Blackstaff mission shows how broken Stronghold 3 is.

Crawdaddy79 · 02-26-2012, 05:01 AM

After all the patches there are still some serious flaws in how the game plays.

1. The very first enemy you encounter, on a hill, can't be touched by your archers until you run through half the valley, and by then at least two of your soldiers are dead. [EDIT: Normally, this would make sense, except there is actually less line of sight in the middle of the valley than there is further away.]

2. Grouping seems absolutely necessary. I tried and there is no audio/visual indication that your grouping attempt was successful. It does work, though. However...

3. Groups aren't remembered in save games (a serious WTF). I reloaded after my entire group of peasants were wiped out by traps only to find that I'll have to separate everyone into the 5 groups I previously created all over again.

4. Sometimes when you tell your archers to attack, they say "ALRIGHT SIRE" and they just sit there, getting rained on by enemy archers. Also, sometimes telling them to attack (and they audibly confirm to you that the command was accepted) interrupts their movement entirely.

I think I really gave this game a fair shot. I was able to enjoy it somewhat for the first five missions, dealing with little bugs and other issues that took little away from the game. The Blackstaff mission though, grabs my head by the hair and grinds my face into everything I was trying to ignore previously. I quit.

zxdragon777 · 02-26-2012, 08:48 AM

this is a seriously bugged game , it crashes for no reason and you have to start again from scratch or try saving every few minutes so annyoying . Your units fail to carry out your commands and you end up losing half your units before you even realise they are not attacking or going to where they were sent . I'm sorry but for the money Firefly have charged for this game it needs some serious patching and game testing as i'm doing the inbuilt missions and it's full of bugs and crashes so they have obviously just thrown it out with little or no testing . even when purchased at half price ( wish i hadn't wasted my money and time ) . I hope this thread is left on as this is a complaint that the game has been released far to early or should we only buy games that have been out for at least a year . I wish i had read the forums prior to my purchase i would have definately not purchased this game until i read that it had been sorted out . I am so annoyed because i really liked the first 2 of this series and quite liked the storyline quests but am so disappointed on Stronghold3 not because it's a bad game just between the bugs and crashing whilst playing makes it awful , and i only bought it after 2 patches had come out i wonder how bad it was when first released . Anyway i hope the developer manages to sort these problems out and beneath the surface is a really good enjoyable game .
Hope this post helps people make an informed decision
Cheers to everyone out there happy gaming
Andrew

Achilleslastand · 02-26-2012, 10:23 AM

Both of you fellas should have consulted me before throwing your money away on this half baked pc game.

Levi · 02-26-2012, 04:58 PM

Geez, its still that bad off? I'm starting to wonder if it'll ever be playable. My 50 dollars I spent are looking pretty wasted right now.

Crawdaddy79 · 03-01-2012, 02:55 PM

Looks like I'm going to have to wait for the next patch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-o1xlE506A

stronger · 03-01-2012, 04:55 PM

If you use the new Attack/Move and click to the left of them on the flat ground do your archers move ?

Crawdaddy79 · 03-01-2012, 05:53 PM

It works, but I'd still like to be able to click "attack" and have my archers attack.

Then again, they would only attack the one guy clicked on anyway, so it's probably best to attack-move everywhere. Do you have plans to add a button on the interface to be like a toggle switch?

Also wouldn't mind a help screen in the tutorial book that lists all the controls/hotkeys. Not able to figure out how to enable freelook mode. Is this not available in the SP campaign?

FireFlyNick · 03-02-2012, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crawdaddy79

It works, but I'd still like to be able to click "attack" and have my archers attack.

Then again, they would only attack the one guy clicked on anyway, so it's probably best to attack-move everywhere. Do you have plans to add a button on the interface to be like a toggle switch?

Also wouldn't mind a help screen in the tutorial book that lists all the controls/hotkeys. Not able to figure out how to enable freelook mode. Is this not available in the SP campaign?

Thanks for the suggestions, I will pass them on for you.

In the meantime you can find a print-friendly list of keyboard shortcuts here:

http://www.fireflyworlds.com/index.p...500&Itemid=347

Crawdaddy79 · 03-07-2012, 05:21 PM

Could you (or someone) maybe add the free look hotkey to that list?

I only just now found it mentioned on the news updates on your main site, that it's Alt + F to "unlock" it.

Any plans to add a waypoint system so we can move troops around obstacles without having to babysit them?

Am I being unreasonable for expecting these things?

Levi · 03-07-2012, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crawdaddy79

Am I being unreasonable for expecting these things?

Only as unreasonable as I am for expecting my buildings not to randomly stop working while fully staffed.

I wish refunds were possible. After 4 months of waiting the game shouldn't be in this state.

02-26-2012, 05:01 AM	#1
Crawdaddy79 Join Date: Aug 2007 Reputation: 17 Posts: 27	Blackstaff mission shows how broken Stronghold 3 is. After all the patches there are still some serious flaws in how the game plays. 1. The very first enemy you encounter, on a hill, can't be touched by your archers until you run through half the valley, and by then at least two of your soldiers are dead. [EDIT: Normally, this would make sense, except there is actually less line of sight in the middle of the valley than there is further away.] 2. Grouping seems absolutely necessary. I tried and there is no audio/visual indication that your grouping attempt was successful. It does work, though. However... 3. Groups aren't remembered in save games (a serious WTF). I reloaded after my entire group of peasants were wiped out by traps only to find that I'll have to separate everyone into the 5 groups I previously created all over again. 4. Sometimes when you tell your archers to attack, they say "ALRIGHT SIRE" and they just sit there, getting rained on by enemy archers. Also, sometimes telling them to attack (and they audibly confirm to you that the command was accepted) interrupts their movement entirely. I think I really gave this game a fair shot. I was able to enjoy it somewhat for the first five missions, dealing with little bugs and other issues that took little away from the game. The Blackstaff mission though, grabs my head by the hair and grinds my face into everything I was trying to ignore previously. I quit. Last edited by Crawdaddy79: 02-26-2012 at 05:19 AM.

02-26-2012, 08:48 AM	#2
zxdragon777 Join Date: Feb 2012 Reputation: 0 Posts: 3	Stronghold3 bugged all over the place this is a seriously bugged game , it crashes for no reason and you have to start again from scratch or try saving every few minutes so annyoying . Your units fail to carry out your commands and you end up losing half your units before you even realise they are not attacking or going to where they were sent . I'm sorry but for the money Firefly have charged for this game it needs some serious patching and game testing as i'm doing the inbuilt missions and it's full of bugs and crashes so they have obviously just thrown it out with little or no testing . even when purchased at half price ( wish i hadn't wasted my money and time ) . I hope this thread is left on as this is a complaint that the game has been released far to early or should we only buy games that have been out for at least a year . I wish i had read the forums prior to my purchase i would have definately not purchased this game until i read that it had been sorted out . I am so annoyed because i really liked the first 2 of this series and quite liked the storyline quests but am so disappointed on Stronghold3 not because it's a bad game just between the bugs and crashing whilst playing makes it awful , and i only bought it after 2 patches had come out i wonder how bad it was when first released . Anyway i hope the developer manages to sort these problems out and beneath the surface is a really good enjoyable game . Hope this post helps people make an informed decision Cheers to everyone out there happy gaming Andrew

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02-26-2012, 10:23 AM	#3
Achilleslastand Join Date: Apr 2010 Reputation: 26 Posts: 83	Both of you fellas should have consulted me before throwing your money away on this half baked pc game.

02-26-2012, 04:58 PM	#4
Levi Join Date: Oct 2009 Reputation: 3239 Posts: 8,266	Geez, its still that bad off? I'm starting to wonder if it'll ever be playable. My 50 dollars I spent are looking pretty wasted right now.

03-01-2012, 02:55 PM	#5
Crawdaddy79 Join Date: Aug 2007 Reputation: 17 Posts: 27	Looks like I'm going to have to wait for the next patch. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-o1xlE506A

03-01-2012, 04:55 PM	#6
stronger FireFly Studios Join Date: Oct 2011 Reputation: 4 Posts: 147	If you use the new Attack/Move and click to the left of them on the flat ground do your archers move ?

03-01-2012, 05:53 PM	#7
Crawdaddy79 Join Date: Aug 2007 Reputation: 17 Posts: 27	It works, but I'd still like to be able to click "attack" and have my archers attack. Then again, they would only attack the one guy clicked on anyway, so it's probably best to attack-move everywhere. Do you have plans to add a button on the interface to be like a toggle switch? Also wouldn't mind a help screen in the tutorial book that lists all the controls/hotkeys. Not able to figure out how to enable freelook mode. Is this not available in the SP campaign?

03-07-2012, 05:21 PM	#9
Crawdaddy79 Join Date: Aug 2007 Reputation: 17 Posts: 27	Could you (or someone) maybe add the free look hotkey to that list? I only just now found it mentioned on the news updates on your main site, that it's Alt + F to "unlock" it. Any plans to add a waypoint system so we can move troops around obstacles without having to babysit them? Am I being unreasonable for expecting these things?