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Old 05-08-2012, 05:50 AM   #16
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We should unite, but it's plainly obvious that VS is harder to play than Coop.
erh.. are we talking about vanilla versus.. I would like to argue that vanilla versus in its current state is terribly easy compared to coop expert

if we're talking about a balanced versus, where the SI actually have a chance.. then yeah
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Old 05-08-2012, 06:22 AM   #17
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erh.. are we talking about vanilla versus.. I would like to argue that vanilla versus in its current state is terribly easy compared to coop expert

if we're talking about a balanced versus, where the SI actually have a chance.. then yeah
Yes, a balanced Versus. When you actually balance the game and give the SI a chance, it's amazing how people behave. Grown men panic and lose their cool over the mic, making mistakes since they actually have to make snap decisions within seconds, depressed that they actually didn't make it to the safe room most of the time so they raqequit so they can find a Coop game so they can play it easy.

It's not for the faint of heart and I love it.
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Old 05-08-2012, 01:11 PM   #18
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We should unite, but it's plainly obvious that VS is harder to play than Coop.
Not at all. Coop on Expert is significantly harder than Versus. Only a pro Versus team on the other side can equal the challenge of Coop Expert.
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Old 05-08-2012, 02:17 PM   #19
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local servers have the option to kick even the host can be kicked
Uh no, lobby leader/server owner =/= local host. If you're locally hosting the server on your own computer, you do not appear on the kick menu.
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Old 05-08-2012, 02:33 PM   #20
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Uh no, lobby leader/server owner =/= local host. If you're locally hosting the server on your own computer, you do not appear on the kick menu.
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you can on pc at least in vs im not sure in coop ,but if its not disabled for vs then i doubt it is in coop
like I said im not sure in coop but in Vs last time I hosted locally I could be kicked
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Old 05-08-2012, 02:41 PM   #21
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Not at all. Coop on Expert is significantly harder than Versus. Only a pro Versus team on the other side can equal the challenge of Coop Expert.
Really now? Moving slow and shooting at heads on bots is harder than an equal team of human-controlled Infected who always go for death charges and pulls?
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Old 05-08-2012, 02:53 PM   #22
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Not at all. Coop on Expert is significantly harder than Versus. Only a pro Versus team on the other side can equal the challenge of Coop Expert.
It depends on the Infected team on Versus. If the SI team is good, Coop Expert is easier than VS. If the infected team isn't good, well it'a a faceroll.

Personally I don't find Realism Expert hard, you can do the whole map using only the deagle/melee, switching to primary weapon when you really need it (rarely).

Against a talented SI team, you can't fool around, you have to block spawn points, move forward constantly, it's way harder than Expert.
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Old 05-08-2012, 02:54 PM   #23
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Definitely modded server. There are a bunch of them out there which grey out the menu options.

Some even grey out the "return to lobby". What's up with that, to drive people away to not bother with it? Because that works great!
Try this in console:

callvote returntolobby

If it says you have no access.. just leave, I guess.
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Old 05-09-2012, 04:24 AM   #24
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Try this in console:

callvote returntolobby

If it says you have no access.. just leave, I guess.
and if it works people will kick you for randomly calling a RTLV
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Old 05-09-2012, 09:05 AM   #25
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why ? local servers have the option to kick even the host can be kicked
Umm. Since when? It's always been that if the guy hosting exits the game, everyone returns to the lobby. So, Valve made the host exempt from being chosen for a vote kick. Everyone else, can be selected for a kick, though. Otherwise, the joke is on the guys that kicked you... In that, as soon as they did they all returned to the lobby.

Same goes if you exit the game as host. You break the game for everyone. They all return to the lobby as soon as the host leaves.

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Old 05-09-2012, 10:11 AM   #26
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Perhaps it's time for Valve to invest in the option of blacklisting modded servers...
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