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Joe521
07-20-2012, 09:47 PM
I was thinking 3 monitors with a resolution of 2560x2048 (that's for a single monitor, not sure what all 3 put together would be) and playing games on the highest possible settings in 3D if possible with NO AA, what GPU should I get for this setup and would I need more than one?

SKOONJar
07-20-2012, 09:51 PM
You gona want sli or crossfire.

JudgementBullet
07-20-2012, 10:02 PM
You'll need at least 2 GPUs that's for sure.

NotYourHero
07-20-2012, 10:03 PM
1 7970, and 3 mini display port to hdmi/dvi adapter.

It supports this setup and has 3gb GDDR5 to handle it with ease.

edit: these are the max res.

Cutting-edge integrated display support

DisplayPort 1.2
Max resolution: 4096x2160 per display
Multi-Stream Transport
21.6 Gbps bandwidth
High bit-rate audio
2560x1600p60 Stereoscopic 3D
Quad HD/4k video support
HDMI® (With 4K, 3D, Deep Color and x.v.Color™)
Max resolution: 4096x2160
1080p60 Stereoscopic 3D
Quad HD/4k video support
Dual-link DVI with HDCP
Max resolution: 2560x1600

http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/7000/7970/Pages/radeon-7970.aspx#3

Joe521
07-20-2012, 10:07 PM
1 7970, and 3 mini display port to hdmi/dvi adapter.

It supports this setup and has 3gb GDDR5 to handle it with ease.

edit: these are the max res.

Cutting-edge integrated display support

DisplayPort 1.2
Max resolution: 4096x2160 per display
Multi-Stream Transport
21.6 Gbps bandwidth
High bit-rate audio
2560x1600p60 Stereoscopic 3D
Quad HD/4k video support
HDMI® (With 4K, 3D, Deep Color and x.v.Color™)
Max resolution: 4096x2160
1080p60 Stereoscopic 3D
Quad HD/4k video support
Dual-link DVI with HDCP
Max resolution: 2560x1600

http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/7000/7970/Pages/radeon-7970.aspx#3

Why not a GTX 680 4GB?

dosbox
07-20-2012, 10:08 PM
http://techreport.com/articles.x/23217

NotYourHero
07-20-2012, 10:09 PM
http://techreport.com/articles.x/23217

This is further proving me correct.

JudgementBullet
07-20-2012, 10:10 PM
OP wants to max out all games (without AA) with 3 monitors at playable frame rates. I don't think any single GPU can do that on more intensive games.

Joe521
07-20-2012, 10:18 PM
Alright, well after reading some reviews, seeing some benchmarks, etc, I think I'll be getting two of these. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130801 It seems to out perform the 7970 6GB, not by much, but still, and the addition of having PhysX for some games seems nice.

HL2-4-Life
07-20-2012, 10:20 PM
OP wants to max out all games (without AA) with 3 monitors at playable frame rates. I don't think any single GPU can do that on more intensive games.Yep, I have 2x HD7970 in CFX, gaming @6048x1200, unlike the OP's intended 3x 2560x1600 which is of course more taxing on the cards. With 2x HD7970, I can basically max out most games @6048x1200, but there are a few games that tax these two cards and I'd have to reduce ingame setting somewhat. OP's intended res of 7680x1600 is 12.3MP vs my 7.3MP.....I seriously doubt 2x HD7970 3GB or 2x GTX680 4GB is up to the challenge. You'd need 3 such cards to play games at max ingame + AA (assuming these games have SLi/CFX support and scale well with 3 GPU's).

Joe521
07-20-2012, 10:23 PM
Yep, I have 2x HD7970 in CFX, gaming @6048x1200, unlike the OP's intended 3x 2560x1600 which is of course more taxing on the cards. With 2x HD7970, I can basically max out most games @6048x1200, but there are a few games that tax these two cards and I'd have to reduce ingame setting somewhat. OP's intended res of 7680x1600 is 12.3MP vs my 7.3MP.....I seriously doubt 2x HD7970 3GB or 2x GTX680 4GB is up to the challenge. You'd need 3 such cards to play games at max ingame + AA (assuming these games have SLi/CFX support and scale well with 3 GPU's).

The monitor setup is 3 2560x2048, not 3 2560x1600. And alright, so I'll just get a 3rd GTX 680 4GB. Also, I don't plan on using Anti-Aliasing, no need for such a high resoultion.

NotYourHero
07-20-2012, 10:52 PM
Why not a GTX 680 4GB?

Would you like the honest truth? Nvidia has had processing problems for starters with the 600 series. For another, its really just oppinions at this point. The 7970 with AMD crap drivers benchs the same as the 680. Now imagine if AMD accidentally makes a good driver? It has happened before. The 7970 will out bench the 680.

They are more or less the same price, but I suggest getting a twin frozr, regardless of 680 or 7970.

YahooElite
07-20-2012, 10:53 PM
Alright, well after reading some reviews, seeing some benchmarks, etc, I think I'll be getting two of these. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130801 It seems to out perform the 7970 6GB, not by much, but still, and the addition of having PhysX for some games seems nice.

could save some money and get 2 or 3 GTX670 4GB, they are mainly similar in performance to the 680s.

Joe521
07-20-2012, 11:49 PM
Price isn't an issue, and I prefer to have PhysX.

SKOONJar
07-20-2012, 11:59 PM
Not to be an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ but im finding it hard to believe someone can afford 3 680 thats 1500$ at that rate you might as well get 690s

Joe521
07-21-2012, 12:14 AM
Not to be an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ but im finding it hard to believe someone can afford 3 680 thats 1500$ at that rate you might as well get 690s

There are people who have that kind of money. And I'd rather not get that, for 3 monitors, VRAM is important, and that 4GB is split up into 2GB per GPU so it's limited 20 2GB VRAM per GPU, it doesn't combine and make it a total of 4GB, which is why I'd rather 3 GTX 680's with 4GB RAM.

borg_7_of_9
07-21-2012, 03:15 AM
Not to be an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ but im finding it hard to believe someone can afford 3 680 thats 1500$ at that rate you might as well get 690s

I wont let on the price of my rig then :eek:

Anyway on topic I think the best and cheapest option is a pair of HD7970's Sapphire has a new 6G toxic or was it atomic edition, The HD7970's start to pull ahead of nvidia cards at higher rez and with the monitors you are looking at using I think a pair of these or the 3G versions would do the trick..

ionusx
07-21-2012, 03:46 AM
Not to be an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ but im finding it hard to believe someone can afford 3 680 thats 1500$ at that rate you might as well get 690s

skoon full of wierd ideas :P dual gpu's work today loose support altogeather when next card gen rolls around. their 6 month wonders.

SKOONJar
07-21-2012, 03:52 AM
skoon full of wierd ideas :P dual gpu's work today loose support altogeather when next card gen rolls around. their 6 month wonders.

I dont understand what your getting at...

I wont let on the price of my rig then :eek:

Anyway on topic I think the best and cheapest option is a pair of HD7970's Sapphire has a new 6G toxic or was it atomic edition, The HD7970's start to pull ahead of nvidia cards at higher rez and with the monitors you are looking at using I think a pair of these or the 3G versions would do the trick..

My rig was a little more than the price of one 680... FX4100 4gigs of ddr3 micro atx board( full atx on the way) a radeon 7770 disc drive and a wifi pcie card. It runs BF3 on high( ultra on sp)

borg_7_of_9
07-21-2012, 04:08 AM
My rig was a little more than the price of one 680... FX4100 4gigs of ddr3 micro atx board( full atx on the way) a radeon 7770 disc drive and a wifi pcie card. It runs BF3 on high( ultra on sp)

still a reasonable set up though I'm sure there is more than your saying though, k/b, mon and the rest of the goodies even if they where not upgraded it should cost more than a single 680 to replace... my 2 HD7970's cost 1K dame AUS $ :(

SKOONJar
07-21-2012, 04:12 AM
still a reasonable set up though I'm sure there is more than your saying though, k/b, mon and the rest of the goodies even if they where not upgraded it should cost more than a single 680 to replace... my 2 HD7970's cost 1K dame AUS $ :(

No issue with it in half a year*knock on wood*

dosbox
07-21-2012, 04:52 AM
My rig was a little more than the price of one 680... FX4100 4gigs of ddr3 micro atx board( full atx on the way) a radeon 7770 disc drive and a wifi pcie card. It runs BF3 on high( ultra on sp)

I suspect your definition of "runs" is different from these guys:

http://techreport.com/articles.x/22473/5

Those are at Medium.

SKOONJar
07-21-2012, 04:55 AM
I suspect your definition of "runs" is different from these guys:

http://techreport.com/articles.x/22473/5

Those are at Medium.

Constant 30 on high benchmarks are never accurate

EDIT: Let me rephrase that benchmarks will be different for every system some better some worse depends on what edition of what you have

dosbox
07-21-2012, 05:02 AM
Constant 30 on high benchmarks are never accurate

EDIT: Let me rephrase that benchmarks will be different for every system some better some worse depends on what edition of what you have

Perhaps you ought to read the article and how they test (http://techreport.com/articles.x/21516). The "average" FPS was 58 at Medium. The line graphs show how long it takes to render a frame. The two concepts are not the same, and they explain why.

HL2-4-Life
07-21-2012, 05:05 AM
Price isn't an issue, and I prefer to have PhysX.What? I have a PhysX setup and it's not something I'd do IF I had to do it again, though I don't regret it (it's my 2nd/backup rig anyway). There's like what.....a couple of dozen games, of thousands, that use hardware/GPU PhysX. nVidia's strangling the life out of PhysX by making it so proprietary. Honestly, it's a waste of money, but if you're full of it :p, it's yours to do as you please.

SKOONJar
07-21-2012, 05:07 AM
Perhaps you ought to read the article and how they test (http://techreport.com/articles.x/21516). The "average" FPS was 58 at Medium. The line graphs show how long it takes to render a frame. The two concepts are not the same, and they explain why.

Quite frankly i dont care it works for me on high on multiplayer at 30fps and on single player ultra at 30fps i dont care for statistics or benchmarks it works it works.

dosbox
07-21-2012, 05:08 AM
Quite frankly i dont care it works for me on high on multiplayer at 30fps and on single player ultra at 30fps i dont care for statistics or benchmarks it works it works.

So, you have low expectations and are happy with that. Yet you feel it's OK to bag on other people who can afford nicer gear.

Glad to clear that up.

SKOONJar
07-21-2012, 05:12 AM
So, you have low expectations and are happy with that. Yet you feel it's OK to bag on other people who can afford nicer gear.

Glad to clear that up.

Look im not trying to be a jerk about that 1500$ is alot of money i just find i hard to believe someone is willing to pay for 3... And 30fps is not bad its playable and im not some fps junky that oh my god im not running at 10000000000fps i need to spend more money to fix that im on a budget now lets stop this stupid childish arguement over a ♥♥♥♥ING computer forum topic

So, you have low expectations and are happy with that. Yet you feel it's OK to bag on other people who can afford nicer gear.

Glad to clear that up.

And hey if you have that kind of money why the heck not im not ragging on him its the idea that boggles me. He needs it for the set up.

dosbox
07-21-2012, 05:17 AM
Look im not trying to be a jerk about that 1500$ is alot of money i just find i hard to believe someone is willing to pay for 3...

Here's a clue - some of us work hard for our money and are well compensated. Some like to spend that on fancy dinners, fast cars or other toys.

If someone works at a job that pays minimum wage, I could understand the jealousy.

SKOONJar
07-21-2012, 05:20 AM
Here's a clue - some of us work hard for our money and are well compensated. Some like to spend that on fancy dinners, fast cars or other toys.

If someone works at a job that pays minimum wage, I could understand the jealousy.

Going through college dont have that kind of money. And no not jealousy im fine with my rig i upgrade as i go i like it that way seeing continuous improvement overtime i view it as treating my self im done explaining myself for stupid arguements

HL2-4-Life
07-21-2012, 05:26 AM
SKOON, tone it down a tad, this isn't the place for a debate, take it to PM if you need to get it off your chest. Although the concept of ponying up such deniros for a computer setup 'boggles the mind', as you so aptly put it, it's not a rarity....here and in other forums. My mobo + CPU already set me back that amount (1500USD), let alone my vid cards, case, RAM, PSU, SSD, HDDs, etc. Some of us enjoy having a powerful rig or two for gaming. For me, I run 3x 24" monitors for a res of 6048x1200 (with bezel compensation), and I'd need all the GPU + CPU grunt I can muster to play games at such a setting, and I'd enable AA whenever possible. Heck, even I can be befuddled at some of the rigs I see in the local forums in my neck of the wood.....my rig pales in comparison.

SKOONJar
07-21-2012, 05:34 AM
SKOON, tone it down a tad, this isn't the place for a debate, take it to PM if you need to get it off your chest. Although the concept of ponying up such deniros for a computer setup 'boggles the mind', as you so aptly put it, it's not a rarity....here and in other forums. My mobo + CPU already set me back that amount (1500USD), let alone my vid cards, case, RAM, PSU, SSD, HDDs, etc. Some of us enjoy having a powerful rig or two for gaming. For me, I run 3x 24" monitors for a res of 6048x1200 (with bezel compensation), and I'd need all the GPU + CPU grunt I can muster to play games at such a setting, and I'd enable AA whenever possible. Heck, even I can be befuddled at some of the rigs I see in the local forums in my neck of the wood.....my rig pales in comparison.

I wasnt the one who started the arguement your pointing at the wrong guy im done posting in this topic wrong place for this conversation if i wanted to be insulted i would find a place to complain about my system

Joe521
07-21-2012, 06:41 AM
Look im not trying to be a jerk about that 1500$ is alot of money i just find i hard to believe someone is willing to pay for 3... And 30fps is not bad its playable and im not some fps junky that oh my god im not running at 10000000000fps i need to spend more money to fix that im on a budget now lets stop this stupid childish arguement over a ♥♥♥♥ING computer forum topic

Well most people prefer to have a smooth 60-120 FPS experience 120 for 3D. And again, 3 monitors, 2560x2048 for just one monitor, all settings on high, everything enabled, Anti-Aliasing tutned off. If I want to do that, I'll need to get those 3 GPU's for a smooth experience on that setup. And let's say I didn't get that setup, I'd probably buy 2 of them. why? Investment. Unless there's newer technology in future cards or games demand an even more ungodly performance hit, then I'll stay with this for MANY years. Can I predict the future? No, but I'll take my chances and get this instead of waiting for something better to come out. There will always be something better out in the future, and waiting for the best thing to come will never happen. But back to what you said. You basically stereotyped me along with a group of people which very few people in the world actually act like that compared to everyone else that buys a high end card.

SKOONJar
07-21-2012, 05:16 PM
Well most people prefer to have a smooth 60-120 FPS experience 120 for 3D. And again, 3 monitors, 2560x2048 for just one monitor, all settings on high, everything enabled, Anti-Aliasing tutned off. If I want to do that, I'll need to get those 3 GPU's for a smooth experience on that setup. And let's say I didn't get that setup, I'd probably buy 2 of them. why? Investment. Unless there's newer technology in future cards or games demand an even more ungodly performance hit, then I'll stay with this for MANY years. Can I predict the future? No, but I'll take my chances and get this instead of waiting for something better to come out. There will always be something better out in the future, and waiting for the best thing to come will never happen. But back to what you said. You basically stereotyped me along with a group of people which very few people in the world actually act like that compared to everyone else that buys a high end card.
I completely understand that im in a bit of a bind for money atm so it kinda shocked me thats all... No hard feelings?

ssgt_battle
07-21-2012, 05:48 PM
Well most people prefer to have a smooth 60-120 FPS experience 120 for 3D. And again, 3 monitors, 2560x2048 for just one monitor, all settings on high, everything enabled, Anti-Aliasing tutned off. If I want to do that, I'll need to get those 3 GPU's for a smooth experience on that setup. And let's say I didn't get that setup, I'd probably buy 2 of them. why? Investment. Unless there's newer technology in future cards or games demand an even more ungodly performance hit, then I'll stay with this for MANY years. Can I predict the future? No, but I'll take my chances and get this instead of waiting for something better to come out. There will always be something better out in the future, and waiting for the best thing to come will never happen. But back to what you said. You basically stereotyped me along with a group of people which very few people in the world actually act like that compared to everyone else that buys a high end card.

+1
30fps is a ♥♥♥♥e-tier framerate. One might as well have bought an xbox. It's 60+ or stop trying IMO. And I realize very few people spend more than 200 bucks on a GPU, but this is a video game forum. Usually the rare use case scenarios post in message boards.

YahooElite
07-21-2012, 07:43 PM
Actually its a Hardware/OS Forum..

But yeah.