Half-Life 2: Episode 3 RELEASE DATE INFO

[Jinoru]

I figured my wording was unique. guess not...
oh well. L4D2 demo's pretty sweet.

[mimaz98]

Ah, that does indeed remind me. I must send into them my impressions of the demo.

[surfrock22]

I still think they've been making a new engine. I'll continue to think that, until proven otherwise.

Also, our goal here should not be to disprove theories. It should be to provide useful and insightful information, as Mimaz has provided. "I told you so" doesn't get anyone anywhere.

[supernaut]

Originally Posted by surfrock22

I still think they've been making a new engine. I'll continue to think that, until proven otherwise.

They are improving an engine, but even I understand, with my limited knowledge, that they can't keep updating it forever. Valve has different goals though, different from teams like id Software, Epic Games or Crytek. While they need to do an overhaul to Source at some point, in order to compete with the AAA titles of the future, they work at their own pace, keeping their eyes on our system specs, changes in the industry and will act according to those changes. And if Valve sees the need to rip the gaming world another ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ by taking things to another level, like they did in 2004, then they will. What I like about them is that they don't play catch-up, they bring it, if that is necessary.

Originally Posted by surfrock22

Also, our goal here should not be to disprove theories. It should be to provide useful and insightful information, as Mimaz has provided. "I told you so" doesn't get anyone anywhere.

You can quote me, don't be shy. My goal certainly wasn't to belittle you in some way, I just wanted to give you a smack of reality, so to speak. And how wasn't our debate useful and insightful ? Two completely different opinions, in search of truth, and everyone who witnessed it can draw their own conclusions and make their own theories about it. And this time it was concluded by an email reply, which Mimaz provided us, with the word "No". What is sad though, about coming to the Episode 2 forum, is looking at people discussing NOTHING! Impossible, nonexistent things, like Arkane Studios assisting Valve in developing Episode 3 or the desire to see iron sights in Episode 3 or that Half-Life 3 is already in development and so on and so on. In the end it's a complete and utter waste of time, no matter how useful and insightful it may seem. While there's no need to discuss something, just for the sake of having something to discuss, it's fine, cos it keeps the forums going. It's just that moments like these make me wonder why am I on the internet at all and typing this ♥♥♥♥.

Don't take any of this to heart, cos it's just my opinion, only words among the millions of useless comments posted every single minute.

[surfrock22]

Originally Posted by supernaut

They are improving an engine, but even I understand, with my limited knowledge, that they can't keep updating it forever. Valve has different goals though, different from teams like id Software, Epic Games or Crytek. While they need to do an overhaul to Source at some point, in order to compete with the AAA titles of the future, they work at their own pace, keeping their eyes on our system specs, changes in the industry and will act according to those changes. And if Valve sees the need to rip the gaming world another ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ by taking things to another level, like they did in 2004, then they will. What I like about them is that they don't play catch-up, they bring it, if that is necessary.



You can quote me, don't be shy. My goal certainly wasn't to belittle you in some way, I just wanted to give you a smack of reality, so to speak. And how wasn't our debate useful and insightful ? Two completely different opinions, in search of truth, and everyone who witnessed it can draw their own conclusions and make their own theories about it. And this time it was concluded by an email reply, which Mimaz provided us, with the word "No". What is sad though, about coming to the Episode 2 forum, is looking at people discussing NOTHING! Impossible, nonexistent things, like Arkane Studios assisting Valve in developing Episode 3 or the desire to see iron sights in Episode 3 or that Half-Life 3 is already in development and so on and so on. In the end it's a complete and utter waste of time, no matter how useful and insightful it may seem. While there's no need to discuss something, just for the sake of having something to discuss, it's fine, cos it keeps the forums going. It's just that moments like these make me wonder why am I on the internet at all and typing this ♥♥♥♥.

Don't take any of this to heart, cos it's just my opinion, only words among the millions of useless comments posted every single minute.

I was not being shy, I thought it was quite obvious that there was no need to quote. There are a very limited number of users who frequent these forums.

Also: a smack of reality? Lol, as if you knew for a fact that HL3 was not being made. Give me a break man, you are just as much in the dark about all of this lack of information as I am, and your speculation is no more valid.

My only point is that nothing should be dismissed until otherwise proven. You don't have to like it, and I'm not trying to "debunk" any of your all-knowing-God-sent speculation. It's just counterproductive and pointless, to be quite honest, to tell others that their speculation is wrong or ridiculous when you have no idea if what you believe is true..

Back on topic, I wonder when the next engine will surface..

[supernaut]

Originally Posted by surfrock22

...as if you knew for a fact that HL3 was not being made. Give me a break man, you are just as much in the dark about all of this lack of information as I am, and your speculation is no more valid.

I was 99.9% sure that HL3 was not being made. I went by logic and facts, nothing less nothing more, and I don't need a reason for the lack of information to realize that no other HL title is in the works or being morphed into something bigger. I know I must sound incredibly cocky when I say that, but with the simple use of logic (200 people, number of games in development since HL2), it was never a possibility.

Originally Posted by surfrock22

My only point is that nothing should be dismissed until otherwise proven.

In general, yes, but not in this case. For something to be proven to be true, it must first be proven to be plausible. If Valve had, lets say, 300-500 people on their development staff and the same amount of projects in the works, then it definitely becomes plausible, but then we'd have to ask if it makes sense. Like I said, it all comes down to manpower and what's physically possible. Game developers are not miracle workers.

Originally Posted by surfrock22

You don't have to like it, and I'm not trying to "debunk" any of your all-knowing-God-sent speculation. It's just counterproductive and pointless, to be quite honest, to tell others that their speculation is wrong or ridiculous when you have no idea if what you believe is true..

My speculation is not godsend, it arrives by FedEx. But seriously, I love debating with you. There I said it. At least there's an intelligent person opposite of me, unlike when debating with our two renowned forum members who're engulfed by their egos. And I didn't flat out tell you that "you are wrong", you gotta give me more credit than that. Based on logic, facts and history, I have a pretty good idea what can and can not be true about Valve.

[mimaz98]

Originally Posted by supernaut

I was 99.9% sure that HL3 was not being made. I went by logic and facts, nothing less nothing more, and I don't need a reason for the lack of information to realize that no other HL title is in the works or being morphed into something bigger. I know I must sound incredibly cocky when I say that, but with the simple use of logic (200 people, number of games in development since HL2), it was never a possibility.

Sorry, Surfrock, but I must agree with this.

[surfrock22]

Originally Posted by supernaut

I was 99.9% sure that HL3 was not being made. I went by logic and facts, nothing less nothing more, and I don't need a reason for the lack of information to realize that no other HL title is in the works or being morphed into something bigger. I know I must sound incredibly cocky when I say that, but with the simple use of logic (200 people, number of games in development since HL2), it was never a possibility.



In general, yes, but not in this case. For something to be proven to be true, it must first be proven to be plausible. If Valve had, lets say, 300-500 people on their development staff and the same amount of projects in the works, then it definitely becomes plausible, but then we'd have to ask if it makes sense. Like I said, it all comes down to manpower and what's physically possible. Game developers are not miracle workers.



My speculation is not godsend, it arrives by FedEx. But seriously, I love debating with you. There I said it. At least there's an intelligent person opposite of me, unlike when debating with our two renowned forum members who're engulfed by their egos. And I didn't flat out tell you that "you are wrong", you gotta give me more credit than that. Based on logic, facts and history, I have a pretty good idea what can and can not be true about Valve.

I appreciate this, thanks.

99.99%? And what number is this based off of?

And, no, you were not telling me flat out that I was wrong.

Originally Posted by mimaz98

Sorry, Surfrock, but I must agree with this.

Let's be honest. You only agree with it because he used the word cocky and was blistering with arrogance.

[mimaz98]

No, I'm agreeing with it because I agree with it.

[supernaut]

Originally Posted by surfrock22

I appreciate this, thanks.

You're welcome.

Originally Posted by surfrock22

99.99%? And what number is this based off of?

Just a random figure to represent that I wasn't completely sure.

Originally Posted by surfrock22

And, no, you were not telling me flat out that I was wrong.

I appreciate that.

Originally Posted by surfrock22

Let's be honest. You only agree with it because he used the word cocky and was blistering with arrogance.

Haha, well I try to be as honest as I can.

[surfrock22]

Originally Posted by mimaz98

No, I'm agreeing with it because I agree with it.

It was just a joke, bud. I'm sure you agree with it.

Back on topic, I'm sure Valve has at least been planning, for some time (years), what is to come post-Source..

[mimaz98]

They've certainly got their eyes on Larrabee.

[Barney]

Originally Posted by mimaz98

They've certainly got their eyes on Larrabee.

Yes, I do hope Mr. Newell et al will usher in a new era of gaming using Larrabee.

Can you imagine Half-Life 3 or whatever running on a Larrabee? *creams pants*

[supernaut]

Originally Posted by mimaz98

They've certainly got their eyes on Larrabee.

Where was this said ?

[Kohvi]

Originally Posted by supernaut

Where was this said ?

http://forums.steampowered.com/forum...light=larrabee
So Larrabee or something like that.