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Firehex
02-29-2012, 06:07 AM
It is 7 and with it sniper rifle charges about 1 second. But why not 10 heads for instant charge ?Will Heavy and soldiers be sad or what ?)

TheFriendlyCow
02-29-2012, 08:01 AM
Because that would make it ridiculous. 80% increase is more than enough to snapshot a soldier, and a heavy fractions of a second later.

Rynjin
02-29-2012, 08:09 AM
450 damage headshots every .2 seconds.

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Maddy Baddy
02-29-2012, 08:43 AM
450 damage headshots every .2 seconds.

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If you have that much skill and don't miss... Then why not?

Rynjin
02-29-2012, 08:48 AM
If you have that much skill and don't miss... Then why not?

Because it goes against the entire design philosophy of the Sniper in this game.

It's why there's a delay between scoping and being able to headshot, to stop people from making quickscoping scripts.

Maddy Baddy
02-29-2012, 08:52 AM
Because it goes against the entire design philosophy of the Sniper in this game.

It's why there's a delay between scoping and being able to headshot, to stop people from making quickscoping scripts.

But there already is a 200 ms delay. So if someone got 10 headshots in a row without missing why not reward it? It wouldn't affect the hs delay, it would only affect the charge rate.

Not to mention your post of 450 dmg every .2 seconds is a bit exagerated. Not taking into account reload animation and time for aiming. Snipers are not aimbots.

Meadows
02-29-2012, 09:00 AM
450 damage headshots every .2 seconds
Well that's certainly unpossible, given that there's a standard 1 second charging delay on all rifles that appears to be unaffected by the Bargain's head counter, in addition to the standard 1.5 sec reload. Still, 450 damage headshots every 2.5 seconds isn't too shabby either.

On a sidenote: the Bargain can actually store more than 7 heads, it's just that the charge rate bonus caps out at that amount for balance reasons. If you have 10 heads, you can afford to miss 3 times before your charge rate bonus starts going down.

Rynjin
02-29-2012, 09:03 AM
But there already is a 200 ms delay. So if someone got 10 headshots in a row without missing why not reward it? It wouldn't affect the hs delay, it would only affect the charge rate.

Not to mention your post of 450 dmg every .2 seconds is a bit exagerated. Not taking into account reload animation and time for aiming. Snipers are not aimbots.

Think about this for a second.

It's NOT an entirely skill based thing here. Even things that take skill can be too powerful. That's like saying making the Direct Hit instakill everyone is fair because IT takes skill to use. There's a certain point where the skill required is nowhere near the reward it brings.

Well that's certainly unpossible, given that there's a standard 1 second charging delay on all rifles that appears to be unaffected by the Bargain's head counter, in addition to the standard 1.5 sec reload. Still, 450 damage headshots every 2.5 seconds isn't too shabby either.

On a sidenote: the Bargain can actually store more than 7 heads, it's just that the charge rate bonus caps out at that amount for balance reasons. If you have 10 heads, you can afford to miss 3 times before your charge rate bonus starts going down.

Edit: Oh, really? I wasn't sure whether it kept the 1 second charge or not.

Still, the OP DID specifically say that it "charges instantly".

Crespo_PL
02-29-2012, 10:56 AM
more than 7 (heck, even 5) isn't achievable unless you camp AFK players.

even the pros you look up to can't consistently get there

Firehex
02-29-2012, 12:34 PM
Well i made this on newbies snipers and spies on cp_orange and was shocked by this limit. Anyway i don't see why it can be op... You still can be killed by spy or other sniper,you need to aim,and meter falls down if you miss.

Apulaite
03-02-2012, 08:11 AM
more than 7 (heck, even 5) isn't achievable unless you camp AFK players.

even the pros you look up to can't consistently get there

7 is certainly possible, and I'm not even a good Sniper.