Marc Laidlaw [Writer for HL] Vault - Page 5

Sierra Oscar · 10-17-2009, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jinoru

Hopefully Neveos shuts up. I'm getting tired of contending with him.

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Originally Posted by barneyinblue

I think you should shut your mouth.

Easy, easy please.

surfrock22 · 10-17-2009, 03:24 PM

Jeeze, hostile around here lately..

Boff · 10-26-2009, 03:36 PM

i like that laidlaw practically states they had zero plans for the half life story after half life and didn't think of canon.

It has felt like that the canon started at HL2 and whatever they state happened at black mesa, was whate "really" happened, and not what we played.

It's not as if J.R.R.Tolkien did have the same problem.

The hobbit may have been set in Middle Earth, but the first "edition" clashed dramatically with the events of Lord of the Rings, and had to be settled with later additions, and then a backstory was shoehorned into the hobbit in the guise of appendices of the Return of The King, thus giving a true context of Elrond and Gandalf plotting to get rid of smaug so Sauron didn't have a dragon in a days flight of Rivendel when they sensed he power on the grow.

There is even theory that Tolkien dismisses inaccuracies of the hobbit as it's all written from bilbo's experience, so what went on was completley subjective.
Hence the elves being radically different from LOTR to the hobbit, and the events of how bilbo got the ring, and his initial journey to rivendell, seeing the rock giants.
All of which is entirely subjective and maybe exagerated in bilbo's written accounts.

We could say the same here with Freeman.
Since when He dies, we get an end of a file, like we just saw the end of a documentary.
So maybe this re-creation of Gordons journey is a little spruced up for the viewers of the said documentary.
You know with Black mesa being nukes, details and facts are very sketchy, so a lot of it was made up.
They could only really be certain of Barney, Vance, Kliener and magnasson being staff members there, so they had to recreate the entire facility with their likenesses.
and the actual floor plans were innacurate hence rooms overlapping with outside environments innacturately etcetc.

Gordon He-Man · 10-26-2009, 04:16 PM

Guys, I wouldn't get TOO hung-up on what Laidlaw states...he is, after all, responding to (mainly) Half Life fanatics.
...and MAGIC cannot exist without MISDIRECTION...

...just a thought.

Jinoru · 10-26-2009, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Boff

There is even theory that Tolkien dismisses inaccuracies of the hobbit as it's all written from bilbo's experience, so what went on was completley subjective.
Hence the elves being radically different from LOTR to the hobbit, and the events of how bilbo got the ring, and his initial journey to rivendell, seeing the rock giants.
All of which is entirely subjective and maybe exagerated in bilbo's written accounts.

I remember in Fellowship of the Ring Bilbo changed his story alot when He told it so yeah.

I'm used to not being surprised when stuff happens in HL2 that could be related to HL1.

mimaz98 · 10-26-2009, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon He-Man

Guys, I wouldn't get TOO hung-up on what Laidlaw states...he is, after all, responding to (mainly) Half Life fanatics.
...and MAGIC cannot exist without MISDIRECTION...

...just a thought.

Likewise, I don't think there's any reason to discredit it.

Boff · 10-28-2009, 03:50 AM

but you can't credit it 100%, otherwise you have to account, barney clones, special forces with cloaking devices(which we surmarised to they didn't cloak they just hid from gordons percieved vission.
My view of cannon has been whatever the HL2 series tells me what happened in HL1, (even if I REALLY don't like it and there has been some instances, such as Eli himself when he was introduced, that suddenly one of the multiple clones has a specific face and name, (same with barney actually). The exlusion of various weapons.
The combine themselves, just suddenly appearing.
I didn't like the city17 concept in the begining. There were lots of things that I've grown to like and adore over the years but initially it wasn't half life (black mesa)

mimaz98 · 10-28-2009, 04:24 AM

Whatever the HL2 series tells you. I think that's a reasonable perspective to take.

maturin · 10-28-2009, 08:31 AM

Laidlaw tells us stuff out of character, which means it is credible. If he responded in snippets of letters, memorandums and quotes, we would have to read it critically.

slayer20 · 11-13-2009, 05:53 PM

Email I got from Marc.

Mine:

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Hello Marc! I would be very happy if you could answer this question.

In Half-Life, the Vortigaunts were slaves to Nihilanth. My question is this, were they mind controlled by Nihilanth?

I ask this because Nihilanth was on the run from the Combine, right? If he had mind controlling abilites then why couldn't he control the Combine?

If Nihilanth didn't have mind control powers, how did he get the Vortigaunts to obey his command? What did he do to the Vortigaunts to get them to obey him, that the Combine can't?

Or are we not seeing these controlled Vortigaunts that the Combine have? Will we see enemy Vortigaunts?

I don't know if you can answer this question, but I really hope you have something for us fans.

Thanks.

Marc's:

Quote:

Hello, ******,

The vortigaunts were related to the Nilhilanth, as indicated by their vestigial chest-arms, which is why it had a particular ability to control them. The Nih., the alien grunts and the vorts were all from the same world. That doesn't mean there aren't enemy vortigaunts however. Pretty much everything you encounter in the Combine's domain potentially exists in a Combine-coopted and a natural, non-coopted form.

Yours,

Marc Laidlaw

So does that mean that there are possible Vortigaunt enemy slaves?

mimaz98 · 11-13-2009, 06:57 PM

Quite possibly. Thanks for the contribution Slayer! I've been hoping for some. I'll place it with the rest.

slayer20 · 11-13-2009, 09:00 PM

Anytime mimaz :3

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10-17-2009, 03:24 PM	#62
surfrock22 Join Date: Mar 2008 Reputation: 137 Posts: 3,283	Jeeze, hostile around here lately..

10-26-2009, 03:36 PM	#63
Boff Join Date: Aug 2005 Reputation: 61 Posts: 1,685	i like that laidlaw practically states they had zero plans for the half life story after half life and didn't think of canon. It has felt like that the canon started at HL2 and whatever they state happened at black mesa, was whate "really" happened, and not what we played. It's not as if J.R.R.Tolkien did have the same problem. The hobbit may have been set in Middle Earth, but the first "edition" clashed dramatically with the events of Lord of the Rings, and had to be settled with later additions, and then a backstory was shoehorned into the hobbit in the guise of appendices of the Return of The King, thus giving a true context of Elrond and Gandalf plotting to get rid of smaug so Sauron didn't have a dragon in a days flight of Rivendel when they sensed he power on the grow. There is even theory that Tolkien dismisses inaccuracies of the hobbit as it's all written from bilbo's experience, so what went on was completley subjective. Hence the elves being radically different from LOTR to the hobbit, and the events of how bilbo got the ring, and his initial journey to rivendell, seeing the rock giants. All of which is entirely subjective and maybe exagerated in bilbo's written accounts. We could say the same here with Freeman. Since when He dies, we get an end of a file, like we just saw the end of a documentary. So maybe this re-creation of Gordons journey is a little spruced up for the viewers of the said documentary. You know with Black mesa being nukes, details and facts are very sketchy, so a lot of it was made up. They could only really be certain of Barney, Vance, Kliener and magnasson being staff members there, so they had to recreate the entire facility with their likenesses. and the actual floor plans were innacurate hence rooms overlapping with outside environments innacturately etcetc.

10-26-2009, 04:16 PM	#64
Gordon He-Man Join Date: Aug 2005 Reputation: 100 Posts: 671	Guys, I wouldn't get TOO hung-up on what Laidlaw states...he is, after all, responding to (mainly) Half Life fanatics. ...and MAGIC cannot exist without MISDIRECTION... ...just a thought.

10-28-2009, 03:50 AM	#67
Boff Join Date: Aug 2005 Reputation: 61 Posts: 1,685	but you can't credit it 100%, otherwise you have to account, barney clones, special forces with cloaking devices(which we surmarised to they didn't cloak they just hid from gordons percieved vission. My view of cannon has been whatever the HL2 series tells me what happened in HL1, (even if I REALLY don't like it and there has been some instances, such as Eli himself when he was introduced, that suddenly one of the multiple clones has a specific face and name, (same with barney actually). The exlusion of various weapons. The combine themselves, just suddenly appearing. I didn't like the city17 concept in the begining. There were lots of things that I've grown to like and adore over the years but initially it wasn't half life (black mesa)

10-28-2009, 04:24 AM	#68
mimaz98 Join Date: Oct 2006 Reputation: 518 Posts: 17,032	Whatever the HL2 series tells you. I think that's a reasonable perspective to take.

10-28-2009, 08:31 AM	#69
maturin Join Date: Apr 2009 Reputation: 62 Posts: 501	Laidlaw tells us stuff out of character, which means it is credible. If he responded in snippets of letters, memorandums and quotes, we would have to read it critically.

11-13-2009, 06:57 PM	#71
mimaz98 Join Date: Oct 2006 Reputation: 518 Posts: 17,032	Quite possibly. Thanks for the contribution Slayer! I've been hoping for some. I'll place it with the rest.

11-13-2009, 09:00 PM	#72
slayer20 Join Date: Jun 2005 Reputation: 28 Posts: 1,996	Anytime mimaz :3