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ericlee2k
02-28-2012, 10:01 PM
I noticed a pattern with Call of Duty games... Once a sequel or followup is released, people who used to bash the old game now bash the newest game and start praising the old. For example, people bashed WaW for CoD4, then bashed MW2 for WaW/CoD4, then bashed Black Ops for MW2, and are now bashing MW3 and loving Black Ops.

Or it could be that the CoD series is getting worse... but to me MW3 seems to be the same, if not slightly better, than Call of Duty 4 gameplay-wise (not counting technical stuff like hackers, dedicated servers, etc.)

hit-n-run
02-28-2012, 10:03 PM
yes, apparently its what all the cool kids are doing nowadays, and also for the record i dont think anyone loved black ops...

OmegaXtreme420
02-28-2012, 10:13 PM
MW2 was my favorite despite it being an xbox game on pc I enjoyed it a ton

SCR.eVAC
02-28-2012, 10:17 PM
My fav CoD games are Cod4,W@W and Blops.MW3 is just a space filler to me till the next Treyarch title.

/end unpopular opinion

Anotherwrld
02-28-2012, 10:22 PM
i dont think anyone loved black ops...

Had Sticks and Stones...that's about it.

st0nedpenguin
02-28-2012, 11:09 PM
Blops 2 will have put everyone to sleep with it's grey, grey, and more grey colour scheme and boring ♥♥♥ gameplay, nobody will be able to comment.

Wrathe
02-29-2012, 01:03 AM
Because new features are always in the newer CoD titles, people will bash or love them. It's also seems that CoD is degrading since people tend to prefer the older titles over the new.

Wouldn't it rock so much if we had.. CoD4's balance (Excluding Martyrdom, Grenade Launchers and Juggernaut, and of course, the Desert Eagle model and stats from CoD4, it's awesome okay), WaW's War game mode (It was so awesome!), MW2's maps (Highrise, Favela, Wasteland is awesome too for sniping and SKIDROW!), Black Ops' Combat Training feature, face masks, dual mags <3, flamethrowers, DECOYS!

Finally, MW3's leveling system (It's awesome with the addition of weapon leveling), perks, point streak system, the correctly nerfed noobtubes and give akimbo to pistols only, exclude out Dead Man's Hand.. Combine all CoD camos together. All in one CoD game. One could only wish..

EDIT: RANKED Dedicated Servers and a FOV slider are a must!

Misguided
02-29-2012, 01:21 AM
BLOPS was the best by far. FULLSTOP

Apulaite
02-29-2012, 01:50 AM
now bashing MW3 and loving Black Ops.

Actually, there are more people playing MW2 than Black Ops.

st0nedpenguin
02-29-2012, 03:05 AM
BLOPS was the best by far. FULLSTOP

The forum name really works for this post.

WomboMyCombo
02-29-2012, 04:10 AM
The forum name really works for this post.

I enjoyed Black Ops as well :[

pnellesen
02-29-2012, 04:16 AM
My favorite is still CoD4, but honestly I like MW3 more than I did MW2, though I wish MW3 had some bigger maps. (Seems like they changed a lot of the things from MW2 that made me quit playing.)

King_Pin999
02-29-2012, 04:27 AM
glad to know im not the only one who notices that trend.

Misguided
02-29-2012, 05:17 AM
I enjoyed Black Ops as well :[

Glad someone agrees with me. Black Ops IMHO is better in every way over MW2 and MW3.

rotaugen454
02-29-2012, 05:31 AM
It's the same with every game in a series. Look at the Total War Series. When the buggy Empire:Total War came out, a bunch of kids screamed that Medieval 2 was the best. Then Napoleon:Total War came out and people bashed that. Then Shogun 2 came out and it got mauled in the forums. I look back on a lot of computer games that I loved in the past with nostalgia too, but when I reload some really old games, I realize that they were great for their time, but are now outdated.

Dellers
02-29-2012, 07:23 AM
I never bashed MW2, and it still stands as the best game for me. Take g18, noobtube and cheaters away - and the game is pretty awesome. MW3 has tons of more players, yet it has far more lag...
I will not be buying BLOPS 2 though. Too much stuff that I know they won't fix from previous titles, and probably not any major new features. I'm not wasting another 40 on an unfinished game.

Roler42
02-29-2012, 07:37 AM
actually people keep praising Mw1 and W@W than even blackops or MW2

out of all the CODs, MW3 is the most lacking of them all

killpion
02-29-2012, 07:41 AM
bo is by far the worst, the engine was really bad, the hipfire was very strange, only the maps and the unlocking of weapons and attachments was good, maybe in the next bo treyarch will put more time in making the game better for pc, also cod4 best cod multiplayer, mw3 after that, mw2 was very fun but the felling of the game wasn't that good, too chaotic

Flasher710
02-29-2012, 07:42 AM
I playing all the call of duty games but my favourite is Black Ops Multiplayer. It's really great created and i have a really big fun with playing. I hear about Black Ops 2. I waiting for this game a lot :D

Dellers
02-29-2012, 07:53 AM
bo is by far the worst, the engine was really bad, the hipfire was very strange, only the maps and the unlocking of weapons and attachments was good, maybe in the next bo treyarch will put more time in making the game better for pc, also cod4 best cod multiplayer, mw3 after that, mw2 was very fun but the felling of the game wasn't that good, too chaotic
Excuse me? You must be mixing up MW2 and MW3. MW3 is complete chaos. MW2 wasn't chaotic at all for being a COD game.

D0T-C0M
02-29-2012, 07:55 AM
I noticed a pattern with Call of Duty games... Once a sequel or followup is released, people who used to bash the old game now bash the newest game and start praising the old. For example, people bashed WaW for CoD4, then bashed MW2 for WaW/CoD4, then bashed Black Ops for MW2, and are now bashing MW3 and loving Black Ops.

Or it could be that the CoD series is getting worse... but to me MW3 seems to be the same, if not slightly better, than Call of Duty 4 gameplay-wise (not counting technical stuff like hackers, dedicated servers, etc.)
Nope for me BlackOps was crap and still is crap. I most definitely WILL NOT by buying any games from Treyarch in the future. WAW , BO failed miserably and the next BO will not get any of my money. I liked MW2 and now I really am enjoying MW3. I can't wait till the old crew from IW come out with their new FPS which is possibly what will give competition to activision.

kara_bulut
02-29-2012, 07:58 AM
CoD 2 was teh best, Lee Enfield sniping ftw.

Bandtx
02-29-2012, 08:21 AM
I still think Black Ops sucks after MW3 came out..

dopey247
02-29-2012, 08:30 AM
i like all the cod titles never really had a negative thought about any of them.
yes even mw3 as far as the game itself,its laking a few things but other than that its still fun to play,

waw never gatta fair swing in it all becouse no one really wanted to go backewords to ww2 after cod4 (mw1).

but in its defence i enjoyde it very much, nothen like runen over your enemy in a tank or clearing an ally for your tm with a tank :) was fun,

black ops was far better quality of a game than mw2 or mw3 in every way,

larger maps,usable invirment such as working doors destroyable land bridges and other things brought to the game that were totaly new for cod.

CrazY HorzE
02-29-2012, 08:32 AM
I know for sure that i will try before buy this time! No matter how it will be received by the community.

Tha HorzE

AllTheWay
02-29-2012, 08:40 AM
MW2 was my favorite despite it being an xbox game on pc I enjoyed it a ton

Agreed.

But I swear I'm not paying one more penny in a COD. This one was gifted to me, that's the only reason why I know it personally sucks. It's gonna be the same sh... every game pretty much, there's a new COD every year

AMC_Duke
02-29-2012, 09:47 AM
Why is Black Ops so hated i found it pretty good had great stock maps too

but for me i can find something to like on every cod

AvaloN.TLW
02-29-2012, 10:25 AM
I enjoyed MW2, disliked FlopOps.
I enjoy MW3 and dislike CoD 4.

Flasher710
02-29-2012, 10:28 AM
I still think Black Ops sucks after MW3 came out..

Noo ! Black ops i better than MW3. MW3 is same than MW2 only new guns, killstreaks and something objects.

davidsneade
02-29-2012, 10:36 AM
I wish WaW would magically repopulate.

gooberx
02-29-2012, 10:53 AM
I like Bops more than MW2 or MW3. PC FPS gameplay requires dedis IMO. If BOps2 has dedis I will get on PC, if not it will be back to consoles.

JasonT
02-29-2012, 11:05 AM
I noticed a pattern with Call of Duty games... Once a sequel or followup is released, people who used to bash the old game now bash the newest game and start praising the old. For example, people bashed WaW for CoD4, then bashed MW2 for WaW/CoD4, then bashed Black Ops for MW2, and are now bashing MW3 and loving Black Ops.


Here, follow this handy algorithm.

1. Buy new Call of Duty game
2. If made by Infinity Ward go to 3; Else, go to 6.

3. Complain that game looks like COD4 1.5
4. Complain about matchmaking, akimbo weapons, quickscoping, & hackers.
5. State on forum that [Insert previous Treyarch game] was better; go to 9

6. Complain that game looks like Black Ops 1.5
7. Complain about glitchy, buggy gameplay.
8. State on forum that [Insert previous Infinity Ward game] was better

9. State on steam forum that this is the last game you will ever buy from Activision
10. Go to 1.

HarleyFLSTF
02-29-2012, 11:25 AM
Here, follow this handy algorithm.

1. Buy new Call of Duty game
2. If made by Infinity Ward go to 3; Else, go to 6.

3. Complain that game looks like COD4 1.5
4. Complain about matchmaking, akimbo weapons, quickscoping, & hackers.
5. State on forum that [Insert previous Treyarch game] was better

6. Complain that game looks like Black Ops 1.5
7. Complain about glitchy, buggy gameplay.
8. State on forum that [Insert previous Infinity Ward game] was better

9. State on steam forum that this is the last game you will ever buy from Activision
10. Go to 1.

AWESOME!!! +1 rep!

Rename112
02-29-2012, 11:39 AM
It happens with each COD game that`s the community bro ;)

gooberx
02-29-2012, 11:58 AM
yah you know people are fos when they are saying how great MW2 was. Seriously, if you look back at the forums the first few months after release it looks exactly like all the complaints that MW3 currently had and everyone saying how great that COD4 and WAW were.

ericlee2k
02-29-2012, 05:21 PM
CoD 2 was teh best, Lee Enfield sniping ftw.

haha, I remember when cod2 came out and people complained that there were no vehicles, anti-cheat, ranks, way smaller maps (with the exception of a few same ones), and other stuff... many wanted to go back to 1 and UO, then cod3 came out but not for pc and people thought cod3 was even worse than cod2 lol

st0nedpenguin
02-29-2012, 05:58 PM
Excuse me? You must be mixing up MW2 and MW3. MW3 is complete chaos. MW2 wasn't chaotic at all for being a COD game.

I hope that was a bad joke.

deagledog69
02-29-2012, 06:30 PM
My fav CoD games are Cod4,W@W and Blops.MW3 is just a space filler to me till the next Treyarch title.

/end unpopular opinion

^Truth

In order of quality from best to worst
========
BEST
========
Call of Duty 2 (The mother)
Call of Duty 4 (The father)
World at War (The cool uncle)
Modern Warfare 2 (The annoying little brother)
Black Ops (The cousin you rarely see but like)
Modern Warfare 3 (The village idiot)
========
WORST
========

TheFobb
02-29-2012, 06:34 PM
Black Ops was awesome. With a few minor tweaks it could easily be my favorite.

TheFobb
02-29-2012, 06:35 PM
Excuse me? You must be mixing up MW2 and MW3. MW3 is complete chaos. MW2 wasn't chaotic at all for being a COD game.

What. The. ♥♥♥♥?

Did people smoke some strong ♥♥♥ grass between now and MW2?

OmegaXtreme420
02-29-2012, 06:56 PM
What. The. ♥♥♥♥?

Did people smoke some strong ♥♥♥ grass between now and MW2?

I liked it being chaotic :D

AllenSugar
02-29-2012, 08:48 PM
no people will go on a bashing spree saying how bad Mw3 (as if we dont already know this) then everyone will get pumped up saying BO2 is TEH BEST GAME EVA then another COD will be announced and the cycle will continue

TheFobb
02-29-2012, 09:46 PM
I liked it being chaotic :D

Won't lie, it's definitely fun to go back to (playing AIW, because steam version is absolutely barren). It's chaotic though, and not balanced at all.

MooseG1
02-29-2012, 11:45 PM
A man walks into a ♥♥♥♥ corperate fast food joint, spends 15(1/4 the price of a duty game) dollars on ♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥ and leaves filling empty, sour and drained, he returns home and rages at his loving gold fish and sock drawyer that never has matching pairs. He switches on his hardware, that he has no ♥♥♥♥ stick how it works, and doesnt care, he then says hi to racist dip dong friends list and proceeds to play a CoD series. Aw this game sucks, aw this game is not as good, aw this game is scam, blah blah blah, first of all ♥♥♥♥ you, stop whining and posting your depressed bitter garbage, MAKE legit points, no one gives used coffee grounds about your hollow opinions, just as you give no gogurts about mine. bottomline is COD series is better then half the food you eat, better then the piss poor clothes you wear, the scam booze you drink in hopes of finding confidence and women, better then the drugs you pop. better then the cold side of your moms house pillow. Either help people by making thought out and constructed comments with genuine care, or gtfo and go play xbox. real FPS boys keep their game tight, ya'll just got v-necked, ESL need not apply im talking straight balls. pce from moosedagoose

st0nedpenguin
02-29-2012, 11:47 PM
What. The. ♥♥♥♥?

Did people smoke some strong ♥♥♥ grass between now and MW2?

Must be some pretty good ♥♥♥♥ if they remember MW2 as anything other than a tube/grenade/rocket air support spam fest.

pbnj17
03-01-2012, 01:11 AM
cod4 > black ops > mw2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mw3

mx_
03-01-2012, 02:12 AM
Blops 2 will have put everyone to sleep with it's grey, grey, and more grey colour scheme and boring ♥♥♥ gameplay, nobody will be able to comment.

You realize it's only like that due to the theme of the games, right? It make sense.

demontrace
03-01-2012, 03:24 AM
yes, apparently its what all the cool kids are doing nowadays, and also for the record i dont think anyone loved black ops...

I liked Black Ops a lot, for both Xbox360 and PC. In fact I cannot believe Black Ops for the PC came out, with the ranked dedicated servers, and then MW3 comes out, and does away with that. What was the point of that?

I love being able to connect to a server that has 18 people playing and getting a 30-50 ping. Or even connecting to servers that are on the other side of the country, and still only having a ping of 100 at worst.

Plus I love the set up of Scavenger, Sleight of Hand, and then whatever, usually Ninja, or Tactical Mask.

I will say I did not like having to do 3 different tasks for Pro status, when many of them weren't fun at all, or sometimes kinda random. MW2 and MW3 have the right idea when it comes to Pro status. And the Specialist Kill Streak is the best idea ever. Actually allows me to have Scavenger and Sleight of Hand, although it kind of limits me to just the Specialist kill streak if I actually want to have both of those perks.

rotaugen454
03-01-2012, 06:42 AM
Pong was the last great video game. It was all downhill from there....

Skopjanec
03-01-2012, 07:41 AM
yes, apparently its what all the cool kids are doing nowadays, and also for the record i dont think anyone loved black ops...

its was difficult for the kids,thats why

WikingDK
03-01-2012, 08:19 AM
BO is the best game of them all...

Billshere
03-01-2012, 09:38 AM
I remember when COD4 came out. There were actually quite a lot of people who thought it was highly overrated, including myself.

But then MW2 was released and suddenly, COD4 was the greatest game ever.

gooberx
03-01-2012, 10:34 AM
Well I guess if the COD games keep getting worse every year, then the previous game may seem great in comparison. Unfortunately this may be the case.

Bandtx
03-01-2012, 11:04 AM
Mark my words, CoD's world record sales streak will end when Black Ops 2 comes out

CrazyMoeFoe
03-01-2012, 11:32 AM
CoD4 = The best fps of it's time, lightyears ahead of any other fps. Excellent gameplay (with only a few annoying features like x3 frags)

WaW = A copy and paste of CoD4, killed somewhat by tanks and the WW2 setting, but still great

MW2 = An improvement over CoD4 in every way except one, no ranked dedi's. If MW2 had ranked dedi's and mod tools like CoD4 and WaW it would easily be considered the best CoD title to date.

Black Ops = Where the franchise began going downhill with smaller more cramped maps, and too much focus on balancing everything out which ironically led to BO having the worst balance of any CoD.

MW3 = A slight improvement over MW2 when you look at weapons, killstreaks, etc. Yet a HUGE step backwards in terms of map design, and STILL no ranked dedi servers. If MW3 had ranked dedi's the only problems with it would be the super cramped poorly designed maps.


Most who consider Black Ops good in any way are people who
1) Started playing CoD with Black Ops and have no idea what a good CoD game is like
2) Focus solely on the ranked dedi's (the ONLY thing Black Ops did right) and consider it better than MW2/MW3 for that reason alone.
3) They simply enjoy playing a dumbed down easymode version of CoD.

Black Ops was and still is the worst CoD title ever released.

rotaugen454
03-01-2012, 12:42 PM
If BLOPS is so terrible, why doesn't the price ever drop to $10? If it ever went to that level, I'd buy a couple copies for my friends. But no, it stays up there.

tommurto
03-01-2012, 12:46 PM
CoD 4 was the best because after that it has basically been remake after remake. The franchise hasn't gone forward. This doesn't mean the games aren't as good basically, but they have stagnated and aren't up to date and new like CoD4.

Call of Duty should be updated. It needs a new engine that allows for more versatile gamemodes and better graphics. I'm not saying CoD needs to be like BF3, but there could be the option for larger gamemodes too.

BUT ABOVE ALL! I wish they would allow for user made content - an active community is absolutely THE BEST way to make a game last longer. Custom maps, custom mods. Remember Quake? That had Team Fortress, Action Quake... Half-Life had Counter-Strike and Day of Defeat. Brilliant and free.

CrazyMoeFoe
03-01-2012, 01:30 PM
BUT ABOVE ALL! I wish they would allow for user made content - an active community is absolutely THE BEST way to make a game last longer. Custom maps, custom mods. Remember Quake? That had Team Fortress, Action Quake... Half-Life had Counter-Strike and Day of Defeat. Brilliant and free.


You're forgetting that the folks at Lack-O-Vision don't want the game to last longer. They want each CoD game to have a lifespan of one year so that everyone goes and buys the next CoD game.

Sadly now that all the gaming companies are realizing they can get money for dlc map packs if they don't release mapmaking tools, we likely won't see mapmaking tools anymore for any game.

tommurto
03-01-2012, 01:36 PM
You're forgetting that the folks at Lack-O-Vision don't want the game to last longer. They want each CoD game to have a lifespan of one year so that everyone goes and buys the next CoD game.

Sadly now that all the gaming companies are realizing they can get money for dlc map packs if they don't release mapmaking tools, we likely won't see mapmaking tools anymore for any game.

Sad, but true. And this is a great regression when it comes to online games and online communities. DLC is totally killing custom content.

I still expect some old school franchises (like the next Unreal Tournament) to have mapmaking tools, maybe because it is mostly a showcase of a new engine whenever it is released.

Ngamok
03-01-2012, 01:43 PM
I have not liked any of the Treyarch installments in terms of single player. Having said that, I liked the multiplayer maps in W@W a lot. Black Ops were ok but my only issue with Black Ops was Ballistic Knife. Just equipping that knife made you melee too fast which took a pro perk to do with a regular knife. Other than the AUG / Famas, there weren't too many powerful weapons.