Messed up 2D view

[The Fox]

For some reason my 2D view in Hammer is fubar'd. Some of the lines in the 2D grid appears either completely transparent or almost too grey to be able to be seen. The numbers which says how long,wide and deep a brush is are also messed up. Some parts of the numbers wont display and it appears the message has duplicated itself. I will post screenshots if needed and i'm sorry if this has been brought up before and a solution found.

[Slackiller]

perhaps a screenshot,
I seen other people with 2d grid problems on the VERC forums, if you wanna search thru the posts.

http://www.chatbear.com/board.plm?b=590&v=flatold&g=21

[The Fox]

A picture of the problem. I have marked the problems so they can be seen easier with a red circle.

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/3429/problemoc5.jpg

If you need more screenshots tell me. But that is praticly the problem.

[Marine]

I think it was graphics drivers -- dont hold me to that though...

ATI or nVidia?

[The Fox]

I think it was graphics drivers -- dont hold me to that though...

ATI or nVidia?

nVidia, Geforce7900GT.

[Shiny]

Try going to Tools > Options... then in the 2D views tab, go down to the bottom where it says 'Grid' and slide the Intensity bar up. You can make the grid lines VERY bright like that.

[The Fox]

This is yet another problem that occurs. If anyone has any solution, please post it I really need help with this.

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9174/problem2pz4.jpg

And changing the brightness of the grid doesnt work either. The grey will just become alot more brighter.

[Nicadeamas]

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For this error:
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/3429/problemoc5.jpg
I think this might help.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Dell-M992-19-Flat-Screen-Black-CRT-Monitor_W0QQitemZ200113053345QQihZ010QQcategoryZ11 6350QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

My theory is that your monitor is 15" (to small) and hammer was not built to run on it.
This is all just a guess but a good way to chek and see would be to look around on the grid while you move around the grid. If the faded lines seem to move as you move around then it may be your monitor. if they are specific lines that fade then I havent a clue. :(
Also any faded lines should seem to turn back to normal lines as you zoom in. (mouse scroll if you got one.)


For this error:
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9174/problem2pz4.jpg

umm, I dont know but your not the only one who has it:
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=563202

[The Fox]

Im fairly certain its not my monitor seeing as how I have been mapping for HL2 since the second day it was released. Ever since it has worked just fine and just now it begun acting up.

[witalldonebefor]

Have you tried reinstalling it?

[The Fox]

Have you tried reinstalling it?

Just tried it and it didnt help at all. Any other suggestions?

[zyklus]

Simple solutions...

For: http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/3429/problemoc5.jpg
I don't really see what the problem is in this image, except those grid lines you've circled mark the x y and z axes. It has nothing to do with your monitor, hardware, or drivers. The x y and z axes are colored this way as a guidline you can gauge where the origin is. Also, it would seem that your grid size is too large, you can check the size of the grid in the bottom right hand corner of the window (http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9174/problem2pz4.jpg : yours says "Snap off grid: 128") Use "[" to decrease grid size, and "]" to increase grid size. Also, press shift+w to toggle snap-to-grid (and it will say "Snap on grid: 128").


And...

For: http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9174/problem2pz4.jpg
In order to save CPU, hammer will not draw any views when it isn't active; so you may get hall-of-mirrors when you drag another program other than hammer across the screen. First, hide the face edit dialog box by pressing shift+a to toggle it (make sure hammer is focused). If that doesn't work, hover your mouse of the 3d view (to give the 3d view the focus), and use the arrow keys to rotate the camera view a bit to redraw the view.

[The Fox]

Perhaps this image will show the problem abit better. The grid lines are grey/white almost invinsible. If I turn my background to white so the grid becomes black it shows up fine.

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/5082/unnamedbv2.jpg

Changing the grid size doesnt do anything. And the 2D view overlapping the 3D view happens whenever I open a window within Hammer. If I move it onto any 2D view the overlapping goes away but im used to having it in the middle of the screen so moving it gets quite annoying after awhile.

[zyklus]

Go to Tools->Options. Click on the "2D views" tab, and look under the group labeled "Grid". Here you can find useful information about the grid. Try these settings:

Size: 32
Intensity: 50
Highlight every 64 units: check
Highlight every __ grid lines: 8
Hide grid smaller than 4 pixels: uncheck
Dotted grid: uncheck

[The Fox]

Tried those settings and it didnt change anything. Another screenshot of how it looks like if you look in the two 2D views on the left youll see the lines which are barely visible. And on the right the whole 2D grid which also doesnt look right.

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/8119/gfsgfsku2.png

[zyklus]

Each 2d view has its own "zoom factor", the one on the left is zoomed out, and the other two are zoomed in. To fix this, press shift+g (magnifying glass) and press leftclick to zoom in and rightclick to zoom out. There are also keyboard shortcuts to default zooms: Hover your mouse over one of the views, then press a button from '0' - '9' (not on the keypad). '0' is zoomed out, and '9' is zoomed in.

[The Fox]

I just zoomed in to show the lines which are barely visible because you didnt seem to get the problem before.

[Marine]

Could this be similar to the guys that are having the problems with ingame fog in CS:S?

Where things a certain distance get white?

[Shiny]

I'm sorry. I'm having trouble figuring out what the problem is myself. I understand what you said, but when I look at the pictures, I don't see what you describe.

All the views look normal to me. The lines are supposed to be gray and I can see them all very well in your picture.

Do me a favor. Go to Tools > options... Click on the 2D view and take a screenshot of your 2D configurations, then post that picture here. I'm just so curious as to what settings you have for the 2D.

[SkullHozer]

Make sure you have anti-aliasing disabled
in your graphics driver settings.

I'm certain that is what is causing the problem.

Are you using an nVidia or ATI card?

[Marine]

He already said -> nVidia 7900

[SkullHozer]

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n239/skullhozer/TurnOffAA.jpg

[zyklus]

I'm sorry. I'm having trouble figuring out what the problem is myself. I understand what you said, but when I look at the pictures, I don't see what you describe.

All the views look normal to me. The lines are supposed to be gray and I can see them all very well in your picture.

I agree... I see nothing wrong with the grid lines... However, if you can't see them and we can, then this brings up a few questions:

1. Have you tried adjusting your screen brightness/contrast?
2. Have you tried adjusting your video card's brightness/contrast/gamma? If you have the nvidia drivers, theres a wizard that will help you get the correct values on your screen.
3. What screen resolution are you running at? (1024x768? as the images describe)

[The Fox]

Skullhozer, Thank you so much. I just followed your steps and as it turns out, I have AA enabled. Disabled it and my grid is back to normal now. Thanks alot.

[SkullHozer]

Skullhozer, Thank you so much. I just followed your steps and as it turns out, I have AA enabled. Disabled it and my grid is back to normal now. Thanks alot.No problem! I've encountered this “bug” countless times before, since I like to view my compiled maps with AA enabled, yet, when mapping I don't (since that messes up the grid and views). Maybe someone should sticky this thread?