[SPOILERS] The other ending..

Pyrateer · 01-06-2012, 01:09 AM

Did I miss something?

So, the first ending suggests that Mir has undergone the enormous undertaking of bringing together, by his own words, the worlds greatest engineers, psychologists and genetecists to construct technology far outside his own era, and gathered the needle-in-a-haystack information of two outstanding genetic components that are romantically compatable. He then administered, "manipulation, lying, kidnapping, and stealing" to integrate these components into a system that creates genetic superbabies. Fine. Understood.

However, the secret ending seems to contradict these motives. It is revealed that the hacking was actually staged by Mir himself. So let me get this straight: Mir intentionally informed Ky of what is suggested to be the only thing that could have prevented the eventual union of Ky and Naia, and then attempted to suppress Ky through potentially murdering him for knowing about it? Mir attempted to sabotage his own elaborate scheme in two different ways.

Why? Even assuming the Naia & Ky pairing thing was another elaborate lie, his motives definitely pertain to Naia, as she is the only thing that Ky acquires while being held captive by Mir. And, it is more than suggested his genetic material is the other component here. Where else could Mir be going with this? Are we to assume Mir attempting to sabotage his own plan was just a failed attempt at a plot twist?

Don't get me wrong. I loved and thoroughly enjoyed the game. But I have suspicions the second ending is one gigantic plothole. What am I missing here?

IridiumStudios · 01-06-2012, 02:12 AM

There is much untold in Sequence, a little game I made for about $5,000. I won't go into anything that goes beyond what the game itself attempts to tell.

However, you seem to assume that 1) Mir would have actually followed through on his threat to murder Ky, and that 2) Ky and Naia's understanding that they were in an expressly designed simulation would significantly reduce the chances of their union. Neither of these is shown to be true.

Pyrateer · 01-06-2012, 02:36 AM

Thanks for your reply. I'm impressed that you're so active in this forum. I think you did a fantastic job with the game. My enjoyment was enough that I took the time to get all of the achievements on Spasmodic, if that's any indication. It was money well spent.

My confusion lies more in the fact that Mir went through the trouble of essentially creating an excuse to 'force' himself into explaining the situation. He doesn't simply decide to explain the situation. He creates a fairly in-depth pretext. This leads me to believe that Mir was fabricating his motives. However, ALL indicators point toward, at the very least, the Ky/Naia union truly being a focus. Even the Iris achievement, as inconsequential as it may be, suggests validity in the importance of Ky's genes. I suppose I'm just not complacent with the fact the ending is a cliffhanger rather than an actual hint as to the truth of the situation.

Do you have plans to continue the story? Whether through a direct sequel or a different medium entirely?

Again, thanks for the great game, and thanks for the reply.

IridiumStudios · 01-06-2012, 03:08 AM

I can't answer a lot of your questions, unfortunately. They go...beyond the scope of the game. = P

There is a reason that such a play would be useful for the Tower to put on, to create an "adversary" in Shira and Aeana...but, well, that one's a secret, for now.

And you're correct in noting that his motives do appear to be...less than perfectly honest.

I can't yet reveal any actual plans to continue the story, but know that quite a bit beyond Sequence was planned and written well before the game was produced. My next game may or may not be Sequence 2, depending on a few factors. If it is Sequence 2, though, it'll be a direct sequel.

DJ Koopa · 01-06-2012, 10:50 AM

If you do make Sequence 2, can I be a voice actor? D: [/unrelated]

Though, in more seriousness, I'll be waiting for a sequel. A good story like this is hard to come by.

Zeon Twilight · 01-06-2012, 09:38 PM

If your next title is Sequence 2, you'll have my money long before a silly Christmas sale next time. In fact, I'm so inspired that I'm probably going to write a long winded review/love letter to you folks.

I have my own theories on what the endings mean, but The bonus ending also made a weird sort of sense to me, let's not forget, in this ending Ky and Naia get some extra information that even we the players are unaware of at this point.

01-06-2012, 01:09 AM	#1
Pyrateer Join Date: Jan 2012 Reputation: 2 Posts: 2	[SPOILERS] The other ending.. Did I miss something? So, the first ending suggests that Mir has undergone the enormous undertaking of bringing together, by his own words, the worlds greatest engineers, psychologists and genetecists to construct technology far outside his own era, and gathered the needle-in-a-haystack information of two outstanding genetic components that are romantically compatable. He then administered, "manipulation, lying, kidnapping, and stealing" to integrate these components into a system that creates genetic superbabies. Fine. Understood. However, the secret ending seems to contradict these motives. It is revealed that the hacking was actually staged by Mir himself. So let me get this straight: Mir intentionally informed Ky of what is suggested to be the only thing that could have prevented the eventual union of Ky and Naia, and then attempted to suppress Ky through potentially murdering him for knowing about it? Mir attempted to sabotage his own elaborate scheme in two different ways. Why? Even assuming the Naia & Ky pairing thing was another elaborate lie, his motives definitely pertain to Naia, as she is the only thing that Ky acquires while being held captive by Mir. And, it is more than suggested his genetic material is the other component here. Where else could Mir be going with this? Are we to assume Mir attempting to sabotage his own plan was just a failed attempt at a plot twist? Don't get me wrong. I loved and thoroughly enjoyed the game. But I have suspicions the second ending is one gigantic plothole. What am I missing here?

01-06-2012, 02:12 AM	#2
IridiumStudios Iridium Studios Join Date: Oct 2011 Reputation: 108 Posts: 532	There is much untold in Sequence, a little game I made for about $5,000. I won't go into anything that goes beyond what the game itself attempts to tell. However, you seem to assume that 1) Mir would have actually followed through on his threat to murder Ky, and that 2) Ky and Naia's understanding that they were in an expressly designed simulation would significantly reduce the chances of their union. Neither of these is shown to be true. Last edited by IridiumStudios: 01-06-2012 at 02:16 AM.

01-06-2012, 03:08 AM	#4
IridiumStudios Iridium Studios Join Date: Oct 2011 Reputation: 108 Posts: 532	I can't answer a lot of your questions, unfortunately. They go...beyond the scope of the game. = P There is a reason that such a play would be useful for the Tower to put on, to create an "adversary" in Shira and Aeana...but, well, that one's a secret, for now. And you're correct in noting that his motives do appear to be...less than perfectly honest. I can't yet reveal any actual plans to continue the story, but know that quite a bit beyond Sequence was planned and written well before the game was produced. My next game may or may not be Sequence 2, depending on a few factors. If it is Sequence 2, though, it'll be a direct sequel. Last edited by IridiumStudios: 01-06-2012 at 04:38 AM.

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01-06-2012, 02:36 AM	#3
Pyrateer Join Date: Jan 2012 Reputation: 2 Posts: 2	Thanks for your reply. I'm impressed that you're so active in this forum. I think you did a fantastic job with the game. My enjoyment was enough that I took the time to get all of the achievements on Spasmodic, if that's any indication. It was money well spent. My confusion lies more in the fact that Mir went through the trouble of essentially creating an excuse to 'force' himself into explaining the situation. He doesn't simply decide to explain the situation. He creates a fairly in-depth pretext. This leads me to believe that Mir was fabricating his motives. However, ALL indicators point toward, at the very least, the Ky/Naia union truly being a focus. Even the Iris achievement, as inconsequential as it may be, suggests validity in the importance of Ky's genes. I suppose I'm just not complacent with the fact the ending is a cliffhanger rather than an actual hint as to the truth of the situation. Do you have plans to continue the story? Whether through a direct sequel or a different medium entirely? Again, thanks for the great game, and thanks for the reply.

01-06-2012, 10:50 AM	#5
DJ Koopa Join Date: Jan 2011 Reputation: 0 Posts: 46	If you do make Sequence 2, can I be a voice actor? D: [/unrelated] Though, in more seriousness, I'll be waiting for a sequel. A good story like this is hard to come by.

01-06-2012, 09:38 PM	#6
Zeon Twilight Join Date: Dec 2009 Reputation: 23 Posts: 160	If your next title is Sequence 2, you'll have my money long before a silly Christmas sale next time. In fact, I'm so inspired that I'm probably going to write a long winded review/love letter to you folks. I have my own theories on what the endings mean, but The bonus ending also made a weird sort of sense to me, let's not forget, in this ending Ky and Naia get some extra information that even we the players are unaware of at this point.