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Ryanheart
04-26-2012, 11:51 PM
I dont think it even exsists in this silly game, here i am expecting a fun 1st ever pvp game with 0 wins, i get paired up wioth a guy with 2 wins, AND IM VSING TWO GUYS WITH 400+ WINS EACH.....WHAT THE HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL?!?!?!?!???! Not only that the amount of 2 vs 3 3 vs 4 2 vs 4 games ive been in....and this is at the loading screen so you already know its a loss!!! I like the game so far kinda alil slow but god damn match making!

Spattercat
04-27-2012, 07:20 AM
The matches are based on total units, not total players. Seeing two vs three at the loading screen doesn't mean someone is outnumbered.

Ryanheart
04-27-2012, 07:30 AM
still its stupid though, obviously the team with 400+ wins vs a 0 win guy is gonna be fully equiped, ive so far played about 20 games and there hasnt been one game fo rme where the team with less players have won

Zorlond
04-27-2012, 07:40 AM
The matches are based on total units, not total players. Seeing two vs three at the loading screen doesn't mean someone is outnumbered.

Not always, no. But I've been in matches before where it was 200 total soldiers vs 300 total soldiers. Not exactly fun. But then, I've also been in a 2 player vs 4 player match as the smaller side... And won. Heh. We totally trashed them, too. :)

Like all automatic matchmaker systems, this one isn't perfect. You're just going to have to accept the occassional mis-match. Off-peak hours are going to see more of such battles than otherwise.

krutyvus
04-27-2012, 07:43 AM
It is not an usual case that you met experienced players in the battle.
All players are divided into different tiers that take into consideration army rating, number of units and level of Leader.

Probably that guys created party with some rookies in order to access your Tier.
Thanks for the report we will investigate this issue!

Ryanheart
04-27-2012, 07:49 AM
That wouldnt suprise me and quite frankyl isnt fair, im upto about 10 or so winsand im not lieing when i say this, i vsed someone with OVER 1000 WINS like cmon thats just plane silly and yes, we were slaughtered

Spattercat
04-27-2012, 08:21 AM
No, I've seen it numerous times... going against a premade (clan) team, each with over 20 victories while no one on my team had more than 5. In fact, we got the same premade three matches in a row, yesterday. Bothersome.

Spattercat
04-27-2012, 08:22 AM
Was a clan called SH, if I recall, if it helps looking into the issue.

Izibaar
04-27-2012, 03:44 PM
The matchmaking is really the worst I have ever seen. I play it a little longer than the release at steam. My worst match I had was 3vs2. Me with ~20 wins and the other two <5. Against 2 from one clan with 2500 wins each.
And another game I have very often is that one player got 500 wins and the others are all <10. Maybe one player with some more wins. Those are nice and fair games until the two units join the fight, controlled by the 500 wins player. Two invulnerable units :(

On the other side I played some games where the lower players crushed the stronger players. I think it is when the lower players get some more units. Or the strong players join with only one unit.

And to be honest. This game can't have a good matchmaking. When two armies with lot of archers play together, they will win against infantry based armies. And lose against cavalry based armies. That is the price of free army creation.

Sentinarian
04-28-2012, 02:33 AM
Matchmaking is a general problem for games... I've stopped playing World of Tanks because of it.

Although I've only played 2 battles I could immeditately tell this would become an issue here aswell... First battle was a perfect example of nice matchmaking. 6 evenly balanced teams pitted against eachother and resulted in a nice tactical victory.
Second battle pitted 3 teams of <10 victories against a team of 3 with one >1600 wins, one >500 wins and one with 20 wins. Naturally, we were oblitterated. The +1600 wins guy had a unit (something troll like) that just ravaged through our armies. We pitted all we had on them and managed to kill 1 of the 4 creatures in that unit. Just 1... This should be looked into in the future. I will keep playing though. I love the game!

krutyvus
04-28-2012, 03:39 AM
We found the problem.
Experienced and strong players with hundreds of victories create parties with rookies. As a result they play in Rookie Tier.
But such parties should not play in this tier, they should play in higher ones.
Will fix it ASAP. Thanks for reports guys.

Zorlond
04-28-2012, 03:48 AM
I'm not 100% sure it's always deliberate, though. Sure, the one time I've seen a non-NPC Giant in the game so far was vs a team of three, two with 60+ victories between them with the third a 0-victory nobody. (obviously, my side was massacred)

But there have also been times where I get paired with someone with 30-40 victories with my 3-4 victory test army, completely out of the blue. Obviously, there needs to be some more checks in the matchmaking, at least to be certain that those with Giants aren't facing lowbies...

Ryanheart
04-29-2012, 03:21 AM
ok this issue needs to be fixed URGENTLY its really ruining the game, i just played a game where everyone on my team was under 15 wins it was a 3 vs 3, the other team were ALL over 150 wins and each team HAD A FRICKEN JUGGERNAUT PLUSSSSS WE HAD 320 MEN THEY HAD 380. HOW IS THIS EVEN CALLED 'MATCH MAKING'

Zorlond
04-29-2012, 03:39 AM
Yeah, I'm seeing quite a few 2v3 where the 3 most certainly outnumbers the 2...

Ryanheart
05-04-2012, 07:22 PM
bumb just incase people forgot :p