Are you a witness or a victim to the mass crash bug? I think I know how to fix it. - Page 2

seanj · 03-07-2012, 12:24 AM

I notice crashes in my case occur less frequently with low quality meshes. I'm too nervous about VAC to start adding things to the game. But I do think you're on to something here.

Valve should hand over the source code... seriously.

rainbow dash™ · 03-07-2012, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sabotage

Everypony is happy then

I always tried to avoid custom player models, but well, gotta' use this now.

HunkySquirrel · 03-07-2012, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by rowedahelicon

I've noticed that the custom models don't attach cosmetic items very well, this may be an issue.

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I've noticed that the custom models don't attach cosmetic items very well, this may be an issue.

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this may be an issue.

That IS the issue.

I have absolutely nothing equipped on any class and I have never crashed.

But oh well. Hats hats hats hats hats.
Hats hats.
Hats hats hats.

bubbles278 · 03-07-2012, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by HunkySquirrel

That IS the issue.

I have absolutely nothing equipped on any class and I have never crashed.

But oh well. Hats hats hats hats hats.
Hats hats.
Hats hats hats.

So is this proof that hats are in fact breaking the game?

Mr. Richardson · 03-07-2012, 01:30 AM

Rowdy..as in the Crux?

Anyways, you think that maybe it's a specific item that is causing the crashes? It seems like servers that crash continue to crash, so I'm thinking that these servers have a regular that happens to have the item causing the problem and doesn't realize it.

rowedahelicon · 03-07-2012, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Richardson

Rowdy..as in the Crux?

Anyways, you think that maybe it's a specific item that is causing the crashes? It seems like servers that crash continue to crash, so I'm thinking that these servers have a regular that happens to have the item causing the problem and doesn't realize it.

The one and only ;3

And be advised, a server crashing and a group of clients crashing are two different things. Like when it happens to us, 11/15 people will crash, the rest just keep playing

Chicken Hide · 03-07-2012, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by HunkySquirrel

That IS the issue.

I have absolutely nothing equipped on any class and I have never crashed.

But oh well. Hats hats hats hats hats.
Hats hats.
Hats hats hats.

I have all my equip slots filled, and I have never crashed.

mattyboyrocks23 · 03-07-2012, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rowedahelicon

It's been around as far as December at least. It seems to be a client issue when the server renders something that kills the engine.

Everytime I airshot? :/

nanosheep · 03-07-2012, 06:00 PM

So if hats and miscs are the problem, why do we keep adding more of them into the game?

HaveWingsCanFly · 03-07-2012, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by nanosheep

So if hats and miscs are the problem, why do we keep adding more of them into the game?

Sparkly.

Ponyville · 03-07-2012, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by nanosheep

So if hats and miscs are the problem, why do we keep adding more of them into the game?

People like the Rarity.

ungulateman · 03-07-2012, 06:42 PM

Changing hat styles tends to force crashes.

I had a curious round before where I was constantly on the edge of crashing, where the game would freeze up and jitter but start working again, then it finally crashed. Any ideas?

rowedahelicon · 03-08-2012, 04:59 PM

[7:33:39 PM] Rowdy: I
[7:33:39 PM] Rowdy: MAD
[7:33:40 PM] Rowdy: BRO
[7:35:30 PM] Fao: ?
[7:36:02 PM] Rowdy: : - Fixed a client crash that could occur when a server used SetCustomModel to change the player model
[7:36:12 PM] Rowdy: >Go on forums + Valve + server mail
[7:36:20 PM] Rowdy: Explain that custom models SAVE people from crashing
[7:36:26 PM] Rowdy: They fix a non existant problem.
[7:39:20 PM] Fao: Scumbag valve

Tony Paloma · 03-08-2012, 11:22 PM

The update that went out today addressed the mass crash bug. It was a little more technical than just servers using SetCustomModel, but it was what seemed to agitate it the most, so that's what we went with in the patch notes. For example, it was easily reproducible when a scout had its model changed to the pyro with SetCustomModel.

Using custom models would have worked around the crash if the custom models you were using all had the same number of flex weights.

The number of crash reports after today's update is about 75% less than the number of crash reports during the same period yesterday, so it seems to have made a big impact.

KingOfTeam · 03-08-2012, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony Paloma

The update that went out today addressed the mass crash bug. It was a little more technical than just servers using SetCustomModel, but it was what seemed to agitate it the most, so that's what we went with in the patch notes. For example, it was easily reproducible when a scout had its model changed to the pyro with SetCustomModel.

Using custom models would have worked around the crash if the custom models you were using all had the same number of flex weights.

The number of crash reports after today's update is about 75% less than the number of crash reports during the same period yesterday, so it seems to have made a big impact.

All praise the drunken fool! He is wise and clever!

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03-07-2012, 12:24 AM	#16
seanj Join Date: Jan 2007 Reputation: 71 Posts: 514	I notice crashes in my case occur less frequently with low quality meshes. I'm too nervous about VAC to start adding things to the game. But I do think you're on to something here. Valve should hand over the source code... seriously.

03-07-2012, 01:30 AM	#20
Mr. Richardson Join Date: Oct 2009 Reputation: 339 Posts: 2,458	Rowdy..as in the Crux? Anyways, you think that maybe it's a specific item that is causing the crashes? It seems like servers that crash continue to crash, so I'm thinking that these servers have a regular that happens to have the item causing the problem and doesn't realize it.

03-07-2012, 06:00 PM	#24
nanosheep Join Date: Jan 2008 Reputation: 3071 Posts: 12,409	So if hats and miscs are the problem, why do we keep adding more of them into the game?

03-07-2012, 06:42 PM	#27
ungulateman Join Date: Jan 2011 Reputation: 925 Posts: 5,268	Changing hat styles tends to force crashes. I had a curious round before where I was constantly on the edge of crashing, where the game would freeze up and jitter but start working again, then it finally crashed. Any ideas?

03-08-2012, 04:59 PM	#28
rowedahelicon Join Date: May 2009 Reputation: 210 Posts: 760	[7:33:39 PM] Rowdy: I [7:33:39 PM] Rowdy: MAD [7:33:40 PM] Rowdy: BRO [7:35:30 PM] Fao: ? [7:36:02 PM] Rowdy: : - Fixed a client crash that could occur when a server used SetCustomModel to change the player model [7:36:12 PM] Rowdy: >Go on forums + Valve + server mail [7:36:20 PM] Rowdy: Explain that custom models SAVE people from crashing [7:36:26 PM] Rowdy: They fix a non existant problem. [7:39:20 PM] Fao: Scumbag valve

03-08-2012, 11:22 PM	#29
Tony Paloma Valve Join Date: Aug 2011 Reputation: 1034 Posts: 105	The update that went out today addressed the mass crash bug. It was a little more technical than just servers using SetCustomModel, but it was what seemed to agitate it the most, so that's what we went with in the patch notes. For example, it was easily reproducible when a scout had its model changed to the pyro with SetCustomModel. Using custom models would have worked around the crash if the custom models you were using all had the same number of flex weights. The number of crash reports after today's update is about 75% less than the number of crash reports during the same period yesterday, so it seems to have made a big impact.