I feel sorry for the devs...

[Antichrist XVII]

Not like any of you people ♥♥♥♥♥ing about this game (most of which have probably never played it and just watched some guy on youtube to get "your" opinion of it) could make anything better. If you don't like it or think it is stupid, don't play it, and go do something else instead of coming here to insult people.

[GamingAwesome1]

Not like any of you people ♥♥♥♥♥ing about this game (most of which have probably never played it and just watched some guy on youtube to get "your" opinion of it) could make anything better. If you don't like it or think it is stupid, don't play it, and go do something else instead of coming here to insult people.

The "Let's see you do better" argument is always a ridiculous cop out argument employed by people under the delusion that an opinion from a non-expert in a given field is not valid because they've never worked in it. This is total nonsense and always has been, why do people keep using this?

Also, minor hypocrisy occurring with the "Your opinion doesn't matter because you haven't played it" followed by "If you don't like it, don't come here to complain about it", again a ridiculous logical fallacy to try and filter out any negative criticism that could be had, people who haven't played it can't give thoughts on what turned them away from the game immediately (which in this case would be absolutely everything) and those who have played and disliked it aren't "allowed" to because "Don't Like, Don't Play".

[Antichrist XVII]

Also, minor hypocrisy occurring with the "Your opinion doesn't matter because you haven't played it" followed by "If you don't like it, don't come here to complain about it", again a ridiculous logical fallacy to try and filter out any negative criticism that could be had

How is that either hypocritical or not logical? Say there are 15 people, 10 come here to bash it, 5 of which haven't played it. The 5 that have played it - don't waste your time bashing it if you didn't like it. The 5 that didn't - learn to form your own opinion and not just listen to some guy with a youtube account.

[GamingAwesome1]

How is that either hypocritical or not logical? Say there are 15 people, 10 come here to bash it, 5 of which haven't played it. The 5 that have played it - don't waste your time bashing it if you didn't like it. The 5 that didn't - learn to form your own opinion and not just listen to some guy with a youtube account.

It's a ridiculous dichotomy that doesn't allow anyone with a negative opinion to express it. If they were turned off the game before they played it, that's a no-no because they can't express an opinion on something they haven't played. If they played and didn't like it, they shouldn't say so because that's a waste of time.

It's an incredibly silly and entirely illogical argument and needs to die.

Also, really, what do you hope to gain from this? Brownie points for white knighting for the devs? I really hate to say this but as a philosophy it actually has value but haters will always hate and trying to stop it is absolutely impossible.

[Antichrist XVII]

It's a ridiculous dichotomy that doesn't allow anyone with a negative opinion to express it. If they were turned off the game before they played it, that's a no-no because they can't express an opinion on something they haven't played. If they played and didn't like it, they shouldn't say so because that's a waste of time.

It's an incredibly silly and entirely illogical argument and needs to die.

Also, really, what do you hope to gain from this? Brownie points for white knighting for the devs? I really hate to say this but as a philosophy it actually has value but haters will always hate and trying to stop it is absolutely impossible.

What do you hope to gain for commenting on this? Seems pretty hypocritical to me that you come back with an illogical argument saying that what my post is about is an illogical argument. Ironic.

[GamingAwesome1]

What do you hope to gain for commenting on this? Seems pretty hypocritical to me that you come back with an illogical argument saying that what my post is about is an illogical argument. Ironic.

Yeah, fine fair enough that does result in a fairly circular argument.

Now kindly stop dodging the point that your original premise is flawed and exclusionary to anyone possessing a negative opinion on the game.

[Jip_Bip_Jo]

What do you hope to gain for commenting on this? Seems pretty hypocritical to me that you come back with an illogical argument saying that what my post is about is an illogical argument. Ironic.

Not only are your arguments terribad, you're not even using irony in the proper sense of the word.

As someone who makes better posts than you, I'm fully qualified to express my dissatisfaction with your posts, by the way.

[Zephon]

You guys seem to be focusing on the wrong part of his post.

The second part was the most important.

As bad as the game is alot of people need to let it go.

Its not the first bad game and its not going to be the last. There are plenty of ways to give feedback without insults and oddly enough not everyone has to carry the torch and save everyone else from playing the game by constantly bashing it and the devs on the forums.

[in.meinem.turm.]

As bad as the game is alot of people need to let it go.

We cannot. Other people may make the worst decision of their life and buy this if we don't remind them of how awful this mod is. We cannot let it go because somebody expects money. For this. When there are a ton of better free mods out there.

[Clord]

We cannot. Other people may make the worst decision of their life and buy this if we don't remind them of how awful this mod is. We cannot let it go because somebody expects money. For this. When there are a ton of better free mods out there.

Expect in literal sense it is not a mod. But you have a point. It is not like their funding is enough to fix this game anyways if they want to make second game before going out of the business.

[ElfShotTheFood]

We cannot. Other people may make the worst decision of their life and buy this if we don't remind them of how awful this mod is. We cannot let it go because somebody expects money. For this. When there are a ton of better free mods out there.

The worst decision of people's lives would be spending $10 on a bad computer game? I realize you're exaggerating to make a point, but come on now. :p

[davestanley]

Expect in literal sense it is not a mod. But you have a point. It is not like their funding is enough to fix this game anyways if they want to make second game before going out of the business.

I really have to say that the game does seem to rely heavily on Left 4 Dead 2 like a mod. Pathfinding looks almost completely identical, revive bar and system is pretty much the same too, remnants of weapons that were replaced by the Zap-Gun-Thing and not to mention an old video about Dark Artz that showed the game being run as Left 4 Dead 2 (although you could argue that it was just for a bit of testing and for helping to formulate a rough idea about the game).

[in.meinem.turm.]

As someone who has an over inflated ego, your opinion means absolutely nothing. Plus, this game can't possibly be any worse than anything BioWare has made.

I have no idea what you are talking about. Bioware has a ton of well made games. The point they started putting out games that are sub-par was when EA entered the scene. (After Dragon Age 1 was finished)

[KSMF]

Funny, because anybody that's played a game before has higher qualifications than the developers of this game. So yes, anybody here could make a better game than this.

Ok, I can't wait to see what game you make, can I be a betatester :rolleyes:

[Doob]

A lot of the people on this forum remind me of the nonconformists from south park.

[Jip_Bip_Jo]

Doob's here and he's dishing out the sick burns!

[Enigma314]

What really saddens me is the lack of constructive criticism that people are giving here. If you think a game is bad then you should be able to say why. It doesn't matter if you own the game or not, you can still form a reasonable opinion on the game design by watching videos.

Accusing the devs of being racist and besmearing them isn't helping anybody.

[Jip_Bip_Jo]

Accusing the devs of being racist and besmearing them isn't helping anybody.

I don't think anybody seriously accused the devs of racism outside of an admittedly unintentional sort that's more the result of not thinking about things rather than any sort of malice.

On to the rest of your point, the issues with the game have been noted; at this point we're starting to get developer silence on bonehead moves alongside silently locked threads.

[sswam]

What really saddens me is the lack of constructive criticism that people are giving here.

Yeah, I say good on them for having a go and making a game. Good luck to them with improving it, I hope they can somehow make it better.

[graspee]

The reason people can't let it go when bad games are bad is because we know about much better games that have been for one reason or another turned down by steam, so that rankles. Also if they paid a fair bit of money for this game, (as opposed to getting it in the bundle) they feel ripped off, so they aren't going to be predisposed to sitting quietly by, are they?

[in.meinem.turm.]

I have the first 3 Be Mine bundles but I will not get this one. I don't want my account to be staines by this game forever.