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Old 03-14-2012, 09:06 AM   #1
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Item sets

If you came expecting a rant about the Mann-Conomy and Australian Christmas set bonuses, you're in the wrong thread.

Recent sets, starting with the Uber Update and onward have all been 100% cosmetic. As per usual, each set was comprised of items that were intended to work together visually and were contributed by the same person (or group of people).

However, the most recent set is from 2 unassociated contributors who had no intentions of creating a themed outfit. This is where things get interesting, as Valve can retroactively enforce this sort of thing for other items that mesh well together, visually. Regardless if the items are created by the same people or not, there can be item sets that merely boast in the loadout descriptions "Hey world! I'm wearing my matching socks and underpants today!"

Some examples:
  • Grimm Hat + Blighted Beak
  • Nessie's Nine Iron + Tam O' Shanter
  • Horseless Headless Horsemann's Headtaker + Horseless Headless Horsemann's Head
  • Superfan + Essential Accessories
  • Chargin' Targe + Eyelander (originally referred to as the Close Combat Kit)
  • Hero's Tail + Sign of the Wolf's School + Three-Rune Blade
  • B.M.O.C. + All-Father + Kringle Collection + Festive Rocket Launcher
  • Industrial Festivizer + Stocking Stuffer + Festive Wrench
  • Dashin' Hashashin + Sharp Dresser
  • Dangeresque, Too? + Bounty Hat + Frying Pan + Chargin' Targe
  • Summer Hat + Flip Flops + Lucky No. 42
  • Widowmaker + Short Circuit + Deus Specs
And so on.

As you can tell, they could apply this sort of thing to past promotions (preferably ones with items that can still be obtained). I threw a few unlikely ones into the list of examples for the sake of example.

What do you guys think?
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Old 03-14-2012, 09:09 AM   #2
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What do you guys think?
Personally I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
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Old 03-14-2012, 09:13 AM   #3
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If they add more retroactive joke sets I'd like them to be purely cosmetic.
Things like the swashbuckler's swag look nice, but then you have silly people using peglegs, Scottish resistance, and Rum together.
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Old 03-14-2012, 09:14 AM   #4
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Private Eye
  • Contributed by: Sith Happens and Tasteekakes
  • Date added: April 7 2011

Nine-Pipe Problem
  • Contributed by: Mnemosynaut
  • Date added: March 8 2012

Together these items form the Eliminating the Impossible set. Wearing both of them together will grant the wearer 88% faster mystery solving*. The set itself is not visible until all of the items in the set are worn together.

*Purely satirical attributes that do nothing for gameplay.
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Old 03-14-2012, 09:15 AM   #5
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I'd like a few if they had some kind of minor cosmetic effect.

Also for a few of those, adding them as sets would make the items easier to craft. Hero's Tail would suddenly have a recipe.
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Old 03-14-2012, 09:15 AM   #6
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If they add more retroactive joke sets I'd like them to be purely cosmetic.
Things like the swashbuckler's swag look nice, but then you have silly people using peglegs, Scottish resistance, and Rum together.
That's exactly what I outlined: if they were to do this retroactively, all of them would be 100% cosmetic.
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Old 03-14-2012, 09:23 AM   #7
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That's exactly what I outlined: if they were to do this retroactively, all of them would be 100% cosmetic.
You suggested the use of specific weapons in your sets.
I'm saying take weapons out of the equation entirely and make them hat/misc based only.

I'd prefer people didn't use silly loadouts just because they complete a set.
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Old 03-14-2012, 09:27 AM   #8
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You suggested the use of specific weapons in your sets.
I'm saying take weapons out of the equation entirely and make them hat/misc based only.

I'd prefer people didn't use silly loadouts just because they complete a set.
If all weapons were abolished from sets, then we'd have a lot of sets of 1 item. That doesn't work at all.

People have been using silly loadouts since the dawn of item sets, just because of the set bonuses. Once set bonuses were no longer added, people were less inclined to use all of the items together unless they wanted to go to a costume party or something.

The purpose of the sets is to show that you have a matching outfit, if people allow their decision to be fashionable to get in the way of their weapon loadout, they have themselves to blame. It's all a conscious decision by the player.
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Old 03-14-2012, 09:31 AM   #9
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As...eh, amusing, as this would be, I think there's a lot more important things Valve should tend to.
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Old 03-14-2012, 09:33 AM   #10
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As...eh, amusing, as this would be, I think there's a lot more important things Valve should tend to.
Can't...+1...hard enough...
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Old 03-14-2012, 09:39 AM   #11
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Dangeresque, Too? + Bounty Hat + Frying Pan + Chargin' Targe
The Demopan
Chargin' Targe
Frying Pan
Dangeresque, Too?
Bounty Hat


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Old 03-14-2012, 09:46 AM   #12
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Ol' Snaggletooth, Crocodile Smile, Darwin's Danger Shield.

All from one animal!
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Old 03-14-2012, 11:34 AM   #13
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As...eh, amusing, as this would be, I think there's a lot more important things Valve should tend to.
I'm well aware that there are more pressing matters, there are still a host of bugs that should be addressed as well as several gameplay-related things that are not optimal.

It's a small novelty that should not hold a high priority. If the set attribute to be hidden wasn't a hard-coded attribute, I would submit a schema diff myself so it would save them the time of even needing to do that so they can instead focus on bugs and game improvements.

But I digress.
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Old 04-13-2012, 06:04 AM   #14
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If you came expecting a rant about the Mann-Conomy and Australian Christmas set bonuses, you're in the wrong thread.

Recent sets, starting with the Uber Update and onward have all been 100% cosmetic. As per usual, each set was comprised of items that were intended to work together visually and were contributed by the same person (or group of people).

However, the most recent set is from 2 unassociated contributors who had no intentions of creating a themed outfit. This is where things get interesting, as Valve can retroactively enforce this sort of thing for other items that mesh well together, visually. Regardless if the items are created by the same people or not, there can be item sets that merely boast in the loadout descriptions "Hey world! I'm wearing my matching socks and underpants today!"

Some examples:
  • Grimm Hat + Blighted Beak
  • Nessie's Nine Iron + Tam O' Shanter
  • Horseless Headless Horsemann's Headtaker + Horseless Headless Horsemann's Head
  • Superfan + Essential Accessories
  • Chargin' Targe + Eyelander (originally referred to as the Close Combat Kit)
  • Hero's Tail + Sign of the Wolf's School + Three-Rune Blade
  • B.M.O.C. + All-Father + Kringle Collection + Festive Rocket Launcher
  • Industrial Festivizer + Stocking Stuffer + Festive Wrench
  • Dashin' Hashashin + Sharp Dresser
  • Dangeresque, Too? + Bounty Hat + Frying Pan + Chargin' Targe
  • Summer Hat + Flip Flops + Lucky No. 42
  • Widowmaker + Short Circuit + Deus Specs
And so on.

As you can tell, they could apply this sort of thing to past promotions (preferably ones with items that can still be obtained). I threw a few unlikely ones into the list of examples for the sake of example.

What do you guys think?
Well, first, you forgot the Company Man in the Deus Ex Engineer Set.

Second, if we are counting set that the community are using, like Demopan, Tommy Gruvich and Dr. Enforcicle, you don't need to do that, this thread has that job.

And now, third, isn't this a set?

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Old 05-16-2012, 11:50 PM   #15
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The Demopan
Chargin' Targe
Frying Pan
Dangeresque, Too?
Bounty Hat


+100% chance of selling a Stout Shako for two refined
Wasn't this part of the wiki April Fools' joke? Problem with this one, hilarious as it is, is the three promo items, two of which also being untradeable.
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