Help with all these hackers

02-10-2011, 05:47 PM

I have a video of a guy in a black ops server hacking big time. This is not the first time he has been reported but Steam does not seem to want to ban him for good. We pay good money for these games and we expect your VAC to work . If you cannot provide a better environment then I would like a refund on all my games. You are basically denying me my right to play these games in a hack free environment.

You guys made so much money last year , you would think that maybe you would invest in a better anti cheat program.

crum3086 · 02-10-2011, 06:00 PM

ill say what everyone else will say.

1. you pay for the license to use the game, you dont own the game.
2. you arent going to get any refund, so empty demands like that are pointless
3. no one promised a hack free environment
4. find another server

it sucks, but just suck it up and deal with it. its just a game afterall.

PhamousVegas · 02-11-2011, 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crum3086

3. no one promised a hack free environment

I do recall Activision boasting about how both Black Ops and MW2 were supposed to be 100% cheater-free because they use VAC2.

Obviously no game is going to be cheater-free, but I do remember see multiple statements on that.
The most noted one is Infinity Ward's post about IWnet, but I do recall seeing a few about Black Ops as well.
Anyway despite all of these, the worse I've seen in Black Ops was rapid-fire users... which doesn't bother me at all.

B33 ENN · 02-10-2011, 07:42 PM

Get all the legit non-cheating players to surround his spawn point and then lob grenades at him repeatedly until he gets the message.

Jagged Tooth · 02-10-2011, 09:15 PM

First read up on how VAC actually works.

Second find a decent server with good admins.

Slayer00 · 02-11-2011, 04:56 AM

VAC doesn't accept any kind of reports or proof of cheaters, VAC is fully automated.

I don't know what the report player means in the game, but I think it sends the info to the game developer to.... Well for some reason.

EDIT: Here is a thread about report player function on the game but no one knows what it is for, just speculation, http://forums.steampowered.com/forum....php?t=1710716

EDIT2: And here is some info on VAC, have a read;
Valve Anti-Cheat: Information Thread
Valve Anti-Cheat System (VAC)
Cheaters, Abusive Admins, New Cheats, and Cheat Websites

Nekomancer · 02-11-2011, 06:23 AM

Every AC promises a cheat free environment, and in all cases, including VAC, it is a promise they can't keep. In Germany we call this a "Teufelskreis", whatever you do, the other side reacts to it and nothing really changes. There will always be cheaters and new cheats and there will always be new signature to detect new cheats. It's a never ending cycle.

LesMoore · 02-11-2011, 07:44 AM

This poster says it best as far as I am concerned:

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0ddity
Doesn't matter. It's been discussed a million times. VAC is not a cheat prevention system, it is a cheat punishment system. The thing that helps keeps VAC effective and games playable is dedicated servers with active admins.

UNeedHelp! · 02-13-2011, 08:24 AM

I still wonder what the in game report as "cheater" does. Maybe treyarch just resets their account when X number of complaints are made on 1 player.. or maybe it's just left over console features that are null in pc version..

I doubt any of the in game report player features can lead to VAC ban.. but again.. who knows for sure?

maybe i'll send in a support request to trey or activision.

02-10-2011, 05:47 PM	#1
Rapidfire48 Guest Posts: n/a	Help with all these hackers I have a video of a guy in a black ops server hacking big time. This is not the first time he has been reported but Steam does not seem to want to ban him for good. We pay good money for these games and we expect your VAC to work . If you cannot provide a better environment then I would like a refund on all my games. You are basically denying me my right to play these games in a hack free environment. You guys made so much money last year , you would think that maybe you would invest in a better anti cheat program.

02-11-2011, 04:56 AM	#6
Slayer00 Join Date: Sep 2006 Reputation: 1100 Posts: 5,486	VAC doesn't accept any kind of reports or proof of cheaters, VAC is fully automated. I don't know what the report player means in the game, but I think it sends the info to the game developer to.... Well for some reason. EDIT: Here is a thread about report player function on the game but no one knows what it is for, just speculation, http://forums.steampowered.com/forum....php?t=1710716 EDIT2: And here is some info on VAC, have a read; Valve Anti-Cheat: Information Thread Valve Anti-Cheat System (VAC) Cheaters, Abusive Admins, New Cheats, and Cheat Websites Last edited by Slayer00: 02-11-2011 at 05:01 AM.

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02-10-2011, 06:00 PM	#2
crum3086 Join Date: Nov 2010 Reputation: 37 Posts: 645	ill say what everyone else will say. 1. you pay for the license to use the game, you dont own the game. 2. you arent going to get any refund, so empty demands like that are pointless 3. no one promised a hack free environment 4. find another server it sucks, but just suck it up and deal with it. its just a game afterall.

02-10-2011, 07:42 PM	#4
B33 ENN Join Date: Nov 2010 Reputation: 2904 Posts: 5,420	Get all the legit non-cheating players to surround his spawn point and then lob grenades at him repeatedly until he gets the message.

02-10-2011, 09:15 PM	#5
Jagged Tooth Join Date: Aug 2005 Reputation: 1115 Posts: 3,111	First read up on how VAC actually works. Second find a decent server with good admins.

02-11-2011, 06:23 AM	#7
Nekomancer Join Date: Mar 2008 Reputation: 2386 Posts: 15,156	Every AC promises a cheat free environment, and in all cases, including VAC, it is a promise they can't keep. In Germany we call this a "Teufelskreis", whatever you do, the other side reacts to it and nothing really changes. There will always be cheaters and new cheats and there will always be new signature to detect new cheats. It's a never ending cycle.

02-13-2011, 08:24 AM	#9
UNeedHelp! Join Date: Dec 2009 Reputation: 3 Posts: 129	I still wonder what the in game report as "cheater" does. Maybe treyarch just resets their account when X number of complaints are made on 1 player.. or maybe it's just left over console features that are null in pc version.. I doubt any of the in game report player features can lead to VAC ban.. but again.. who knows for sure? maybe i'll send in a support request to trey or activision.