The Crinale - Overpowered or not?

Zat0ne · 04-30-2012, 12:18 PM

Hi guys, just wanted to get your opinion about using the Crinale in a multiplayer match. I used it once against others who didn't, and it seemed too much of an advantage. I never used it again. I was thinking to use it only if everyone else will agree to choosing it in a race.

This legendary RR car is just way too easy to drive, and has the highest acceleration and Top speed of all the Super class cars, with the Hurricana CX essentially the close second.

Which brings me to the point that RRU MP doesn't have a way to show what cars your opponents are choosing. This can be ok, but if someone chose the Crinale, the others won't be able to change their choices to adapt.

KazzyMac · 04-30-2012, 03:09 PM

I agree; as far as the Super Class goes, the car is OP. I have only used it once - and that was when I knew I was going to get an 8-player race (only happened once) in order to get the achievement.

For those who have the DLC however; the Immortal is just as bad and could be more of a nuisance as it seems to have better cornering.

I just stick to the Hurricana though. I don't like having unfair advantages and I prefer the drifting of the Hurricana over the Crinale and Immortal (corners I can drift through at 200-220km/h in the Hurricana I can only manage at 160-190km/h in the Immortal so meh.)

=/

Ceiling_Cat · 04-30-2012, 03:25 PM

never use it in multiplayer

i only use

motega (montega when spelled properly)
dorean/dorean drift
hurricana

Zat0ne · 04-30-2012, 03:51 PM

Thanks for the input guys! I guess this is one of those "unwritten rules". I just felt I had to mention it here for those itching to use it after unlocking it. I'm also waiting to get an 8-player lobby to get the achievement. We'll probably see players use it when the lobby has that many players

KazzyMac - is the Immortal only for the console versions? I don't remember a DLC for RRU PC... and yah a lot of players use the Hurricana CX coz of it's balance... balance meaning having a price to pay for having that much power - is it's tissue paper armor. Fair enough in MP.

I use:

Street - Ashburn (I'm a stubborn drift bloke)
Race - Wraithe, Nakamura
Super - Hurricana
Shindo - Hurricana, Nakamura

stoo · 04-30-2012, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zat0ne

KazzyMac - is the Immortal only for the console versions? I don't remember a DLC for RRU PC...

If you buy the Limited Edition, you get 3 extra cars and some extra paint jobs.

The Limited Edition is available for all platforms, and the Immortal is worth it :P

Purple44 · 04-30-2012, 11:43 PM

Does the limited edition cars give players online an advantage against players that only have the stock cars to pick from?

And I take it there no "same has host" option in RRU? So all players race the same stock car ( no dlc cars, since not all players would have them ).

Frontman · 05-01-2012, 01:23 AM

I'd say the limited edition is definitely giving an advantage as this is the intent of such a limited edition and you pay for it usually. In this case it's just a little up-side-down that Steam can't make a better price than retail stores.

@ the ones who have the limited edition: how does the multi-player integrate? With the Steam version it integrates fully into Steam (achievements, overlay etc.) and I wonder how it provides that functionality without Steam i.e. "invite friends" since Patch 1.07???

Do retail owners also get the patches or is THAT exactly the real Steam advantage?

KazzyMac · 05-01-2012, 02:53 AM

All the pre-order DLC (the bonus cars) are in the data - both retail and Steam. The retail version uses Steamworks to register the game anyway.

I have the Immortal on xbox and I can play against people that don't have the DLC (or did, when people played it :/) but the pre-order DLC for the xbox was easy to get hold of so everybody had the Immortal anyway (the 8-player race I had in the Crinale, 4 people were using the Immortal ... they all crashed at the first corner >_>)

I'm also glad to see people being respectful and honouring 'unwritten laws' of video games (much like on Blur, an unwritten law amongst good drivers is to not ram)

And to see how this compares, the cars I learned to use;

Street: Motega XR, Gremlin GS (the gremlin is the one that looks like a Nissan GT-R, right? that one. its acceleration is just a bit ♥♥♥♥ though)
Race: Crimson TT (I would drive the Dorean LE but it loses too much speed through drifts for my liking)
Street: Hurricana CX (I can drive the first one but I prefer the Hurricana)
Shindo Drift: Dorean Drift
Shindo Race: I have no preference. The Shindo cars are too unbalanced anyway; my favourite is the Motega but good luck winning with it in later career races :/

btw I found out the top speed of the Hurricana is 303km/h (that's about 190mph I think ... that's pretty quick). The first Super-class car (I forget its name, looks like a Corvette ZR-1) gets to 285km/h. I've yet to find out what the top speed of the Immortal and Crinale are; I've gotten 330km/h out of the Immortal but never got it stable enough to find out if it would keep going or not :l

Oh, and funny thing is: I bought the DLC and got the Immortal, but I always use the Galaga DLC car for Super Class. Guess what car model the Galaga is? Hint: everyone here seems to like driving it.

plug http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9EBl...ure=plpp_video /plug

never did understand what the 'red mic' icon means... game dev?

Frontman · 05-01-2012, 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KazzyMac

never did understand what the 'red mic' icon means... game dev?

I actually bumped into the "X mute" button - Fred said they once planned to include in-game voice chat but then it somehow got lost and they even forgot to remove the visuals and knobs

fredizzimo · 05-01-2012, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KazzyMac

never did understand what the 'red mic' icon means... game dev?

That video shows the xbox version, that has working voice chat. The red mic icon means that the person has been muted.

It might also be a bug, there was a bug about the icons being randomly displayed, that we fixed at some point. In any case it will be resolved in the title update.

The voice chat was also ment to be there for PC, since external voice chat application would mess with the game traffic and cause lag, or bad voice quality. But it's currently not enabled, there was some misunderstanding so no one actually finished it properly. It's mostly working though, so it's possible that it will be enabled in a patch.

Fred from Bugbear

RoyalMonaco76 · 05-01-2012, 04:09 PM

The Crinale and the Immortal, along with the CX, are basically RR:U's equivalents of the Bullet GT, Flatmobile and Rocket in FO2/Flatout UC. OP as hell, and every tard third worlder uses them online.

KazzyMac · 05-01-2012, 05:14 PM

The Hurricana CX isn't that OP though; its acceleration is actually pretty rubbish at high speed.

I've also noticed its boost isn't too good either - I watched a few alpha/beta videos of RR:U and noticed that a car stat that was 'dropped' from the stat screen was a 'boost' stat. However from experience with Blur I still believe that this stat is in the game but just hidden (in layman terms some cars have better boost than others, and the Hurricana seems to have rather bad boost)

But yeah ... out of the 'standard' Super Class cars, the Hurricana is easily the best one. Then again I just drive it because it suits my driving style whereas the other two don't (the first car is a bit loose when drifting, the 2nd one just has horrible handling.)

:/

RoyalMonaco76 · 05-01-2012, 08:04 PM

Speaking of things cut/dropped from RR:U, check this out, found in extracted game files.
http://i.imgur.com/MkqDY.jpg
Cool eh?
Most likely the original Frag Attack vehicle.

KazzyMac · 05-02-2012, 02:52 AM

Good thing that Bugbear coded the car select screen in as a collection of screenshots instead of dynamic 3D loading like most other games

But yeah, that's interesting. I could see why it would have been dropped though ... it's HUGE. Well, more 'long' than 'huge' tbh but ... you get the idea.

I'm sure Fred will want to clarify this now

Zat0ne · 05-02-2012, 01:31 PM

Would it be fair game to bring the Crinale in against a lobby of players who persist on using the Immortal? Just came from races in which I was barely holding my own against a pair of Immortals with the Hurricana CX.

04-30-2012, 12:18 PM	#1
Zat0ne Join Date: Apr 2012 Reputation: 7 Posts: 21	The Crinale - Overpowered or not? Hi guys, just wanted to get your opinion about using the Crinale in a multiplayer match. I used it once against others who didn't, and it seemed too much of an advantage. I never used it again. I was thinking to use it only if everyone else will agree to choosing it in a race. This legendary RR car is just way too easy to drive, and has the highest acceleration and Top speed of all the Super class cars, with the Hurricana CX essentially the close second. Which brings me to the point that RRU MP doesn't have a way to show what cars your opponents are choosing. This can be ok, but if someone chose the Crinale, the others won't be able to change their choices to adapt.

04-30-2012, 03:25 PM	#3
Ceiling_Cat Banned Join Date: Apr 2012 Reputation: 19 Posts: 183	never use it in multiplayer i only use motega (montega when spelled properly) dorean/dorean drift hurricana Last edited by Ceiling_Cat: 04-30-2012 at 04:13 PM.

05-01-2012, 01:23 AM	#7
Frontman Join Date: Mar 2012 Reputation: 12 Posts: 301	I'd say the limited edition is definitely giving an advantage as this is the intent of such a limited edition and you pay for it usually. In this case it's just a little up-side-down that Steam can't make a better price than retail stores. @ the ones who have the limited edition: how does the multi-player integrate? With the Steam version it integrates fully into Steam (achievements, overlay etc.) and I wonder how it provides that functionality without Steam i.e. "invite friends" since Patch 1.07??? Do retail owners also get the patches or is THAT exactly the real Steam advantage? Last edited by Frontman: 05-01-2012 at 01:28 AM.

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04-30-2012, 03:09 PM	#2
KazzyMac Join Date: Dec 2011 Reputation: 67 Posts: 871	I agree; as far as the Super Class goes, the car is OP. I have only used it once - and that was when I knew I was going to get an 8-player race (only happened once) in order to get the achievement. For those who have the DLC however; the Immortal is just as bad and could be more of a nuisance as it seems to have better cornering. I just stick to the Hurricana though. I don't like having unfair advantages and I prefer the drifting of the Hurricana over the Crinale and Immortal (corners I can drift through at 200-220km/h in the Hurricana I can only manage at 160-190km/h in the Immortal so meh.) =/

04-30-2012, 03:51 PM	#4
Zat0ne Join Date: Apr 2012 Reputation: 7 Posts: 21	Thanks for the input guys! I guess this is one of those "unwritten rules". I just felt I had to mention it here for those itching to use it after unlocking it. I'm also waiting to get an 8-player lobby to get the achievement. We'll probably see players use it when the lobby has that many players KazzyMac - is the Immortal only for the console versions? I don't remember a DLC for RRU PC... and yah a lot of players use the Hurricana CX coz of it's balance... balance meaning having a price to pay for having that much power - is it's tissue paper armor. Fair enough in MP. I use: Street - Ashburn (I'm a stubborn drift bloke) Race - Wraithe, Nakamura Super - Hurricana Shindo - Hurricana, Nakamura

04-30-2012, 11:43 PM	#6
Purple44 Join Date: Dec 2006 Reputation: 93 Posts: 1,193	Does the limited edition cars give players online an advantage against players that only have the stock cars to pick from? And I take it there no "same has host" option in RRU? So all players race the same stock car ( no dlc cars, since not all players would have them ).

05-01-2012, 02:53 AM	#8
KazzyMac Join Date: Dec 2011 Reputation: 67 Posts: 871	All the pre-order DLC (the bonus cars) are in the data - both retail and Steam. The retail version uses Steamworks to register the game anyway. I have the Immortal on xbox and I can play against people that don't have the DLC (or did, when people played it :/) but the pre-order DLC for the xbox was easy to get hold of so everybody had the Immortal anyway (the 8-player race I had in the Crinale, 4 people were using the Immortal ... they all crashed at the first corner >_>) I'm also glad to see people being respectful and honouring 'unwritten laws' of video games (much like on Blur, an unwritten law amongst good drivers is to not ram) And to see how this compares, the cars I learned to use; Street: Motega XR, Gremlin GS (the gremlin is the one that looks like a Nissan GT-R, right? that one. its acceleration is just a bit ♥♥♥♥ though) Race: Crimson TT (I would drive the Dorean LE but it loses too much speed through drifts for my liking) Street: Hurricana CX (I can drive the first one but I prefer the Hurricana) Shindo Drift: Dorean Drift Shindo Race: I have no preference. The Shindo cars are too unbalanced anyway; my favourite is the Motega but good luck winning with it in later career races :/ btw I found out the top speed of the Hurricana is 303km/h (that's about 190mph I think ... that's pretty quick). The first Super-class car (I forget its name, looks like a Corvette ZR-1) gets to 285km/h. I've yet to find out what the top speed of the Immortal and Crinale are; I've gotten 330km/h out of the Immortal but never got it stable enough to find out if it would keep going or not :l Oh, and funny thing is: I bought the DLC and got the Immortal, but I always use the Galaga DLC car for Super Class. Guess what car model the Galaga is? Hint: everyone here seems to like driving it. plug http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9EBl...ure=plpp_video /plug never did understand what the 'red mic' icon means... game dev?

05-01-2012, 04:09 PM	#11
RoyalMonaco76 Banned Join Date: Jul 2011 Reputation: 7 Posts: 138	The Crinale and the Immortal, along with the CX, are basically RR:U's equivalents of the Bullet GT, Flatmobile and Rocket in FO2/Flatout UC. OP as hell, and every tard third worlder uses them online.

05-01-2012, 05:14 PM	#12
KazzyMac Join Date: Dec 2011 Reputation: 67 Posts: 871	The Hurricana CX isn't that OP though; its acceleration is actually pretty rubbish at high speed. I've also noticed its boost isn't too good either - I watched a few alpha/beta videos of RR:U and noticed that a car stat that was 'dropped' from the stat screen was a 'boost' stat. However from experience with Blur I still believe that this stat is in the game but just hidden (in layman terms some cars have better boost than others, and the Hurricana seems to have rather bad boost) But yeah ... out of the 'standard' Super Class cars, the Hurricana is easily the best one. Then again I just drive it because it suits my driving style whereas the other two don't (the first car is a bit loose when drifting, the 2nd one just has horrible handling.) :/

05-01-2012, 08:04 PM	#13
RoyalMonaco76 Banned Join Date: Jul 2011 Reputation: 7 Posts: 138	Speaking of things cut/dropped from RR:U, check this out, found in extracted game files. http://i.imgur.com/MkqDY.jpg Cool eh? Most likely the original Frag Attack vehicle.

05-02-2012, 02:52 AM	#14
KazzyMac Join Date: Dec 2011 Reputation: 67 Posts: 871	Good thing that Bugbear coded the car select screen in as a collection of screenshots instead of dynamic 3D loading like most other games But yeah, that's interesting. I could see why it would have been dropped though ... it's HUGE. Well, more 'long' than 'huge' tbh but ... you get the idea. I'm sure Fred will want to clarify this now

05-02-2012, 01:31 PM	#15
Zat0ne Join Date: Apr 2012 Reputation: 7 Posts: 21	Would it be fair game to bring the Crinale in against a lobby of players who persist on using the Immortal? Just came from races in which I was barely holding my own against a pair of Immortals with the Hurricana CX.