This game is WAY too easy.

[gorpie]

Originally Posted by Azul5

Play to win, you'll miss it as you speed through it. Play for a story, you'll spend days absorbed into the game.

I hate being stuck between 2 worlds...

Originally Posted by Nerv322

EDIT: I have a friend who said it was too hard and has never completed it.

Though you didn't really flame anyone about the game, ditto what Azul said about choosing words.

But regarding your friend, have him/her check out UHS hints if they want to. It's not a full walkthrough (unless you read through the entire file), but maybe it will give your friend the hint just where they need it.

Using a hint file doesn't mean you beat the game yourself, but if you're just playing for fun, who cares. It's really frustrating to like a game you're playing, and then have to stop because you can't go further, and then feel like a dork on top of it.

(Most of the hints are available in online mode, but if they want to download them you have to buy the reader. I bought mine 10-12 years ago and haven't ever had to give them another dime. Geez, I feel like I should get paid as many times as I mentioned that place recently.)

[Nerv322]

Originally Posted by Azul5

Claiming someone is low on any level of intelligence is sure to get some retaliation. For some people, time spent on a game is irrelevant, compared to how much they learn from it in different manners. Some are drawn in by story, subtle pieces of plot strewn throughout the game. Some admire the technical aspect of it, and spend time simply paying attention to all technical details.

Don't assume that because someone spends much longer on a game than you, that you're somehow more intelligent in some manner or another. I spent upwards of two days playing it, somewhere around the six hour mark, simply because I was observing the dialogue of Glados and figuring out the unspoken messages behind it, lapses in safety precaution, predicting what would happen, then the words scribbled in the makeshift dens, witnessing the gradual insanity of whomever made those dens through their words written, photos taken. So much of the game is about ambiance, the subtle story placed in it. Play to win, you'll miss it as you speed through it. Play for a story, you'll spend days absorbed into the game.

I'm not going to start an argument here, just saying, choose your words a bit more carefully next time. People, myself included, can take them the wrong way.

SO what because you and some others took your time to pay attention to details that people like you set the standard. If you play like this everybody else must do. As far as I know the standard that most play to is to play the game. I too was taking in the game just the same, But it didn't hold my game time back. What am I gonna do, admire the identical walls, after Glados says something take a break and reflect on it. Serious I admire the game design as much as anyone but I can play the game at the same time.

You are missing my point entirely I didn't assume I was more intelligent, I was generalizing with the idea that people are playing the game, not to specific group of people who play a game to admire the game design. People are intelligent in different ways. I have a friend who will totally kill me with Sodoku and those type of puzzles, I am not particularly good at all. My friend can't play portal for ♥♥♥♥ he struggled and never bothered completed it. So am I more intelligent than him, No but I am better at these type of puzzles than he is, that just how my mind and his differ.

People who struggled with the puzzles in this game are not dumb it's just their Spatial IQ just isn't as high as mine may be. This does not reflect on their overall Intelligence that person could very well be a 100 times better than me and something else.

I wasn't being all arrogant like "bow down and kiss the ring"

I was basically saying some people are good at this game and others are not. I was good at this game, so I was slightly disappointed with the difficulty.

Look how something gets blown out proportion because someone didn't understand what was being said. If I had said what I wrote above no one would of said ♥♥♥♥.Bring IQ into it and people get defensive and misinterpret what I was saying.

I only brought Spatial IQ into it because that's the intelligence that relates to what is in this game.

[gorpie]

I'm always amazed that with the number of words we have available to us, we so often manage to miscommunicate...

(This is not directed at you, Nerv, I mean that everyone in the world miscommunicates.)

[Zekiran]

Spacial IQ is a farce. The things that are listed in your description of it have nothing to do with controlling a character in an FPS. An FPS is *virtual*, not *spacial*. Real spacial IQ involves real muscles responding to real things, eyes perceiving actual distances, real angle estimations. Not playing a video game which requires a heavy training-up of senses and accomodation for controlling it.

Like I said, I'm an artist: the first thing they list as "these people are usually". I have excellent *real world* spacial skills. But I didn't grow up playing video games. THAT is the difference between me rushing through and "beating the game" and other people. Since I don't play lots and lots of FPS games, I don't know what I'm doing in them. It's not a matter of other people having 'the lower IQ' it's a matter of experience.

In every case that I've seen someone complain that the game's too easy, or some particular in Half Life was simple to them but hard for others, it's really come down to an experience difference and little more.

I *know* how to solve the portal issues.

I cannot necessarily *do* those things very well. It's a matter of mouse control and twitch reflex, and I don't have those things in spades, sorry.

[Nerv322]

Originally Posted by Zekiran

Spacial IQ is a farce. The things that are listed in your description of it have nothing to do with controlling a character in an FPS. An FPS is *virtual*, not *spacial*. Real spacial IQ involves real muscles responding to real things, eyes perceiving actual distances, real angle estimations. Not playing a video game which requires a heavy training-up of senses and accomodation for controlling it.

Like I said, I'm an artist: the first thing they list as "these people are usually". I have excellent *real world* spacial skills. But I didn't grow up playing video games. THAT is the difference between me rushing through and "beating the game" and other people. Since I don't play lots and lots of FPS games, I don't know what I'm doing in them. It's not a matter of other people having 'the lower IQ' it's a matter of experience.

In every case that I've seen someone complain that the game's too easy, or some particular in Half Life was simple to them but hard for others, it's really come down to an experience difference and little more.

I *know* how to solve the portal issues.

I cannot necessarily *do* those things very well. It's a matter of mouse control and twitch reflex, and I don't have those things in spades, sorry.

No it is not a farce, It is factor at solving the problems in the game. You have to see the solution to the problem in your mind before you act on it (unless your a trial and error type person) People with a higher Spatial IQ are better at solving puzzles (usually related to 3d objects and patterns) Because of their capacity to visualize the problem and the solution in their mind.

Even though it is not a real distance in the game the same factor still remains as their is a perceived distance. So when people take spatial IQ tests they are shown 3d objects, patterns and shapes usually. So because they are on paper they are not real and so the test is pointless. Sorry but you are wrong.

Inexperience is a factor and I agreed to that in a previous post but I suppose it comes down to hand eye coordination, I have good hand eye coordination. I have always been good at shooting targets and video games, I had a friend who was strung out on heroin for years he got clean but his hand eye coordination was ♥♥♥♥ed. He literally cannot play computer games he sucks so bad. He even told me he cant play them cuz he has poor hand eye coordination, Hand eye coordination also has a slight relation to Spatial IQ.

I am not trying to blow my own trumpet or anything of the sort. I am just trying to explain what I think to be true in most cases, although conveyed poorly.

I wish I never said ♥♥♥♥.

It offends me that people seem to be taking offense because people think I am calling people dumb, I never said anything of the sort. If you can't see that then I am sorry to say but I think you might be dumb.

Stop relating Spatial IQ with the standard IQ that people seem to be assuming I am on about here.

[MADDOGGE]

Trollin trollin trollin keep them trolls a trollin. Don't feed the troll period.

[Nerv322]

Go ♥♥♥♥ your self you gimp

your the troll

[MADDOGGE]

Insulting people and then trying to go back on what you said hum no I'll stick to what I said. If you don't like a game thats fine. your free to say so. Insulting other players in your critic isn't nice though. This was a shock post.

This:

This game is WAY too easy.
My guess is VALVe decided to dumb this game down enough to appeal their audience of usually-stupid FPS gamers. This was barely a stimulating puzzle game. Every puzzle was solved within seconds. I would NOT suggest this game to any true puzzle fan.

Was said in a way to get reactions as he insulted every FPS player. In other words a troll post.

[Nerv322]

Originally Posted by MADDOGGE

Insulting people and then trying to go back on what you said hum no I'll stick to what I said. If you don't like a game thats fine. your free to say so. Insulting other players in your critic isn't nice though. This was a shock post.

This:


Was said in a way to get reactions as he insulted every FPS player. In other words a troll post.

Sorry I assumed you was calling me a troll, so I apologize for what I said.

If you were calling me a troll, well sorry to go all playground on you but you insulted me first.

I was merely stating my opinion which has been misinterpreted and I tried to clarify what I meant.

[MADDOGGE]

Originally Posted by Nerv322

Sorry I assumed you was calling me a troll, so I apologize for what I said.

If you were calling me a troll, well sorry to go all playground on you but you insulted me first.

I was merely stating my opinion which has been misinterpreted and I tried to clarify what I meant.

It's cool. No wasn't referring to you but the original post. No problem.

[teamfortless]

Sounds like people are crying because they didn't solve the game in few hours at the first time, not to mention the second.
you can't deny it, the basic game IS very easy. advanced chambers are for those who want some difficulty to game. those require some agility and THINKING WITH THE PORTALS.
black humor and story are the way to go for me.
lol at these people "VIDS OR IT DIDN't HAPPEN"