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dsmart

08-16-2009, 10:54 AM

My comments about the review (which I thought was well written and captured all the unique pros/cons of the game).

The sandbox mode does not require objectives because that’s the whole "sandbox" point. You create your own objectives. e.g, if you want to go take on any enemy base - just show up and see what happens. The AI is in full force and effect. So you can decide to take out their barracks, base or whatever.

Also, the bases are spread apart to prevent them from attacking each other automatically. Though I am considering doing something about that in a future DLC which would see all out war break out. But that would require bases to be placed within range (less than 75km from each other) of each other or all EAD assets be given long range (more than 75km) capabilities. Which means that as soon as you fire up the campaign, IA or sandbox, they'll all engage each other. Making the campaign and IA scenarios more complex. That’s why I didn't do that in the first place since they all take place on the same 400 sq. km map.

Voice acting. One word: budget. We actually had all the scripts ready for Somatone (the studio that did all the other audio sounds), but I cut that out at the last minute and asked them not to proceed once our potential publisher headed South and I had to tighten the purse strings.

As to the bases, as I've said before, we have all the assets that we need for that but that task was just cut due to time and performance. Now that the game is out, we're going to look to populate the bases with more ambient assets. My guess is that people are still going to complain because it is going to tank the performance on some systems. So that DLC may end up being a "use at your own risk" kinda thing.

ShooterSix

08-16-2009, 11:25 AM

When we will we start seeing DLC? Two weeks, a month?

dsmart

08-16-2009, 12:38 PM

When we will we start seeing DLC? Two weeks, a month?

That is TBD and I have no idea when that will be.

As I've stated before (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=931305), the extent and type of DCL depends on how well the games do in the long term. DLC do take time, money and resources to create.

We're already moving along with KnightBlade - our next game - as our primary concern.

We will of course release patches and such, but DLC is a whole other ballgame that is just too early to talk about. e.g. those Arma2 guys already announced an expansion pack, despite the fact that main game is still buggy as hell. The same thing they did with the first ArmaA game. We don't do that - and never have. We're a very small group and we cannot afford to take those kind of risks, let alone allienate our install base. Thats why we're still going games.

AAW (AOA is just a spin-off) was a huge financial risk for my studio since it is not the kind of game that we would otherwise have done if we had a choice. But market conditions caused me to put space/planetary combat game (KnightBlade was to be our next big game before AAW) on hold and do AAW instead.

So for now, I'm not planning beyond SteamWorks implementation but thats more engine related than DLC.

freemansailor

08-16-2009, 01:32 PM

Wait til we see reviews from IGN, GT, G4TV then we will decide.

dsmart

08-16-2009, 01:47 PM

Wait til we see reviews from IGN, GT, G4TV then we will decide.

People who make their buying decisions based on someone else's personal opinions are patently foolish. This has been proven to be the case time and time again. How many games got glowing reviews, but were rubbish? How many games got less than stellar reviews but turned out to be gems?

Thats what demos were made for. Reviews (books, tv, movies, games, whatever) are based on someone's personal opinions and not meant to be any sort of endorsement whatsoever. Any gamer - who still has his gamer card - knows this. A well written review gives you more ammo to make up your own mind.

Nice try. Do try not to derail this thread again because quite frankly we can do without the hassles of deleting your caustic posts/threads and which have proven to serve absolutely no purpose whatsoever - dispite the posting rules being pointed out to you time and time again. I know its hard, but try, 'mkay? Please?

Rumtruffle

08-16-2009, 02:12 PM

People who make their buying decisions based on someone else's personal opinions are patently foolish. This has been proven to be the case time and time again. How many games got glowing reviews, but were rubbish? How many games got less than stellar reviews but turned out to be gems?

if reviews/professional opinions are foolish then what is this thread for?

RT_

08-16-2009, 02:22 PM

if reviews/professional opinions are foolish then what is this thread for?

This thread is similar in purpose to the Official opinion discussion (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=931576) one, it's meant for letting people know what other people think about the game. You may (foolishly) or may not base your decision to buy the game on it, but it's still there. If there weren't such threads, you know people would claim we'd be censoring your speech freedom or something like that.

dsmart

08-16-2009, 03:09 PM

if reviews/professional opinions are foolish then what is this thread for?

Where exactly did I even utter those words?

freemansailor

08-16-2009, 07:28 PM

if reviews/professional opinions are foolish then what is this thread for?

ahaha +1 !!!

jaundiced

08-16-2009, 07:49 PM

if reviews/professional opinions are foolish then what is this thread for?

awesome :)

Elsan

08-16-2009, 09:27 PM

ShooterSix

08-16-2009, 09:57 PM

Please respect the fact that some of us do want to have good discussions, so stop these asinine comments.

As for the review, thanks for the link but it's very hard to read because of the white background...

What he said, except for the part about the review being hard to read. If the game doesn't come out today, which is Monday, I'm going to club a baby seal... to death.

Vaaish

08-16-2009, 10:40 PM

if reviews/professional opinions are foolish then what is this thread for?

People are innately foolish and therefore this thread exists to aid such foolishness by means of collecting these opinions in a single location.

Silliness aside, whether or not such things are useful has no bearing on what this thread is for. As clearly stated in the title, the thread is for discussion of game reviews.

Aramike

08-17-2009, 12:05 AM

if reviews/professional opinions are foolish then what is this thread for?I gathered he meant that using reviews/opinions as the sole basis for a buying decision was foolish ... seems pretty freakin' obvious to me, considering it was written in plain English.

That does not mean in any way that reviews/opinions don't merit discussion.

Seriously, those of you that have nothing better to do with your time but to try to play "gotcha" with dsmart, why not go play the games that you actually like rather than troll about a forum about a game you don't, merely because you're foolishly offended by the personality behind it?

Rumtruffle

08-17-2009, 12:46 AM

Nice try. Do try not to derail this thread again because quite frankly we can do without the hassles of deleting your caustic posts/threads and which have proven to serve absolutely no purpose whatsoever - dispite the posting rules being pointed out to you time and time again. I know its hard, but try, 'mkay? Please?

why was the user flamed for saying he is going to wait until the reviews from his trusted sources 'ign, gamespot, g4tv' are released?

how is his one sentence trying to derail the topic? i dont understand how it can be. hes personally waiting for those reviews so it can help make up his mind.

you see someone in possession of their full mental facultys would have posted something like 'I cannot comment on when or if IGN etc will post their reviews because they do not always review indie titles, or even all commercial titles. If you are specifically waiting for those reviews you might have a long wait'
instead he got.....flamed for a 'caustic' post??

Aramike

08-17-2009, 01:17 AM

why was the user flamed for saying he is going to wait until the reviews from his trusted sources 'ign, gamespot, g4tv' are released?

how is his one sentence trying to derail the topic? i dont understand how it can be. hes personally waiting for those reviews so it can help make up his mind.

you see someone in possession of their full mental facultys would have posted something like 'I cannot comment on when or if IGN etc will post their reviews because they do not always review indie titles, or even all commercial titles. If you are specifically waiting for those reviews you might have a long wait'
instead he got.....flamed for a 'caustic' post??The individual poster's reputation was taken into account, I'm sure.

Besides, what's it matter to you? Your subsequent argument made no sense and surely you needn't defend yourself, so why bother?

Rumtruffle

08-17-2009, 02:25 AM

Your subsequent argument made no sense and surely you needn't defend yourself, so why bother?

what a user has posted in the past has no bearing at all, unless someone is physically hurt by that users text message. what he posts now is what matters. each post should be treated on an individual basis.

i mean someone can say 'this game sucks' in one post, and then later ask a question about the campaign. the two arent related at all. the user has the right to change their mind between that first post and the second.

what subsequent argument?? where am i defending 'myself'??

Aramike

08-17-2009, 02:57 AM

what a user has posted in the past has no bearing at all, unless someone is physically hurt by that users text message. what he posts now is what matters. each post should be treated on an individual basis.

i mean someone can say 'this game sucks' in one post, and then later ask a question about the campaign. the two arent related at all. the user has the right to change their mind between that first post and the second.

what subsequent argument?? where am i defending 'myself'??Come on, man ... this isn't that freakin' hard to figure out, but let me break it down for you because you seem to have an axe to grind...

What I originally wrote was a response to this quote, from YOU:if reviews/professional opinions are foolish then what is this thread for? That quote makes no sense because you're arguing a point that wasn't made. Hence, my response, which what this:I gathered he meant that using reviews/opinions as the sole basis for a buying decision was foolish ... seems pretty freakin' obvious to me, considering it was written in plain English.

That does not mean in any way that reviews/opinions don't merit discussion. I then clearly went on with this, which was CLEARLY addressing more people than just you (as evidenced by my use of the phrase "those of you":Seriously, those of you that have nothing better to do with your time but to try to play "gotcha" with dsmart, why not go play the games that you actually like rather than troll about a forum about a game you don't, merely because you're foolishly offended by the personality behind it? Then you came back asking about why another user was "flamed" (which he was not). And my comment about you not having to defend yourself was another way of saying that the original poster doesn't need you to defend HIM, so stop exacerbating things.

Can I make this ANY clearer now?

dsmart

08-17-2009, 04:27 AM

why was the user flamed for saying he is going to wait until the reviews from his trusted sources 'ign, gamespot, g4tv' are released?

how is his one sentence trying to derail the topic? i dont understand how it can be. hes personally waiting for those reviews so it can help make up his mind.

you see someone in possession of their full mental facultys would have posted something like 'I cannot comment on when or if IGN etc will post their reviews because they do not always review indie titles, or even all commercial titles. If you are specifically waiting for those reviews you might have a long wait'
instead he got.....flamed for a 'caustic' post??

uhm, flamed? Nope, that was no flame. Just a warning. Since you're not a mod, you can't see his deleted posts and threads. My commentary was based on his history. As you can clearly see now, wind back one page and take a look.

Rumtruffle

08-17-2009, 04:29 AM

nevermind. was posted near enough the same time as dsmart answered for himself.

Cobalty2004

08-17-2009, 06:06 AM

h0tp0ck3t

08-17-2009, 06:23 AM

I guess I'll chip in and offer my 2cents on game reviews.

The only ones that matter are player reviews as too much of the industry pays big sites to give their games awesome reviews.

*cough Kane and Lynch cough*

Demos and trailers are better tools to help you judge what a game really is.

qft. i lost alot of respect for gamespot after that disaster.
play the demo and make your own review

dsmart

08-17-2009, 06:29 AM

I guess I'll chip in and offer my 2cents on game reviews.

The only ones that matter are player reviews as too much of the industry pays big sites to give their games awesome reviews.

*cough Kane and Lynch cough*

Demos and trailers are better tools to help you judge what a game really is.

You don't know that. Please stop.

This thread is for discussing the reviews of All Aspect Warfare, not the discussion of the review process.

All OT posts will be deleted.

Elsan

08-17-2009, 06:58 AM

Will you give big websites review copies of the game? Any website? This is not discussing the review process :P

dsmart

08-17-2009, 07:22 AM

Will you give big websites review copies of the game? Any website? This is not discussing the review process :P

AFAIK, they all have it already.

Rumtruffle

08-17-2009, 08:20 AM

qft. i lost alot of respect for gamespot after that disaster.
play the demo and make your own review

long live Jeff Gerstmann!
kane & lynch was crap and he got it right!

Elsan

08-18-2009, 07:53 AM

Reviews cannot be un-biased, just so you know :)

IgnoreThisPlox

08-18-2009, 07:56 AM

Reviews cannot be un-biased, just so you know :)

Well I guess we cannot trust anyone's word, not even yours, mine, the next poster, the guy below him, etc.

But since that is the case, I'll put my faith in a guy who's job is to write reviews.

dsmart

08-18-2009, 08:30 AM

No more OT posts in this thread please. This thread is for discussing media reviews of the game. Thanks.

.n£º.§ty|e$

08-22-2009, 09:16 PM

That's what reviews are there for by nature. To aid in buying decisions. Yes, they are somone's opinion, but in numbers, they are very dependable. With a general consensus, you can make a pretty sound decision. If the majority of reviewers say that a game was good, then it would probabaly be worth your money.

How many games got a positive consensus from reviewers but were hated by gamers? Not many? The opposite might hold true however. With with every game that is considered by the vast majority of gamers and reviewers alike to either be at either end of the spectrum, there are usually a few outliers, who have contrasting views.

Demos also often aren't good (and thus not dependable) representations of the full game. Reviews aren't endorsements, but I don't see how that would be relevant one way or another. The main purpose of a review is to identify the pros and cons of a game. Many people then make up their own mind on how "good" the game is and whether it's worth the money.

IgnoreThisPlox

08-24-2009, 05:50 PM

http://www.metacritic.com/search/process?sort=relevance&termtype=all&ts=all+aspect+warfare&ty=0&button=search
=/ ?
no results

hilltop67

08-25-2009, 06:33 AM

is it possible to be refunded the last 10 minutes of my life..this thread is a bigger joke than the person who started it, why in God's name would even waste your time responding to the snarls from the Steam Trollers and why good friend would you show such a clearly defensive attitude when I was intrigued that this game even had a forum and a demo..but now I see a truly upset company rep...if I were you I would delete this entire collection of trolls and good luck with the game and your company...:)

dsmart

09-01-2009, 02:12 AM

A link to the GameSpot review (he didn't like the game) was posted earlier. In order to keep all links in the same thread, the post was deleted and the link moved to the first post in this thread.

Irishoak

09-01-2009, 02:29 AM

Sameo

09-01-2009, 05:31 AM

People who make their buying decisions based on someone else's personal opinions are patently foolish.

I've never been tricked by a review under 3/10.

dsmart

09-01-2009, 05:48 AM

I was under the impression this was the place to do that, sorry if I was wrong. But the title of the thread suggested it was a good place to start. From now on I will scan all threads and post in the one that speaks of the review specifically.

Yeah, you do that, you hear?

Just off hand is this thread to talk about Game Reviews in general then?

Whats there to talk about? If you are looking to use this thread as an opportunity to continue your trolling and flaming (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/search.php?searchid=3628295) just because one reviewer doesn't like the game, don't - because we'll just delete it and lock the thread.

The game has a large and extensive demo. Those who want to try the game instead of putting their buying decisions in the hands of someone else, are free to do so.

I've never been tricked by a review under 3/10.

Well then, you're well ahead aren't you?

slayvus

09-01-2009, 06:28 AM

I've never been tricked by a review under 3/10.

Only problem I see with this is that if you do buy the game off of Steam your not going to get a refund unlike if you were to purchase retail(if you can).

dsmart

09-01-2009, 07:15 AM

Only problem I see with this is that if you do buy the game off of Steam your not going to get a refund unlike if you were to purchase retail(if you can).

The game is not available at retail. Even so, retail refunds for PC games ended years ago. And you're certainly not going to get a refund for a game just because it got a bad review. And again, thats why games have demos.

A lot of games get glowing reviews and are either a) bad or b) do poorly at retail, the devs/pubs go out of business etc etc

Our games have always been polarized in terms of reviews since there is no in-between. And certainly one reviewer's opinion is irrelevant. Especially when you consider that games cater to a different demographic. If gamers want to base their buying decisions on a review rather than playing a demo - which in our case was released well ahead of the game - thats their problem.

If a reviewer doesn't like the game and gamers who agree with them don't like the game, thats his demographic. We cater to more sensible gamer demographic (hence the type of games that we have developed over twenty years) who don't put their buying decisions in the hands of someone else.

Some - like Irishoak here - will want to take bad reviews to attack us and the game as well as to promote their trolling and flamebait behavior. Go ahead and see what happens.

Anyway, this thread has gone South far enough. Its only here to list reviews of the game, not debate the merits of same.

Rumtruffle

09-01-2009, 08:13 AM

If you are looking to use this thread as an opportunity to continue your trolling and flaming (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=941492&page=3)

that link is wrong. it points back to the question you're answering.

dsmart

09-01-2009, 08:23 AM

Fixed it now.

Rumtruffle

09-01-2009, 09:33 AM

Fixed it now.

*rasp* it still dinnae work capn.

dsmart

09-01-2009, 09:47 AM

Works fine here. Click on my link, not the incorrect one that you excerpted.

Rumtruffle

09-01-2009, 09:58 AM

Works fine here. Click on my link, not the incorrect one that you excerpted.

thats what i tried.

this link from your post, not the one i quoted.
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/search.php?searchid=3628295

says 'Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms.'

dsmart

09-01-2009, 10:01 AM

Works fine here. Check your browser. Its basically a link to all posts by IrishOak

Rumtruffle

09-01-2009, 10:07 AM

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/search.php?searchid=3628775

thats the correct search link for irishoaks past posts.

i didnt delve back through all the pages of what hes posted but i couldnt see anything relating to trolling this game.

dsmart

09-01-2009, 10:09 AM

That link resolves to a blank page.

Rumtruffle

09-01-2009, 10:11 AM

That link resolves to a blank page.

lol.
must be a regional thing.

dsmart

09-01-2009, 10:26 AM

Yah, probably.

Hi2u! Tw1TcH

09-01-2009, 10:43 AM

Reviews (books, tv, movies, games, whatever) are based on someone's personal opinions and not meant to be any sort of endorsement whatsoever.

I am of the opinion that most big time game publications tend to cater to the largest market they can. Meaning they will give a game a good or bad score if they believe thats what most of their current readers will want to see.

It is exceptionally difficult to gauge some games based on scores. I agree it is more viable that you can gain tidbits of useful information from the reviews, then you should play the demos, watch gameplay footage, and decide for yourself.

dsmart

09-01-2009, 11:00 AM

I am of the opinion that most big time game publications tend to cater to the largest market they can. Meaning they will give a game a good or bad score if they believe thats what most of their current readers will want to see.

It is exceptionally difficult to gauge some games based on scores. I agree it is more viable that you can gain tidbits of useful information from the reviews, then you should play the demos, watch gameplay footage, and decide for yourself.

Indeed.

The reason we're not even concerned about reviews (esp. from GameStop) is that we're used to this. We realize that there are those who - for some reason - still rely on them. But as you stated, they do serve as a starting point.

e.g. you can compare the two reviews thus far and ask yourself if they were actually playing the same game. It all comes down to preference, perception and approach.

By the same token, if two people are playing the game differently, right there you get to see how "approach" is everything. e.g. I don't see eye to eye with Rumtruffle, but after viewing one of the movies I just uploaded, go take a look at his response.

Approach is everything and sadly this is where I failed on my part because as the developer and designer, it is hard for me to see things from someone else's perspective most of the time. And thats primarily because I design games that I'd like to play and hope that other like minded gamers like it as well. So when I get to show how the game is meant to be played, you clearly see just how off some people are. This has been one of issues why over the years opinions of our games have been so polarized in that you either get them or you don't. And those who don't, tend to go off the deep end.

This is simply not a run and gun game. Never was.

I could spend all day taking the GameSpot "review" apart, but why bother? Especially when you consider that I have a pretty bad relationship with them over the years. While some many cry foul and say that doesn't matter, you'd be surprised (I have lots of friends in the industry and media) just how much it matters what your relationship with a reviewer or publication is when it comes time to review your game. e.g. the game is not terrible. Not by any stretch, but according to the GameStop's scale, thats what he thinks. And thats where those who played the demo and/or the game amd like it will tend to think about that reviewer when its time for their next game purchase. Credibility goes a long way and GameSpot - for one - lost that a long time ago when it ceased to be relevant.

This is yet another fine example of why gamers don't generally place too much stock in game reviews. Gamers are savvy these days, so reviews are just what they are: someone's personal opinion.

@ IrishOak

I have deleted yet another of your posts. If you make any more personal attacks, I'll escalate the complaint and my guess is that you will end up being banned because your posting history speaks for itself.

linfosoma

09-01-2009, 11:50 AM

What I find strange about gamespot is that they tend to give low scores to hard games. I never thought that being challeging was the same as being bad, some of my favorite games got slashed because of that and they are not that hard.

Well, it's not like I care about what they think anyway, after the whole Jeff Gertsmann scandal it's hard to take them seriously.

Good luck with the nxt review ;)

Freyar

09-01-2009, 02:14 PM

Gamespot used to be a place I used to subscribe to, there were a few "fair" reviewers I followed quite heavily. Kevin VanOrd, and Jeff Gertsmann are the two I watched quite frequently. Linfosoma's observation seems to be correct and during the time I was there I did find out that while the reviews and scores were pretty good by those two, I didn't agree with them 100%. Reviews for BCM, BCMG, and UC weren't very high, in fact they were pretty low but I fell in love with 'em anyway because they are great simulations.

Reviews are opinions, and that's it. Not always right, not always wrong.

.n£º.§ty|e$

09-01-2009, 03:56 PM

Actually, I was under the impression that many gamers take reviews under consideration when deciding not to buy a game. Most gamers value reviews because they are reflections of the full game. They point out strengths and weaknesses (basically the two most important parts of any game) and allow gamers to decide whether they are willing to overlook those flaws.

IgnoreThisPlox

09-01-2009, 03:58 PM

dsmart

09-01-2009, 04:24 PM

All points taken. But as I mentioned earlier, this thread is not for the debate of the merits of reviews. Take it elsewhere plz.

Jigoku

09-01-2009, 04:44 PM

(FYI, search links with a searchid=xxxxxxx in the link expire after a period of time, which is why neither of you are able to view each others search results.)

dsmart

09-06-2009, 04:24 AM

I have added the link to the Adrenaline Vault review to the first post.

lobski

09-06-2009, 04:41 AM

Derek, I really want to purchase AAW, but at the full price, it's too much for me. I want to experience what the full game is like. Are you guys planning a price drop anytime soon?

Regards

dsmart

09-06-2009, 04:54 AM

Try the demo first if you haven't already done so. It is a full featured demo and you won't be missing anything other than the final campaign, Instant Action scenarios and some features which won't affect your buying decision either way.

Also watch the tutorial movies I have thus far released.

You can also read the changelog (http://downloads.3000ad.com/aaw_changelog.txt) which shows you what is different between the demo v1.00.21, the current release v1.00.26 and the upcoming patch (slightly delayed due to some fixes we're still working on).

We're not thinking of doing a price drop yet. We always price drop our products after a while, but given that the season is approaching, we may do that sooner rather than later. Probably after the MW2 November Blitz :D

I don't even know by how much we would reduce it and which would make a difference to you. So why not try the demo first, then let me know what you think the full game would be worth to you?

.n£º.§ty|e$

09-06-2009, 12:07 PM

What '"intriguing story" was avault referring to? I played the demo and there wasn't the slightest hint of a narrative. :/

dsmart

09-06-2009, 12:23 PM

What '"intriguing story" was avault referring to? I played the demo and there wasn't the slightest hint of a narrative. :/

Where does the demo include a story mode campaign? Stop fishing.

Cobalty2004

09-06-2009, 06:18 PM

I like the avault review

dsmart

09-07-2009, 04:08 AM

Not entirely sure how he came up with a 53 page manual. The manual is only 41 pages, 30 if you don't count the appendix.

And I'm guessing that he hasn't played ArmaII "its learning curve one of the steepest I’ve seen in any game"

prkprkprk

09-28-2009, 06:29 PM

lol looks like I'll pass. sorry 3000 AD. maybe next time....?

DennyMala

09-29-2009, 12:03 AM

lol looks like I'll pass. sorry 3000 AD. maybe next time....?

Probably not, since this is the kind of games you can expect from 3000AD. Seems like is not your taste.

RT_

09-29-2009, 11:12 PM

Some people still didn't take it that whenever they cry censorship, they'll get it, because we're so nice and fast to give them what they're asking for. Piman post was deleted because of that, and it was just so convenient that his post was also insulting.

dsmart

09-30-2009, 03:10 AM

Since he registered to spam and troll the forums, he's made 22 posts; 15 of which were deleted. Yet he keeps doing it. At some point, like the others, he's going to get banned.

dsmart

10-01-2009, 07:59 AM

Inc Gamers have their review (http://www.incgamers.com/Reviews/967/All-Aspect-Warfare-Review-PC) up.

IgnoreThisPlox

10-01-2009, 04:00 PM

PC GAMER UK - 59/100

If you can play it without yearning for "PlanetSide" or "ArmA 2", you're a better/weirder man than I. [Nov 2009, p.100]

dsmart

10-01-2009, 04:08 PM

Yah, I saw that heh.

Do you have a print copy of the mag, because Metacritic is showing a score of 52 instead of 59.

RT_

10-03-2009, 01:33 AM

What was insulting about it? Not that it would have mattered. Please point out what wasn't true about it?

Don't get carried away, I'm not going to waste time arguing with you. However, next time you come and call the game (and all the games made by 3000AD) buggy, please point out FACTS.
Are there bugs? Sure there must be some, are there more bugs than in most games, which would 'let' you call it buggy? Sure not. And any bug reported in this forum was DEALT WITH (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=942814). You can also check the changelog (http://downloads.3000ad.com/aaw_changelog.txt)for the public version.

Now if you found what you think is a bug, and can reproduce it, by all means report it. And before you go on with the paranoid crap, no, we don't delete bug reports.
I also find it funny that people "crying" censorship get censored. Too funny, way to prove my point.

This board is a shame.
We mods need our share of deleting stuff and beating down people, you should know that.

Shock_wave

10-03-2009, 05:16 AM

It was 52/100 not 59, having played the demo i have to agree with gamespot and Adrenaline Vault, game has so many issues its just wow..

dsmart

10-03-2009, 05:57 AM

It was 52/100 not 59, having played the demo i have to agree with gamespot and Adrenaline Vault, game has so many issues its just wow..

It only has "issues" for those who :

a) don't know how to play it

b) don't have the patience to play it

Reviews are subjective opinions, so while one person "gets it", another might not.

And the Avault review doesn't say anything that the others (GameSpot didn't do a review) didn't already say in terms of the game's difficulty and such. But of course you would seek to agree with those two reviews because a) you don't get it b) you're not the game's target audience.

Nevetheless, I thought the Avault review was well written and objective.

If you don't like the game, thats OK, move on.