Monthly Fee Requirement

[rpm714]

This game looked very good to me and then I realized they charge 15 USD PER month! 180 per year! Sorry but I'll stick with Fallout 3 and I bet many other people will to. This is what happens when you rip people off.

DONT BUY THIS GAME!!!

[Kane Hart]

This game has nothing to do with fallout and is a MMORPG where you play with other players.. wow this is sad reported.

[enablerbr]

like Kane Hart said it's a MMORPG. so paying a monthly subscription is the norm and has been for a few years now with the odd exception.

[rpm714]

Reported for what ? According to the things you had posted earlier you never even played fallout 3. Its similar to fallout 3 because it takes place after a major disaster and also is a FPS. The difference is that it is online.

Its sad that you don't use facts to report me.

[Homemaster]

Delete this thread for stupidity.

[Kane Hart]

lmao this game is no where near fallout 3. Maybe FO1 or 2 are closer ideas but the game is a lot different we don't have aliens and whatever crap they got bored and decided to add.

[rpm714]

There are not "aliens" in it. Like I said you have not played it and therfore you are replying out of rage rather than even considering how I view this.

[Matt]

World of Warcraft has a monthly fee. There's all kinds of services outside of video games that have monthly fees. So what's the deal here?

[rpm714]

Hi Matt,

"World of Warcraft" is not on steam and this is one of the first if not the first to have to pay a monthly fee (on steam). It is uncommon for me to play a monthly fee for games. Theres not one game I pay money for on a monthly basis and frankly , I do not need the hassle nor the bureaucracy.

[Kane Hart]

your a fing ♥♥♥♥♥♥ just drop dead already...

http://store.steampowered.com/genre/Massively%20Multiplayer/

[Matt]

I suppose the game just is not for you then. But don't make it miserable for everyone else simply because you don't like the fees.

Additionally, I changed the thread title to actually reflect what's being discussed.

[Macnabit]

Reported for what ? According to the things you had posted earlier you never even played fallout 3. Its similar to fallout 3 because it takes place after a major disaster and also is a FPS. The difference is that it is online.

Its sad that you don't use facts to report me.

Your one of these people that when they play any Zombie game you just say "Its basically L4D"

Just because its Post Apocolyptic doesn't mean its Fallout 3

[warmaster670]

Hi Matt,

"World of Warcraft" is not on steam and this is one of the first if not the first to have to pay a monthly fee (on steam).
epic fail.

[Kane Hart]

Yeah Fallen Earth is far from FO3. Some people think they tried to copy FO3 yet this game been in the making for like 5-6 years....

The game is unique and only games that I can say that related it the closest would be like a swg/ao/neocron mixed into one :P

[Frow]

Hi Matt,

"World of Warcraft" is not on steam and this is one of the first if not the first to have to pay a monthly fee (on steam).

It's not even the first this month to require a monthly fee,

[Edidid]

It is an MMO, the profit margin is in the subscription.

having said that, Fallen Earth is not ready for prime time by a large margin.

It is the catch-22 of a smaller developer having to balance resources to development. The ideas there are solid and there is a very enjoyable concept, but the infrastructure just isn't there.

I was really hoping for great things as a dystopian/cyberpunk fan, but while the base of the game is fun the technical issues destroy the experience. Sadly this is a common trend with MMORPGs lately.

Hopefully they will be fixing the tech issues ASAP, but for now...be wary.

[slayvus]

Hi Matt,

"World of Warcraft" is not on steam and this is one of the first if not the first to have to pay a monthly fee (on steam). It is uncommon for me to play a monthly fee for games. Theres not one game I pay money for on a monthly basis and frankly , I do not need the hassle nor the bureaucracy.

From the this list (http://store.steampowered.com/genre/Massively%20Multiplayer/).

Champions Online is Pay to Play
CrimeCraft is Pay to Play
City of Heroes is Pay to Play
Lineage I and II are Pay to Play
Eve Online is Pay to Play
Vanguard is Pay to Play
Pirates of the Burning Sea is Pay to Play
Everquest I and II are Pay to Play
Warhammer Online is Pay to Play
Age of Conan is Pay to Play
Global Agenda is Pay to Play

All of these games were released on Steam BEFORE Fallen Earth.

There are only two games(that I am aware of that are) on Steam that are free to play.

Aion(?)
and
GuildWars

[Dathmar]

From the this list (http://store.steampowered.com/genre/Massively%20Multiplayer/).


There are only two games(that I am aware of that are) on Steam that are free to play.

Aion(?)
and
GuildWars

Aion has a monthly subs as well (as long as NC Soft keep the servers running ! - See Auto Assault and Tabula Rasa)

Personally I don't mind paying the monthly fee...but I have played Fallen Earth from early closed beta to open beta and I personally think the game is okay...but not great.
Don't mind paying the $15 per month but $50 / £30 is far too much for this game.
The client (game software) shouldn't be any more that $20 / £15
...and if they close the servers down in 6 months that's $50 down the drain as you cannot play the game anymore.

[slayvus]

I have Fallen Earth, I was in the Open Beta for about 5 days, but loved the game on the first day.

I pre-ordered it when I had enough money to.

[Rabin]

I have no problem paying a monthly fee for a decent MMO. I've subbed to plenty of them in the past and the fee is no big deal as long as you're having fun.

Once you stop having fun, cancel the sub - easy :)

[enablerbr]

jonnynite well those subscriptions fees go on bandwidth/servers/ etc.

[necrox48]

Yes you have to pay for the game, and yes you also have to pay a monthly subscription. What people like that fail to realize is that it cost money to run and maintain servers and pay developers and staff to keep the game running smoothly. Without those monthly fees there's no way a MMO could last.

[Gizza85]

As for me, I'm not going to buy it, but if anyone thinks it's worth 2 to 3 hundred bucks a year, go for it. You're either not worried about bills or living off your parents still.

Well it depends. $15/mo works out the be the equivalent of about about a new game every 4 months (or every 6 months here in Australia). So if it's a replacement for buying new games (as MMOs usually are) then you're actually saving money. Even really good games are lucky to last 4-6 months.

[slayvus]

Well it depends. $15/mo works out the be the equivalent of about about a new game every 4 months (or every 6 months here in Australia). So if it's a replacement for buying new games (as MMOs usually are) then you're actually saving money. Even really good games are lucky to last 4-6 months.

Most MMOs also have discounts for subscribing for more then 3 months.

$15 a month on a month to month basis.

$14 a month on a quarterly billing method.

$13 a month on a semi-annual billing method.

$12 a month on a annual billing method.

This is usually for most MMOs, Eve Online is like $1 less for each except month to month.

[cid crispy]

$50 and not even an option to play offline. At this price I should have something I can play and then buy into the online subscription later if I'm still into it. It's like buying your favorite TV series on DVD but having an additional fee for each episode you watch. Your not buying a game, your buy software to access the game.

[warmaster670]

$50 and not even an option to play offline. At this price I should have something I can play and then buy into the online subscription later if I'm still into it. It's like buying your favorite TV series on DVD but having an additional fee for each episode you watch. Your not buying a game, your buy software to access the game.
its the same with any game, you dont own teh game, you own a license to access the game, and no, there shouldnt be an offline mode, this is an mmo, this is how mmos work, if you dont like it go play something else.

[cid crispy]

I will. I would have bought it looks great though. have fun.

[Kane Hart]

Fallen Earth 15 bucks a month gets you.

- Online FPS MMORPG
- Real Gms that talk to you in person
- a great community that is not all childish like WoW.
- Lots of big content updates and changes
- and Much Much more.

[enablerbr]

Kane Hart my only ♥♥♥♥le with it. is that there is no euro server. the Fallen website forums seem to be of mixed views on if it's a problem or not.

[Kane Hart]

well you never also see the good posts. People only post to whine don't forget ;) in game there is no mixed views.

[Snootle]

This game looked very good to me and then I realized they charge 15 USD PER month! 180 per year! Sorry but I'll stick with Fallout 3 and I bet many other people will to. This is what happens when you rip people off.

DONT BUY THIS GAME!!!

Oh wow thanks! I was just looking at this game on Steam but didn't see that part :p. Lucky I thought about checking the forums before I went ahead to buy it. Well, this is so strange - I'll stick with Fallout 3 as well. Ah well.

Fallen Earth 15 bucks a month gets you.

- Online FPS MMORPG
- Real Gms that talk to you in person
- a great community that is not all childish like WoW.
- Lots of big content updates and changes
- and Much Much more.

I get all that with TF2. and I only had to pay like $20 once for that.

Apart from "Gm's" I don't know what that is.

What a rip off, very strange of Steam.

Anywho, cya guys later.

[Kane Hart]

TF2 has 10,000 players on 1 server at one time.. and does it free??? No one else runs the server they run it them selves?

♥♥♥♥ hook me up/

[FooIsm]

Wow... the brains of some people... amazing.

[Tre_Selor]

fun game beta'd it , very interesting, big change in mmo's have to craft everything, handguns, armor, weapons, it is just amazing, so many quests and the graphics are pretty damn good too. http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs162.snc1/6054_1187037678768_1313092090_30486829_505966_n.jp g
Not too mention it is played with the right and left mouse clicks for what weapon is in your left or right hand. (which i've never seen in any MMO before). Once on horseback you are instantly taken to a deep recess memory of watching High-Plains Drifter, or Mad Max as a child.

[warmaster670]

Apart from "Gm's" I don't know what that is.

What a rip off, very strange of Steam.


Uh, nothing to do with steam buddy, not to mention theres been subscription games ons team for at least 6 months.

[PhifeDawg]

I love how people freak out when theres a fee involved. Hell I pay more then 15$ every other day just to fill my car with gasoline that eventually gets wasted just hauling my ♥♥♥ around, let alone a videogame that lets you play with thousands of other people at once.:cool:

Plus this game is badass, definately reminds me of how Galaxies used to be.

[Zamav]

I don't know which one is more funny, the ignorance from some posters about MMORPG's, or the fanboys that gets their feelings hurt by that and start shouting insults :)

Sweet :D /popcorn.

Anyways, take a look at this; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massively_multiplayer_online_role-playing_game and stop comparing it to other genre's. Its like comparing Starcraft to Battlefield 2142.

Edit: Since when Fan _ boy is a filtered word? fanboy fan boy (iteration of the same)

[thebigfreak]

TF2 has 10,000 players on 1 server at one time.. and does it free??? No one else runs the server they run it them selves?

♥♥♥♥ hook me up/

Have to say i have never played TF2 with 10,000 people on one server, think some one may be a bit mixed up. As for the monthly fee for fallen earth, the store page has it in nice orange writting that this game has a monthly fee.

[Evil Kerek]

Fallen Earth 15 bucks a month gets you.

- Online FPS MMORPG
- Real Gms that talk to you in person
- a great community that is not all childish like WoW.
- Lots of big content updates and changes
- and Much Much more.

heh..the game isn't live yet...you have no idea how the community is going to be. But I doubt it will pull in the wow crowd - and the developers probably see that as a bad thing.

Same on big content updates. You have no idea what the support will actually be.

Bit of fanboism. Or you work for them.

Past that..I just didn't find that the game brought anything all that new. Ok dual wield. It doesn't FEEL like a FPS (like say Planetside) It's not a bad game - but it's not a great game.

[slayvus]

heh..the game isn't live yet...you have no idea how the community is going to be. But I doubt it will pull in the wow crowd - and the developers probably see that as a bad thing.

Same on big content updates. You have no idea what the support will actually be.

Bit of fanboism. Or you work for them.

Past that..I just didn't find that the game brought anything all that new. Ok dual wield. It doesn't FEEL like a FPS (like say Planetside) It's not a bad game - but it's not a great game.

The game is technically live already since all you have to do to play it in early access is by it from Fallen Earth LLC., Direct 2 Drive or Steam.

This game is NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT meant to attract WoW players.

They have already PROMISED new content every three to four months. Which includes new sectors which will increase the level cap 15 levels each sector.

This game is a NICHE community if you don't like the game shut up and don't talk about it. We are NOT keeping you attached to it or forcing you to play it. If you don't like it, even if you haven't played it, please quit trolling these forums and/or the Fallen Earth forums.

[nizzie]

This game looked very good to me and then I realized they charge 15 USD PER month! 180 per year! Sorry but I'll stick with Fallout 3 and I bet many other people will to. This is what happens when you rip people off.

DONT BUY THIS GAME!!!

This is probably the dumbest post I've ever seen here.

[Zoinks]

Classic troll, gets everything stirred up and then disappears.

[einexile]

Why are you guys trying to convince these people that the monthly fee is alright? Do you really want to win them over and have them there on the server with you? Bad enough to share a forum with them.

[wtfpwnd?]

What a rip off, very strange of Steam.

Anywho, cya guys later.

Steam isn't a company, it's a program that allows game developers to deliver their games digitally. Valve offer this service and we benefit from the vast amount of games available to download at awesome speeds, including MMO's (most of which are Pay to Play.)

As for the monthly fee, it's not much more than ordering a take-away.

[micahjames]

This game looked very good to me and then I realized they charge 15 USD PER month! 180 per year! Sorry but I'll stick with Fallout 3 and I bet many other people will to. This is what happens when you rip people off.

DONT BUY THIS GAME!!!

Wow, that truly is the dumbest post I have ever seen. Steam has had numerous mmorpg's on here that you pay to play. This guy is freaking ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ or very young and doesn't understand anything yet. Also, whichever idiot mentioned you play for free on TF2 servers, etc is also a stupid dumbass. YES, you can host your own dedicated server and chew up your own bandwidth(KEEP IN MIND YOU'RE PAYING FOR BANDWIDTH) but 90% of TF2 servers are hosted by a game server hosting company such as GameServers. And guess what? They are NOT free. A group of people(clan) or a single person has to pay for them so you can go on and play on their server for FREE.

Do you seriously think that companies host 1000's of servers and just let whoever jump on them for FREE? DUMBASS.

GUILD WARS is an exception to this. Guild Wars was an mmorpg that had everything instanced thus making a very LIGHT server load and therefore could get away with no monthly fee. Also, it has very LIMITED content compared to games such as WoW, EQ, EQ2, WAR, AOC, etc, etc. Also, please note that the Guild Wars's expansions cost $50 a pop and when you realize that if you bought every one of those new it would have costs $150(or 10 months of a sub fee??). Also realize that for $150 you get the PRETEND mmorpg experience that Guild Wars provides compared to the REAL mmorpg experience that the others provide. I encourage you to seriously play Guild Wars for a month and then play a REAL mmorpg for a month and tell me if you notice a difference. ♥♥♥♥ING MORON.

ALSO, if you start talking about crappy asian MMORPG's (Maple Story, etc etc) realize these are add supported or have micro-transactions and are loaded with pre-teen idiots.

So the point of all this?? NO ♥♥♥♥ING REAL MMORPG IS FREE.

[JKflipflop]

I personally hate paying a monthly fee for any game and so I have avoided all MMO games regardless of how fun they seem. I just find it kind of lame to pay for a game and THEN pay to play it (and yes i realize the first month is free). If the game was just free instead and then you paid to play I might consider it. Obviously if people like the game they will be addicted and play it enough that it would more than pay for the game. Also the company would make way more money in the long run because they'd OBVIOUSLY get more customers. STEAM on the other hand might not be able to make anything off it in that situation. As for me, I'm not going to buy it, but if anyone thinks it's worth 2 to 3 hundred bucks a year, go for it. You're either not worried about bills or living off your parents still.
I also don't have the time to play enough that I would get my money's worth (in my opinion).
Global Agenda seems like it might change my mind though. It looks like a lot more is going into it.

People with that lame arguement need to understand that gigantic servers with a dedicated support staff and massive amounts of bandwidth costs alot of money. THAT is why there is a monthly fee. The developer isn't doing it for the sole purpose of making a profit.

And for the record I do have my own bills, but I make enough money to be able to afford fun little things like an MMO. If $15 a month is an issue for you, I suggest you get a better career - or start putting in the OT @ BK LOL.

[micahjames]

Oh yeah, also remember this game does include the first month for free. With that in mind if you bought this game and wanted to play your new game like crazy keep in mind that you can't "beat" an mmo. So, if you played religiously for an entire month(like 8rs a day) you would log in 240hrs. Have you played FO3 for 240hrs yet WITHOUT beating it??? I know it took me 30 hrs and maybe an extra 50 to do side missions, etc. Than I had to pay ADDITIONAL money for 5 hrs or 10 hrs DLC. Oh yeah, keep in mind that's 240hrs on 1 character. And yes, you'd have to make multiple characters in FO3 to even come close to this!

[Deviate]

Good gods people, will you let this thread die? The dumbest posts in this thread are the ones calling the OP a dumbass, when he was the troll who managed to get every one of you dimwits to nerdrage over his post.

Just let it die...

[c3rebraL]

Some of these people act like they've never heard of a MMO before. You pay for the game's updates (content, gear, skills, equipment), maintenance, support, data storage (like you pay for a web or game server host)

It's been a pretty normal thing for a very long time.

[Snootle]

ES, you can host your own dedicated server and chew up your own bandwidth

lol i pay $69 a month for my internet and i get unlimited bandwidth so i dont gotta worry about hosting servers using my bandwidth lol owned so yah can host for free

[JKflipflop]

lol i pay $69 a month for my internet and i get unlimited bandwidth so i dont gotta worry about hosting servers using my bandwidth lol owned so yah can host for free

Wow, you are clueless.

[c3rebraL]

Wow, you are clueless.

Amen to that.

[Snootle]

Wow, you are clueless.

nop u r ive been hosting a server 24/7 for like 6 months only gotta pay the normal $69 a month

OWNEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[Cronjob]

This game looked very good to me and then I realized they charge 15 USD PER month! 180 per year! Sorry but I'll stick with Fallout 3 and I bet many other people will to. This is what happens when you rip people off.

DONT BUY THIS GAME!!!

Wait, an MMO that charges a monthly subscription, you say?! Why, I don't believe it!

Oh - and it's not $180/yr. It's $144/yr.

[GhettoLevis]

nop u r ive been hosting a server 24/7 for like 6 months only gotta pay the normal $69 a month

OWNEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

First of all, claiming to have owned someone, when you're clearly not even able to express yourself in a somewhat civilized manner is quite, let's say, preposterous.

So, you pay $70 per month for unlimited bandwidth. Good for you. I do invite you though, to go and ask your provider if it would be alright with him if you'd start hosting a game for thousands of players simultaneously.

I'm sure your server can handle that. Oh, you might want to look into this, though: http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/41586/World-of-WarCraft-Costs-200-Million-to-Maintain

[Mauro Rosati]

This is the most stupid thread I've ever read.

[Snootle]

First of all, claiming to have owned someone, when you're clearly not even able to express yourself in a somewhat civilized manner is quite, let's say, preposterous.

So, you pay $70 per month for unlimited bandwidth. Good for you. I do invite you though, to go and ask your provider if it would be alright with him if you'd start hosting a game for thousands of players simultaneously.

I'm sure your server can handle that. Oh, you might want to look into this, though: http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/41586/World-of-WarCraft-Costs-200-Million-to-Maintain

idc about hosting a mmo lol ppl were just sayin it isnt free to host tf2 servers but i jus wanna prove them wrong which ive just done. and blizzard are super rich anyway 200 mil over a 4 year time span is nothing for em

[Circlestrafe]

First of all, claiming to have owned someone, when you're clearly not even able to express yourself in a somewhat civilized manner is quite, let's say, preposterous.

So, you pay $70 per month for unlimited bandwidth. Good for you. I do invite you though, to go and ask your provider if it would be alright with him if you'd start hosting a game for thousands of players simultaneously.

I'm sure your server can handle that. Oh, you might want to look into this, though: http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/41586/World-of-WarCraft-Costs-200-Million-to-Maintain

I believe he was responding to the TF2 server reference, not hosting MMORPG servers. This whole thread is ridiculous. Like it, pay it. Don't like it, don't pay it. End of discussion.

[TopGunSF]

Replies to troll thread: 58

I am disappoint.

[Shammah]

idc about hosting a mmo lol ppl were just sayin it isnt free to host tf2 servers but i jus wanna prove them wrong which ive just done. and blizzard are super rich anyway 200 mil over a 4 year time span is nothing for em

You pay $69 so you have unlimited bandwith so you can host TF2. That means you DO pay for hosting a TF2 server. Besides, my internet connection (which is like $30 and also has UNLIMITED BANDWITH) + buying a gameserver is still cheaper than your $69. And my speed is just fine.

LOL PWNED

You're being ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ or you're just trolling. I hope for you it's 100% column B. I don't even know why I respond to this stupidity. I'm outta here :p

[StakeX]

There are not "aliens" in it. Like I said you have not played it and therfore you are replying out of rage rather than even considering how I view this.

Actually Fallout 3 DOES have aliens in it. You seem to love the game so much, yet know so little about it. Theres a crashed alien space craft, alien weapon, alien corpse, alien power cells, and every once in a great while an exploding alien space craft overhead that drops a weapon and power cells.

I guess you also don't like to buy DLC either? Like Mothership Zeta, which actually takes place on an alien space craft... so yes, there ARE "aliens in it"

EDIT: After being a beta tested for FE for nearly 8 months I decided not to buy the game, at least not right away. Its a great game, and well worth $15 a month... just needed a little break from it. The kinda bad animations get to you after a while.

[Cronjob]

What the hell is it with some of you people? Have you never played an MMO before? It's 2009. Not 1995. This is nothing new and $15/mo (with discounts for longer subscriptions) has been standard for most of the decade. The price hasn't even gone up, despite inflation over all that time.

I can understand complaints about paying for the client when most of us are probably downloading it digitally, which means none of the related distribution expenses. That does kind of suck and should change in the MMO world, finally. But monthly subscription? You're whining about $15/mo in 2009 for something you'll probably play at least 30 hours a month of?

I mean, seriously, what cheaper entertainment is there? And again, this is nothing new. This is how it has been since the dawn of the modern MMO.

[Snootle]

You pay $69 so you have unlimited bandwith so you can host TF2. That means you DO pay for hosting a TF2 server. Besides, my internet connection (which is like $30 and also has UNLIMITED BANDWITH) + buying a gameserver is still cheaper than your $69. And my speed is just fine.

LOL PWNED

You're being ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ or you're just trolling. I hope for you it's 100% column B. I don't even know why I respond to this stupidity. I'm outta here :p


i pay $69 a month for internet. the unlimited bandwidth just comes wit it so rly im paying nothing for hosting tf2 servers coz i just pay $69 a month for internet whether or not i do anything like that

(fibre optic ftw )

so lulz u phailed aggen LULZ

[plexxity]

Im glad theres a $15 charge per month, gets rid of the 12 year old scrubs for 1. and for 2 supports the developers. they have released 5 patches in like a 3 week time period thats insane! im more than happy to keep supporting them if they keep that up.

[Pharlan]

Lol, gotta love the new folks. MMO's have been charging for a while now and this particular audience isn't new to it. Persistent worlds take money to run and maintain and they will get you to pay one way or another. Fallout is a great game, but once your done your done, the dlc help, but you pay for them anyway and they only add hours to the overall enjoyment.

Most games are finished after 60 hours of play. MMO's fans usually play that much in a few weeks and again the next month. $15 a month for a game that you may be playing a year or two in the future isn't that costly, compared to new games every month to feed your need. Please look into the topic before telling everyone to "Not buy it".

[micahjames]

i pay $69 a month for internet. the unlimited bandwidth just comes wit it so rly im paying nothing for hosting tf2 servers coz i just pay $69 a month for internet whether or not i do anything like that

(fibre optic ftw )

so lulz u phailed aggen LULZ


Ok since you host your own TF2 server, and have at a MAX 20mb upload, than do me a favor. Turn on your PS3, 360, Netflix, Talk on your Vonage, Have your wife and kids playing games on your ps3 and 360 and your wife's pc and tell me if you can host 32 players without an increase in ping? TELL ME if your ♥♥♥♥ing home server would perform as well?? Yeah, OWNED. Oh yeah, and also ftp/upload some files at the same time. And tell me AGAIN if your server and even upload enough info to host your 32 players. Than do me a favor please, and host 5 TF2 servers in your house. Pretty please??? All for the low price of $70 a month, please do it! :) Oh yeah, and maintain 90+% up time pretty plz?

[necrox48]

you do know u get a better discount the more you pay in advance..

Available Subscription Plans
Below is a list of available subscription plans you may wish to consider.

$14.99/Fallen Earth Monthly

Fallen Earth Quarterly
A quarterly (3-month) subscription to play Fallen Earth.
$41.99/3 months

Fallen Earth Semi-Annual
A semi-annual (6-month) subscription to play Fallen Earth.
$77.99/6 months

Fallen Earth Annual
An annual (1 year) subscription to play Fallen Earth. Our best value!
$143.99/year

The more you pay in advance, the more you save! thats $80.00 you save just buying yearly..

[slayvus]

you do know u get a better discount the more you pay in advance..

Available Subscription Plans
Below is a list of available subscription plans you may wish to consider.

$14.99/Fallen Earth Monthly

Fallen Earth Quarterly
A quarterly (3-month) subscription to play Fallen Earth.
$41.99/3 months

Fallen Earth Semi-Annual
A semi-annual (6-month) subscription to play Fallen Earth.
$77.99/6 months

Fallen Earth Annual
An annual (1 year) subscription to play Fallen Earth. Our best value!
$143.99/year

The more you pay in advance, the more you save! thats $80.00 you save just buying yearly..

Your math... not the best in the world... You only save $36 when buying yearly when compared month to month.

[Snootle]

Ok since you host your own TF2 server, and have at a MAX 20mb upload, than do me a favor. Turn on your PS3, 360, Netflix, Talk on your Vonage, Have your wife and kids playing games on your ps3 and 360 and your wife's pc and tell me if you can host 32 players without an increase in ping? TELL ME if your ♥♥♥♥ing home server would perform as well?? Yeah, OWNED. Oh yeah, and also ftp/upload some files at the same time. And tell me AGAIN if your server and even upload enough info to host your 32 players. Than do me a favor please, and host 5 TF2 servers in your house. Pretty please??? All for the low price of $70 a month, please do it! :) Oh yeah, and maintain 90+% up time pretty plz?

y? i just said hosting a tf2 server is free coz it doesnt come with any extra charge.

[Trucegore]

Reported for what ? According to the things you had posted earlier you never even played fallout 3. Its similar to fallout 3 because it takes place after a major disaster and also is a FPS. The difference is that it is online.

Its sad that you don't use facts to report me.

The only way you can compare fallen earth to fallout is if:

1. Your only point of reference for a post apocalyptic world is fallout, instead of the decades of apocalyptic writings.
2. Your thought process is shallow like apuddle of water.
3. You cant read, or did not read anything about the game.

There are many differences other than "It takes place after a bad thing". :rolleyes:

[freeyourmind775]

There are not "aliens" in it. Like I said you have not played it and therfore you are replying out of rage rather than even considering how I view this.


YOUR KIDDING RIGHT?


two words: MOTHERSHIP ZETA.




Rpm, I'm guessing you saw a post apocalyptic game, wet yourself, and started looking into buying it. This is not a regular game, it is a MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER ONLINE ROLE PLAYING GAME or MMORPG.
You buy the game, then pay to rent a spot on the server. This is nothing new to anyone in the entire world who has played an MMO before.

Don't tell people to not buy this game because you don't like MMO's.


And yes, this game is like fallout, but only in the sense fallout is like Mad Max.


I haven't bought it YET, and I can tell that it will be like fallout with the setting and enviroment, but thats because they are both post apocalyptic. NOTHING ELSE.

And don't make me go into details on fallout, because I can EASILY write for hours about it, as I've been playing fallout and it's merry band of sequels since 1997.

[rpm714]

Well another obvious reason not to buy this game is the rudeness of the community, insulting me and others who agreed with me.

And for those of you who think 180 USD is pocket change I think it’s almost laughable. You lived in developed countries your entire life (probably never struggled with money). AND notice the amount of games owned by some of the "insulters". Some have game counts over 200!

[QUOTE=freeyourmind775;11386396] YOUR KIDDING RIGHT?


two words: MOTHERSHIP ZETA.

QUOTE]

Well I guess you like google. You didn't play fallout 3 either you foolish punk.


Well from the replies I got , once again , it proves to me that the community of this game is rude , narrow-minded and foolish and is an reason beyond the 15 USD per month , not to buy this game.

[Viziroth]

I think MMO's need to sell ad space on their servers.

Then have two account types, normal accounts are free to play but you have all those ads up.(5 second ad when you first log in, and maybe ads on the sides of buildings, or rusted almost broken signs scattered along the roads.)

Premium accounts hide all the ads, and maybe let you get different color gear.

Just saying, it could potentially double the MMO player base, and the revenue generated through ads might be more than the revenue generated from subscriptions if the game is popular enough to warrant high ad costs.



I said this on another thread and someone suggested, that since it is post apocalyptic, being who pay a lot of r ad space could eventually get actual in game items, like having to scavenge ford trucks, or riding a mitsubishi motorcycles, or the ilk.




Also, I'm a HUGE fallout fan boy(wore a vault 13 jumpsuit one Halloween.) From the looks of things, other than the setting, Fallen Earth seems nothing like fallout...

Although I think the crashed alien space ship in fallout 3 was a nice bit of added flavor.. as were the aliens in fallout 2...


Also, I work part time minimum wage... I make enough money in a week to pay a year of subscription...

[Nova225]

And for those of you who think 180 USD is pocket change I think it’s almost laughable. You lived in developed countries your entire life (probably never struggled with money). AND notice the amount of games owned by some of the "insulters". Some have game counts over 200!

I guarentee you spend at least quadruple that on entertainment per year. If you can't afford 180 USD PER YEAR, then you need to find a new hobby.

[atLast]

I guarentee you spend at least quadruple that on entertainment per year. If you can't afford 180 USD PER YEAR, then you need to find a new hobby.

So true, if 180 is to much, how did you even get this far ? I for one do not belive in the concept of pay to play persay, MMo's and the like but they've been like this forever. So to cry outrage is just ... ignorant.

[rpm714]

I guarentee you spend at least quadruple that on entertainment per year. If you can't afford 180 USD PER YEAR, then you need to find a new hobby.

Why , The only amount I spent this year so far on games is about 10 USD.

The real question is if you can afford to spend that much then why do you waste your life playing games?


I had enough of the ignorance of people in this thread who waste their time formulating arguements against what I had posted in a rude outrageous way. I'm not posting anymore in this thread.

[SkullCracker]

I look at it this way and so should others. If someone wants to play a game and they charge a monthly fee so be it. Not one person in here has the right to call others names and act like kids. If this guy wants to complain let him and only if he bought the game with out knowing about the fee. Other wise who cares what he says as it's right not to buy or play it.

But one thing I have noticed about this forum as a whole a lot of bashing one another. If you don't like what others have to say act like an adult when you respond. And if your not one well practice because talking trash makes you look like fools. Plus I'm amazed the Mods on here allow this.

Anyway it's a game and if you don't like the pay to play like I don't move on. Find a game that interests you and play but. But to come on here and talk stupid about the game because you don't like it is childish.

My 2 cents

[BigGhostrider07]

I never play an mmo for more than 4 months. which is longer than non MMO games i play. so not many people will pay for a whole year. they get their taste then leave

[sheebo77]

i don't mean to troll or anything, since i am really thinking whether i should buy this game or not, but the price and the monthly fees are ones set for a LEVEL A studio, such as mythic or blizzard, 49.99 and 14.99 in fees is not reasonable for a game made by a very small scale studio and this is their first venture in the MMO market. i think even players who have bought the game and are actively subscribed would agree with me at least on that point.

[KrazyKain]

rpm714 you are perhaps the dumbest person on the internet... mmorpgs require monthly fees.. if you didnt know that... go trade your pc for a typewriter... you'll get more use out of it

i don't mean to troll or anything, since i am really thinking whether i should buy this game or not, but the price and the monthly fees are ones set for a LEVEL A studio, such as mythic or blizzard, 49.99 and 14.99 in fees is not reasonable for a game made by a very small scale studio and this is their first venture in the MMO market. i think even players who have bought the game and are actively subscribed would agree with me at least on that point.

why should a small company charge less when they put as much money or more in their product? no this game deserves every penny i put into it. so no.. i disagree

[sheebo77]

yes but the amount of capital invested is not the same as the amount invested by the studios that i have mentioned......so why charge the same as the big boys when you didn't spend as much as the big boys?

the big studio justify these amounts by saying we have 200 employees who worked on this title and we invested 30 million dollars into this project.......how can Icarus studios justify this?

Krazykain you claim that "Icarus studios put as much money or more" into their product what is your basis for this??

[Moeceefus]

they made the game. they can charge whatever they want for it, regardless of how much they spent making it. if you dont feel its worth it to you, dont buy it.

[KrazyKain]

yes but the amount of capital invested is not the same as the amount invested by the studios that i have mentioned......so why charge the same as the big boys when you didn't spend as much as the big boys?

the big studio justify these amounts by saying we have 200 employees who worked on this title and we invested 30 million dollars into this project.......how can Icarus studios justify this?

Krazykain you claim that "Icarus studios put as much money or more" into their product what is your basis for this??

they are running servers just like everyone else, they have programmers to pay, just like everyone else, they have graphics designers, and marketers and whatever else..

[masterjokin]

its a sad thing that one persons dislike of something so trivial has spawned so much hate and disgust. life's a layer cake, let him have his layer, stick to yours, is opinion doesn't effect much in the grand scheme of things.

but what you could say to him, and should have without all this anger, is. there will be a fallout mmo in a few years. will he be ripped off when they charge him 15$ a month for access? he wont feel that way then. its just anouther comment based on his view of the world. it doesn't need to be correct, or nice.

the game, has a huge amount of work if it wants to add up. so you can support them or don't. but really, if you don't like a product, you should stay away, or try to be creative and offer advice and all that and what not. in the end, this is worse then some high school kids twitter page, or worst... blog.

me? i at least gave the game a try, and i'm not running around telling people what to do with there money. and btw.. its not like fallout 3. mutations are because of a virus, and there was limited nukage dropped around.

in the end, he was just trolling. he hates gamers for wasting there life, why he thinks that is something he only knows. yes, ultimately you gain nothing. but really, lots of other people do stuff with there life, and they die, or loose the money. and in the end there ultimately gaining nothing.

but next time we all see a post like this.. don't feed the trolls, instead, i leave you with this quote to remember..

"i was walking a path in my life, and i looked off to the side once, and i saw the funniest thing.. some idiot was off in the dirt doing donuts."

[KrazyKain]

its a sad thing that one persons dislike of something so trivial has spawned so much hate and disgust. life's a layer cake, let him have his layer, stick to yours, is opinion doesn't effect much in the grand scheme of things.

but what you could say to him, and should have without all this anger, is. there will be a fallout mmo in a few years. will he be ripped off when they charge him 15$ a month for access? he wont feel that way then. its just anouther comment based on his view of the world. it doesn't need to be correct, or nice.

the game, has a huge amount of work if it wants to add up. so you can support them or don't. but really, if you don't like a product, you should stay away, or try to be creative and offer advice and all that and what not. in the end, this is worse then some high school kids twitter page, or worst... blog.

me? i at least gave the game a try, and i'm not running around telling people what to do with there money. and btw.. its not like fallout 3. mutations are because of a virus, and there was limited nukage dropped around.

in the end, he was just trolling. he hates gamers for wasting there life, why he thinks that is something he only knows. yes, ultimately you gain nothing. but really, lots of other people do stuff with there life, and they die, or loose the money. and in the end there ultimately gaining nothing.

but next time we all see a post like this.. don't feed the trolls, instead, i leave you with this quote to remember..

"i was walking a path in my life, and i looked off to the side once, and i saw the funniest thing.. some idiot was off in the dirt doing donuts."

lol how very philosophical of you.

[Daemon785]

Why , The only amount I spent this year so far on games is about 10 USD.

The real question is if you can afford to spend that much then why do you waste your life playing games?


I had enough of the ignorance of people in this thread who waste their time formulating arguements against what I had posted in a rude outrageous way. I'm not posting anymore in this thread.

Isn't this what is known as "rage quitting" lol. Dont get others to see it your way or do what you want, so throw a tantrum and leave. Anywho, I love the game, its not WoW (which is good) and 15 a month is completely doable, spend more than that at fast foods im sure. If people think its too much, dont play, we're not twisting your arm. No need to come on here and say we're stupid just because you cant afford 15 a month.

10 USD this year only? I really do pity him.

[TF2-Fan01]

It's pretty funny how 15 bucks seems to be the universal monthly fee for any mmo. It doesn't matter if it has less than a thousand players or millions, it's always 15 bucks. Maybe some company out there in the future will have the balls to actually charge less per month.

PS: WoW sucks. Stupid silly game.

[atLast]

It's pretty funny how 15 bucks seems to be the universal monthly fee for any mmo. It doesn't matter if it has less than a thousand players or millions, it's always 15 bucks. Maybe some company out there in the future will have the balls to actually charge less per month.

PS: WoW sucks. Stupid silly game. Yeah at 15 bucks a month times 100,000 people equals 1,500,000 dollars. I have always found the argument of servers, maintance and the like hard to belive, as far as a financial justification goes.

[sheebo77]

btw for the user that said that its different than fallout 3 and that mutations are due to a "virus" (yes im talking to you MasterJokin) please tell me and inform the public how super mutants came to be in the fallout world.......yes it was A SUPER-SOLDIER VIRUS!!!! so please the next time you act all high and mighty don't say some stupid half-assed thing

[corvus]

trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls.

guys... i am disappoint.

[Sabbatai]

There are not "aliens" in it. Like I said you have not played it and therfore you are replying out of rage rather than even considering how I view this.

No Aliens in Fallout 3 huh?

I guess you haven't found everything then.

Or not downloaded the DLC that is all about the Alien mothership.

Regardless this is not "like fallout except online" in any way. The setting is similar but that would be like saying Metroid is exactly like Halo. Or Zelda is exactly like "Adventure" on Atari.

This is an MMORPG they have monthly fees and the reason is obvious to anyone who plays one.

[Gvaz]

The op is a troll. No one could be this oblivious.

Theres quite a few games on steam that are mmos and that require a sub that came out before this one.

Also this game isn't an fps, and fallout3 is as much of an fps as oblivion is.

[thegreatdijon]

I actually get more worried when I see an MMO that DOESN'T have a monthly fee. I'd rather pay money and know that it is going into the salary of somebody who is going to consistently fix my game or upgrade my playing experience than an MMO that "hopes" people are willing to spend real money to get items that will give them a tangible, not achieved, edge over other players. Art is supposed to reflect life, not stick its hands in it. Then you have your "Paid content pack" types. So.....basically, if they don't get that expansion out at the right time, they might be "hurting that quarter" fiscally in the eyes of their parent company. Not very good for the sake of the studio, or the people you rely on to make your game better. Due to this, that content pack might be pushed out without all of the things the developers wanted you to see. So just look at the other MMOs you know and ask if it is really for the best. I personally believe it is. After all, half the appeal of an MMO is ever-changing content:) I think the mod hit it on the head, if you don't like MMOs, then you just don't like them. Not every genre is for everyone. But for those of us who like crafting, post-apocalyptic settings, interacting with other players and "clans" working together, open-ended worlds and guns, Fallen Earth will do fine thank you:)

[Xiru]

I know people don't like CAD too much, but... yeah (http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20100628).

[Kensington]

Been playing this game from closed beta. I really enjoy it. Did it need more time to polish /test features? Probably. But the core concepts are solid. The graphics now upgraded are much nicer and its solid as a rock compared to the first few months. And with its current way its going I think it'll come into its own in years to come. A niche game for a niche market. But a good one.

[JfpOne23]

This is also a game that will definitely appeal more to an older crowd than the kiddies. The kiddies can't afford it and bore easily, so will drop out quickly. Besides they usually ruin the immersion factor in any games they gravitate to. Good riddance.

What we're left with is a much more wisened community going forward, and that will make FE thrive.

FE is fairly amazing, and well worth the subscription fee. I'm sure it will get much, much bigger.

[UMS]

This is also a game that will definitely appeal more to an older crowd than the kiddies. The kiddies can't afford it and bore easily, so will drop out quickly. Besides they usually ruin the immersion factor in any games they gravitate to. Good riddance.

What we're left with is a much more wisened community going forward, and that will make FE thrive.

FE is fairly amazing, and well worth the subscription fee. I'm sure it will get much, much bigger.

I disagree with half of your reasoning. FE is no more expensive than WoW, for example, and there's no shortage of "kiddies" there who can apparently "afford it" one way or the other.

But, "and bore easily" I think probably applies to FE. I'm not saying it is boring, I haven't played enough to gauge and what I've played I enjoyed, however there is a lot going on from the beginning, and the slight learning curve on top of primarily brown colors is probably going to appeal more to the people looking for that (which may very well be a "wisened community."

The OP is just either trolling or really isn't coming from the gaming community at all. Subscription games are nothing new, and the fees haven't really changed much in many years.

[scorpio0666]

Yeah it seems like the OP was blown away that any game would charge a fee. I agree with UMS he probably came from outside the typical gaming community or this is all new to him.