New to gothic 2, a few questions

[insanity99]

I love this game but it kicks my ♥♥♥ lol.

First of all do you use gothic 1 controls or gothic 2?

Also, i handed in a thief and now some guy is trying to kill me, he told me to meet behind a fish shop, he is far too strong for me so I had to run. I am guessing he's from the theirs guild?

Originally Posted by insanity99

I love this game but it kicks my ♥♥♥ lol.

First of all do you use gothic 1 controls or gothic 2?

Also, i handed in a thief and now some guy is trying to kill me, he told me to meet behind a fish shop, he is far too strong for me so I had to run. I am guessing he's from the theirs guild?

Hello there!

I use Gothic 2 controls but I have to add that I am playing with the keyboard only. I got used to that when playing Gothic 1 or 2, dont ask me how or why but it works out great for me.

The guy waiting for you behind a fish shop is a real pain in the ♥♥♥♥. His name is Atilla and you are right, he was sent to kill you for turning in some guy to the local militia. You can encounter him fairly quick in the game, depending on when you turn in some criminals. Since you can do that from the very beginning and as soon as you are able to enter the city... Lets just say you either need a lot of luck or ALOT more levels to defeat Atilla. There is a little hint I can offer though:

Buy 1 or 2 scrolls from Zuris. He is somewhere near the market in the city. The scrolls you should look out for are the ones with a freezing effect. Once the evil Hitman is frozen, you should be able to defeat him quite easily even with a tiny weapon. 1 scroll was sufficient for me

[insanity99]

thanks, i will try gothic 2 controls. how to i choose to attack in differnt directions?

very strange thing, i went back to atilla and he was dead! i have no idea what happened to him though, he had a key on him though, im guessing i need to go to the sea to look for a door, considering its got so must sea rust.

[in.meinem.turm.]

Originally Posted by insanity99

thanks, i will try gothic 2 controls. how to i choose to attack in differnt directions?

very strange thing, i went back to atilla and he was dead! i have no idea what happened to him though, he had a key on him though, im guessing i need to go to the sea to look for a door, considering its got so must sea rust.

well depending on how you treat the members of the guild in town Attila either gives you the key or you have to fight him. It does not matter how you get the key if you find the right door and the guild you will get the offer to join it. Maybe you should actually do that.

[insanity99]

thanks, i've joined the guild. still trying to find out what happened to the missing people. the leaser of the guild said to swim somewhere for the answer, i swam and found a pirate sitting on a beach, is it something to do with him or am i in the wrong place?

[X4rdas]

yes he has something to do with it... but i think he wont tell you much.
The game is very hard for someone who never played a gothic game before. Maybe you want to set down the difficulty from hard to normal. here is a little tool that can help you:
http://forums.steampowered.com/forum...0#post19891820

[insanity99]

thanks i might check that out.

seems skip wont talk to me because i'm in the militia, cant i do that quest now?

[X4rdas]

There are many places in Khorinis where you can find out something about the missing people. What level are you? Can you can beat up a few bandits already? Than go visit the cave behind akils farm. You'll find out something about the illegal weapon delivery for the bandits. Theses two quests are linked together.

http://worldofgothic.de/sigs/nachtwa...eakilshof1.jpg

Or if you are not strong enough, do all kind of little quests you find, you'll find many hinds to the missing people soon.

And i think as a beginner its better to switch the difficulty to normal. The steam version has the addon installed. That makes the game realy hard and can be frustrating, espaccialy for beginners. With the tool you can set the difficulty to what it was before the addon. Thats tough enough for the first playthrough i guess.

[insanity99]

thanks for the help. i will see what the normal difficulty is like.

i am level 5.

[Jashin]

Don't do what the guy above said, that's basically a trainer, it's cheating and can make the game not challenging at all. You can get better, this game's in fact skill-based so for example I can beat the orc scout at the beginning with a rotten stick.

Here, read this survival guide instead.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/561413-gothic-ii/faqs/27856

It'll teach you how to bind keys for potion, quick save, and a few other how-to stuff.

[insanity99]

oh cool quick save, thanks.

[Robinhood90]

Gothic 2 gold is hard, because the expansion was kinda aimed at those who had already played Gothic 2. I recommend playing original gothic 2 first, and then play with expansion pack. Gothic 2 is also a bit more balanced, although the difficulty will take a noticeable drop in the end if you go and kill everything.

So, Notr. Get as much xp as possible. Only invest in either 1handed melee or 2handed melee (the dialouge you train in both was only true in G2). training atrributes will increase in lp cost, so try to save permanent bonuses for later (most unbalanced as early use will make increasing them very expensive, and saving them will make it hard at first, but alot easier afterwards if you save them and use them late).
When getting to second chapter, I advise first pursuing the stuff about the missing townspeople. Get as much xp and when you hit the wall there, then do the task given by Lord Hagen.
(I am being cryptic to avoid any spoilers, yet you should understand what I mean when you get there).

Learn how to fight.
If you try to strike to quickly you will stop the attack. You need to time, so do one strike, wait for the right moment, then strike again (just try it out in the air until you get it right, and can smoothly execute the strikes). - Move around if enemies try to surround you. I like to have (on wasd) a as strafe left, and d as strafe right.

Pick up all items you can find, and learn how to pick locks + skin animals. Being apprentice at Bosper's will give you good price for skins. Scrolls are useful, especially ice block but they have a limited supply so use them carefully. Especially summon demon should be saved for very hard fights. Also the potion that makes you run fast can be extremely useful against some enemies (or just eat the snapperweed), or just to get past a certain location.
Hint: Running potion is very ideal to get within a certain castle (unless you know the safe way).

[in.meinem.turm.]

Originally Posted by Robinhood90

Gothic 2 gold is hard, because the expansion was kinda aimed at those who had already played Gothic 2. I recommend playing original gothic 2 first

Too bad you cannot choose to do so with the steam version.

[Robinhood90]

Originally Posted by in.meinem.turm.

Too bad you cannot choose to do so with the steam version.

It's same for all gold versions. Also the good thing is it adds more content to the game world, but difficulty may be a bit hard for beginners.

However it's quite manegable if you develop your character well.
I'll take an example on what you can do:
Step1: train 1-handed to 29 and learn how to skin animals (Bosper the bowyer can teach that).
Step2: make sure you have 5 lp and train one-handed to 34 in 1-handed. Originally level 31, 32 .... would cost 2lp, but you only spend 1lp per point aslong as you current skill is less than 30. Use this for all other attributes aswell, also note that once you reach attribute level 60, you have to spend 3lp per point, 4lp's when you reach 90 and so on.
Step3: train strength to 34 using same method, and learn how to pick locks.
Step4:continue training strength and 1-handed, and you can optionally learn sneak and pickpocket, and additional hunting skills. Train strength and 1-handed to 64 each using the same method.
Step5:You should now spend lp in learning to read runes, and also learn to make strength potion (requires you to know learn one basic potion first). To make strength potion you need dragonroots (so save them for this), and a kings sorrel. These upgrades will give permanent bonuses (+3), and since strength now is expensive the 20lp the skill costs pays off very well.

Extra:If you went with the militia, you should train mana to 34 before using permanent bonus items to increase it, as knigths gets magical runes. As a mercenary you will eventually be able to forge the best swords (applies for both 1handed and 2handed), and they give +10 in their weapon profficiency, so don't train 1-handed past 90%. If you get spare lp and feel it's going well you may train with bow/xbow if you chose mercenary path, but otherwise I wouldn't bother with it, and rather put it in higher strength and 1handed skill.

So, don't eat dragonroots and kings sorrel, you need them for strength potions. If you chose militia path, save mushrooms as these give mana upgrades that you want to do after you've trained mana to 34, and you should not train that in the beginning as it's only really useful when you become a knight.
You can also do 2-hander, difference isn't to large, but 1-hander is easier in the beginning (which is where you'll need it the most).
So basically get up your strength and 1-handed fast, and try to save the permanent bonuses until you reach step5, so don't train strength potion or read runes before that.


Improving Graphics

There's a very good (quite new) texture pack, that also does some mesh upgrades. Some of the vegetation is now much more dense and realistic/good looking (like farm crops). It generally looks quite a bit more lush, and the textures are of a higher quality.
It's on World of Gothic: http://forum.worldofplayers.de/foru/...d.php?t=903453

Also you can (atleast with a newer graphics driver), make the graphics card apply AA, and similar even though the game does not originally support it. I have a 6870 card, and running Gothic 2 with:
- 8x anti aliasing with edge detect (24 samples).
- 16x anistrophic filtering
- High quality texture filtering (no specifics on what they define as HQ)
- Anti aliasing mode is set to adaptive multi sample
Cut short, the game looks far better and together with the texture mod the world is very beautiful.
Your graphics card should have a control panel, and there select 3D. There you should be able to set these things.