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Nor
09-27-2009, 12:28 AM
Well its been a while since i played a nice rpg game so ive been thinking of buying the last remnant but ive heard about this popular game but when i check gamespot review is so low but the general review is like 8.8 so i went O_O (and more than 2k votes) so anyway care to give an explanation why this game is so fun? ive seen the trailer and it doesn't look that much impressive in terms of graphics...

maturin
09-27-2009, 03:42 PM
Same reason Arma 2 got a bad score. Dumbass commercial game-journalism dissing anything indie or foreign.

Crusader508
10-01-2009, 08:07 AM
I actually found it hilarious how many of the big name reviewers gave M&B a bad score. I read official reviews of it and lots of reasons they had for dissing it was because it had lack of a story line.

Thing is, if you actually have an imagination and like to make up your own stories, this game will keep you occupied for a really, really long time.

It's sad that people from Gamespot seem to need a storyline for it to be fun for them. Hell I make up my own.

In terms of graphics, yeah it's sub par, but the game totally makes up for it. Horseback fighting, leading your own men in desperate fights in the wilderness... This game is just so cool and it disappointed me when critical reviewers chastised it because they need complete structure to have fun in videogames.

chronicdog
10-09-2009, 01:25 AM
Because they didnt pay off the company with ads like Ubi and EA

mouton
10-09-2009, 11:18 AM
I actually found it hilarious how many of the big name reviewers gave M&B a bad score. I read official reviews of it and lots of reasons they had for dissing it was because it had lack of a story line.
This is quite ironic, considering how dumb, pointless and token are the story lines of many of the most hyped games that get 9/10 marks.

zachanscom
10-09-2009, 01:11 PM
I actually found it hilarious how many of the big name reviewers gave M&B a bad score. I read official reviews of it and lots of reasons they had for dissing it was because it had lack of a story line.

Thing is, if you actually have an imagination and like to make up your own stories, this game will keep you occupied for a really, really long time.

It's sad that people from Gamespot seem to need a storyline for it to be fun for them. Hell I make up my own.

In terms of graphics, yeah it's sub par, but the game totally makes up for it. Horseback fighting, leading your own men in desperate fights in the wilderness... This game is just so cool and it disappointed me when critical reviewers chastised it because they need complete structure to have fun in videogames.

you can't make up your own storyline because there's already a background story in the game. if you had any sense, you'd have realized what the game was about. it's not about storylines or making up storylines, it's about experiencing the world of caldaria.

maturin
10-09-2009, 10:01 PM
you can't make up your own storyline because there's already a background story in the game. if you had any sense, you'd have realized what the game was about. it's not about storylines or making up storylines, it's about experiencing the world of caldaria.

Err, no.

There is a setting already in the game. I don't think I need to go into how a setting is different from a storyline.

The game is about kicking ♥♥♥ in your own special way. There isn't really that much to Calradia except some names and a platform for mayhem.

mouton
10-10-2009, 07:26 AM
A very compelling platform, i must say.

Anyway, the point was that "lack of storyline" is a stupid accusation. I remember ten years ago when multiplayer gaming was still being born, reviewers gave some games minus points for "no multiplayer!" as if multiplayer was alpha and omega.

Crusader508
10-15-2009, 02:38 PM
you can't make up your own storyline because there's already a background story in the game. if you had any sense, you'd have realized what the game was about. it's not about storylines or making up storylines, it's about experiencing the world of caldaria.

That's a very bland view of the game and I don't think that's what it was meant to be about at all.

Lol, I can't make one? Is there some secret law that makes it so when I try to be creative and make my own stories out of the game I'll be struck by lightening? And there's no background setting whatsoever. It says you're son of whoever from whatever and that's it. That, like said before, is like a setting before you play and it influences absolutely nothing.

You're basically saying that there's no story to it because that's not what it's about, it's just about "experiencing" core mechanics? That's boring. That's like saying there's no purpose whatsoever in anything about the game. Experiencing Calraldia? Buddy, have you seen the graphics? Like said they're sub-par. If experiencing the game is just pure, non-purposeful fighting, then it must be boring for you. It would be for me.

I like to think I have quite a large bit of sense in this head of mine. I just firmly believe that dumping on games because they don't constantly tell you what to do,where to go, and how to act is not necessarily always a good reason to dump on them.

Reiknar
10-15-2009, 03:48 PM
The lack of so called "stunning" graphics would be the reason I would expect most reviewers to have for giving M&B a low score. The combat mechanics might seem a little too simplistic for some. All in all, I'm quite happy with the graphics, and enjoy the combat, and the Story. Yes, story, I would have to say the story is a bit more than just setting as if it was window dressing. It's a backdrop for the conflict you find yourself in the midst of. And your choices dictate how your character, and the characters and soldiers whom you draw in along the way, interact with that backdrop. The kingdoms around you will continue to vie for power no matter your choices. Without your help, it's likely they would continue in perpetuity ;) For those who NEED direction, the game gives nudges and suggestions, in the form of quests you can pick up from village elders, merchant leaders, town and castle lords, and even the various kings. Just be careful should you choose to take a quest to round up cattle and bring them back to someone, herding cattle is no small thing >: It is the only quest I avoid at ALL costs ;)

Raoul Duke
10-18-2009, 10:13 PM
Other reviewers panned the interface and "the quests are dumb lol". I've also read some reviews that ♥♥♥♥♥ed about flat characters and generally faceless NPCs. About the worst comment I've read regarding the game would have to be something along the lines of "if this game had a story like oblivion it would be the greatest thing ever".

Of course, they all miss the point... but TaleWorlds isn't sending them a check every month so they can and will call it average.

Blindjonn
10-26-2009, 04:34 AM
It wasn't polished nearly enough, but it certainly deserved a much higher score than it got. People have the audacity to call Halo revolutionary when it innovated nothing, whereas Mount and Blade is genuinely unique and brilliant. The upcoming multiplayer expansion will tune everything up nicely and give it the finished sheen that it always deserved.

vorT1
10-26-2009, 10:43 AM
Game reviews are all bull♥♥♥♥ these days. Its a popularity contest. The more popular the game is, the higher the score it gets. The reviewers are all sell-outs.

caddux
10-28-2009, 06:50 PM
This game is awesome! I've been playint it everyday since I bought it some time ago and I'm sure I will be playing it for a long long time! I just love it so much!

And I must say that when I heard about it I looked it up in Gamespot, and the bad review, followed by the great reviews of players just got me really up to try the game.

Thats so clear that the reviews are bad because TaleWorld doesn't pay them to write good ones!

Solarian
12-29-2009, 10:49 AM
Most "professional" (which is an insult to the term professional) game reviewers are full of ♥♥♥♥.

If you want a true evaluation of a game's worth, look at the User Score on Metacritic.

Von Hammler Koq
01-01-2010, 06:37 PM
there are mods to up the graphics if its a real problem for anyone, and can be nice to just have a prettier game. I must say this game is truely one of a kind, I have tried to fill the hole it left in my gaming and nothing comes close.

Story? I can name about 20 games with amazing stories that are well realised and told, yet can name a couple of thousand that have boring and generic story lines just from the 2000's. Sadly games really lack in the story part of it all. Same old "baddies" and for the love of god crysis, WHY FREAKING ALIENS!!!! It makes no sense?!?!

But yeah, you could do far worse and spend a lot more on a rubbish game, I urge you to give this gem a go, you wont regret it (and if you do, I care not :P)

CaptainDingo
01-01-2010, 09:16 PM
Same reason Arma 2 got a bad score. Dumbass commercial game-journalism dissing anything indie or foreign.

Yeah but the Arma2 demo ran at like 2 FPS on my system on the lowest possible settings so that just reeked of "unpolished mess" (when I run much better-looking games just fine) whereas Mount & Blade is super nice. ;)

But GameSpot is like any other big review place; they don't even look at indie games, it's a wonder they actually reviewed this one at all. Everything with "Halo" or "Final Fantasy" on it is guaranteed a 9.0 from "professional" review sites regardless of how simplistic and cliche it is.

NanostrikeX
01-04-2010, 02:24 AM
To be fair, the game can be hard at times. And if nothing else, Gamespot reviewers prove time and time again that they suck at games. So put two and two together...

CanadianWolvie
01-04-2010, 03:39 PM
(sarcasm) Bad reviews? Perish the thought (/sarcasm), still doesn't change the amount of fun I had with the demo.

Lack of story? Here, let me tell a story, the only kind that really matters if a game is more that a movie that you move forward with the occasional Quick Time Event (QTE) button mashing and reflexes: Just like in the popularity of various other games, the only story that matters is the one the player tells with their character. We get to see these quite a bit with other players videos posted on the net, some choose to tell a story of great skill and other present intriguing skits of horror, drama, and comedy.

Still not convinced? I took my crazy genius character in Mount & Blade and proceeded to dismantle my opponents in tournament after tournament, building renown and wealth until one day I was sought out by the kings hoping I would be their vassal and when I finally did pick one, I spent my time protecting and improving the ♥♥♥♥ out of my Khergit village and decimating foreign massive armies hoping to loot it in scenes that reminded me of 300 by directing my men to a far corner of the battle map and making a shield wall of my meager combined forces of swadian knights and khergit vet horse archers and my character would move through the enemy to break up their formations, so when they entered my forces "bowl" they would surround and annihilate them, then the next wave, and the next after that. A army of 60 defeated about 360 with our own losses only one or two and that was in the first wave. Ended up capturing 3 lords who brought in fat ransoms which I could use to build up my growing fiefdom within the Khergit Khagnate carved from its neighboring enemies.

My apologies if I got some of the spelling incorrect.

Adam Banman
01-16-2010, 09:46 PM
They gave this game a moderate score, because thats what it deserves.

I love this game, but come on people, it is HEAVILY underdeveloped and unworthy of anything higher than a 7, even that is pushing it.

The guys at gamespot and pro reviewers, they don't play a game for a day and give it a 10 because the first level impressed them. They go in deap, and consider every feature.

This game has great combat, but that's it, no real quests, no goals, aimless, stale NPC's, ect.

DelianSK13
02-11-2010, 09:09 PM
Most "professional" (which is an insult to the term professional) game reviewers are full of ♥♥♥♥.

If you want a true evaluation of a game's worth, look at the User Score on Metacritic.

Eh. I wouldn't say that. Everyone has different views on what a game should be and play like. Look at the MW2 user rating. Last I checked (right after launch) it was at a 2.0.

I trust Metacritics professional review average rating more then user reviews.

Katzuma
02-12-2010, 12:00 AM
This game is one of the best games ive ever played. Downloaded the demo over a year ago on my old computer and kept playing until demo-lvl limit was reached and with no doubt bought the game. Its an awesome game, Big armies without being a game like totalwar and stuff, Lots of different armor and weapons, horseriding and questing. This game is worth a LOT for me. And soon the multiplayer mount & blade is released and i cant wait :D

syuzh
02-12-2010, 01:06 AM
LOL STORY LINE

MisterNZ
02-12-2010, 04:43 AM
Same reason Arma 2 got a bad score. Dumbass commercial game-journalism dissing anything indie or foreign.

+rep

That's why I ignore most popular game reviews, mainly IGN and Gamespot. They give the bad mainstream games very high scores, and weird indie games low scores.

VASH1291
02-12-2010, 06:05 AM
I would never trust what Gamespot say after the Kyne And Lynch episode.

Hakello
02-12-2010, 07:15 AM
They gave this game a moderate score, because thats what it deserves.

"What" it deserves is a point of view, however, reviewers are supposed to look at the quality of the game in terms of graphics, sound and gameplay. In terms of graphics and sound the game is rather mediocore, sure. In terms of gameplay it offers way, way more than most other games. However, as those, uhm, what did you call them? "pro reviewers" only looked at "omgwtf no quest? Whut must me do?" they gave it a much lower score than it deserves.


The guys at gamespot and pro reviewers, they don't play a game for a day and give it a 10 because the first level impressed them. They go in deap, and consider every feature.


Yeah, sure, now tell me how they are uncapable of finding flaws in popular/sponsered games? (talking to you, horribly bugged empire total war release, which, by the way, recieved 9/10)

Yachmenev
02-13-2010, 06:27 AM
Are there any good mods to enhance the character models and clothers/armours? I have no problems with the overall graphics, building models and textures, but the lack of any sense of art direction when it comes to characters really annoys me. I can barely see the difference between males/females.

Revi.uk
02-13-2010, 06:35 AM
I don't bother reading any reviews these days, I'll just look at the User metacritic score as they're the ones who have the best opinion and aren't in someones pocket.

Avallach1
02-13-2010, 07:00 AM
Yeah but the Arma2 demo ran at like 2 FPS on my system on the lowest possible settings so that just reeked of "unpolished mess" (when I run much better-looking games just fine) whereas Mount & Blade is super nice. ;)

Are we talking about ArmA2 Demo or the final product? Look it up before saying it's an "unpolished mess".

Vlas
02-13-2010, 08:23 AM
If you should take anything from this learning experience its that other peoples opinions dont mean JACK!

Demos are still important, game rating sites are nothing but hype and crap.

velvetmeds
02-13-2010, 01:18 PM
why they gave the score? cause they're entitled to their opinion. i think this game is pretty bad and will never buy it even for 10 cents. that doesn't make me anything of what you people are saying, or gamespot.

tFighterPilot
02-13-2010, 02:08 PM
why they gave the score? cause they're entitled to their opinion. i think this game is pretty bad and will never buy it even for 10 cents. that doesn't make me anything of what you people are saying, or gamespot.

It does mean you have a bad taste though.

RockPaperNinja
02-13-2010, 03:07 PM
They gave it a low score because it doesn't have the best graphics and they aren't pampered throughout the game like in alot of other games these days.

Hey, some people just don't have the taste, but then they should'nt even bother reviewing it. Anyone who buys a game from the metacritic rating is an idiot anyways.

Most reviewers come from the Halo, modern warfare 2 fan side. The guys who get paid to advertise the games. The lovers of beautiful, but overhyped and stupid games.

velvetmeds
02-13-2010, 04:16 PM
It does mean you have a bad taste though.

no, it doesn't. cause to me, anyone who likes this is crazy. are you crazy?

point taken i hope

Vlas
02-13-2010, 04:56 PM
no, it doesn't. cause to me, anyone who likes this is crazy. are you crazy?

point taken i hope

Stereotypes... they make you feel secure with yourself.

ShootForTheHead
02-13-2010, 09:43 PM
I actually found it hilarious how many of the big name reviewers gave M&B a bad score. I read official reviews of it and lots of reasons they had for dissing it was because it had lack of a story line.

Thing is, if you actually have an imagination and like to make up your own stories, this game will keep you occupied for a really, really long time.

It's sad that people from Gamespot seem to need a storyline for it to be fun for them. Hell I make up my own.

In terms of graphics, yeah it's sub par, but the game totally makes up for it. Horseback fighting, leading your own men in desperate fights in the wilderness... This game is just so cool and it disappointed me when critical reviewers chastised it because they need complete structure to have fun in videogames.

Hell yeah!

At the moment im playing Sword of Damocles, which has an overarching story, but ur still free to make it all up, even with maaaaassive kingdom management.

So begins the reign of Lord ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, may his people be oppressed and his enemies be struck down by Ctrl+shift+F4!

Gvaz
02-14-2010, 03:07 PM
I agree with the gamespot emblems

good:

soundtrack
innovative
controls

bad:

horrible first impression
no story

caddux
01-19-2011, 03:22 PM
I agree with the gamespot emblems

good:

soundtrack
innovative
controls

bad:

horrible first impression
no story

There were plenty of games that gave me a great first impression but I only played a couple of hours.

The beauty of M&B is that it has no story. You create your own.

iZach
01-20-2011, 12:31 AM
Most "professional" (which is an insult to the term professional) game reviewers are full of ♥♥♥♥.

If you want a true evaluation of a game's worth, look at the User Score on Metacritic.
This.

waggywags
01-20-2011, 02:32 AM
If gamespot was rating vanilla, perhaps, though the No Story part is bull... If you look, you can find and construct a large family tree of all the monarches and stuff.

But if you factor in mods, hell, the thing has the potential to develop enough story to make them complain Too Much Story.

Astrixzero
01-20-2011, 08:42 AM
Most "professional" (which is an insult to the term professional) game reviewers are full of ♥♥♥♥.

If you want a true evaluation of a game's worth, look at the User Score on Metacritic.

Sorry, but Metacritic user scores are just as bad. I've seen fanboys creating multiple accounts there to give games they dislike 1/10's en masse. A game's worth cannot be measured by an arbitary score IMO.

caddux
01-20-2011, 11:34 AM
I think that M&B acomplished a lot for what it is. The way it is now, it already became my favorite game of all times. But I do think that it's not everything it could be. And if it was, then I would have no life at all besides playing it. And it would be praised by the whole world!

samsaker!
01-20-2011, 12:05 PM
I dont give a dman what anyone else thinks. I love this game, I notice nothign was mentioned about the modding community and how the game can be customised to what you like. Reminds me of cs:s but in the rpg genre.

lazar
01-21-2011, 04:32 PM
Although I am myself a Turks and comments about the game while I think he deserves a little emotional act took notes.There are certain criteria for each of the magazine or web site.Editors rating in a note to the extent that the criteria are made.Turkey, two of the game magazine, gave the game 8.5/10 GPA.Cons of the game yet? Of course there have taken note that deserved its own opinion, but I can say comfortably.