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NunchuckGames
03-26-2008, 04:35 PM
I've seen some questions on how achievements work, so this should help clarify:

Ninja Reflex has 4 save slots. This enables up to 4 people to have their own character on the same computer, as well as to facilitate local multiplayer games. But it's important to understand that Steam doesn't differentiate between the save slots. What this means is that once you unlock an achievement, it's unlocked for good and regardless of what save slot you were playing on.

So, if you're sharing the game with more than one person, you should pick a save slot and stick to it. Otherwise you'll inadvertently "steal" gem and belt rank achievements. To illustrate, if Bill logs onto Steam, makes a character, and earns the first 3 belt rank achievements, and then signs out, but then Joe logs onto Steam and plays Bill's character, he'll steal Bill's 4th belt rank achievement, and Joe will have a gap on his first 3.

Also, if you play the game without a net connection, we've found that Steam will sometimes not update achievements you've unlocked. So to be safe, if you care about accurate achievement tracking, I recommend playing only when connected.

EliteMacFreak
03-27-2008, 05:48 PM
Sounds like poor design, rather than a problem with Steam.


Bryan Clodfelter
Senior Hardware Editor
InsideMacGames.com

Noth
03-27-2008, 06:05 PM
Sounds like poor design, rather than a problem with Steam.


Bryan Clodfelter
Senior Hardware Editor
InsideMacGames.com

I'd have to disagree with you there. You play any Steam game that has achievements (Portal, TF2, EP2, Audiosurf). The achievements unlock when the account has unlocked it, not the specific savegame.

If I understand them correctly, this is how they work:

TF2: Sure, no savegames, but it's clear how it works. Your account unlocks it when whoever playing completes the condition.
Portal: Savegames, but your account still unlocks when whoever playing completes the condition.
EP2: See Portal
Audiosurf: Mix of TF2/Portal/Ep2 achievement styles in one...

The achievements in Ninja Reflex work based on the account playing, rather than the savegame.

However, If I'm wrong, feel free to correct me

NunchuckGames
03-27-2008, 06:19 PM
You're correct, Noth. Thanks for offering the explanation.

EliteMacFreak
03-27-2008, 06:20 PM
No, you're right about the account playing versus savegame. I spoke too soon--I wasn't aware of the fact that the achievements were the Portal/Half Life 2/Team Fortress 2 variety.

OzLefty76
04-02-2012, 04:56 AM
The poor design bit is where achievements that were earned while offline (or when the game was originally downloaded before restarting Steam) don't show up. Which is most absurd with stackable ones like the belts - I have the yellow belt achievement but not the red.