Minor buff to the Loch-n-Load

[Apulaite]

Critical projectiles bounce off surfaces
Critical projectiles deal normal damage if bounces off a surface

Aye or nay?

[iTay]

I always though that normal projectiles should explode upon hitting a surface, but maybe with less damage? I dunno. As it stands, Loch n Load isn't good enough.

[Maffis91]

Pointless buff IMO. Would only make it slightly better with a kritzkrieg medic since it has to be balanced for no-crit servers too.

I'd rather see a removal in the extra damage, except for 5%, done and self-damage, but adding 'reloads entire clip' at once.

So:
+25% projectile speed
Reloads 2 grenades at once
+5% extra damage (helps with soldiers)
Grenades shatter on impact on surfaces
-50% clip size

[Apulaite]

I improved the wording a bit if you didn't understand.

Maffis91, I think Loch-n-Load is almost balanced, but it needs this.

[srsrs123]

If it reloads entire clip, it should still do the same damage, because the ability to oneshot scouts/light classes is one of its main +'s, so maybe only +10% speed then.

[CloudCover]

Originally Posted by srsrs123

If it reloads entire clip, it should still do the same damage, because the ability to oneshot scouts/light classes is one of its main +'s, so maybe only +10% speed then.

But it can't consistantly one-shot light classes, so I think an extra 5% buff would be needed...maybe with slower projectile speed to balance the difficult dodging that scouts would have to do?

[Stryant]

Originally Posted by Maffis91

Pointless buff IMO. Would only make it slightly better with a kritzkrieg medic since it has to be balanced for no-crit servers too.

I'd rather see a removal in the extra damage, except for 5%, done and self-damage, but adding 'reloads entire clip' at once.

So:
+25% projectile speed
Reloads 2 grenades at once
+5% extra damage (helps with soldiers)
Grenades shatter on impact on surfaces
-50% clip size

actually the FaN style is all that's needed

who doesn't secretly like crippling/oneshotting scouts?

[Frankiller]

The reload animation has always been ♥♥♥♥ed up so yea... it would be the best thing to work on.

[gh0stf00t]

LnL is fine. Better than the regular stock imo.

Nothing is needed for that weapon.

[Morax]

I think lnl is in that sweet state of limbo where the community hasnt really agreed whether its up or op, i think its a fine sidegrade as it is.

[robly18]

I personally think the LnL is... Like an anticrutch. Instead of being good aganist fail players and bad aganist bad players it's pretty well balanced with both. I just think it needs the "reloads 2 grenades at once" buff, as the way it currently is is just too punishing for missing.

[Waaper]

Make a setting in the item inventory whether you want to have the grenade explode on impact or just chill around on the ground untill detonation, Do it valve That is all.


Edit: Yeah and the reload animation, seriously lol we get laugh taunts and sh*t, But no professionalism when it comes to 'weapon animations' shame on that item creator.

[Apulaite]

My suggestion?

[MeMyselfandI]

Originally Posted by gh0stf00t

LnL is fine. Better than the regular stock imo.

Nothing is needed for that weapon.

Agreed.