View Full Version : SMNC Improvements
mrnails
04-27-2012, 05:21 AM
1. Provide a good tutorial map that describes everything you need to know per class on what to do to win the match.
2. Better scoring for healers or just add in some healing numbers on the score board.
3. We NEED a more fluent transition when healing. As it is right now if you switch to the healing gun and immediately start healing you WON'T heal. This happens all the time. The game requires you to wait a good 1 sec then click before it will heal.
4. While queuing up for a match if someone drops out we all drop out. Why not keep us all in the game and just fill in the ppl who drop?
5. Once you find the person you want to invite to a match and highlight them before you can invite that person the people list has already scrolled and now you are no longer on the person you want to invite.
Mr. Reid
04-27-2012, 08:55 AM
1. Pretty sure that's being worked on
2. It's already there. You receive money for healing
3. It's fine as is
4. Agreed
5. Can you fix this so I feel like I'm actually reading something.
As usual your feedback is better on the Uberent (http://www.uberent.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=42&sid=f58733845fe3a058746b4d3691a50f74) forums. Although I recommend you have 100 games under your belt before you decide to post any ideas on the forums.
NuclearKangaroo
04-27-2012, 10:09 AM
i agree with number 3
the rest is mostly stuff that wouldve been there at release if the game wasnt forced out of beta due to the glitch with the invites, its sure to come sometime down the line
also you do get rewards for healing, you get dem moneys, its a bit unfair towards the combat girl though since unless shes healing more than 1 people you usually get less money for healing than support
Mr. Reid
04-27-2012, 12:17 PM
i agree with number 3
the rest is mostly stuff that wouldve been there at release if the game wasnt forced out of beta due to the glitch with the invites, its sure to come sometime down the line
also you do get rewards for healing, you get dem moneys, its a bit unfair towards the combat girl though since unless shes healing more than 1 people you usually get less money for healing than support
That's why at the start of the round you have to decide "Am I going to be able to keep my team together to use CG's heal effectively"
Honestly right now I'd say CG is the worst of the three defenders. All she has going for her is fortify and lasers. Support and Leo's utility is far greater however CG can defend herself easier then Leo. Support has the best of both worlds though so normally it's best to go him if you play defender. Again though that's just my opinion and it varies per player.
mrnails
04-27-2012, 12:43 PM
The Red.
1. Pretty sure that's being worked on good, it's needed
2. It's already there. You receive money for healing then it needs buffed due to i'm a healing mad man (girl), but yet receive limited monies.
3. It's fine as is no it's not, u must not heal
4. Agreed jackpot
5. Can you fix this so I feel like I'm actually reading something.lol, you're right. not sure if i can make the word better or not. In the LOBBY looking for ppl to join your team if I see YOUR name come up (or anyone's for that matter) if I highlight your name then right click to add you to my team by the time I get to add you the highlight is no longer on your name so I might invite someone else.
As usual your feedback is better on the Uberent (http://www.uberent.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=42&sid=f58733845fe3a058746b4d3691a50f74) forums (probably) . Although I recommend you have 100 games under your belt before you decide to post any ideas on the forums. why? the game is brand new. if the ppl over there are so high and mighty i don't want to associate with them in the 1st place.
Mr. Reid
04-27-2012, 01:27 PM
The Red.
Actually for 3.) I do heal. The real question is does your team take unnecessary damage or do they just sit there and take it. If you have to constantly heal your teammates then there's something wrong there.
AraxisHT
04-27-2012, 01:31 PM
As usual your feedback is better on the Uberent forums (probably) . Although I recommend you have 100 games under your belt before you decide to post any ideas on the forums. why? the game is brand new. if the ppl over there are so high and mighty i don't want to associate with them in the 1st place.
No it's definitely a good a idea to have a significant amount of playtime so that you understand the game. The game is very complex and a lot of newb ideas just won't work but seem like they should if you aren't familiar with the game yet. As for the game being "brand new" people have been playing this game for months. There is nothing "high and mighty" about it, it's common sense (i.e. know what you're talking about before you open your mouth).
Kyorisu
04-27-2012, 01:32 PM
1. Get rid of matchmaking.
2. Dedicated servers anyone can host.
3. Server browser.
Game fixed.
"hurr lets make a pc game lol with the matchmakings"
Idiots. Matchmaking never works, ever.
There is nothing "high and mighty" about it, it's common sense (i.e. know what you're talking about before you open your mouth).
No there is quite a distinct aura of elitism around the official forums. I don't need a gazillion games under my belt to realise what is and isn't broken with the game. Some people can analyse things better than others.
thegrimpiggy
04-27-2012, 01:51 PM
Money gained from healing has been nerfed as it was simply to much before from what I understand.
mrnails
04-27-2012, 02:11 PM
The real question is does your team take unnecessary damage or do they just sit there and take it. If you have to constantly heal your teammates then there's something wrong there.
Most matches I've played so far it seems barely enough people know wtf they're doing and therefore take both unnecessary damage AND just sit there and take it.
Off Topic: :mad:
NO ONE has mics either. For the life of me I can't understand why people play a team based game, but yet no mic. Calling out help, lanes, heals & incs over the mic would help the team tremendously.
Mr. Reid
04-27-2012, 03:31 PM
Most matches I've played so far it seems barely enough people know wtf they're doing and therefore take both unnecessary damage AND just sit there and take it.
Off Topic: :mad:
NO ONE has mics either. For the life of me I can't understand why people play a team based game, but yet no mic. Calling out help, lanes, heals & incs over the mic would help the team tremendously.
Well to hopefully reply respectfully..
Most players that started playing are bad and will either get better or quit after losing so much because they failed to understand the game.
As for microphones. The sound quality in SMNC is kinda meh for mics so a lot of people use mumble/team speak/ventrillo including myself.
When I play though and want to help new players I will use my in game mic though. When they refuse to listen and swear profanities at me for trying to "Tell them what to do" that's when I stop trying to help.
FriedGerry
04-27-2012, 06:10 PM
Money gained from healing has been nerfed as it was simply to much before from what I understand.
Healing used to give you a full coin but now it only gets you .1 :( (ithink)
Judgement
04-28-2012, 06:36 PM
Healing was just recently nerfed down because it was giving supports to much money and he could basically feed himself by healing the whole game, I think its in a good spot now because you need to switch between killing bots and healing which is how its suppose to work anyway.
Also seriously complaining about matchmaking in a dota style game this is not the type of game you drop in and out on, all the games you play are on servers anyway their is no point to having a server browser and you can already host by making a custom game if you want to play with friends.
NuclearKangaroo
04-28-2012, 08:07 PM
Healing was just recently nerfed down because it was giving supports to much money and he could basically feed himself by healing the whole game, I think its in a good spot now because you need to switch between killing bots and healing which is how its suppose to work anyway.
Also seriously complaining about matchmaking in a dota style game this is not the type of game you drop in and out on, all the games you play are on servers anyway their is no point to having a server browser and you can already host by making a custom game if you want to play with friends.
thats one thing i like about this game, medics are not as passive as in TF2
randomnpc15
04-28-2012, 08:19 PM
1. Get rid of matchmaking.
2. Dedicated servers anyone can host.
3. Server browser.
Game fixed.
"hurr lets make a pc game lol with the matchmakings"
Idiots. Matchmaking never works, ever.
Except for in every MOBA game and RTS ever. By the by, this is a MOBA game and the matchmaking is fine.
As for healing giving you money, you need to tag bots too (tap them and you'll get bot kill assists for the next second). Defenders aren't just healbots in this game, you need to be actively playing to do well and not just afk healing.
Mr. Reid
04-28-2012, 09:23 PM
Healing was just recently nerfed down because it was giving supports to much money and he could basically feed himself by healing the whole game, I think its in a good spot now because you need to switch between killing bots and healing which is how its suppose to work anyway.
Also seriously complaining about matchmaking in a dota style game this is not the type of game you drop in and out on, all the games you play are on servers anyway their is no point to having a server browser and you can already host by making a custom game if you want to play with friends.
Actually Support originally only received money for healing health and not armor. The update that gave him money for armor also gave him too much money for health and thus it was changed to where it is now. It's better then the initial way of money but worse then buff. It's fine as is in other words as it's still a buff.
Doin' it live (http://www.uberent.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=21113) patch
Bellcross
04-28-2012, 09:52 PM
As for microphones. The sound quality in SMNC is kinda meh for mics so a lot of people use mumble/team speak/ventrillo including myself.
Witch makes you part of the problem when it comes to voice chat. Kinda hard to hear you when wont talk back, with you on mumble and everything.
Mr. Reid
04-28-2012, 10:48 PM
Witch makes you part of the problem when it comes to voice chat. Kinda hard to hear you when wont talk back, with you on mumble and everything.
If anything you're the problem. If you don't want to bother trying to communicate with me my way I won't bother wasting my time with you. Also just because someone is on mumble/teamspeak/ventrillo doesn't mean they cannot speak in game chat.
The majority of people use mumble/vent/team speak also. Think before you speak seriously.
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