Instant deaths

[hachiko]

So, I remember that Valve was boasting that almost never would you be insta-killed like in other games. I came back to TF2 today and got insta-gibbed a lot. What essential has changed since before tf2 going free?

[Raison d'être]

A lot.

[Wombats86]

Spy checking has become a lost art. So has telling your team about the spy you just saw.

Finding a competent pyro who can use airblast can be a real challenge.

Finding a medic who knows to run in front of the guy they're ubering against a sentry is next to impossible to find.

Free users love to stack snipers. Who doesn't love a team of 16 with 5 snipers?

[NuclearKangaroo]

id say random crits but those have been there forever


besides that i cannot think of many things that can kills you in 1 hit, i know if you are a scout the direct hit will instagib you at close range as well as any other light class, the loch and load can do the same, the machina has become the object of much criticism for being able to 1 shot demos and pyros when fully charged, any other sniper rifle can also kill light classes with fully charged shots and of course fulled charged headshots kill anything

besides that, i guess nothing

[The Decoy]

Originally Posted by Wombats86

Free users love to stack snipers. Who doesn't love a team of 16 with 5 snipers?

I love it when those 5 snipers can actually get headshots and surpress the other team. happens almost never, still massively surprising when it does happen.

[Marchenoir]

Originally Posted by Wombats86

Spy checking has become a lost art. So has telling your team about the spy you just saw.

Finding a competent pyro who can use airblast can be a real challenge.

Finding a medic who knows to run in front of the guy they're ubering against a sentry is next to impossible to find.

Free users love to stack snipers. Who doesn't love a team of 16 with 5 snipers?

Once again, don't play on valve servers.

+ it doesn't take a competent player to use (and abuse) airblast

[hat]

Originally Posted by hachiko

So, I remember that Valve was boasting that almost never would you be insta-killed like in other games. I came back to TF2 today and got insta-gibbed a lot. What essential has changed since before tf2 going free?

Backstabs, headshots, crit rockets/stickies, sticky carpets...

Can't remember what patches these things were added on. I'll check the wiki and get back to you.

[2560x1600@120hz]

The game has become more chaotic.

[Doomthief]

Only things are backstabs, headshots, crit rocket and stickies, multiple stickies, multiple spam of anything, and probably close range crits.

[Mcfan2]

Originally Posted by Marchenoir

Once again, don't play on valve servers.

+ it doesn't take a competent player to use (and abuse) airblast

I think he ment like, reflecting stuff.

[Default_String]

Just the direct hit and the locknload if you're a light class. And the caber but that's a melee weapon.

[MudkipzJnr]

Tauntkills instantly kill, rarely seen though.

[WeirdScout]

Soda popper (minicrits)
Crit-a-Cola
Direct Hit
Cow Mangler (minicrit)
Mantreads (from a really high fall)
Buff Banner
Market Gardener
Backburner/Phlog (get killed really fast)
Axtinguisher
Postal Pummeler
Loch-n-Load
Shield bash with heads
Ullapool Caber
KGB (crit-boost)
Frontier Justice (crits)
Kritzkrieg
All Sniper primaries
Bushwacka
All knives

Well, that's a lot of >125 damage attacks.

[hawkshadow741]

Sawblades
Pits
Train
Lil Chew Chew
Foundry Cauldron
etc

[isildur4]

Originally Posted by hachiko

So, I remember that Valve was boasting that almost never would you be insta-killed like in other games. I came back to TF2 today and got insta-gibbed a lot. What essential has changed since before tf2 going free?

because unlike cod, you can survive more than 2 bullets from a shotgun from 300 feet away. and quickscoping with sniper rifles is only good if you headshot.