PDA

View Full Version : Nexuiz


nejcslo1
03-14-2012, 10:57 AM
http://www.nexuiz.com/

Added to coming soon. Anyone excited? Looks kewl :D

BaconSammich
03-14-2012, 10:58 AM
Was excited ever since first teaser of it was announced on Rock Paper Shotgun a while back. Nice to see more old-school FPS coming out these days.

Tribes and this are very nice examples indeed. Will be spending a lot of time fragging :D

SqS.Hyden
03-14-2012, 11:39 AM
17 april on Steam

wazups 2x
03-14-2012, 11:42 AM
Looks like Unreal Tournament for dummies. All the weapons are easy mode with big splash damage, combined with devastating power. And hold button for automatic bunnihopping.. lol. On top of that the gameplay looks slower than UT and way slower than quake. The gun models are ridiculously huge and the map layout is awful, and its a total visual mess.

As much as I love oldschool fast paced shooters, this just looks like a bad mishmash of quake and UT with severely dumbed down gameplay. Surprisingly enough it doesn’t have regenerating health at least.

The depth and high skill ceiling is what gave those arena shooters longevity.

SqS.Hyden
03-14-2012, 11:43 AM
No. .

COD generation i guess

wazups 2x
03-14-2012, 11:45 AM
COD generation i guess

Uh, no... Check my post again. Ninja'd you. :)

stinkytaco
03-14-2012, 11:53 AM
I have been playing the free version of Nexuiz for a few years now. Alientrap is a great developer. They are the guys who make indivania for indie developers to sell their games.

The old free Nexuiz is still played a lot, and the project recently forked into a new game called :
http://www.xonotic.org/

They just released version .6, so go and play for free!!

be sure to try instagib+hook CTF it is a complete RIOT! Grappling hooks should be part of every 3d shooter IMHO :p

insyami
03-14-2012, 11:53 AM
COD generation i guess

UT3 bot play is the ♥♥♥♥ bro.

☃ Santa ☃
03-14-2012, 11:58 AM
A long ago Nexuiz was a great free opensource game, but one day main developer was hired by IllFonic company and left the community. They said they are going to port Nexuiz to consoles but instead they made another fully commercial game (new engine but same gameplay) with the same name and logo. That was kinda a scumbag maneuver, so i think i'm not gonna buy it.

SqS.Hyden
03-14-2012, 12:01 PM
UT3 bot play is the ♥♥♥♥ bro.

what ?

TTK-Bandit
03-14-2012, 12:48 PM
this is not old school, this might look old school on first sight, but it's dumbed down to the max and made for consoles (so pc version is a port).

bear912
03-14-2012, 01:03 PM
And hold button for automatic bunnihopping.. lol.
QuakeWorld and Quake 3 (not sure about Quake II or Quake 4) only required you to release and re-press the jump button while midair to bunnyhop successfully. This is really only incrementally harder than just holding a button; only a modicum of extra timing is involved. Warsow uses a "bunnyhop button", like Nexuiz, and it works fine there. The high skill ceiling of Quake has very little to do with with the actual low-level mechanics of bunnyhopping, and far more to do with weapon skill and speed/movement/map/item control. Nexuiz may have its share of problems, but I wouldn't place the "bunnyhop button" among them.

Fick
03-14-2012, 01:07 PM
Oh its steamworks? Then maybe can be a success, other FPS like Section 8 and Gotham City Impostors were a fail because of GFWL and nobody play that

PsYcHo126
03-14-2012, 01:13 PM
Oh its steamworks? Then maybe can be a success, other FPS like Section 8 and Gotham City Impostors were a fail because of GFWL and nobody play that

True that nobody plays Section 8 anymore. Nope for GCI, many peoples are playing it ;) And don't come with "look at steamstats" now.

@Topic: I'm not sure what to think about this game. Looks pretty cool, but also a bit... mediocre. We'll see.

viralomega
03-14-2012, 01:30 PM
Im certainly interested, but idk what to think. With THQ behind it itll prolly be ♥♥♥♥♥ by DLC like all their recent games. the last DoW2 had a ♥♥♥♥load. 9 maps will prolly get old quick and being its on consoles too im concerned about how dumbed down this actually is

Fick
03-14-2012, 01:36 PM
True that nobody plays Section 8 anymore. Nope for GCI, many peoples are playing it ;) And don't come with "look at steamstats" now.

@Topic: I'm not sure what to think about this game. Looks pretty cool, but also a bit... mediocre. We'll see.

Well thats because GCI its only a few months old and has a famous franchise but its not a sucess.

PythonJones
03-14-2012, 01:48 PM
Alientrap is a great developer. They are the guys who make indivania for indie developers to sell their games.

Tell that to everyone that bought Capsized (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=1122), pretty sure most won't agree. There is more to being a good developer than just making a good game.

StreetFighter
03-14-2012, 01:54 PM
COD generation i guess
So quick to judge.....
IMO this is a cheap clone of UT3 and Q3. And I better play Quake Live instead.

roB:de
03-15-2012, 08:48 AM
looks like a bad replica of UT, in my opinion...

fobbs25
03-15-2012, 08:53 AM
Played it on Xbox. Pretty fun and similar to the Unreal games, with some pretty cool mutators/mods and uses Cryengine 3.

BaconSammich
03-15-2012, 09:13 AM
looks like a bad replica of UT, in my opinion...

why is it bad? When you haven't even played the game.

DoubleD
03-15-2012, 09:44 AM
http://www.nexuiz.com/

Added to coming soon. Anyone excited? Looks kewl :D


If I woke up tomorrow with my head sewn to the carpet, I wouldn’t be more excited than I am right now.

stinkytaco
03-15-2012, 10:12 AM
4 players VS?

What the hell is that!??!

The only decent Nexuiz games where 16+ players!

This is not nexuiz, it is a bad imposter!

Hi2u! Tw1TcH
03-22-2012, 09:06 PM
QuakeWorld and Quake 3 (not sure about Quake II or Quake 4) only required you to release and re-press the jump button while midair to bunnyhop successfully. This is really only incrementally harder than just holding a button; only a modicum of extra timing is involved. Warsow uses a "bunnyhop button", like Nexuiz, and it works fine there. The high skill ceiling of Quake has very little to do with with the actual low-level mechanics of bunnyhopping, and far more to do with weapon skill and speed/movement/map/item control. Nexuiz may have its share of problems, but I wouldn't place the "bunnyhop button" among them.

My impression is that the basic movement technique is to simply repeatedly jump for increased speed? (not including any mutators)

In regards to the Quake comparison, timing your jumps isn't what made the movement difficult, skillful, or rewarding. It was maximizing your strafe jump angle in combination of making sure your on the exact place of the map so your next 5 jumps are allowing you to be exactly where you want. Then you add in the rocket jumping and plasma climbing and the fact that the maps are completely and utterly designed around being a God at combining these things together (meaning the maps are designed to reward skill), and I would disagree with your assessment of Quake movement as a whole.

With this knowledge, then it is more accurate to say that the overall Nexuiz movement mechanics are dumbed down in comparison to Quake. That being said, so was PK movement, and PK ended up being exceptionally successful.

While Warsaw had some redeeming qualities, it ended up being a garbled mess or mechanics by trying way too hard to have skillful mechanics. And while I respect the team for their effort, it really was nothing more than a glorified Quake ripoff. I'm partly of the opinion that they would have had more success if they had dumbed down the movement slightly.

The bad thing about Quake for todays market is that it is unapproachable for newer players. They have been weened on games that absolutely refuse to allow players to have fast movement while honing a precision weapon. They look down on bunnyhopping, and moreso, the games themselves are not designed with movement mechanics whatsoever.

It will be interesting to see how this cheap little title works out in terms of retaining a player base. About keeping the Arena based shooter alive, Nexuiz looks like a solid effort.

4 players VS?

What the hell is that!??!

The only decent Nexuiz games where 16+ players!

This is not nexuiz, it is a bad imposter!

There is 1v1 and larger game modes as well.

spartan0078
03-22-2012, 09:09 PM
Saw that a few days ago. Looks like quake with even more crazy seizure inducing coulours!

Ill probably pass on it. Bhut its nice to see some twitch shooters coming back. Not all of us want endless COD clones.

Levi
03-22-2012, 09:11 PM
I'm not a fan of bunny hopping, but I'll probably get it just for being a skill based shooter instead of a levelling based shooter.

arisaka
03-22-2012, 09:31 PM
To be honest, I think I'll stick to Xonotic. Nothing can beat the Quake engines in when it comes to old school shooters.

sarcinelli
03-22-2012, 10:13 PM
Do yourselves a favor and give Tribes: Ascend a try, it's as old school as it gets these days.

https://account.hirezstudios.com/tribesascend/

ps.: It's FREE :cool:

Porcupeth
03-23-2012, 02:01 AM
Tell that to everyone that bought Capsized (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=1122), pretty sure most won't agree. There is more to being a good developer than just making a good game.

Huh, Capsized is good

BaconSammich
03-23-2012, 03:45 AM
Do yourselves a favor and give Tribes: Ascend a try, it's as old school as it gets these days.

https://account.hirezstudios.com/tribesascend/

ps.: It's FREE :cool:

Not really a corridor shooter. Tribes is great for oldschool but it's a little different to Quake or UT.

Squishpoke
03-23-2012, 04:39 AM
It'll be hard for any game to one-up UT3 for me.

But, I'll definitely give this game a shot. Still looks fun, and if it's even half as good as Q3/UT I'll be happy.

mestido
03-23-2012, 07:13 AM
10% off now, 8.99$

PythonJones
03-23-2012, 10:01 AM
Huh, Capsized is good

Read it again.

There is more to being a good developer than just making a good game.

They abandoned the game without fixing half the problems people reported, we where promised a patch ten months ago.

Getsuga Tensho
03-23-2012, 10:17 AM
The game is a lot of fun. I played the trial on XBLA when it was released. If they took the random mutators out though then it's be a lot more fun. Maybe if they put one or two buffs or abilities where the mutators are instead of random things that affect the whole game. This game is being marketed as competitive, randomness throws that out the window. It is a fun game though. The sniper is great fun to use.

Just had a look through the comments and from what I played, the game was fast paced when there's players who know what they're doing. Visually it looks great and things do take skill when you're playing against decent players. There is aim assist on the 360 version though sadly (I've played FPS games that don't have aim assist on the 360 such as TF2 and the game is so much better without it), I imaging this will be removed in the PC version however.

Fragems
03-23-2012, 10:25 AM
Thought this was supposed to be f2p? Used to be on IGNs free to play 2012 list but theyve removed it :P.

http://www.ign.com/wikis/free-to-play-games/Free-to-Play_in_2012_(A-L)

Think im gonna have to pass didnt really interest me when it was f2p looks to simple. Especially when there are games like Warface, Hawken, Mech Warrior Online and Tribes Ascend coming out for free this year.

Warface
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4c3OfvJTuw

Tribes Ascend
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oevWde_F-yU&feature=relmfu

Mech Warrior Online
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5vjxbBOphk&feature=related

Hawken
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEeI0bQiJWE

Cedge
03-23-2012, 11:21 AM
Tell that to everyone that bought Capsized (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=1122), pretty sure most won't agree. There is more to being a good developer than just making a good game.
They abandoned the game without fixing half the problems people reported, we where promised a patch ten months ago.
I think you're confused. Alientrap has nothing to do with this game, beyond licensing the name. I'll explain below.

Thought this was supposed to be f2p? Used to be on IGNs free to play 2012 list but theyve removed it :P.
This confusion comes up a lot. Allow me to explain.

The first thing you need to understand is that there are two distinct, different games called Nexuiz. The original Nexuiz was first released in 2005 (let's call this version "Nexuiz Prime," for the purposes of clarity), and was a free and open-source FPS deathmatch game running on a derivative of the open-source Quake engine called Darkplaces. The gameplay was fast and highly skill-oriented, heavily inspired by Quake and other classic PC deathmatch games.

The development was started in 2001 by a single person, Lee Vermeulen. After a while, Forest Hale, the author of the DarkPlaces engine fork, joined the project as well. They dubbed their team "AlienTrap." They released the initial version of Nexuiz Prime in 2005, and continued updating it through 2008. Around this time, more community members started working on the game, as well, and it continued to be updated as a free, open-source, community-supported game. After that, though, things started to get tricky.

In 2010, the rights to the name "Nexuiz," and a proprietary license to the source code, were sold by AlienTrap to a private company named IllFonic. IllFonic started to develop a new multiplatform game based on CryEngine3, using the "Nexuiz" name (let's call this game "Nexuiz 2012"). AlienTrap wanted to use the money to fund their other projects, as they tried to establish themselves as a commercial indie developer. I don't blame them for this (I loved Capsized, and their next game, Apotheon (http://www.alientrap.org/games/apotheon), looks stunning), and they were within their legal rights.

Not all of the community was terribly pleased by this, however, and there was quite a bit of drama at the time. Thus, the community forked the Nexuiz Prime source code into a new project called Xonotic (http://www.xonotic.org/), and have continued developing it (without Vermeulen or Hale) ever since.

So, in summary:
AlienTrap originally made a free, open-source deathmatch game called Nexuiz (Nexuiz Prime). They sold the name to IllFonic, who developed a new commercial game using the Nexuiz name, for PC and Xbox 360 (Nexuiz 2012). AlienTrap went on to develop other things, and is responsible for actual development of the new Nexuiz 2012. The original Nexuiz Prime community has continued to work on the original Nexuiz Prime source code, under the name Xonotic.

So, the original free game is still available under a different name, the new one is coming out soon, and AlienTrap isn't really involved with either.

Think im gonna have to pass didnt really interest me when it was f2p looks to simple.
Simple?? Yeah, maybe you're not constantly "ranking up" your Sergeant of Master Sergeants Most Important Person of Extreme Sergeants to the Max or tweaking your loadout or all that jazz, but Nexuiz, and other Quake-style deathmatch games, are not really what I'd call "simple." Or at least, if they are, they certainly counter any simplicity with an extreme reliance on player skill. These are not "simple" games.

Getsuga Tensho
03-23-2012, 11:26 AM
Simple?? Yeah, maybe you're not constantly "ranking up" your Sergeant of Master Sergeants Most Important Person of Extreme Sergeants to the Max or tweaking your loadout or all that jazz, but Nexuiz, and other Quake-style deathmatch games, are not really what I'd call "simple." Or at least, if they are, they certainly counter any simplicity with an extreme reliance on player skill. These are not "simple" games.

They are simple games which is what makes them great. Everything after the game is down to the players and how they use certain mechanics. The complexity comes from the players rather than the game. Quick to learn and play the game leaving the rest down to honing your skills and concentrating on how to out wit enemies. They do have the odd complicated thing to them but for the most part they're fairly simple which makes for good watching.

stinkytaco
03-23-2012, 11:34 AM
there is a HUGE Nexuiz community already.

It has also forked into the new project:
http://www.xonotic.org/

I hope the new Nexuis is not the Xbox version.
That is only a 4vs.4 P2P protocal.

The old nexuix could handle 32 players, because they used the Dark places engine.
(http://icculus.org/twilight/darkplaces/)

If you own Quake 1 be sure to download the above engine + all the texture paks!! Quake looks sexy with shadows and GLSL paralax shaders :)

HellAvenger
03-23-2012, 01:37 PM
i never got into FPS game until CS came out, and I sucked at CS.
Always prefer DOD, for respawning and bit more strategic due to more flags and people actually cooperating in random matches (since there is respawn, so you can respond with new strategy. In CS, you die... well new round and hope rushing A/B or long A will work. awper really kills it since no respawn. CT just sit there and waiting for you to pop out the door and bang one shot you)

These days I go back to CS, I can do pretty well since I played a lot of other shooting game. Now I enjoy a bit more since I get kills, and some server disabled awp.

Fick
03-23-2012, 01:39 PM
there is a HUGE Nexuiz community already.

It has also forked into the new project:
http://www.xonotic.org/

I hope the new Nexuis is not the Xbox version.
That is only a 4vs.4 P2P protocal.

The old nexuix could handle 32 players, because they used the Dark places engine.
(http://icculus.org/twilight/darkplaces/)

If you own Quake 1 be sure to download the above engine + all the texture paks!! Quake looks sexy with shadows and GLSL paralax shaders :)

This Nexuiz is the exact game that arrived to Xbox 360.

And man only 4vs4?, no online bots? I guess I pass,

viralomega
03-23-2012, 02:00 PM
I bought it because of this http://forums.nexuiz.com/index.php?/topic/391-irc-chat-logs-part-1/page__pid__3583#entry3583

FOV 90-120, map maker coming, possible steam workshop integration, many esport/tournament options and considerations, PC version is 15% faster than the laughable consoles versions theyre being told to make, dedicated servers(with custom rule sets) and matchamaking, etc

lately im just tired as hell of console focused games/shooters so im really looking forward to a real and recent arena shooter that takes skill

bankaiuser
03-23-2012, 06:00 PM
I'm gonna buy it too. :)

PsYcHo126
03-23-2012, 06:07 PM
I bought it because of this http://forums.nexuiz.com/index.php?/topic/391-irc-chat-logs-part-1/page__pid__3583#entry3583

FOV 90-120, map maker coming, possible steam workshop integration, many esport/tournament options and considerations, PC version is 15% faster than the laughable consoles versions theyre being told to make, dedicated servers(with custom rule sets) and matchamaking, etc

lately im just tired as hell of console focused games/shooters so im really looking forward to a real and recent arena shooter that takes skill

That sounds good! Think I'm also getting it.

Levi
03-23-2012, 06:43 PM
Yeah, I think I'll pick it up. It is only 9 dollars after all. I may not be a fan of bunny hopping and the mutators idea, but the rest of it sounds pretty great.

Fragems
03-23-2012, 07:10 PM
Simple?? Yeah, maybe you're not constantly "ranking up" your Sergeant of Master Sergeants Most Important Person of Extreme Sergeants to the Max or tweaking your loadout or all that jazz, but Nexuiz, and other Quake-style deathmatch games, are not really what I'd call "simple." Or at least, if they are, they certainly counter any simplicity with an extreme reliance on player skill. These are not "simple" games.

Troll much?

This game is what i consider simple from what ive seen. Hell I consider all run and gun games simple. That doesnt necesarilly mean they are bad. Hell i have over 1000 hours in Halo CE for the PC i consider that game simple but that didnt keep me from playing it for years. My opinion obviously differs from yours but hell we are all entitled to our own opinions.

As for the F2P issue I know that there was a 2005 version that was F2P. What i was saying is some guy at IGN screwed up and originally had this version listed on their F2P 2012 list. No big suprise their they seem to run on rumors and gossip alot over there and as usual probably didnt check their facts before publishing.

Headcrab_Zer0
03-23-2012, 09:45 PM
I'd pick this up if I wasn't broke. :(

I assume that custom server setting would include player counts?

DrRiceBowl
03-23-2012, 10:03 PM
hmm me and roommate will prob pick up, looking for new mp games to play