Possible Pomson 6000 Nerf

[Brutis_Buckeye]

So I think by now, we all know that the Pomson 6k has hit a nerve for some people because of various issues. Some people dont like its ability to drain cloak/uber, others dont like its penetrating ability, and while others dont like its rather large hitbox. Penetration shouldnt be an issue since the bison pistol has the ability to penetrate. However, if the hitbox remains the same for the Pomson 6k, and will not change in the future, then perhaps a good nerf would be as follows:

Instead of depleting 10% uber on hit, why not let it deplete the uber ONLY when the medic is using the ubercharge, that way the medic can pop the uber and then the engie can "come to the rescue" and spam some shots at him, thus making the uber last for a shorter time. Afterall, its better for an uber to be used, than to not. Thoughts?

[2dor]

Stop playing on trade servers, also learn to avoid being hit. (just take your hand of the keyboard when someone shoots it)

Altouhg I have to admit that the hitbox is a bit oversized.

[Brutis_Buckeye]

Originally Posted by 2dor

Altouhg I have to admit that the hitbox is a bit oversized.

thats one of the points I was making too. If it was smaller, then off course it would be easier to avoid

[2dor]

Originally Posted by Brutis_Buckeye

thats one of the points I was making too. If it was smaller, then off course it would be easier to avoid

The only problem for that I find is for snipers. I mean I'm hiding near the corner waiting for the engie to reload of shoot elsewhere, and he drains my life.

But probably this only happenes to me because I wear Lime hats, a Strange Machina, and I do top score. I think I'm unwillingy becoming a sex simbol due to deathcams.

[FiveEyes]

Originally Posted by 2dor

also learn to avoid being hit.

Originally Posted by 2dor

Altouhg I have to admit that the hitbox is a bit oversized.

That is why it's difficult to dodge at times. I'll think I'm clear of the shot yet it still hits me.

[kiriona]

Originally Posted by FiveEyes

That is why it's difficult to dodge at times. I'll think I'm clear of the shot yet it still hits me.

i have the same problem with flamethrowers tbh

although the way flame particles behave is weird anyway and apparently hard for the wiki to explain in a way that makes sense?

- fix hitboxes
- no drain on penetration
- no random crits
- no more complaints about the potato mangler 6000

i also still believe it's basically underpowered compared to every other engineer primary and just a badly designed weapon in general but w/e, doubt they'll actually remove it

[Demoman 2101]

Originally Posted by 2dor

Stop playing on trade servers, also learn to avoid being hit. (just take your hand of the keyboard when someone shoots it)

Altouhg I have to admit that the hitbox is a bit oversized.

This is the worst argument since the Pomson was released. Why didn't anyone ever think of dodging the Tomislav before we nerfed it? I mean, if we dodged it, it wouldn't be such an issue. Right?

Well nice touch captain killer whale, the Pomson is one of the hardest projectiles to dodge in this game, because of various things.

-Large hitboxes
-High projectile speed
-Ability to penetrate
-Easy spamable (no ammo, fast reload)

Stop using the dodge argument, it's more flawed than TF2 after a Mannconomy update. Sheesh.

[2dor]

Originally Posted by Demoman 2101

This is the worst argument since the Pomson was released. Why didn't anyone ever think of dodging the Tomislav before we nerfed it? I mean, if we dodged it, it wouldn't be such an issue. Right?

Well nice touch captain killer whale, the Pomson is one of the hardest projectiles to dodge in this game, because of various things.

-Large hitboxes
-High projectile speed
-Ability to penetrate
-Easy spamable (no ammo, fast reload)

Stop using the dodge argument, it's more flawed than TF2 after a Mannconomy update. Sheesh.

Usually when I post, especially on this forum, because its strictly related to TF2 I ballance things in my mind for every gamer, from the high end to the very low, but some posts on this forum makes me think that only a few are midle range and the rest are just low skilled.

I find the pomson under the stock shotgun. Because I can't put my target on something that moves and shoot, because even someone is spamming a choke point that engie can be easily killed. It's just a bad situational weapon that can be avoided in particular situations like choke points.

[Heisterburg]

Originally Posted by 2dor

Usually when I post, especially on this forum, because its strictly related to TF2 I ballance things in my mind for every gamer, from the high end to the very low, but some posts on this forum makes me think that only a few are midle range and the rest are just low skilled.

I find the pomson under the stock shotgun. Because I can't put my target on something that moves and shoot, because even someone is spamming a choke point that engie can be easily killed. It's just a bad situational weapon that can be avoided in particular situations like choke points.

All mid and high levels have banned Pomson, what does that tell you?

[KajiVena]

Originally Posted by Heisterburg

All mid and high levels have banned Pomson, what does that tell you?

comp is full of idits that cant dodge

yur bad and yu shuld feel bad

[Rynjin]

Originally Posted by Heisterburg

All mid and high levels have banned Pomson, what does that tell you?

That it ♥♥♥♥s with Uber and they ban everything that looks at Uber funny.

This particular item may be slightly more OP than the others, but you can't sincerely tell me that we should get to nerfing the Eviction Notice and Bonk! while we're at it.

Banned in comp =/= It's OP.

In this case it happens to overlap, but not nearly always.

[hawkshadow741]

Originally Posted by Demoman 2101

-Large hitboxes
-High projectile speed
-Ability to penetrate
-Easy spamable (no ammo, fast reload)

Flamethrowers
Huntsman
Rocket Launchers
Miniguns
Grenade Launcher

your point being...?

[Zuppan]

Originally Posted by hawkshadow741

Flamethrowers
Huntsman
Rocket Launchers
Miniguns
Grenade Launcher

your point being...?

Ahem, Pomson has all those abilities, you just picked some weapons that cover 1 or 2 of those. Besides there is nothing more annoying than "unlimited" range and penetration. None of those weapons penetrate enemies to my knowledge.

[Demoman 2101]

Originally Posted by hawkshadow741

Flamethrowers
Huntsman
Rocket Launchers
Miniguns
Grenade Launcher

your point being...?

Short Range
Doesn't penetrate, and prove me wrong, it has smaller hitboxes
Pomson projectile is faster than a rocket launcher's (unless it's a Direct Hit/Liberty Launcher)
Mini-Gun require the Heavy to rev up, and go slower
Grenade Launcher does no have unlimited ammo, doesn't penetrate and arcs.

You just combined 5 primary weapons and compaired it to 1 secondary, and think it's balance. Yes all Shotgun replacements and the Shotgun itself are really secondaries. The Engineer has 2 secondaries and 1 primary being the Sentry.

Originally Posted by MiKeV

Weapons hurt and dying sucks.

Deal with it.

SPUF hurts and you suck.

Deal with it.

[Rynjin]

Originally Posted by l'interdit

No drain on penetration.

Originally Posted by MCMackers

Just remove drain after penetration and be done with it.

Successssssssssss....

Originally Posted by ACubeGod

You know what happens when SPUF whines? Natascha gets nerfed, an already UP weapon.

Waitwaitwait hold UP.

Did you really just say that Natascha was UP on release? Because I think that is the single dumbest thing I've ever seen you type.