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Old 08-10-2011, 11:24 AM   #1
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CS is too imbalanced

The game only has 3 guns in use: ak-47, m4a1 and Awp.
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Old 08-10-2011, 11:57 AM   #2
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did anybody else expected a speech besides me? anyone?
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Old 08-10-2011, 12:00 PM   #3
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did anybody else expected a speech besides me? anyone?
I did.
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Old 08-10-2011, 12:02 PM   #4
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YOU WIN !
YOU ARE THE 10000TH POSTER TO WRITE THAT.
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Old 08-10-2011, 12:11 PM   #5
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and its been like that since the start
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Old 08-10-2011, 12:18 PM   #6
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i can write a speech if you like
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Old 08-10-2011, 01:47 PM   #7
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i can write a speech if you like
Do it! i like to hear your opinion.
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Old 08-10-2011, 02:01 PM   #8
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ok then.

Various special forces in the world are using various weapons. They do not always use m4a1. Smgs are useful in close quarter combat and so they are widely used. Also even though m4a1 and ak-47 are famous guns, special forces use different types of rifles.

The weapon imbalance is the reason of people getting bored and quit playing CS. People oppose the weapon balance but then they quit after playing few years because they got bored.

For balancing CS two things need to be done. Money system must change so that loser team is forced to use cheaper rifles and SMGs. Money is abundant in CS. Also gun prices must be changed in order to the popularity and demand of the gun.

Famas Galil Aug and Sg 552 must be reconsidered and tweaked. They are worse than ak and colt so useless.

SMG's damage to unarmored targets should be improved. P90 needs more accuracy and stopping power like it should be. Mp5 and ump should be more powerful

There should be at least 5-6 weapon options for diversity and for a more fun CSS in contrast to 3 we have

Last of all, awp is too dominant and it ruins the game, its price maybe raised a bit.

edit: Also new weapons maybe introduced...

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Old 08-10-2011, 02:53 PM   #9
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ok then.

Various special forces in the world are using various weapons. They do not always use m4a1. Smgs are useful in close quarter combat and so they are widely used. Also even though m4a1 and ak-47 are famous guns, special forces use different types of rifles.

The weapon imbalance is the reason of people getting bored and quit playing CS. People oppose the weapon balance but then they quit after playing few years because they got bored.

For balancing CS two things need to be done. Money system must change so that loser team is forced to use cheaper rifles and SMGs. Money is abundant in CS. Also gun prices must be changed in order to the popularity and demand of the gun.

Famas Galil Aug and Sg 552 must be reconsidered and tweaked. They are worse than ak and colt so useless.

SMG's damage to unarmored targets should be improved. P90 needs more accuracy and stopping power like it should be. Mp5 and ump should be more powerful

There should be at least 5-6 weapon options for diversity and for a more fun CSS in contrast to 3 we have

Last of all, awp is too dominant and it ruins the game, its price maybe raised a bit.

edit: Also new weapons maybe introduced...
1) You can't argue change on the grounds of realism. CS at its core is already unrealistic.
At this point I'm starting to think everyone bringing up "In IRL they don't use these guns" is just trying to show off their Wiki knowledge.

2) If people were quitting because of weapon imbalances, CS would've died off long ago. It hasn't.

3) So, dynamically, weapons should have their pricing changed according to their popularity?

4) Galil/Famas have already gotten a speed boost. Past speed, I believe they were decent weapons in their own right anyway. At least, the Galil is. Famas will be fine as long as they don't over-nerf the burst fire. The optics mounted ARs are underused, I admit.

5) You're arguing against the most popular weapons in CS, yet you want to buff the 2 most popular SMGs in the game? The P90 already is a beast at CQB, which is its specific specialty. The MP5 does well enough as a money saving weapon, it's not meant to be taking down the other team's top riflers or awpers.

6) Weapon options for diversity smells a little like it's going in the direction of CoD. What would you propose as these 'options'? I would assume things like firing modes/attachments?

7) AWP is powerful. Not unstoppable. Especially when you have rifles like the AK that can knock out an AWP with one headshot

8) No new weapons please.
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Old 08-10-2011, 03:23 PM   #10
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Various special forces in the world are using various weapons. They do not always use m4a1. Smgs are useful in close quarter combat and so they are widely used. Also even though m4a1 and ak-47 are famous guns, special forces use different types of rifles.
And in real-life a glock shot in the foot would have you rolling on the floor in agony waiting for a morphine injection.

It's not real...
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Old 08-10-2011, 04:05 PM   #11
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[QUOTE=Miskin;24271450]ok then.
For balancing CS two things need to be done. Money system must change so that loser team is forced to use cheaper rifles and SMGs. Money is abundant in CS. Also gun prices must be changed in order to the popularity and demand of the gun.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-Strike:_Source

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On October 11, 2006, Valve released an experimental update, Dynamic Weapons Pricing. Under this system, item prices are determined based on their demand the previous week.[9][10][11] Other updates, such as an enhanced radar system, have been generally accepted as a positive enhancement.
I can tell you, that it was a catastrophe: for example, Desert Eagle costed 16 000$ at some point.
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Old 08-10-2011, 01:07 PM   #12
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The game only has 3 guns in use: ak-47, m4a1 and Awp.
CS is definetly imbalanced since it has weapons and as we know, weapons have the nasty habit of killing people.
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Old 08-10-2011, 03:27 PM   #13
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It really makes no sense how some guns are pretty much worthless.And AWP is so overpowered, just aim down a doorway and you will probably get like 5 kills with one shot.
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Old 08-10-2011, 03:50 PM   #14
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It really makes no sense how some guns are pretty much worthless.And AWP is so overpowered, just aim down a doorway and you will probably get like 5 kills with one shot.
This is not how it work's competitively. You might pull that off in public but in a 5on5 it's kinda rare.
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Old 08-10-2011, 04:18 PM   #15
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It really makes no sense how some guns are pretty much worthless.And AWP is so overpowered, just aim down a doorway and you will probably get like 5 kills with one shot.
Maybe in the pubs you play... There's a reason why the AWP is as it is - competitive play.
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