-17-2011, 09:59 PM
I dont understand this at all, isnt this an AMD/ATI game?, has the fancy AMD/ATI logo intro video which should mean the developers worked with AMD/ATI in making sure the game worked well with AMD/ATI hardware and drivers.

Did AMD/ATI just pay to get the logo in the game for ads and thats it?

I think I am more angry at the fact there is a AMD logo in the game then the actual low performance.AMD drivers and buggier game are getting worst every year.

I think I been in more web forums this year trying to find fixes for every new game I buy then actually playing the game.

MeFirst
11-18-2011, 04:57 AM
Any news from AMD / ATI or the devs yet?

raptor
11-18-2011, 05:00 AM
Any news from AMD / ATI or the devs yet?

Not atm im getting sick of this for every game, i don't under how a 5870 struggles to run this game, graphics arent amazing...

SPYMAN
11-18-2011, 07:15 AM
6950 here, flashed to a 6970 and i5 2500k @ 4,4 GHz. I get terrible fps at Ultra, like 30-35 outside, which is really bad. At high details Iam still below 60 FPS, which is the magical border for me. At high I got like 50 fps outside. They should really do something about that...

xD34THx
11-18-2011, 08:04 AM
Still really jarateed off that the fix will be driver-based not as a game patch. Meaning I'd have to wait until HP decides to include those drivers in their setup. I wonder if ATI drivers are downloadable in .zip from somewhere... :(

stuminus3
11-18-2011, 08:48 AM
Still really jarateed off that the fix will be driver-based not as a game patch. Meaning I'd have to wait until HP decides to include those drivers in their setup. I wonder if ATI drivers are downloadable in .zip from somewhere... :(
...what?

If you have and AMD GPU you can install their drivers regardless of who your hardware manufacturer is.

xD34THx
11-18-2011, 09:00 AM
...what?

If you have and AMD GPU you can install their drivers regardless of who your hardware manufacturer is.

AMD doesn't support 6470M for some reason.

Auronof
11-18-2011, 09:37 AM
Both ATI/AMD and NVIDIA did that for a while. Neither of them directly supported laptop cards. Not sure the reasoning and it's only within the last year or maybe two that NVIDIA started letting people update their stuff directly.

Also...it looks like AMD released 11.11 CAP 2 officially on their site now...gonna see if that gets rid of the stutter for me like it says it's supposed to.

Auronof
11-18-2011, 09:58 AM
Running with 11.11 CAP 2 the stutter is gone entirely for me and the framerate has improved a good bit as well. Hope it helps the rest of you too.

vizionblind
11-18-2011, 10:00 AM
Running with 11.11 CAP 2 the stutter is gone entirely for me and the framerate has improved a good bit as well. Hope it helps the rest of you too.

that will not help for single card users

Air_Force
11-18-2011, 10:14 AM
that will not help for single card users

Saints Row 3: Resolves stuttering seen when playing in CrossFireX mode. Also provides Single GPU and CrossFireX performance improvements when running in lower resolution configurations

ashkandi
11-18-2011, 10:28 AM
Tried it but don't help me, it still stutters with 1VGA.

By the way how can they give us a ♥♥♥♥ like this? Or just look at the ID software guys. How do they test these games, why the testers take money? Why we see AMD/ATI ad at the intro? At my workplace no one let out cars without a proper test and check and i worked as a damn train mechanic guy, not at a huge billion dollar corporation.

Darkphizer
11-18-2011, 12:15 PM
Hi,

I also am having performance issues with SR: The Third.
My system specs are:

I7 950@ 3.02 Ghz stock settings.
Asus Sabertooth X58 motherboard.
Corsair Vengeance DDR3 6GB
Crossfire 6950's by Asus
OCZ Vertex 3 SSD 120GB

Using the 11.11 drivers and yesterday i installed CAP1 and I had the same performance issues as everyone else, Bad stuttering while driving, when walking it doesn't happen all that much. Getting around 40 - 60 Fps indoor and 20 - 30 Fps outdoor.

Now today i saw that they had the CAP 2, so I applied that over the CAP 1, booted the game and was expecting MASSIVE performance upgrade....Wich didn't happen. I can honestly say that it's better now, getting around 40 - 50 Fps while driving, sometimes fps jump up to 55 but haven't seen higher. Indoor is also increased(70-80).

But seriously, how did they let this happen? And I hope they will continue to improve on the performance because it seem unlogical to me that I can barely run this game maxed out on my $1300 machine, Friends of mine are playing it maxed out on I5's(not 2500k's) with 460GTX cards...and they get better frames then me!!!! They better fix this or I'm getting 2 GTX580's this weekend.

WiGWaM
11-18-2011, 01:10 PM
AMD Phenom II X4 965 @3.65 GHz
HD6870
4 gb DDR3 1600

Same issue here. There seems to be a scary trend of poor performance with ATI cards and a lot of these newer games. This is the straw the broke the camels back, ATI..I'm going back to green for my next card. I don't even know why I jumped the fence to begin with...

Marcin89
11-18-2011, 01:41 PM
So, this is console port ?

Chubz123
11-18-2011, 01:49 PM
So, this is console port ?

No.

http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/saints-row-3/1211344p1.html

Hippy Druid
11-18-2011, 02:35 PM
Ok, so the new CAP drivers fix the stuttering for Crossfire users. Nice work on that.
However I still think the performance is pretty poor. Changing display settings still does bugger all.

What gives?

vizionblind
11-18-2011, 02:38 PM
Saints Row 3: Resolves stuttering seen when playing in CrossFireX mode. Also provides Single GPU and CrossFireX performance improvements when running in lower resolution configurations
1920x1080 is not lower resolution

Zedo Mann
11-18-2011, 04:17 PM
Still doesn't fix my problem.
Waiting for next AMD and/or Saints Row 3 update.

darthfunk
11-18-2011, 04:19 PM
FFS i literally cannot play this game; i get 0 fps regardless of settings.. i did a clean uninstall of my AMD toolset and drivers and installed the new profile and latest catalyst.. doesn't make the slightest difference! dx9 or dx11, ultra or low, nothing gets it higher than 0 fps -_-

i play crysis on high with 40 fps; this has nothing to do with my setup other than THQ forgetting to have their game support AMD

n3ko
11-18-2011, 04:45 PM
No stutteting with Vsync and all on medium/high DX11 with occlusion off @ 1920x1080. Frapsing without problems, too.

HD 5770 1GB
Phenom II x6 1100T
8GB RAM
Cat 11.1

Land of plenty
11-18-2011, 07:54 PM
So, this is console port ?

Yes

http://blogs.amd.com/play/2011/11/16/saints-row-the-third-developer-blog-part-1/

"We brought over every one of the features as they were being added to console, and converted them to DirectX® 11."

But they really tried this time:

"But, we also started planning from the beginning to add additional features to take advantage of DirectX® 11."

Zedo Mann
11-19-2011, 09:41 AM
AMD Site is down.
Now we'll never get our updated drivers! :rolleyes:

xD34THx
11-19-2011, 09:47 AM
AMD Site is down.
Now we'll never get our updated drivers! :rolleyes:

Don't they usually release drivers monthly? This way new drivers fixing SR3 would be available in December. I might be wrong though.

Zedo Mann
11-19-2011, 09:50 AM
Don't they usually release drivers monthly? This way new drivers fixing SR3 would be available in December. I might be wrong though.
If they were working with Volition to try to get a fix out, wouldn't that fix be released ASAP?

Well at least it's still a bit of fun despite the performance. This is the first game I've said that about.

Light Speed
11-19-2011, 11:46 AM
Must be the new ATI cards. I have an i7 960 @ 3600, 9 gig of ram, and an ATI 5970, running DX11 on the highest settings @ 1920X1080.

Performance is really good for me, no complaints. I'm sure ATI will get the new cards performing good with a driver update.

Chubz123
11-19-2011, 12:18 PM
Must be the new ATI cards. I have an i7 960 @ 3600, 9 gig of ram, and an ATI 5970, running DX11 on the highest settings @ 1920X1080.

Performance is really good for me, no complaints. I'm sure ATI will get the new cards performing good with a driver update.

Can you define "really good" for us via the frame rates you're seeing? Is it constantly 50-60+ FPS in Fraps?

Zedo Mann
11-19-2011, 12:21 PM
I have a 4850 and it's a bit slow for me.
However recently, after rebooting a few times after installing the 11.11 CAP2 update and turning off Ambient Occlusion and Post Processing, it's been running a little better.

Javaguy
11-19-2011, 05:10 PM
I have a 4850 and it's a bit slow for me.
However recently, after rebooting a few times after installing the 11.11 CAP2 update and turning off Ambient Occlusion and Post Processing, it's been running a little better.

This is exactly my experience. With an i5 / HD5850 it was pretty unplayable before the CAP2 update, but after that and with DX10 options turned off it is just about alright, just about 50fps lower than it looks like it should be.

Zedo Mann
11-19-2011, 05:41 PM
This is exactly my experience. With an i5 / HD5850 it was pretty unplayable before the CAP2 update, but after that and with DX10 options turned off it is just about alright, just about 50fps lower than it looks like it should be.
It's at least a little more playable for me now.

Scipizoa
11-19-2011, 06:13 PM
for those of you using crossfire with this game...

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2241466

RedRumy3
11-19-2011, 06:17 PM
My friend just bought me this game, currently downloading but he also is having low fps on his 6970. I will test on my 6970 as well and post back but I hope it's just a driver problem and not something with game itself.

Zedo Mann
11-19-2011, 06:21 PM
My friend just bought me this game, currently downloading but he also is having low fps on his 6970. I will test on my 6970 as well and post back but I hope it's just a driver problem and not something with game itself.
If it is something with the game then Volition should be releasing an update soon.
AMD and Volition are working together to fix this problem...apparently.

RedRumy3
11-19-2011, 07:31 PM
Well Just played the campaign for a bit and seems to be smooth on my pc but my friend seems to be having problems. Both have 6970 but he has bulldozer and I have i5 2500k. Hopefully they fix the problem soon so I can coop with him.

gtcard
11-19-2011, 07:59 PM
Here's my system:

core i5 2500K
8GB
6990+6950 trifire
3x1 portrait eyefinity (3240x1920)

averages 25 fps on default ultra setting at eyefinity resolution. 1 monitor resolution (1920x1080) is roughly 45 with same settings. I'm not sure what to say, when I am not seeing solid 60fps with 3 GPUs on a single monitor.

11.11 CAP2 fixed the stuttering I got while driving, but didn't do anything for overall frames.

Gabooza
11-20-2011, 09:33 AM
Doing a game cache verify revealed 1 file was missing, it downloaded it and it was solved for me.

outcast dead
11-20-2011, 09:56 AM
works fine on my laptop in dx 11
options set to med/low. nearly time for a new one
2.53 core duo
4 gb ram
radeon hd 4650
win 7 32 bit

Auronof
11-20-2011, 11:45 AM
I've noticed something pretty odd. The first time I load into the game I get 15-30 FPS the first time I leave the crib and start driving around. If I go into Rim Jobs, make no changes and exit, I can drive through the same area I just did with 50-60 FPS. This seems to happen each time I fire up the game.

Mysticales
11-20-2011, 02:18 PM
Ok... rather odd..
Phenom II 955
Ati Sapphire 5750
Win 7 Pro
11.11 cata

Well even on Ultra settings.. I got a range from 30-45 FPS Which plays good, When I stop moving or depending how much was on the screen it could goto 50-60 FPS.

Now here is the odd part... I even turned it to "low" for the hell of it... the 30-45 range FPS.. didnt change at all. Tho was even more odd a couple other times when I loaded the game, it went to the 25-35 FPS range until I restarted the game. So I dont know how to make heads or tails of this randomness. Its like the game settings dont really matter.

Sjeik
11-20-2011, 03:09 PM
Here's my system:

core i5 2500K
8GB
6990+6950 trifire
3x1 portrait eyefinity (3240x1920)

averages 25 fps on default ultra setting at eyefinity resolution. 1 monitor resolution (1920x1080) is roughly 45 with same settings. I'm not sure what to say, when I am not seeing solid 60fps with 3 GPUs on a single monitor.

11.11 CAP2 fixed the stuttering I got while driving, but didn't do anything for overall frames.

That's shocking, have you tried disabling that 6950 to see what happens?
I have a 1090T working with crossfired 6950s and I'm getting near flawless (v-synced) 60fps gameplay at 1920x1080. Some heavy outdoor sections will periodically pull the frames down a bit but overall it's a silky smooth ride.
Your system is far superior to mine and should easily give you flawless gameplay. Maybe that 3rd 6950 is hurting your performance?

bblasphemous
11-20-2011, 05:11 PM
Running godawfully for me.

http://i.imgur.com/8SiKG.jpg

HD 6850
Phenom II 945

Cavintine
11-20-2011, 07:30 PM
Best bet is for everyone to just wait for the performance patch/update. They did promise one so all we can really do is play it under terrible conditions or wait until they fix it. I get pretty solid frames, my only problem is the spikes.

I'm aware that some people can play this game flawlessly.

Cubemonkey
11-20-2011, 07:35 PM
2500k @ 4.3ghz
3x 6950 2GB

All ultra settings with vsync, ~45 fps looking down the alley after you go through the beginning sequence on the plane.

Still waiting on that Skyrim CAP, too. Jesus AMD is failing me.

blackmanfu
11-20-2011, 07:45 PM
for those of you using crossfire with this game...

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2241466

that fixed the driving stuttering for me, but I still have really crappy performance. I'm only getting ~50 fps outside while driving on medium/low settings, 2048x1152, NO AA, NO AO, Post Processing set to low.

My machine is an i5 750 @ 3.2 GHz, and 2x Radeon 5850s in crossfire, 16 GB DDR3 1600. This computer Battlefield 3 on high at 80-100 fps, so this performance in SR3 is ridiculous.

DarkChaosViper
11-20-2011, 08:06 PM
Sorry but I can max Just Cause 2 and hold 60 fps with no pop in or any problems at all. Face it this is another slop console port and you can thank Volition for that.

I7 920 @ 4ghz
5970+5870

I doubt AMD will look any deeper into this game, you're lucky to even get 1 patch a game from them through their caps unless it's a big money game like BF3 or CoD.

Zedo Mann
11-20-2011, 08:28 PM
Sorry but I can max Just Cause 2 and hold 60 fps with no pop in or any problems at all. Face it this is another slop console port and you can thank Volition for that
Saints Row: The Third on PC is not a port, and it's our goal here at Volition to prove that to our PC fans. We hope you enjoy the game when it releases to the public on November 15th!
http://www.saintsrow.com/uk/news/detail/article/251623/pc_exclusive_features_for_sr:tt

DarkChaosViper
11-20-2011, 09:10 PM
^ My point is that they lied...

SapientWolf
11-20-2011, 09:33 PM
that fixed the driving stuttering for me, but I still have really crappy performance. I'm only getting ~50 fps outside while driving on medium/low settings, 2048x1152, NO AA, NO AO, Post Processing set to low.

My machine is an i5 750 @ 3.2 GHz, and 2x Radeon 5850s in crossfire, 16 GB DDR3 1600. This computer Battlefield 3 on high at 80-100 fps, so this performance in SR3 is ridiculous.
I'd love to have performance like that. I get 10-25fps outside at 1080p on the exact same setup.

bblasphemous
11-20-2011, 10:00 PM
I'm actually tempted to reinstall my old HD4850 and see if it runs this game better than my HD6850.

It can't get much worse than 10-25fps.

EC-
11-20-2011, 10:49 PM
After installing the newest 11.11 drivers with CAP 2 I have been getting improved framerates. Unfortunately, the game seems to be crashing randomly now with the newer drivers. Biazarre, and pretty annoying.

AMD Phenom II X4 3.4GHz
Radeon HD 5870
8 GB DDR3 RAM

craney
11-21-2011, 01:30 AM
Im geting around 40fps outside quite choppy i must say with my 5850 running 11.9 thinking of running my OC of 810/1000 to see if it helps. I have my PII 2 955 OC to 3.7ghz as well.

What is the real difference playing this game in DX9 to DX10/11? i cant really notice anything

wazups 2x
11-21-2011, 02:45 AM
What is the real difference playing this game in DX9 to DX10/11? i cant really notice anything

http://blogs.amd.com/play/2011/11/16/saints-row-the-third-developer-blog-part-1/

bryonhowley
11-21-2011, 04:45 AM
More and more I'm seeing day one titles not working with AMD cards. This is the chief reason I went Green last time. Honestly, I love my GTX 480 SLI setup. This is the best gaming rig I've ever owned. And yeah, I could see how this sort of thing would start to get irritating,

Rage was simply amazing on my machine, but the ATI people apparently got shafted.

Every game including this one runs great on my AMD/ATI rig. I have seen a lot of post in the last few games that have came out on bad performance wit high end Intel/Nvidia rigs and yet they all run great on my AMD/ATI system.

Rage had no more problems on ATI than it did on Nvidia. The drivers were sorted out in a short order with no more problems.

After spending $500 more on my Intel/Nvidia SLI rig just to watch it crash even at the desktop it will be the last one AMD/ATI is just more stable and lower cost to the wallet!

OS: Windows 7 x64
CPU: AMD FX 8120 8 core Black Edition : Motherboard: MSI 890FXA-GD70
Case: In Win Dragon Rider : Video Card: 2x SAPPHIRE HD 6950 (flash to 6970) 2GB
Monitors: 3x Asus VK278Q Black 27 : Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB DDR3 1600
SSD: OCZ Vertex 2 3.5" 90GB : HDD: 4x Western Digital Caviar Green 3TB 64MB Cache
Optical Drive: LG WH10LS30K 10X Blu-ray Burner : Mouse: Logitech Performance Mouse MX
Keyboard: Logitech G19 Gaming Keyboard

MeFirst
11-21-2011, 05:12 AM
This is getting really frustrating and not like there is ANY communication frol The devs or Amd to us at all.

Envy23
11-21-2011, 06:37 AM
I seem to only get the FPS drop when looking at the middle of the map, the big city. If I look at the sky, or away from the middle area, I get good FPS. Or if a building is occluding the center of the city that sometimes gives me good FPS

Radeon HD 5870, Catalyst 11.11 Cap 2

Zedo Mann
11-21-2011, 07:42 AM
I seem to only get the FPS drop when looking at the middle of the map, the big city. If I look at the sky, or away from the middle area, I get good FPS. Or if a building is occluding the center of the city that sometimes gives me good FPS

Radeon HD 5870, Catalyst 11.11 Cap 2
That's how mine is pretty much.

vizionblind
11-21-2011, 08:26 AM
That's how mine is pretty much.

thats still pretty pathetic

EverLight
11-21-2011, 08:37 AM
My specs:
Windows 7 64 bit
4gb of ram
Intel core 2 Quad @ 2.8 ghz
Radeon HD 5770

Everything set to high except for post processing which is low and shadows which are medium. Before updating to the 11.11 drivers and installing the CAP update I was getting a constant 17 fps or lower

After updating I get about 35 fps at most while driving which lowers down to around 25 when in the downtown areas. Indoor areas go up 45 fps in places.

I'm not expecting miracles from my ageing rig, but I'd expect a little more from it especially since I can play Just Cause 2 maxed out at 50 fps, Skyrim maxed at a constant 60, etc.

I really hope they're still working on a legit fix and haven't just gotten lazy after the CAP updated made a slight improvement to performance.

The odd thing is that setting everything to low makes next to no difference to frame rate, so I just run around with everything maxed and lagging to hell, it's not like I can play it any other way right now anyway.

EverLight
11-21-2011, 10:17 AM
As a side note, which thread on which forum is the best to follow in regards to this issue?

I want to be sure I get any fixes as soon as they become available.

MeFirst
11-21-2011, 10:52 AM
On steam I would follow this thread. The normal saints row 3 forum seems to be down for uhhh: The site is unavailable while we try to
get Matt Miller off the servers.
Please try again later.

So I cant get the link to it now.

yellowc
11-21-2011, 12:36 PM
having the same problem, the game runs fine when you're not moving your camera around. but when you do the fps drops, funny thing is that on the start screen it shows the ati cards thing. hopefully they'll fix it with the next update!

vizionblind
11-21-2011, 12:47 PM
lets go volition!

Sysgen
11-21-2011, 12:49 PM
You guys wouldn't be running any gfx utilities like GamerOSD? Had to completely uninstall that due to issues it caused with my AMD card.

gtcard
11-21-2011, 01:50 PM
Is anyone else's game using a ridiculous amount of ram? On mine it would spike up to 1.5gb in task manager immediately after loading a save and I have seen it use over 2gb during play. This is when I run the game at 3240x1920 @ultra settings.

cyborg34573
11-21-2011, 01:55 PM
Is anyone else's game using a ridiculous amount of ram? On mine it would spike up to 1.5gb in task manager immediately after loading a save and I have seen it use over 2gb during play. This is when I run the game at 3240x1920 @ultra settings.

Are you talking about VRAM?. With that resolution i woudnt be surprised, higher res = more VRAM usage. I only play at 1920x1080 and i can get 1GB VRAM usage sometimes.

RedRumy3
11-21-2011, 02:52 PM
Those having problem try these new 11.11a hotfix drivers even though they dont say anything for saints row 3 but it might help

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=354408