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avatar9103
05-09-2012, 05:21 PM
I have a project in school and I'm suppose to gather information on careers, but I can't find any info using google so I need your help.

I need someone to tell me

1. Gross annual income
2. Number of vacation days
3. Number of sick days
4. Health insurance (how much it covers)
5. Life insurance
6. Retirement plan

They don't have to be from any specific company. If you know anything please help.

Washell
05-09-2012, 05:35 PM
I need info for computer engineering

I can't find any info using google

Don't pursue a career in computer engineering. And while they don't have to be from a specific company, do give a country because it's big difference whether you're talking Canada or Brazil.

avatar9103
05-09-2012, 05:37 PM
Don't pursue a career in computer engineering. And while they don't have to be from a specific company, do give a country because it's big difference whether you're talking Canada or Brazil.

America and why not pursue a career in it? (It's just for a project I'm kinda still thinking of what to major in once I go to college)

Blackops
05-09-2012, 05:38 PM
Way too broad. A lot of companies are different. One in the gaming industry might pay a lot more versus one that does banking. Then again, it could also be the opposite.

Average though?

Annual income is probably $60-80,000
Vacation days - a week or so worth
Sick days - a week or so worth
Health Insurance, Life Insurance, Retirement - varies, some might do dental and others might not. It just depends on how big the company is. Some might have a 401k and others might not.

avatar9103
05-09-2012, 05:41 PM
Way too broad. A lot of companies are different. One in the gaming industry might pay a lot more versus one that does banking. Then again, it could also be the opposite.

Average though?

Annual income is probably $60-80,000
Vacation days - a week or so worth
Sick days - a week or so worth
Health Insurance, Life Insurance, Retirement - varies, some might do dental and others might not. It just depends on how big the company is. Some might have a 401k and others might not.

I know it varies I just kinda need an average for the insurance and retirement. If you know the info for computer engineers in the gaming industry then I guess tell me that one.

Washell
05-09-2012, 05:48 PM
America and why not pursue a career in it?

Because if you can't work Google or think logically to take this (http://jobsearch.monster.com/search/?q=computer-engineer) step, you're not showing a lot of aptitude for it.

Blackops
05-09-2012, 05:49 PM
I know it varies I just kinda need an average for the insurance and retirement. If you know the info for computer engineers in the gaming industry then I guess tell me that one.

I'm not really that sure. You'll have to ask an actual computer engineer.

avatar9103
05-09-2012, 06:08 PM
Because if you can't work Google or think logically to take this (http://jobsearch.monster.com/search/?q=computer-engineer) step, you're not showing a lot of aptitude for it.

Never in my life have I ever met such a huge ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. :)

Kelshir
05-09-2012, 06:34 PM
I know it varies I just kinda need an average for the insurance and retirement. If you know the info for computer engineers in the gaming industry then I guess tell me that one.

There is no average. Every company is different in the benefits they offer.

There is literally hundreds of possible plans.

avatar9103
05-09-2012, 06:53 PM
I know I guess just pick one this assignment is too time consuming and I'm starting to care less and less about it with each passing hour.

gossamer
05-09-2012, 07:41 PM
There is no average. Every company is different in the benefits they offer.

There is literally hundreds of possible plans.

Yeah that's what I've found about this information as well.

When I was in high school I researched programmer jobs and how much they pay. You will generally start at a gross of $40,000 to $60,000, but you can easily make up to nearly $150,000 depending on the company you work for and how good you are at your job.

One of my professors that got laid of last year (our program is getting cancelled) is now at a job as a database designer making nearly $150,000/yr


I know I guess just pick one this assignment is too time consuming and I'm starting to care less and less about it with each passing hour.

You aren't cut out for the IT field bro, stay away, stay far far away. Have you thought about the arts instead?

avatar9103
05-09-2012, 09:55 PM
I suck at art and kinda have already decided to try my hand in computer engineering.

smash
05-09-2012, 10:03 PM
What do you mean by computer engineer? You want to work with hardware and embedded systems?

Or do you really mean computer science? Designing software systems?

Computer engineering and computer science are mixed up a lot by most people, and they are two very different things.

iltsoc
05-09-2012, 10:13 PM
Are you talking about computer science (software, writing.programs etc.) Or computer hardware engineering(making/designing computer parts )

Computer engineering is too broad to get a understanding of what you want to do.

Baron_Fel
05-09-2012, 10:27 PM
Computer engineering is where its at. Ill let you know what my benefits are soon as I graduate and get a job in ~2-3 years.

avatar9103
05-10-2012, 06:16 AM
I'm talking about hardware.

~~ArdEnuff~~
05-10-2012, 06:42 AM
Question and career is too vague to be meaningful.

masterchef341
05-10-2012, 07:03 AM
There is no average. Every company is different in the benefits they offer.

There is literally hundreds of possible plans.

obviously doesn't know what average means.

:rolleyes:

M33CROB
05-10-2012, 09:13 AM
I have a project in school and I'm suppose to gather information on careers, but I can't find any info using google so I need your help.

I need someone to tell me

1. Gross annual income
2. Number of vacation days
3. Number of sick days
4. Health insurance (how much it covers)
5. Life insurance
6. Retirement plan

They don't have to be from any specific company. If you know anything please help.

How could you not find what you need with Google? Start here: http://www.bls.gov/

Directx10
05-10-2012, 01:07 PM
I know I guess just pick one this assignment is too time consuming and I'm starting to care less and less about it with each passing hour.

Get off steam and do your homework! ;)

Kiarash
05-10-2012, 01:24 PM
Computer engineering is where its at. Ill let you know what my benefits are soon as I graduate and get a job in ~2-3 years.

You heard him OP, procrastinate your project for 3 years.

MrChris
05-10-2012, 01:36 PM
computer engineering is a bit broad of a description really ha; although then again so was my degree ha

Blackops is however right though that some companies will value your job much more highly than others, that said IT professionals tend to get more in terms of £££

I did a Computing degree (here in the UK), it wasn't completely software focussed like computer science, it also had many modules based on aspects such as hardware, networking and even business and financials; it was also far more work based (as in actually doing work for real people) than other courses - which potential employers seem to like a lot (oh you know how to deal with braindead customers/end users, awesome)

but it goes without saying, if you are more interested in general software (not necessarily web) then computer science is for you, I myself couldn't stand Computer science and I have met a fair few people with CS degrees that don't have a lot of thought in the business side of things

because like it or not, a hell of a lot of IT jobs are interlinked with more business focussed aspects like project management etc

rather than Computer Engineer, it would be more helpful to know the modules or subjects that you would be pursuing during the course tbh

as for moneys, I'm in the UK so I have no idea what Health Insurance is or why I would need it, otherwise aspects such as Retirement plans will vary wildly, they are often the first thing to be targeted if the company starts to struggle though ha

for my job I think I get something like 26days holiday every year (might be wrong on that), sick days who knows (I really should read my contract more in depth), I get paid currently around £20000 a year, goes up to 24 in a few months then to about 30 after that and I'm currently a programmer essentially (working in PrintNet T - is to do with digital printing, document design etc). I can't complain really since I can walk to work, is my first proper job since getting my degree and the work isn't hard or stressful and the people are nice

if I wanted stress I would work in software development though ha

You got to realise though that you can get a huge variety of answers, you can get paid thousands just to create a webs

avatar9103
05-10-2012, 02:52 PM
computer engineering is a bit broad of a description really ha; although then again so was my degree ha

Blackops is however right though that some companies will value your job much more highly than others, that said IT professionals tend to get more in terms of £££

I did a Computing degree (here in the UK), it wasn't completely software focussed like computer science, it also had many modules based on aspects such as hardware, networking and even business and financials; it was also far more work based (as in actually doing work for real people) than other courses - which potential employers seem to like a lot (oh you know how to deal with braindead customers/end users, awesome)

but it goes without saying, if you are more interested in general software (not necessarily web) then computer science is for you, I myself couldn't stand Computer science and I have met a fair few people with CS degrees that don't have a lot of thought in the business side of things

because like it or not, a hell of a lot of IT jobs are interlinked with more business focussed aspects like project management etc

rather than Computer Engineer, it would be more helpful to know the modules or subjects that you would be pursuing during the course tbh

as for moneys, I'm in the UK so I have no idea what Health Insurance is or why I would need it, otherwise aspects such as Retirement plans will vary wildly, they are often the first thing to be targeted if the company starts to struggle though ha

for my job I think I get something like 26days holiday every year (might be wrong on that), sick days who knows (I really should read my contract more in depth), I get paid currently around £20000 a year, goes up to 24 in a few months then to about 30 after that and I'm currently a programmer essentially (working in PrintNet T - is to do with digital printing, document design etc). I can't complain really since I can walk to work, is my first proper job since getting my degree and the work isn't hard or stressful and the people are nice

if I wanted stress I would work in software development though ha

You got to realise though that you can get a huge variety of answers, you can get paid thousands just to create a webs

Creating software does seem cool and all thought. It's just I kinda also want to make the hardware. I'm sure it feels nice having people use the hardware that you helped develop.

The_new_guy
05-10-2012, 03:01 PM
Your question is too broad. Hell, in the US working in another county could weigh in on your vacation days, income, etc.. Not to mention retirement plans. As someone who works with computers and LOVES his job, I would say only pursue a career in computers if it's what you love! I go almost every other week to the mountains to go hiking. However, as much as I like hiking I would never be a DNR officer or some type of ranger.


Lastly, "Computer Engineer" is a very broad title:
Hardware?
Software?
Developer?
Tester?
End user?
Repair tech?
Floor associate at Best Buy?

chaoticpix93
05-10-2012, 04:17 PM
If you look at your local college website they have tons of career information. Especially your two year community colleges. They hide these links under 'career services'.

Also look for the Department of labor statistics and government programs. Like the one for ohio is the Ohio jobs and family services that has tons of this information.

the Occupational Outlook handbook's been around for years and a staple of anyone looking for career info: http://www.bls.gov/oco/

I'd throw out the entire list my school came up with but I'd be afraid they'd accuse me of spamming the thread.

MrChris
05-10-2012, 04:29 PM
Creating software does seem cool and all thought. It's just I kinda also want to make the hardware. I'm sure it feels nice having people use the hardware that you helped develop.

software can be great if you enjoy it sure, but it also has the potential to be a nightmare, look at what some game developers have to go through lol (the amount of overtime is unreal)

I too was always much much more interested in the hardware aspect, unfortunately, from my experience, hardware related jobs are quite a bit more rare, to non existant

if you asked me for example, if it was easy to get a job working with Intel (hell computer science might actually be useful for that) I would point you in the direction of the almighty ceiling cat

avatar9103
05-10-2012, 07:36 PM
Your question is too broad. Hell, in the US working in another county could weigh in on your vacation days, income, etc.. Not to mention retirement plans. As someone who works with computers and LOVES his job, I would say only pursue a career in computers if it's what you love! I go almost every other week to the mountains to go hiking. However, as much as I like hiking I would never be a DNR officer or some type of ranger.


Lastly, "Computer Engineer" is a very broad title:
Hardware?
Software?
Developer?
Tester?
End user?
Repair tech?
Floor associate at Best Buy?

Well I love learning about computers and computer parts. It got me into making my own computer from scratch.

iltsoc
05-10-2012, 08:14 PM
well op I'm not sure what age group you're in or if you're in college or not, it mite be in the thread somewhere but I didn't see it.

But if you want to learn a little bit of computer hardware, and computer science at the same time you could try to learn assembler you can learn it here (http://www.acm.uiuc.edu/sigwin/old/workshops/winasmtut.pdf)

But if you've never messed with programming this mite be a little bit difficult to just dive into. you could start with another higher level language but that would only be helpful if you think you'll be dealing with software.

avatar9103
05-10-2012, 08:43 PM
well op I'm not sure what age group you're in or if you're in college or not, it mite be in the thread somewhere but I didn't see it.

But if you want to learn a little bit of computer hardware, and computer science at the same time you could try to learn assembler you can learn it here (http://www.acm.uiuc.edu/sigwin/old/workshops/winasmtut.pdf)

But if you've never messed with programming this mite be a little bit difficult to just dive into. you could start with another higher level language but that would only be helpful if you think you'll be dealing with software.

Thanks I'm in my last year of high school I graduate in 3 weeks.

jsmucha
05-10-2012, 09:15 PM
It's also really cool and puts anyone else's career to shame if you start talking about it. :)

-Think most IT professional jobs do this. ;]

avatar9103
05-10-2012, 11:57 PM
I am a computer engineer. I work for a Government organisation. I do a lot of hardware design, VHDl, that sort of thing. It's great work and I'm honestly glad and feel a bit lucky that I got what I did. One benefit of being an engineer is that you aren't easily replaceable, particularly with something as specialized as what I do. IT work (which I've also done for a couple of years) feels very limiting and honestly not something I'd want to do as a career, plus everyone's at the risk of being outsourced so why put yourself under that stress? Aim for a challenging job and it'll reward you, and computer engineering can do just that.

It's also really cool and puts anyone else's career to shame if you start talking about it. :)

So what do you do when making hardware? I'm kinda curious.