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Furlock
08-23-2012, 04:20 PM
So, yeah, like the title says, every time I launch TF2, it starts to validate the game cache files. What do? D:

This has been going on for several days now.

Captain M
08-23-2012, 04:21 PM
I'm getting this lately too. Try letting it fully validate, then restarting Steam. If that doesn't work, redo it, but restart the computer.

Furlock
08-24-2012, 04:12 PM
I'm getting this lately too. Try letting it fully validate, then restarting Steam. If that doesn't work, redo it, but restart the computer.

That's the thing. Every time I launch it for the first time in the day, it validates. I suppose the "every time it opens" was an exaggeration. Can't really fix it now, though.

Anyway, that's the problem. Every time I launch it for the first time after my computer has booted up, it seems to force itself to validate. It also loves to hang on 100%. Dear Valve, LEARN MATH. If something is at 100%, that means it's FINISHED. DONE. FINITO. END OF THE LINE.

Sc00by22
08-29-2012, 07:54 AM
I'm also having the exact same issue, every day after turning my computer on I have to validate the cache files again. I've tried reinstalling Steam and Team Fortress 2 with no success.

AlphaPenguin
08-29-2012, 08:03 AM
same here.
Started after MvM

Please fix this annoying bug.

ImBocaire
08-29-2012, 08:06 AM
You haven't been giving Team Fortress 2 enough love... it's beginning to feel insecure.

If you let it know that it still holds a special place in your heart, it might stop trying to seek validation everywhere else.

Furlock
08-29-2012, 10:17 AM
You haven't been giving Team Fortress 2 enough love... it's beginning to feel insecure.

If you let it know that it still holds a special place in your heart, it might stop trying to seek validation everywhere else.

As much as this did get a chuckle out me, it still is a very annoying problem.

Hopefully Valve will do SOMETHING about this and not "fix" it like all the other bugs I still experience that they claim have been solved, like the Heavy's invisible hands.

UnrealCanine
08-29-2012, 10:38 AM
It's annoying but here's how to fix.



Let it finish.

Even if it says 100%, do not touch/stop it until the pop-up box disappears. If you do, you'll have to go through it all again. It'll take a few minutes, but once it's done you're all set

Crescent Scar
08-29-2012, 10:40 AM
Here is the permanent fix: Delete clientregistry.blob and appstatupdate.blob in your steam folder.

Sc00by22
08-29-2012, 10:51 AM
It's annoying but here's how to fix.



Let it finish.

Even if it says 100%, do not touch/stop it until the pop-up box disappears. If you do, you'll have to go through it all again. It'll take a few minutes, but once it's done you're all set

I do that every time, it still happens on reboot.

Here is the permanent fix: Delete clientregistry.blob and appstatupdate.blob in your steam folder.

I've tried this also, it doesn't work and still happens on reboot.

Furlock
08-29-2012, 10:56 AM
I do that every time, it still happens on reboot.



I've tried this also, it doesn't work and still happens on reboot.

Aye, same here. That's what's so frustrating about this.

Xtreme2damax
08-29-2012, 11:04 AM
I am having a slightly different issue, after every single update my TF2 wants to re-verify the integrity of the game cache. Yes, I've already tried completely removing anything to do with TF2 and did a fresh re-install, made no difference.

AO.Cazzo
08-29-2012, 11:17 AM
have you tried defragmenting your gcf files? I don't mean the "defrag local files" option within steam.

1. Install GCFscape (http://nemesis.thewavelength.net/index.php?c=169&o=15)
2. Download HLLib.zip (http://nemesis.thewavelength.net/index.php?p=35)
3. Place the bin files (hlextract.exe and hllib.dll) from the Hllib.zip into your steamapps directory.
4. Type the following into Notepad and save as ‘gcfdefrag.bat’ into the steamapps directory:

@echo off
for %%F in (*.gcf) do "HLExtract.exe" -f -p "%%F"
pause

5. When Steam is off, run ‘gcfdefrag.bat’ and it will defrag all your GCF game files.

edit: you tube tutorial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccmoToUgEpo)

Sc00by22
08-29-2012, 11:50 AM
I'm giving this a go now. However I have already tried defragging the Team Fortress 2 gcfs with GCFscape with no luck. Maybe it's a problem with some of the other source ones, we will soon see.

Atomic Bang
08-29-2012, 12:02 PM
Im also having this problem. Glad Im not the only one.

arttie5
08-29-2012, 12:04 PM
Every time I launch it for the first time after my computer has booted up, it seems to force itself to validate.

This. However, I usually leave my computer in sleep mode, and when I launch TF2 in the morning, it has to validate files. After that, it's good for the day, but the next morning... "Steam is validating files..." Woohoo.

Sc00by22
08-30-2012, 04:34 AM
AO.Cazzo's solution seemed to work so far for me, the first launch of the day and it's not validating.

Sc00by22
08-31-2012, 12:35 PM
That didn't last very long, it's validating again.

parrot of doom
09-07-2012, 04:01 PM
I too am having this problem and it's extremely annoying.

kamuixmod16
09-07-2012, 04:26 PM
Let me guess, It goes to 100%. Downloads something, and says the Servers are too busy, however, another Window says, Validation Successful. When you start TF", then it validates again

kamuixmod16
09-07-2012, 04:56 PM
try now, it should work

Sc00by22
09-10-2012, 08:45 AM
I'm still getting this problem *sigh*

Geotpf
09-10-2012, 09:04 AM
That's the thing. Every time I launch it for the first time in the day, it validates. I suppose the "every time it opens" was an exaggeration. Can't really fix it now, though.

Anyway, that's the problem. Every time I launch it for the first time after my computer has booted up, it seems to force itself to validate. It also loves to hang on 100%. Dear Valve, LEARN MATH. If something is at 100%, that means it's FINISHED. DONE. FINITO. END OF THE LINE.

Yeah, well that's the problem.

Even though it says it's 100% done, it's not.

Leave it alone for an hour or two one time and it shouldn't do it again.

kamuixmod16
09-10-2012, 11:28 AM
I keep getting the Message that the Steam servers are currently too busy

parrot of doom
09-10-2012, 11:30 AM
I don't have to wait long for the "close" button to appear but I'm rather sick and tired of having to wait 5 minutes to play a game that should start in less than 1 minute.

It seems with every update Valve introduce, they make the game a little less stable.

bl00dshot131
09-10-2012, 01:36 PM
Same problem, first time i play everyday it has to validate
I have tried-
Deleting Appupdate and ClientRegistry.blob
Renaming ClientRegistry.blob
Defragging game files
Manually veryfying cache
manually veryfying cache and then defragging
reinstalling steam/tf2

MrWizard6600
09-12-2012, 07:35 PM
this issue++

Aticston
09-27-2012, 02:49 PM
I'm still getting this months later.

Why isn't this fixed yet?

Sc00by22
09-27-2012, 02:52 PM
Yup I'm also still having the problem.

blksith0
09-28-2012, 09:51 AM
Me too. Me too.
Good job Valve.

Excarius
09-29-2012, 04:50 PM
Been having this happen for about a week now.

Doesn't bug me much but is a major inconvenience sometimes.

BurningBalls
09-29-2012, 04:58 PM
Maybe we have done something to offend the mighty GABEN.

Happening to me too, really takes the jarate.

Not to mention that Steam also forced me to re-download almost EVERY game in my collection, which needless to say took forever even on a fast connection.

WTF Valve!

Wacker
09-29-2012, 05:06 PM
have you tried defragmenting your gcf files? I don't mean the "defrag local files" option within steam.

1. Install GCFscape (http://nemesis.thewavelength.net/index.php?c=169&o=15)
2. Download HLLib.zip (http://nemesis.thewavelength.net/index.php?p=35)
3. Place the bin files (hlextract.exe and hllib.dll) from the Hllib.zip into your steamapps directory.
4. Type the following into Notepad and save as ‘gcfdefrag.bat’ into the steamapps directory:



5. When Steam is off, run ‘gcfdefrag.bat’ and it will defrag all your GCF game files.

edit: you tube tutorial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccmoToUgEpo)

Sorry just noticed this double thread. Anyway, has anyone tried this yet & did it work? (I'll try tomorrow)

Paszkiewicz
10-01-2012, 06:04 PM
This, and increased crashes. Very annoying.

ned_ballad
10-01-2012, 06:06 PM
Happens to me every time I reboot Steam. Doesn't matter if I let it finish, if I verify the cache, or defrag the files, every single time.

thepounder1
10-01-2012, 06:08 PM
We definitely could use a performance Update in the near future... I'd actually prefer that over Halloween items at this point.

Nomad Trooper
10-01-2012, 07:22 PM
This is annoying.

shawnchi
10-03-2012, 09:31 PM
I have the same problem. However, I have noticed that it does not need to validate all the way. Once the validation bar gets to 10%, I close it, and launch the game. It launches without validating.

Pinkie Pyro
10-03-2012, 09:52 PM
This happens to me also. first time every day, and if I turn off the computer it will do it again. It's very annoying having to wait 10 minutes to play. Also , VALVe, 100% means DONE. If something reaches 100% it should be finished, not stalling for 2 minutes.

Jacfu
10-04-2012, 01:42 AM
Yes, same problem here. Defragmenting TF2 cache files before and after every session seems to have fixed the issue for me.

MiKEy.V
10-06-2012, 03:59 PM
Same. Here.


Validating once again as I type this. Argh.

Vaiels
10-06-2012, 09:23 PM
GABEN PLEASE FORGIVE OUR SINS
MAKE THIS WORK GABEN
:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o

Lenzikus
10-06-2012, 11:23 PM
The only way to fix this until the next big TF2 update rolls out is to redownload the game.

But as I'm running over 20 TF2s this is not an option.

iridescentFUZZ
10-07-2012, 03:50 AM
This is the most disgusting issue I've come across. I've tried everything apart from deleting and re-downloading my game files and nothing works.

For the love of God, move TF2 to the new content system already so we can stop worrying about these stupid gcfs.

MiKEy.V
10-08-2012, 03:00 PM
This is so mother♥♥♥♥ing annoying.

Ωmega
10-08-2012, 03:13 PM
I’m frustrated. Every time I want to play. This issue was mentioned since quite a while from many users and still nothing. Fixes not working and silence from developers, while cosmetic updates keep coming :(

ShadowZuki
10-08-2012, 06:37 PM
I have done everything suggested in this thread, it only happens to TF2 and never finds any integrity violations... pointless scanning, why?! This began a while ago with a fabulous update to the steam client, NOT the game, I'd say somewhere around the time before the layed out the new community navigation controls. The problem obviously isn't the game files or the game it's self, it's the stupid client! 7 Years later, we're going down the tube not up. :mad:

Piper5by5
10-08-2012, 06:40 PM
I've been having this happen too. I even did a clean reinstall of TF2 (albeit for a different reason) and upon completing installation, it immediately started validating. I facepalmed with the force of a thousand Hellfire threads.

Xtreme2damax
10-08-2012, 11:21 PM
Please fix this Valve, you've made enough money on hats and other crap. Time to finally fix the game or there will be no game left to play or buy hats and other items for. This is very annoying, I've tried everything to fix it including deleting all my games including TF2 and steam, re-installed Steam and re-downloaded everything to no avail. It seems there is nothing else I can do on my end to fix, it is an issue with either Steam or TF2, most likely TF2 since no other game does this.

iridescentFUZZ
10-09-2012, 03:59 AM
Would be nice to have a developer reply in here.

Wacker
10-09-2012, 04:52 AM
Odd. Let it hit 10%, a couple of seconds if even then hit cancel. Launch your game & you should be good to go.

iridescentFUZZ
10-09-2012, 09:25 AM
Odd. Let it hit 10%, a couple of seconds if even then hit cancel. Launch your game & you should be good to go.

I actually noticed that behaviour early on, but that stopped working for me a week ago.

Jacfu
10-09-2012, 10:22 AM
This issue has been driving me crazy too. I have to defrag tf2 cache files before and after every tf2 session, and so far it seems to have stopped the constant validating.

Nomad Trooper
10-09-2012, 10:53 AM
I'm validating right now. :D

Kite
10-09-2012, 06:16 PM
This is the same thing for me, Ive tried all this and nothing worked for me. What is everyones OS, maybe it is related to the OS. I have windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit.

ShadowZuki
10-09-2012, 08:33 PM
correct me if I am wrong, didn't there used to be user based support forums on the steam forum? Did they get removed, because it sure is helpful when people pool their brain cells together on issues like this, unfortunately we can't even get a mod or dev to comment on the thread, many people aren't posting their problems because they can't even find this thread. :eek:

Get this, just restarted my PC and steam LAUNCHED VALIDATING TF2 I didn't even click the TF2 shortcut, it automatically started validating on launch, you can't tell me this is the game doing this, it's the client for sure!

Leoholbel
10-09-2012, 08:43 PM
+1
5char

godoffacade
10-10-2012, 02:05 PM
Bumping back to the top. Please fix this FFS.

Hypo the Dragon
10-10-2012, 02:15 PM
Okay, this is really reassuring to me that this isn't an issue with just my computer.

I hope this gets fixed SOON.

Cloudius12
10-10-2012, 02:17 PM
Had this for a couple of days. So I manually verified my cache and defragged the files. Seem to do it atm.

PrEd@oR
10-10-2012, 06:25 PM
Aye, same here. That's what's so frustrating about this.

Been having this issue for like, months now.

Sent in a ticket to Valve, and their solution was deleting the blob... which was ineffective.

I would love to se a fix-proper for this issue, especially considering validation is like a 15 minute process (and the %complete inaccurately represents the actual progress)

Aticston
10-11-2012, 01:01 AM
Oh god its STILL doing this

I've even reinstalled steam to try and fix this, and nadda

God dammit valve FIX THIS!!!

jubsticles
10-11-2012, 02:32 AM
This is also happening with me.
We need a dev in this thread, this is ridiculous.
Come on, Valve, step up your game!

The Medic
10-11-2012, 02:45 AM
My TF2 has started doing this.

I just cancel the validation and open TF2 again.

Works fine.

iridescentFUZZ
10-11-2012, 02:52 AM
My TF2 has started doing this.

I just cancel the validation and open TF2 again.

Works fine.

Doesn't work for everyone.

The Medic
10-11-2012, 03:15 AM
Doesn't work for everyone.

It's worth trying though.

jabba1st
10-11-2012, 05:24 AM
let it validate to 10% cancel then relaunch the game, works

hawk18727
10-11-2012, 05:35 AM
No, it doesn't. Are there other workarounds, peeps?

mjvwolfe
10-11-2012, 05:59 AM
Happens to me too, really annoying, what I do to fix it is I just go into the local files and defrag cache files, usually works after that but I have to do it every time I restart.

Wacker
10-11-2012, 06:04 AM
Odd. Let it hit 10%, a couple of seconds if even then hit cancel. Launch your game & you should be good to go.

I actually noticed that behaviour early on, but that stopped working for me a week ago.

Over a week & you haven't jinxed me yet because its still working for me that way :)

iridescentFUZZ
10-11-2012, 09:08 AM
Over a week & you haven't jinxed me yet because its still working for me that way :)

*Gets out DIY voodoo kit*

Mr. Slippyfist
10-11-2012, 09:14 AM
Are you using a portable HD?


I had this issue until I installed TF2 on a non portable. Don't know if it's related.

ned_ballad
10-11-2012, 09:15 AM
Are you using a portable HD?


I had this issue until I installed TF2 on a non portable. Don't know if it's related.
I have this problem and I'm not using a portable HDD

Frugal
10-11-2012, 09:18 AM
My friend had this problem since the last update I think and he just uninstalled TF2, deleted his Teamfortress folder in steamapps and reinstalled and that seemed to solve it.

Sc00by22
10-11-2012, 09:30 AM
I've been having this problem for months, still can't believe it's not fixed.

BurningBalls
10-11-2012, 09:55 PM
Wait a second, are you guys saying that you don't actually ENJOY having to wait 10 pointless minutes every time before playing a quick game of TF2?

Maybe GabeN put this in as a feature.

"Instead of playing the games that you own, whenever you want (crazy idea)... now you can have an extra 10 minutes of pointlessly validating files EVERY TIME you want to play a quick game. Brought to you by Steam."

megaerathia
10-12-2012, 02:17 AM
Aye laddies, I've stumbled across the same problem. Has been happening for months now and it's driving me insane also. It's either:

Steam doesn't start due to connection problems.
After starting Steam 5 times and manages to actually start I'd start Team Fortress 2 which brings along few of the possible problems:

Can't connect to loadout server (Default layout),
Game crashes on server joining,
Game hangs at the loading screen while joining a server (happened with several computers already, after the MvM update),
Tf2 is revalidating Team Fortress 2 files after every single launch of Steam.



That's why you don't let anything over to 'murricans.

adama14
10-12-2012, 03:53 AM
Not that it matters, but me and my friend both have this. Clean steam install on windows 7 too :/

loleitor
10-12-2012, 04:32 AM
For me this issue I think that started when I tried to defrag files with gfcscape. Tried deleting the .bob files to fix it and no result. Today I defragged again with that and seems fixed now since after some steam restarts doesn't validate like it did before. Dont know if it's related or if it is fixed for sure but well..

Edit: False alarm, I restarted and got the validation again <_<

Wacker
10-12-2012, 06:52 AM
*Gets out DIY voodoo kit*

Still working ;)

Doomthief
10-12-2012, 02:26 PM
Bumping this, as I am still having this issue, nothing works. Anyone else?

Every time I close down my computer, it has to validate on the first load up of TF2

Ah Monstah
10-12-2012, 02:44 PM
Funny thing. This started happening because I reinstalled TF2. I had no problems about it before I did.

Sud
10-12-2012, 07:48 PM
Bumping this because now I'm getting this every day too.

NEED A DEVELOPER HERE. NEED A DEVELOPER HERE. NEED A DEVELOPER HERE.

iridescentFUZZ
10-13-2012, 06:19 AM
Bumping this because now I'm getting this every day too.

NEED A DEVELOPER HERE. NEED A DEVELOPER HERE. NEED A DEVELOPER HERE.

Is this significant enough to mention in a "Letters to Robin" segment?

Nomad Trooper
10-13-2012, 08:35 AM
Is this significant enough to mention in a "Letters to Robin" segment?

Yes, yes it is.

Sippeangelo
10-13-2012, 09:04 AM
Same problem.

FreshKaT
10-14-2012, 01:58 AM
It's not a bug, it's a feature to make sure our game is kewl and we don't hax :cool:

Le Hooded
10-14-2012, 09:59 AM
also having this since a couple of weeks

im playing TF2 for years now without any problem, but this bug is very annoying indeed

GinҲeng
10-14-2012, 03:53 PM
This started happening to me a couple weeks ago. Tried all the fixes and nothings worked.

BurningBalls
10-15-2012, 03:32 PM
Someone claims to have fixed it. I tried it but it didn't work, maybe you guys can try as well.

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2970415

Sud
10-16-2012, 03:43 PM
I have put in the suggestion that this goes to letters to Robin

iridescentFUZZ
10-17-2012, 02:50 AM
I have put in the suggestion that this goes to letters to Robin

Many thanks!

Jacfu
10-17-2012, 08:21 AM
yes plz fix this /

letifrunk
10-17-2012, 04:41 PM
While my random crashes have gone down, this validation is happening to me as well within the last week or so. Please get on it V.

willstroud
10-18-2012, 12:48 AM
The past few days I saw this thread and reflected on how lucky I was to not have this issue. After todays update I can no longer count myself among the lucky.
I care now Valve. Will you please fix this?

BurningBalls
10-18-2012, 10:58 PM
It seems to be validating slightly faster after I defragged the game files.

Still a pile of crap though.

Critics Award's
10-19-2012, 03:32 AM
Dear Valve, pls fix it.

Sud
10-19-2012, 09:08 AM
While were at it, can we get a fix to HL2.exe crashes? Just played a brilliant game where I massively supported my team, only to be robbed of both the victory and my slot on the server thanks to a timely crash. It's time these issues got fixed.

Bronze Fist
10-20-2012, 05:20 AM
I've had this for over a month, tried deleting the blob files and then the entire directory except steam + steam apps. No Joy. Please Valve look into this as it severely diminishes my want to play your game.

Sippeangelo
10-20-2012, 12:40 PM
This is getting very tiresome

carlh267
10-20-2012, 12:42 PM
I'm still getting this. C'mon TF2 team, please get on this.

Billa Bop
10-20-2012, 01:12 PM
So, yeah, like the title says, every time I launch TF2, it starts to validate the game cache files. What do? D:

This has been going on for several days now.


this has been happening to me for MONTHS. I JUST WANT IT TO STOP. I THOUGHT IT DID BUT A WEEK LATER IT STARTED AGAIN. AUAUAAGHGHGHGH.

Nomad Trooper
10-20-2012, 10:31 PM
Will this ever get fixed?

rdovydas007
10-21-2012, 01:14 AM
I know im a little late but this works for me. When you are about to shut down your computer make sure you exit steam, in the top left corner click "Steam" and then "Exit".

BurningBalls
10-21-2012, 01:42 AM
I know im a little late but this works for me. When you are about to shut down your computer make sure you exit steam, in the top left corner click "Steam" and then "Exit".

Thanks for the input, but unfortunately I already do that every time. I am a bit of a stickler for closing down all programs before I shut down the computer.

Carsmaniac
10-22-2012, 03:35 AM
For those getting annoyed when verification gets stuck at 100%:

At 100%, the game is actually downloading new cache files/tiny update/etc.

Just a heads up for when it gets stuck in the future ;)

durrchet
10-22-2012, 04:54 AM
Big red text.

That amount is hardly an issue for SSD lifetime, I doubt you will reach the limit, and even then SSD's have a particulary long varranty. With modern SSD's it would take you more than a decade to wear it out with such data rewriting. Unless you have a certain part of it full, and you only give it small amount to work it, but why would you even use SSD for anything other than caching.

ramborambo
10-22-2012, 05:17 AM
that thing is almost annoying as the old year crashes, seriusly it does that thing every time ì open tf2 and most times i just go and play some other game instead of tf2.
Lol from my usual 50+ 2 week hours on tf2 now i only have 20

Ωmega
10-23-2012, 06:04 PM
Fingers crossed the upcoming update will fix this.. sigh
Lets hope the "Oh, there's more... much more!" "rickmus" VALVe Programmer said in the beta update thread (those threads get dev replies this doesn't) is not more bugs more crashes or MUCH MORE VALIDATING :(

jaymiechan
10-24-2012, 12:33 PM
bumping because this is still an issue.

Hypo the Dragon
10-24-2012, 01:57 PM
Also bumping, still a big problem.

iridescentFUZZ
10-24-2012, 02:01 PM
That amount is hardly an issue for SSD lifetime, I doubt you will reach the limit, and even then SSD's have a particulary long varranty. With modern SSD's it would take you more than a decade to wear it out with such data rewriting. Unless you have a certain part of it full, and you only give it small amount to work it, but why would you even use SSD for anything other than caching.

Yeah, misinformation and all that. A little research revealed this thread: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?271063-SSD-Write-Endurance-25nm-Vs-34nm

I did figure out how to solve the validating. Simply disable steam cloud.

carlh267
10-24-2012, 02:07 PM
Valve, PLEASE, fix this. For a gamer that plays this daily, its extremely irritating to have to go through this every time I want to play.

BurningBalls
10-24-2012, 07:32 PM
Woohoo! This is the sh*t!

I mean, who the Hell wants to play the games they own anyway?

I certainly prefer staring at Validation screens instead, yes sir.

Lapinnoir
10-24-2012, 07:32 PM
Yes please fix this issue. I noticed sometimes even after I exit steam properly it leaves the process running in task manager. I wonder if this currupts files when I shut down and forget to manually end the process.

xaiver0
10-24-2012, 07:34 PM
Yeah, misinformation and all that. A little research revealed this thread: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?271063-SSD-Write-Endurance-25nm-Vs-34nm

I did figure out how to solve the validating. Simply disable steam cloud.

I don't have steam cloud enabled (never have), and I still have the validating error.

iridescentFUZZ
10-25-2012, 02:40 AM
I don't have steam cloud enabled (never have), and I still have the validating error.

Try enabling it, restart your computer, let it validate with the could enabled, disable it and restart again.

Maybe it needs something cloud-related first?

Nomad Trooper
10-25-2012, 04:55 PM
Stop the validating, start the game!

Stop the validating, start the game!

Ok, now we have our chant, we just need a logo for our conscientious objectors. (to bad I crafted mine)

joey19982
10-25-2012, 05:00 PM
My friend has been experiencing this as well. Tried to help him, but didn't get very far. The fact that this thread has been going on for so long isn't comforting. >.<

Pentrazemine
10-25-2012, 10:16 PM
I have this problem also. Except for ALL my Source-based games, particularly Garry's Mod. I tried deleting my Steam folder and re-installed it from scratch and I still get this issue.

Anyone at all who can fix this?

Alexx17
10-26-2012, 10:50 PM
Yeah, this just started happening to me after the Scream Fortress 2012 update. Any real fix yet?

Smile286
10-27-2012, 02:27 AM
Never happens for me actually, but my friend have this issue.

OfficerSpuds
10-27-2012, 09:17 AM
This is driving me nuts I want to play the damn game not wait around for it to validate ><

BurningBalls
10-27-2012, 03:35 PM
WOW this is amazing.

Before the Scream Fortress Update, it would Validate every time I wanted to start TF2.

After the Scream Fortress Update... it Validates before I start TF2... and wait for it... Validates AGAIN afterwards!!

shawnchi
10-27-2012, 05:49 PM
I have the same problem. However, I have noticed that it does not need to validate all the way. Once the validation bar gets to 10%, I close it, and launch the game. It launches without validating.

Guys try this. It really works for me.

Sud
10-28-2012, 01:17 PM
I noticed this morning what appears to be a micro-update of TF2 and this problem not happening on my launch of TF2 like it usually does, can anyone else confirm the issue is fixed?

SuxXarD
10-28-2012, 06:04 PM
My validating files window has been up for the past 15 minutes, and won't go away.

DIMICH
10-29-2012, 02:02 AM
Have tha same problem for monthes now. Bumping...

Dweezy
10-29-2012, 03:37 PM
Same thing happening to me. I get stuck at 36% and it's extremely annoying... any advice?

BurningBalls
10-29-2012, 07:17 PM
It is happening even more regularly now.

Ratterjack
10-30-2012, 04:37 AM
Add me to the list. Validating first time I launch TF2 after a start-up (subsequent launches are fine). I have tried most suggestions for a cure, all to no avail. Meh!

ColacanNL
10-30-2012, 11:20 AM
I think I'm gonna join this party, this has happened to me every time for the last 3-4 weeks or so.
Is this a TF2 bug OR might this be the Steam client being an ♥♥♥?

Sc00by22
10-31-2012, 03:33 AM
Bump because I'm still having this issue.

banzaiwolfe
10-31-2012, 05:13 PM
I started getting this issue with the Scream Fortress update.

ValentineRain
10-31-2012, 05:58 PM
Yeah, this has been happening to me for a few weeks now.
I thought it'd go away on its own but it definitely hasn't.

I've tried deleting clientregistry.blob, letting it finish verifying, defragmentation, basically everything suggested save installing sketch 3rd party software.

No dice. Would very much like a fix to this. :(
I've had to launch TF2 30 minutes early before tournament matches to make sure I'd be there. It isn't like, a crippling bug, but it's definitely annoying.

Mistheart
11-01-2012, 12:32 PM
This started happening to me a few weeks before Scream Fortress. Really cuts into game time.

jangbanger
11-01-2012, 04:39 PM
only started since the recent scream fortress update. so ♥♥♥♥ing annoying

tr0ubl3mak3r
11-01-2012, 06:15 PM
Why hasn't there been any official response to this yet? This is quite annoying. Like others have said, it's not game breaking. But man it sucks having to wait 10-20 minutes just to play lol. Sucks enough that there have been times I didn't feel like waiting and went and played something else.

Things I've tried.. defragging, deleting the blobs, reinstalling the game, verifying cache integrity, and lightly swearing. I also can't cancel early and have it work. Tried 10%, tried 30%, tried 80%, got tired of trying and just waited for it to finish. Nothing downloaded. Every time I reboot the computer, it does it again. Haven't tried closing steam and re-opening it to see if that triggers it.

If this is some kinda new security to make sure the game hasn't been tampered with, at least let us know. Or let us know that you're aware of the problem. :p

iridescentFUZZ
11-02-2012, 03:30 AM
If this is some kinda new security to make sure the game hasn't been tampered with, at least let us know.

It most certainly isn't. Probably just Steam being ridiculously buggy as usual. This started happening to me not after a TF2 update, but after the Big Picture update.

Might also be something to do with TF2 having not been converted into the new file system used by steam.

What the Scream Fortress update did do is drop my FPS. I had a nice stable 160 in pubs and a stable 200 in 6v6 games, and just the other day I was getting drops from 200 to 60 in a 6v6 game.

Eek!
11-02-2012, 10:53 AM
Huh, I've only just seen this thread but I had this happen too a couple o' months ago (it also happened to Day of Defeat: Source). In the end I just got sick of it and ended up deleting TF2 - I never played it after the big changes years ago anyway, it saved some hard drive space (not to mention no more large updates) and it 'fixed' the glitch, hah.

Granted, this isn't advice I'd recommend most people take...

tr0ubl3mak3r
11-02-2012, 06:34 PM
lol @ Eek! Tempting. Just turned on steam and it started verifying TF2 and I didn't even open the game and hadn't planned on it. Lame. Now if only I could find another good FPS that has a good mix of strategies and weapon collecting..

iridescentFUZZ
11-03-2012, 04:07 AM
lol @ Eek! Tempting. Just turned on steam and it started verifying TF2 and I didn't even open the game and hadn't planned on it. Lame. Now if only I could find another good FPS that has a good mix of strategies and weapon collecting..

Quake Live? That has weapon collecting but not in the same sense as you're thinking.

SamboSimbo
11-03-2012, 09:07 AM
This happens to me with GMod, when I launch steam it validates and gets to 100% and stops there for a while. It's not much of a big deal but I'd like to get it fixed.

Enigmantic
11-03-2012, 09:33 AM
I have the fix for you...re-install the game. The same thing happened to me about 6 weeks ago and I re-installed and no more problems.

Dark_Reaper115
11-03-2012, 01:05 PM
BUMP BUMP BUMP !!!!
I have read all the articles and post, tried every single "solution" and nothing works !!!!!
Gaben...if I ever find you, I'm gonna make you pay attention to the forums... We DO need a dev answer !!!!

tr0ubl3mak3r
11-03-2012, 09:22 PM
Hey guys/girls. I think I found a workaround. Refer to this guy's post http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=33270397&postcount=15 . Now, I know some or most of you may have tried similar things. But I tried what he said today, minus leaving my userdata folder, and so far TF2 hasn't checked integrity even once.

If you can't be bothered to read that link, just close out of steam, delete everything in your steam folder except for the "steamapps" folder, "steam.exe", and optionally leave your "userdata" folder. Then re-open steam. This will not delete any of your games, this will only delete most of your steam installation and have it redownload and reinstall. FYI, I believe the "userdata" folder is where your screenshots and launch settings are stored, hence why I saved mine.

Hope this helps, thank Derp-Master for actually reading Steam support lol.

Edit: Unfortunately this may not be working anymore for me. After shutting down my computer last night, just tried to get on TF2 today and it's Validating again. If it continues to do so, I'll just assume this didn't work.

iridescentFUZZ
11-04-2012, 06:41 AM
Hey guys/girls. I think I found a workaround. Refer to this guy's post http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=33270397&postcount=15 . Now, I know some or most of you may have tried similar things. But I tried what he said today, minus leaving my userdata folder, and so far TF2 hasn't checked integrity even once.

If you can't be bothered to read that link, just close out of steam, delete everything in your steam folder except for the "steamapps" folder, "steam.exe", and optionally leave your "userdata" folder. Then re-open steam. This will not delete any of your games, this will only delete most of your steam installation and have it redownload and reinstall. FYI, I believe the "userdata" folder is where your screenshots and launch settings are stored, hence why I saved mine.

Hope this helps, thank Derp-Master for actually reading Steam support lol.

I've tried that, and no, it didn't work. For me(and a friend), disabling steam cloud fixed it.

kuduz
11-04-2012, 06:58 AM
doesnt happen to me in tf2 but happens to me in gmod

tr0ubl3mak3r
11-04-2012, 10:24 AM
I've tried that, and no, it didn't work. For me(and a friend), disabling steam cloud fixed it.

Unfortunately, it may not be working for me anymore. TF2 is now validating again. And my steam cloud isn't enabled. So idk.

doesnt happen to me in tf2 but happens to me in gmod

It's likely that gmod is doing it for a different reason. Unless this is flat out a steam glitch.

iridescentFUZZ
11-05-2012, 02:28 AM
It's likely that gmod is doing it for a different reason. Unless this is flat out a steam glitch.

I'd be willing to bet it's a Steam issue dealing with gcfs. I don't have GMod, but if it still uses GCFs instead of using the new content system, that could be a pretty good indicator.

DIMICH
11-05-2012, 02:41 AM
Still no answer from devs...

Firever
11-05-2012, 11:56 AM
Hey guys/girls. I think I found a workaround. Refer to this guy's post http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=33270397&postcount=15 . Now, I know some or most of you may have tried similar things. But I tried what he said today, minus leaving my userdata folder, and so far TF2 hasn't checked integrity even once.

If you can't be bothered to read that link, just close out of steam, delete everything in your steam folder except for the "steamapps" folder, "steam.exe", and optionally leave your "userdata" folder. Then re-open steam. This will not delete any of your games, this will only delete most of your steam installation and have it redownload and reinstall. FYI, I believe the "userdata" folder is where your screenshots and launch settings are stored, hence why I saved mine.

Hope this helps, thank Derp-Master for actually reading Steam support lol.

Edit: Unfortunately this may not be working anymore for me. After shutting down my computer last night, just tried to get on TF2 today and it's Validating again. If it continues to do so, I'll just assume this didn't work.

Work for me one day, but now is still Validating.

restlessgamer75
11-09-2012, 12:41 PM
bumping

greg2302
11-09-2012, 02:00 PM
Me too. Just started tonight. First launch TF2 couldn't find any servers, tried to quit TF2 then Steam, PC crashed, had to reset. Then the validating problem starts, 100% and nothing happening. Have degfragged and disabled Steam cloud. Exited Steam and relaunched. Seems to have worked for me. Just as well 'cos I couldn't be arsed trying the other fixes. On the downside I have lost my bottle opener since I opened my last beer.

shawnchi
11-10-2012, 04:44 AM
I have the same problem. However, I have noticed that it does not need to validate all the way. Once the validation bar gets to 10%, I close it, and launch the game. It launches without validating.

Just sayin'...

jbuss112
11-10-2012, 08:21 PM
I just started experiencing this problem on Wednesday of this past week. I have tried this on 6 Steam accounts I have access to with TF2 and every one of them has to validate the files when launching, and when it's finished verifying I attempt to launch only for it to verify again. I have been unable to play all week because of this.

Things I have tried:
• Allow it to verify the files multiple times (gave up after 3) to 100% completion (The screen where it says all files have been successfully validated).
• Cancelling the verifying of the TF2 files after 10%/20%/30%/ect and launching again.
• Cancelling the verifying of the TF2 files after 5-7 seconds as mentioned here (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=33100599&postcount=1)
• Complete reinstall of TF2
• Defragmenting the .gcf files as mentioned here (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=32599280&postcount=13).
• Defragmenting the TF2 files after they have finished being verified
• Deleting all the files in the main steam folder except /steamapps/ and Steam.exe
• Renaming the .blob files in the main Steam folder.

I almost feel like I am out of options.

UPDATE: Well, I tried the last thing I could possibly think of. I deleted nearly every Source based game .gfc file from my /steamapps/ folder (I deleted exactly 55 files) which in turn forced me to download TF2 and a bunch of other things. It worked. Not one attempt to verify the files. So far I've tested 4/6 accounts I have access to and all work. Took a while for everything to redownload, but if you're as desperate as I was, give it a shot. Will report back if any issues arise.

TEMPTEMP
11-11-2012, 09:42 PM
I just started experiencing this problem on Wednesday of this past week. I have tried this on 6 Steam accounts I have access to with TF2 and every one of them has to validate the files when launching, and when it's finished verifying I attempt to launch only for it to verify again. I have been unable to play all week because of this.

Things I have tried:
• Allow it to verify the files multiple times (gave up after 3) to 100% completion.
• Cancelling the verifying of the TF2 files after 10%/20%/30%/ect and launching again.
• Cancelling the verifying of the TF2 files after 5-7 seconds as mentioned here (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=33100599&postcount=1)
• Complete reinstall of TF2
• Defragmenting the .gcf files as mentioned here (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=32599280&postcount=13).
• Defragmenting the TF2 files after they have finished being verified
• Deleting all the files in the main steam folder except /steamapps/ and Steam.exe
• Renaming the .blob files in the main Steam folder.

I almost feel like I am out of options.

UPDATE: Well, I tried the last thing I could possibly think of. I deleted nearly every Source based game .gfc file from my /steamapps/ folder (I deleted exactly 55 files) which in turn forced me to download TF2 and a bunch of other things. It worked. Not one attempt to verify the files. So far I've tested 4/6 accounts I have access to and all work. Took a while for everything to redownload, but if you're as desperate as I was, give it a shot. Will report back if any issues arise.

Done all exactly what you have done except deleting all Source based game .gfc files and still have the problem.

Considering deleting all Source based game .gfc files if it can really solve the problem.
But re-download everything is a little bit...and if it fail......

P.S. REALLY, REALLY WANT AN ANSWER FROM DEVS!!!!!!!!

Kinnekitsune
11-11-2012, 09:48 PM
• Allow it to verify the files multiple times (gave up after 3) to 100% completion

WRONG! 100% TF2 file validation does NOT mean finished if the steam file validation still says 0/1

It validates TF2 first. When that is finished, it validates steam files. DO NOT CLOSE IT WHEN IT SAYS 100%! WAIT UNTIL IT SAYS FINISHED!

I let it finish, like an intelligent person, and it hasn't tried to validate since. If you close it before it finishes because you think 100% means finished, you deserve this.

TEMPTEMP
11-11-2012, 09:59 PM
WRONG! 100% TF2 file validation does NOT mean finished if the steam file validation still says 0/1

It validates TF2 first. When that is finished, it validates steam files. DO NOT CLOSE IT WHEN IT SAYS 100%! WAIT UNTIL IT SAYS FINISHED!

I let it finish, like an intelligent person, and it hasn't tried to validate since. If you close it before it finishes because you think 100% means finished, you deserve this.

I think there is some misunderstanding...

Anyway, in my case, I wait 10min to validate and 20min to let it finish when it's at 100%
And finally press the "complete" button to exit.

But it just validating everytime when the computer is re-boot.

jbuss112
11-12-2012, 09:02 AM
WRONG! 100% TF2 file validation does NOT mean finished if the steam file validation still says 0/1

It validates TF2 first. When that is finished, it validates steam files. DO NOT CLOSE IT WHEN IT SAYS 100%! WAIT UNTIL IT SAYS FINISHED!

I let it finish, like an intelligent person, and it hasn't tried to validate since. If you close it before it finishes because you think 100% means finished, you deserve this.

You seem to have misunderstood me, as the above poster said. When i said I allowed it to verify to 100% completion, I meant that I let it get to 100%, and waited ~5 minutes for it to say "All files have validated successfully" before I closed the window. Even after letting it completely finish validating, upon launching TF2 it would do it all over again. I have updated my original post so that you and others don't get confused. Also, you didn't have to be such a smartass in your reply. Just because you have never experienced this problem doesn't mean it isn't a problem.

Sc00by22
11-12-2012, 09:31 AM
Bump because this is still an issue for me.

f4ll3n_4ng3ll
11-13-2012, 01:20 PM
Can we get a definitive fix for this Valve? Kind of ridiculous having to wait 15 minutes before I can even launch TF2...

novablade5
11-13-2012, 04:55 PM
I've been having this error too, and I can't seem to stop it from happening.

cherrypops
11-14-2012, 06:11 AM
ffs fix this ♥♥♥♥ing thing

Firever
11-14-2012, 03:38 PM
Bump because this is still an issue for me.

ShadowZuki
11-15-2012, 04:50 PM
So here we are, nothing fixed, still being ignored.

1. Verified TF2 + GMOD

2. Defragmented TF2 + GMOD

3. Defragmented PC

4. Deleted ClientRegistry.blob & AppUpdateStats.blob

5. Deleted everything in steam folder besides steam.exe and steamapps folder, relaunching and downloading. (as suggested in https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=2971-RUAG-7390)

6. CHKDSK No errors.

7. Used MEMTEST No errors.

I noticed some behavior today, I woke my computer from sleep mode, steam started updating games after I tried launching TF2, it hanged repeatedly for about 15 minutes, I had to terminate it, on launching steam it started verifying these games that were updating previously, my thoughts are that perhaps people in similar situations have gotten so used to seeing the verify boxes and waiting to 100% and getting ticked off closing them that we don't actually let it finish, steam says it's verified the files to 100% but actually it's downloading the updates! So, my suggestion is to close steam before putting the PC into sleep mode and letting the verification box complete to */* files! It isn't actually finished until the writing says x ammount of x files verified!

Didn't have issues for days while closing steam before putting PC into sleep mode, restarted PC and got validation issues today, apparently steam needs to be closed manually and not by windows, probably thanks to the fabulous cloud features which I supposedly have disabled, slows steam shutting down significantly since they added that "feature" to the client, not the games.

iridescentFUZZ
11-17-2012, 11:13 AM
I know someone posted saying they make absolutely sure they exit steam completely before shutting down, but I think that may be a solution to some people.

After reformatting and re-installing steam and TF2 on my new SSD, steam forced me to validate after a restart where I didn't exit steam before the restart. I've restarted three times since then, exited steam and launched TF2 on restart every time and I haven't had to validate once.

ShadowZuki
11-17-2012, 12:18 PM
steam has definative problems with waking from sleep, it hangs and has to be closed after about 10 minutes while trying to update, it probably has issues shutting down, I personally have seen windows saying it was going to terminate steam during shut down for taking too long. (on the rare occasion that I actually restart/shut down my PC, call me a hipster but sleep mode is the best thing since sliced bread.)

I gather steam is guilty of making the verification box not user friendly and having shoddy coding for closing ever since they started that "synching with blalblalala before closing" it's a bunch of jaratee.

iridescentFUZZ
11-19-2012, 06:35 AM
Well, over the past two days I've restarted at least 8 times(shutting down steam properly) and I haven't had to validate the game files once.

madafaka
11-19-2012, 06:49 AM
The only solution that worked for me was to exit steam and uninstall TF2. No more of that issue after reinstalling. The only downfall is the times it takes to reinstall and update game

ShadowZuki
11-19-2012, 09:04 AM
I haven't had any issues with any of the games for several days now that I close steam before putting my pc into sleep mode, otherwise if it trys to update on wake it hangs then it has to be terminated then the verifications start up, sooooooooooooo basically also people need to let the verification finish because it says 100% but it's actually downloading updates and at the top is says X/X Verified, wait till that number matches it should say it's finished, don't cancel at 100%. :)

DustyMonkey
11-19-2012, 10:09 AM
*BUMP*

Validating until "completed" doesnt work. Period. End of story.
Re-installing steam doesn't work. Period. End of story.

iridescentFUZZ
11-19-2012, 10:16 AM
*BUMP*

Validating until "completed" doesnt work. Period. End of story.
Re-installing steam doesn't work. Period. End of story.

Did you try what I suggested? Let it validate and give you the option to close it once completed. Then exit steam, and check the windows process manager to make sure steam closes completely.
Restart your computer, launch TF2.

The_Markie
11-19-2012, 07:11 PM
I got this bug for like weeks since the HLW Update, then suddenly it stops this morning, I was so happy so I exited the game (I wasn't expecting that, I had work to do so I thought I can save me some time). Then 30 mins later I got back in and then BOOM, "This game is not currently available". So I restarted Steam (no other ways), and it starts validating again, ♥♥♥♥ING DAMN IT

ShadowZuki
11-20-2012, 11:45 AM
So, today I restarted my computer, apparently even when windows closes steam to shutdown that isn't good enough, it started validating launching TF2, so mark two problems hanging when waking computer from sleep mode and steam updates so it has to be terminated and when windows shuts down it isn't good enough for steam, apparently now we'll have to close steam before shutting the PC down or putting it into sleep mode. I'm fairly certain I can avoid the validating by doing these unnecessary steps. :p

DustyMonkey
11-20-2012, 05:52 PM
Did you try what I suggested?

Whic part of UNTIL COMPLETED confuses you? Why don't you leave this thread because you think everyone else is stupid, but really its you thats stupid?

ijustpwnedu96
11-20-2012, 06:58 PM
First, it was validating steam files 24/7.
(Doesn't work after 6 hours of waiting)

Next, I uninstall TF2 (It took 2 hours to uninstall)

Then, it tells me its still validating files even after I uninstalled TF2...

After re-installing steam, TF2 is suspended from downloading and validating cache files still pops up stuck exactly at 36%...



Can't play TF2 anymore... oh well... no more buying keys at the Mann Co. Store ^^

iridescentFUZZ
11-21-2012, 03:02 AM
Whic part of UNTIL COMPLETED confuses you? Why don't you leave this thread because you think everyone else is stupid, but really its you thats stupid?

Do you not understand what words mean? Did you even read what I said after the part about validate till completed?
Or are you just working yourself into a rabid frenzy because you did less than glance over my post and saw the words "close it once completed"?

The issue, at least for me and a couple of other people I know, arises from steam not having a chance to exit properly on Windows shutdown. If you manually shut down steam(after allowing validation to complete properly one time) and make sure it has closed completely(via the task manager) before shutting down Windows you should have no problems the next time you launch. Of course you'll have to exit steam manually before shutting down Windows every time after that.

Ardy
11-21-2012, 04:13 AM
If it's a issue with steam having to close down completely on shutdown, then it's still an issue. Our trouble is with the hassle it is and not with it actually showing up. Having to manually shutdown a program because it can't do it by himself is stupid and annoying, and a hassle all the way.

Danny_Jaya
11-21-2012, 05:58 AM
this is stupid, i just want to play tf2, now its validate over and over until corrupt itself, now downloading 1.7 gb

iridescentFUZZ
11-21-2012, 06:23 AM
If it's a issue with steam having to close down completely on shutdown, then it's still an issue. Our trouble is with the hassle it is and not with it actually showing up. Having to manually shutdown a program because it can't do it by himself is stupid and annoying, and a hassle all the way.

Yes, it's still an issue; but I've given you a solution. Right-clicking on the steam icon and selecting "Exit" before shutting down Windows is too much of a hassle?

Fine, go ahead and keep validating your game every time you restart your PC.

DustyMonkey
11-21-2012, 06:47 PM
Do you not understand what words mean?

I understand that you continue to think that everyone else is stupid.

It really doesnt matter how long and drawn out you try to make your instructions, because we arent stupid and understood the first ♥♥♥♥ing time.

Get it yet? You are being stupid. Not us.

iridescentFUZZ
11-22-2012, 01:43 AM
I understand that you continue to think that everyone else is stupid.

It really doesnt matter how long and drawn out you try to make your instructions, because we arent stupid and understood the first ♥♥♥♥ing time.

Get it yet? You are being stupid. Not us.

Yes, I certainly feel stupid after reading your three posts for the second time, realising that not only do you not understand what my words mean, you don't understand what your own words mean.

DustyMonkey
11-22-2012, 05:33 AM
You really are stupid. Your original advice was to validate, then close steam, then reboot, and then observe no validation until the next reboot.

Except it didnt require a reboot to observe no validation after that. The validation requirement doesnt trigger again for 24 hours (you know, this whole ♥♥♥♥ing thread? yeah... stupid people ignore it), no matter how many reboots you do or how you shut steam down.

Then your new advice is to shut down steam manually.. except I've been doing that for years. Been there. Done that. You think I'm stupid, but its you in error..

Now leave the thread. You arent helping anyone. You are just pretending to help, acting like you know what you are talking about when you arent in a position to have ever known some of the things you are assuming (you have never been in a position to know my shutdown procedure, but you act like you do.. thats called you being stupid)

The Heavy
11-22-2012, 05:44 AM
Valve plz fix this ASAP

iridescentFUZZ
11-22-2012, 10:50 AM
You really are stupid. Your original advice was to validate, then close steam, then reboot, and then observe no validation until the next reboot.

My advice was to shut steam down yourself(and make sure it really is gone via the task manager) before you shut down windows. You would then, theoretically, not have to validate when the PC started up. You'd also have to remember to continue to exit steam before shutting down windows every time.

Except it didnt require a reboot to observe no validation after that. The validation requirement doesnt trigger again for 24 hours (you know, this whole ♥♥♥♥ing thread? yeah... stupid people ignore it), no matter how many reboots you do or how you shut steam down.

So you think steam has a function that evaluates whether or not it needs to validate your game every 24 hours? Haha, that's a good one. That they'd code it like that and have steam do nothing(till the next 24hr mark) when it finds corrupt/mismatched files, rather than have it validate when local files don't match during sync.
There's also the fact that me, and a couple of my friends noticed that after allowing the game to validate completely, and allowing steam to shut down properly, upon the next boot, it would not validate. We also noticed that if steam was killed via the task manager or not allowed to close properly before shutdown, it would validate the game even if 24 hours hadn't passed since the last validation.

Oh, "this whole heartsing thread"? Clearly you haven't even read it, since I have one, (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=33002390&postcount=39) two, (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=33077539&postcount=81) three, (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=33235530&postcount=131) four, (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=32598790&postcount=10) five, (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=32520524&postcount=3) six (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=33258755&postcount=138) posts in this very thread that mention steam validating the game on reboots, rather than anything about 24 hour gaps.

Then your new advice is to shut down steam manually.. except I've been doing that for years. Been there. Done that. You think I'm stupid, but its you in error..

First off, there was no new advice. Exiting steam and shutting down steam manually mean the same thing. Second, I'm supposed to know you've been doing that because I'm psychic, aren't I? Do you understand what giving advice entails? You posted:

"Validating until "completed" doesnt work. Period. End of story.
Re-installing steam doesn't work. Period. End of story. "

You said absolutely nothing about shutting steam down manually before shutting down windows. My suggestion was to allow it to validate completely, in addition to shutting steam down manually and rebooting to see whether or not it validates. You then replied:

"Whic part of UNTIL COMPLETED confuses you? Why don't you leave this thread because you think everyone else is stupid, but really its you thats stupid? "

Note how you still have mentioned nothing about shutting steam down manually, or trying out my suggestion because you seem to have seen the words "close it once completed" in my original post. You then worked yourself into an unholy rage because you only read part of my suggestion and made your own stupid assumptions about me telling you to do something you'd already done.

(you have never been in a position to know my shutdown procedure, but you act like you do.. thats called you being stupid)

Please, do point out where I said something like "You are most definitely shutting down steam improperly". Unless you really do have some kind of reading comprehension, I made no assumptions about anything involving you running your PC, I made suggestions. Don't confuse the two. Sure, I made assumptions about your intellect(completely irrelevant to the problem), but you did actually start it.

Oh, and even if you are shutting steam down before you shut down windows, here's a post(#115) (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=33181583&postcount=115) from this thread that indicates it's possible that even using steam's exit button may not close it down properly. Obviously, if you're having this problem you're completely screwed since killing it via task manager won't allow it to finish whatever it was doing.

Lobotomas
11-23-2012, 01:56 AM
Still no fix by valve yet ..

Lobotomas
11-23-2012, 02:05 AM
Yes, it's still an issue; but I've given you a solution. Right-clicking on the steam icon and selecting "Exit" before shutting down Windows is too much of a hassle?

Fine, go ahead and keep validating your game every time you restart your PC.

You r not giving a resolution you r giving a opinion on a problem. Maybe you still dont get but it doesnt work. So dont pretend that you r hero who help every body and the ppl r too stupid to follow your "super" advice. They r not stupid, your advice doenst work..

If anybody want to fix it ask valve support for help. Dont valid this every time and dont look for solution here..

ColacanNL
11-23-2012, 05:18 AM
Just keep bugging Valve with the problem and in the meantime, let it validate up to 10%, close it when it passes that. TF2 now works for the day.

DustyMonkey
11-23-2012, 05:47 AM
My advice was to shut steam down yourself(and make sure it really is gone via the task manager) before you shut down windows.

I am sooo stupid that I just didnt understand this very simple thing you've said 10 times now but still think I don't understand... you are soo totally right.. I still dont understand it.. I am so dumb.. you are so right that I am so dumb..

/sarcasm


First off, there was no new advice. Exiting steam and shutting down steam manually mean the same thing.


Rebooting was the new part. You are now willfully ignoring your own words while assuming others are too stupid to follow your own words. I see why you would assume that, since you cant even follow your own words.

Just leave the thread, OK? You arent offering a solution. You are pretending that a solution exists when one does not, which most definitely hurts everyone with the issue.


Second, I'm supposed to know you've been doing that because I'm psychic, aren't I?


No, you arent supposed to know what I am doing. THATS THE ♥♥♥♥ING POINT. You are pretending that you know what I am doing, pretending that I didnt follow your advice, basically just assuming that I am stupid.

YOU ARE THE STUPID ONE.

NOW LEAVE.

StupidlyClever
11-23-2012, 06:34 PM
GUYS.

QUIT ♥♥♥♥ING ARGUING.

Bumping this because I don't want to lose my sanity over ten minutes of waiting for a game I want to play NOW.

randommz
11-25-2012, 06:56 AM
Maybe if this forum gets so popular they will fix it

quaffcravat
11-25-2012, 08:57 AM
Same problem here ...sorry but Im just glad Im not alone

Skibur
11-25-2012, 09:35 AM
Have any one of you send a support ticket? If not, that's your problem for waiting someone to talk about this.

Maxus
11-25-2012, 12:53 PM
I finaly FOUND A FIX FOR "VALIDATING GAME CACHE FILES" !!!!

just make a backup copy of your tf through steam (its RMB on Team Fortress 2 in library). then delete all gcfs connected to TF2. Install TF2 from that backup copy - no more validating :) tell me if it worked guys!

azzonie
11-25-2012, 01:32 PM
My advice was to shut steam down yourself(and make sure it really is gone via the task manager) before you shut down windows. You would then, theoretically, not have to validate when the PC started up. You'd also have to remember to continue to exit steam before shutting down windows every time.





Dude, why are you still trying to help a mad lumbering idiot? He does not seem to be able to function because of his anger. Just leave him to his own misery. He does not appreciate someone trying to help.

Also, stop letting Steam start up with Windows.

iridescentFUZZ
11-25-2012, 03:57 PM
I finaly FOUND A FIX FOR "VALIDATING GAME CACHE FILES" !!!!

just make a backup copy of your tf through steam (its RMB on Team Fortress 2 in library). then delete all gcfs connected to TF2. Install TF2 from that backup copy - no more validating :) tell me if it worked guys!

Since I can still get steam to force me to validate by shutting it down improperly, I'll give your suggestion a try tomorrow and see how it goes.

Also, stop letting Steam start up with Windows.

To be fair, I think this depends on hardware. On my 3+ year old HDD, my network connection would very often initialise after steam and steam would think it needed updates at every damn boot. So I disabled it on startup.

But then I bought an SSD recently, and now my network connection initialises before steam has a chance to get to the stage where it checks for platform updates.

Or are you saying it should be disabled on startup for other reasons?

azzonie
11-25-2012, 05:45 PM
Or are you saying it should be disabled on startup for other reasons?

Yes. Reducing the number of start up items is the first step to tuning a computer. Having Steam decide it needs to validate a game or download an update while playing some other game can cause lag and file corruption. Then if you are not playing a Steam game you do not have to worry about shutting it down before you exit Windows or have it hang your Windows exit. This all leads to less possibility of file corruption or confusing Steam.

Most of these issues seem to have started for most people when they moved to the new file content system. It still needs work. I sometimes launch games that tell me they need to be restarted to update. I might have to restart it 10 times before it updates. It happens with Dota 2 and now CSGO. TF2 having to verify all the time is just another symptom of a bugged system.

rowdy79
11-25-2012, 07:19 PM
My Tf2 was playing up for the last month. I tried validating it several times, defragging etc. I couldn't be bothered anymore so I just let it validate fully, every time I wanted to play.

Now, this week, it has stopped validating! I just double click my icon and after 30 secs or so, it launches, no questions asked!
Huzzah for me :D

iridescentFUZZ
11-26-2012, 10:50 AM
Most of these issues seem to have started for most people when they moved to the new file content system. It still needs work. I sometimes launch games that tell me they need to be restarted to update. I might have to restart it 10 times before it updates. It happens with Dota 2 and now CSGO. TF2 having to verify all the time is just another symptom of a bugged system.

I once had dota ask me to restart after a game because I was playing when an update rolled out, but I would think that's because you'd have a client-server conflict if it were to let you join a lobby.

As for the new filesystem, its relation to steam could be what's causing these issues with TF2, since TF2 has yet to be converted to the new filesystem.

HeartlessNobody
11-27-2012, 01:40 AM
I finaly FOUND A FIX FOR "VALIDATING GAME CACHE FILES" !!!!

just make a backup copy of your tf through steam (its RMB on Team Fortress 2 in library). then delete all gcfs connected to TF2. Install TF2 from that backup copy - no more validating :) tell me if it worked guys!

This actually DOES work in most cases. Unfortunately, his wording is a little bit off. So, taking from a facepunch thread, and with a little editing revision, i reveal the way i fixed it from validating every time.

I finaly FOUND A FIX FOR "VALIDATING GAME CACHE FILES" !!!!

First of all, you start tf2 on your main account - if it works and you can play - good. Just quit the game like you normaly do.

Then you go to Library >>> and press RMB (Right Mouse Button) on TF2 then Backup Game Files...

Make backup of tf2. After that, go to your steamapps folder and CUT every gcf file in there (should be 13 files) http://scr.hu/0eva/egjoo and put them in some other folder (doesnt matter what folder, just not steamapps).

Then restart steam, and click Steam>Backup and Restore Games, Locate where the backup was placed, and use the CD format. (That's the one that worked for me, if you aren't planning on burning the files, it doesn't matter anyway)

Install TF2 through that and voila - TF2 should launch without validating! If it is working correctly you can delete gcfs you have previously cut - it's a waste of disk space.

This is the only solution that have worked. I have defragged and optimized my entire disk. I have deleted every file except Steam.exe and steamapps folder. I have done many, many things but only this have worked (I suppose that you could just re-download instead but backup might be faster if you have slower Internet connection).

I have tested it and I can idle with my main account on and my Idle accounts running in the background.

Let me know if it worked!


This worked in my case, it does take a bit of time, but its worth it. Having to validate a game all the time is a pain in the ♥♥♥.

Also, make SURE You delete ALL the .gcf file's in the screenshot, or else when you run the backup, It will redownload the parts you're missing, just because not every single one of those files aren't deleted, so again, make sure all of them are deleted before restoring. ((I would know, i made the same mistake, frustrating as all hell))

Maxus
11-27-2012, 04:38 AM
Thats was my post on facepunch so don't take all the credit :D haha

I hope this will solve the problem for most of you ;)

iridescentFUZZ
11-28-2012, 03:15 AM
Also, make SURE You delete ALL the .gcf file's in the screenshot, or else when you run the backup, It will redownload the parts you're missing, just because not every single one of those files aren't deleted, so again, make sure all of them are deleted before restoring. ((I would know, i made the same mistake, frustrating as all hell))

Yeah, that's what happened to me and then I gave up because who wants to download 10GB of stuff. Maybe I'll try it again later.

twotone8
12-02-2012, 12:14 AM
blimey. i think the backup and restore thingy actually worked. cheers mate

rowdy79
12-02-2012, 04:07 PM
My Tf2 was playing up for the last month. I tried validating it several times, defragging etc. I couldn't be bothered anymore so I just let it validate fully, every time I wanted to play.

Now, this week, it has stopped validating! I just double click my icon and after 30 secs or so, it launches, no questions asked!
Huzzah for me :D


Now its validating again..... crap!

Eek!
12-02-2012, 04:19 PM
Not sure why this thread has got preciously zero staff posts - there's clearly a persistent problem of sorts going on.

BoneFletcher
12-03-2012, 04:18 PM
Bump because this is a ♥♥♥♥ing problem that needs Steam's attention.

TheFormalRabbit
12-04-2012, 08:35 AM
Bumpacars.

ReaperTeh
12-04-2012, 07:44 PM
Doubt Valve/TF Team will fix this any time soon. I've been having the same problem for a while now, didn't know so many people were having it.

I wonder what Gabe would say if he was actually forced to look at this thread.

Jacfu
12-04-2012, 11:11 PM
Yes, it came and went and now its back again after big picture update.
Wish they would just fix it /

Naw
12-12-2012, 02:29 PM
Bump.

It doesn't happen to me everyday, but atleast once a week I get that verifying cache window. It all started around 2 months ago, possibly after the halloween update.

RonanZer0
12-12-2012, 03:18 PM
I'm trying to test some sounds I make with TF2 and it's a real pain to just have to SIT THERE and have steam expect me to be patient valve needs to make this and hl2.exe not working the MAIN PRIORITY of updates now!

greg2302
12-13-2012, 02:55 PM
Bump.


It's back again. Can't remember what fixed it last time but it wasn't anything too drastic or time consuming.

NBGskaterNBG
12-14-2012, 07:38 AM
Biggest problem for me is that it always gets stuck at 100% and never moves on afterwards.

So I'm stuck with this problem until Valve takes action

spencer314
12-14-2012, 09:08 AM
Still happens to me on occasion, even if I don't try and play.

alec427
12-18-2012, 07:32 PM
Happening to me now. Haven't been able to play for a couple days.

Also, whoever keeps constantly saying to wait until 10% and click cancel,

THAT DOESN'T WORK.

Thanks if anyone can actually help.

EDIT:

Set autoupdate to not update automatically, worked for me, don't know if that was what fixed it.

EDIT EDIT:

Nope, doesn't work anymore.

VALVE FIX THIS. I swear I'm gonna go to a video game tech college just to get hired by Valve JUST TO FIX THIS.

Dimeinurear
12-19-2012, 10:10 AM
Are you KIDDING ME?

TF2 has had this bug since AUGUST and it's still a problem?

♥♥♥♥ing hell, Valve, get your ♥♥♥♥ together.

crazygamer34894
12-19-2012, 10:45 AM
So, yeah, like the title says, every time I launch TF2, it starts to validate the game cache files.

I am Gonna Be HONEST.

This Happens to me as well everytime i get a Automatic Update for Counter Strike Global Offensive o_0

I Dont MIND Though :)

Jus Wonder Why Though.

i was Using Windows XP Pro with SP2 x64. MSDN .sdc

but i made a BackUP to a DVD and re-applied the BackUP onto my Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 Desktop.

and there was a MINOR Update for The Dedicated Server of CS:Go.

OTHERWISE Everything is fine.

except i struggled to get Red Orchestra 2 to go FULLScreen. correctly.

Jacfu
12-19-2012, 01:49 PM
Will it ever end?

S1ckm4n
12-20-2012, 03:17 PM
happening to me aswell...

PYTo
12-21-2012, 02:06 AM
This damn annoying bug started to pop up... GOD it's ANNOYING!

AnAkIn
12-21-2012, 02:12 AM
They've just added some VPK support in the Orange Box filesystem for sv_pure, which means they'll most likely move it to the new content system soon. This would be the end of validating problems.

CyberRhino
12-21-2012, 05:38 PM
I've been playing TF2 for close to a year now, and I've never had this damn problem before, but today Steam "validated" my TF2 6 times already, and it's in the process of doing it again right now. I read somewhere that de-fragging the TF2 cache might help me, but it didn't.

I demand a fix for this, it's really starting to piss me off.

ohio4987
12-22-2012, 06:33 AM
Every time I open Steam, it completely freezes until I use Task Manager to end the task. When I re-open Steam, TF2 files are validated, which takes 5-10 minutes. I don't even play TF2 anymore, I purely use Steam for CS:GO, so I'm probably going to uninstall TF2 until a solution is found. Windows 7 64-bit here.

heavypyro2
12-22-2012, 11:09 AM
It appears that I'm not the only one that has this problem. Mine is somewhat special. Once I begin to click my short cut; it starts off with the usual message of the game loading; then a message says that "Please exit any running games or tools before attempting to verify your game cache."

At first, I thought that it was just a small error and that if I click it again it will start immediately. So I just did that, except that the same message appears again. So I went to my library and went to the properties of the game to verify the game caches, but the same message appears again.

There is a catch though. The game only starts to validate somewhere around at 8:00-9:00 PM (midnight) and it starts to validate. Is there a way to fix this? :(

ViperZeth
12-22-2012, 12:04 PM
I always Defrag Game files once it starts validating, once defragging is done no validation is needed for that time, but it stays annoying. Its happening to my Gmod as well.

thekillingmedic
12-22-2012, 09:05 PM
I got used to that, i thought i was the only one, kind of relief for me. Anyways do anyone know when VALVe will fix this? Nor if they care about fixing this?

Freyar
12-22-2012, 11:21 PM
It's been starting to crop up on a few of my computers. As far as my home machine goes, I don't have any Source-based games, so those never have trouble, but as soon as I install anything like TF2, DotA, or Garry's Mod I start seeing a forced verify that even interrupts what I'm trying to play.

KAHZPro
12-23-2012, 05:31 PM
I'm not sure if this will work for you guys, but this is exactly what I did, and it worked out for me:

1. Validate the files
2. Defragment cache files
3. Exit Steam WITHOUT playing the game
4. Rename "ClientRegistry.blob" to "ClientRegistryOld.blob"
5. Open Steam, and test the issue

Once again, it might not work for everyone.

Instant Gamer
12-24-2012, 09:48 AM
I got the same thing, Only with GMod also

coolboy4531
12-24-2012, 09:59 AM
It's a pain in the ars.

Okay, so I tried about everything and I finally found 5 solutions.

RECOMMENDED from (MOST-LESS)

1: Wait for validation to go to 10% then cancel and start TF2.
2: Defrag <Right Click TF2 - Properties - Local Files - Defrag>
3: Completely quit out Steam and go to <C:\ProgramFiles (x86\Steam> and delete ClientRegistry.BLOB and AppUpdateStats.BLOB. Open Steam again.
4: Rage Spam TF2. Cancel, rinse, and repeat.
5: Wait for validation to go to 100% then wait for 15 minutes it should say Completed! Press Close after that and start TF2.

Eek!
12-24-2012, 10:46 AM
Not sure why this thread has got precisely zero staff posts - there's clearly a persistent problem of sorts going on.Well quite.

AcetheGolden
12-25-2012, 04:26 PM
Yyyup, happening to me too :c

Shlamalama
12-25-2012, 05:45 PM
This actually DOES work in most cases. Unfortunately, his wording is a little bit off. So, taking from a facepunch thread, and with a little editing revision, i reveal the way i fixed it from validating every time.



This worked in my case, it does take a bit of time, but its worth it. Having to validate a game all the time is a pain in the ♥♥♥.

Also, make SURE You delete ALL the .gcf file's in the screenshot, or else when you run the backup, It will redownload the parts you're missing, just because not every single one of those files aren't deleted, so again, make sure all of them are deleted before restoring. ((I would know, i made the same mistake, frustrating as all hell))

not really a solution, this should be fixed on their end not ours....

spencer314
12-26-2012, 05:50 PM
I just jinxed myself on this. I thought to myself 15 minutes ago, "TF2 hasn't validated itself in several days, must be fixed now", having played at least once a day. Go to launch just now and it tries to validate itself. Dang.

azzonie
12-26-2012, 05:53 PM
Over 30K views. Are they ever going to fix this crap.

TheDutchOwner
12-27-2012, 04:02 AM
This still isn't fixed?! I'm having this f---ing issue for a few weeks now, it's really bothering me, especially that Valve isn't doing anything it seems. :mad:

Emparceus
12-27-2012, 08:41 AM
Egh, I didn't think this many people would be having this problem without Valve fixing it. I'm having to validate TF2 everytime Steam is closed and opened again, which means I have to wait for validation every day.

Sylenthemp
12-27-2012, 02:49 PM
I think I've validated TF2 2 times in one day, and asked me for a 3rd. This has been happening constantly for some time: every time i try to start TF2, it validates some files again. Same thing for all of us.

Valve, please do something..FAST. It's probably the worst bug TF2 has ever had, and we all want a fix A.S.A.P.

luciferb
12-28-2012, 03:35 AM
Well, it's good to see it's been going on this long. I'm not even able to play the damn game. The last time the game was updating, I was currently dl'ing a new game, so I paused the download. Now I've went ahead and updated my entire games list, which is huge, and gotten rid of all the yellow titles, except this one. Every time I try to resume updating, it validates. Every time it validates, it gets stuck at 100%. I just now let it sit there, for like 2 hours+ while I watched an entire movie, and it is still stuck at 100%. I also noticed I am not able to use any props or chars from tf2 in gmod. It's weird, when I finally get tired of waiting, and tell it to cancel the validation process, every now and then steam becomes unresponsive, and I have to task manager it's ♥♥♥. Now every time I open steam, it automatically starts the validation process again. This is ridiculous.

TheDutchOwner
12-29-2012, 09:06 AM
Here's something I noticed: When it hits 36%, I can click cancel, click on launch again, and TF2 opens just normally. Everyone should try this out, see if it works. In that case it is definitely the same issue we're having.

TheEveryman
12-29-2012, 06:24 PM
I wish that they'd:
-Acknowledge that they know there's a problem
-Give us a workaround by not FORCING us to validate (For example, give us a little button to click on that says "Validate Later")

I've had TF2 for over a year and only recently has it started to act up like this out of the blue.

Jacfu
12-30-2012, 12:10 AM
sigh, it is just never-ending / will we never be set free?

Zerged
12-30-2012, 01:17 PM
Happens to me as well for several months/weeks now ...

NeXDemise
12-30-2012, 04:51 PM
Same problem for a few weeks now. Stupid steam.

Alinchicken6
01-01-2013, 08:18 AM
This is still a problem that just won't go away. I've already tried everything suggested on this thread.

AcetheGolden
01-01-2013, 12:36 PM
My support ticket's not been answered yet :/

DJConan
01-02-2013, 05:37 PM
This just recently started happening to me about two weeks ago. I have had TF2 since it was released and I am just now having this problem.

Shlamalama
01-02-2013, 06:29 PM
I wish that they'd:
-Acknowledge that they know there's a problem
-Give us a workaround by not FORCING us to validate (For example, give us a little button to click on that says "Validate Later")

I've had TF2 for over a year and only recently has it started to act up like this out of the blue.

yup, validation tool that claims everything is ok once its done, but triggers again after, means the validation tool is broken, its just logic.

ibimon
01-06-2013, 04:49 AM
bump!