Hot weather means hot cpu temperatures, I need some heating advice.

Schmooblidon · 05-24-2012, 12:34 PM

My computer is for some reason extremely prone to heating up. I live in england and air conditioning is not exactly common. During the winter, I left a window open in my room, specifically for my computer. But now its summer and opening a window during the day does not help at all. I just yesterday cleaned out dust from the heatsink and put fresh thermal paste in, but I am still reaching CPU temperatures of the mid 50s degrees celsuis. Although it does not overheat to the point programs become slow and crash, the noise of the fan is incredibly loud and annoying. It is currently spinning at 6000RPM and yesterday at one point made it to 10000RPM. My room is very small and compact, which does not help. I need some advice to achieve the lowest possible temperatures.

My motherboard is at the mid 40s degrees celsuis, which is a little too hot for my liking and the GPU is sitting in the high 30s. The computer is tucked into the corner of my room, but the air exits are not blocked.

Alshain · 05-24-2012, 12:42 PM

So, you want to cool your computer without fans because the fans are noisy?

Water cooling is the only thing that comes to mind. I don't have experience with this, but I'm sure someone will come along and suggest some products.

What kind of CPU do you have? 50 deg C isn't that hot.

TeKraken · 05-24-2012, 12:43 PM

Are these idle or load temps?
DO you have a case fan or 2?
What size CPU fan do you have?
Larger fans (12cms) can spin slower and move the same amount of air as small whiney fans..

My hyper 212 is spinning at 900rpm and my i5 is at 35*C. (Ambient is 25*c)

Schmooblidon · 05-24-2012, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alshain

So, you want to cool your computer without fans because the fans are noisy?

Water cooling is the only thing that comes to mind. I don't have experience with this, but I'm sure someone will come along and suggest some products.

What kind of CPU do you have? 50 deg C isn't that hot.

No its not, but its taking 6000RPM to get to that. I am aware of liquid cooling, and if I had the cash, that would be a no brainer. The question wasn't about alternatives, but fixing what I have. I have an AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+, it is rather old.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeKraken

Are these idle or load temps?
DO you have a case fan or 2?
What size CPU fan do you have?
Larger fans (12cms) can spin slower and move the same amount of air as small whiney fans..

My hyper 212 is spinning at 900rpm and my i5 is at 35*C. (Ambient is 25*c)

Well, I'm running chrome with a youtube video and steam, so I guess a small load temp. I have 2 case fans, one at the front, one at the back. I also have a spare xbox360 fan, that I could probably fit in? The CPU fan is not a large one, I think its 70mm, getting a large fan seems like a good idea, but the fan I have now clips onto the heatsink. How would a larger one fit?

Alshain · 05-24-2012, 12:59 PM

Well as far as attempting to fix it. When was the last time you cleaned and reapplied thermal grease to your CPU? Thermal grease doesn't last forever, ideally you should do this once a year, but I can't say I follow that ideal scenario myself.

That's about the only thing I can think of that could help. Short of replacing the cooling system.

TeKraken · 05-24-2012, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmooblidon

Well, I'm running chrome with a youtube video and steam, so I guess a small load temp. I have 2 case fans, one at the front, one at the back. I also have a spare xbox360 fan, that I could probably fit in? The CPU fan is not a large one, I think its 70mm, getting a large fan seems like a good idea, but the fan I have now clips onto the heatsink. How would a larger one fit?

You have your case fans as 1 in and 1 out?

That cpu is an AM2 yes?

Hyper 212 evo

£25 - £30 depending where you get it. If you have room in your case height wise and if it will fit on your motherboard.

Schmooblidon · 05-24-2012, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeKraken

You have your case fans as 1 in and 1 out?

That cpu is an AM2 yes?

Hyper 212 evo

£25 - £30 depending where you get it. If you have room in your case height wise and if it will fit on your motherboard.

Doesn't the cpu fan use the holes in the case for air intake? My case has a sort of tube inside leading to the holes, which alligns to the cpu. Having a fan to the side would defeat the purpose?

TeKraken · 05-24-2012, 01:12 PM

what case do you have?

Ghost Dog · 05-24-2012, 01:16 PM

Sounds like a dell case doesn't it?

Schmooblidon · 05-24-2012, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeKraken

what case do you have?

akasa zen

TeKraken · 05-24-2012, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmooblidon

akasa zen

okay so instead of using the 'dell approved' vent shute thingy the air would come in the front fan, past the hdd, through the hyper212 and then go out the back fan.

Pretty much the same set up I have but with a different case.

Out of curiosity - Does air actually get drawn into that dell air shute thing?

Does your motherboard have the 4 holes round by the cpu to mount a larger cooler?

**
I assumed the 7cm cooler you have is just the stock amd one?

Schmooblidon · 05-24-2012, 01:41 PM

It doesn't make any sense, there is no front vent on my case, inside you can see the fan with a vent on the frame, but it is blocked by the front black portion of the case, where the front usb slots are. Hovering my hand over the shute, it is cool so it is probably doing something. Surely the mount would be the same size as any cooler? I got the computer second hand from a friend but i assume it was the stock one.

cereal3 · 05-24-2012, 03:12 PM

I can pretty much guarantee that the hyper 212 will reduce your temps dramatically and be practically inaudible even without a chute or vent to let air in

SgtPinback · 05-24-2012, 10:02 PM

Ah the good old X2 6000+... Do you have the original heatsink/fan? I belive they were 60mm, on mine (an Opty 175) I was running it 24x7 and the bearings went bad (if yours is loud maybe yours is bad as well?). So I went to my local Micro Center and saw a 60mm to 80mm adapter like this one, and used an fan from an old PSU, it was quieter and cooler.

Another idea, if you have access to some tools, is to do a side panel mod and optionally a top blow hole mod. I did a similar mod (both) when I got a fanless zalman GPU heatsink on my Radeon 9800 Pro 128/256 to get a stable 40% OC in a case not unlike yours - I had 2 x 120mm in the side (intake, blowing directly on the GPU) and a 120mm on top (exhaust) and it was much improved even though the fans were relatively low speed.

I read an article recently where they were testing several PCs for cooling capacity, and the top one had a 140mm side fan. Can't find it or I would link

Oh well, hope this gives you some ideas.

cheers

GreenSmoke · 05-24-2012, 10:44 PM

Get a better computer case, maybe one with bigger intake and outtake fans, they can usually run slower (quieter) while moving more air. Invest in a CPU water block system.

Or go complete water cooling system, linking the CPU, and GPU water blocks together (and w/e else you want to cool with blocks I.E ..RAM, or HDDs), and connect to a big radiator with a couple big slower quiet fans on it, along with a quiet pump.

Quiet Fanless systems are usually more expensive building/maintaining. If the noise/heat really bothers you that much..that's the price you pay.

If you don't want to pay too much money, get the good ol' dremel and do some case modding to gets some big fans into your current one...maybe cutting out a intake vent into your current case..etc

05-24-2012, 12:34 PM	#1
Schmooblidon Join Date: Feb 2010 Reputation: 0 Posts: 71	Hot weather means hot cpu temperatures, I need some heating advice. My computer is for some reason extremely prone to heating up. I live in england and air conditioning is not exactly common. During the winter, I left a window open in my room, specifically for my computer. But now its summer and opening a window during the day does not help at all. I just yesterday cleaned out dust from the heatsink and put fresh thermal paste in, but I am still reaching CPU temperatures of the mid 50s degrees celsuis. Although it does not overheat to the point programs become slow and crash, the noise of the fan is incredibly loud and annoying. It is currently spinning at 6000RPM and yesterday at one point made it to 10000RPM. My room is very small and compact, which does not help. I need some advice to achieve the lowest possible temperatures. My motherboard is at the mid 40s degrees celsuis, which is a little too hot for my liking and the GPU is sitting in the high 30s. The computer is tucked into the corner of my room, but the air exits are not blocked.

05-24-2012, 12:59 PM	#5
Alshain Join Date: Mar 2009 Reputation: 737 Posts: 1,736	Well as far as attempting to fix it. When was the last time you cleaned and reapplied thermal grease to your CPU? Thermal grease doesn't last forever, ideally you should do this once a year, but I can't say I follow that ideal scenario myself. That's about the only thing I can think of that could help. Short of replacing the cooling system. Last edited by Alshain: 05-24-2012 at 01:01 PM.

05-24-2012, 10:02 PM	#14
SgtPinback Join Date: Mar 2012 Reputation: 48 Posts: 78	Ah the good old X2 6000+... Do you have the original heatsink/fan? I belive they were 60mm, on mine (an Opty 175) I was running it 24x7 and the bearings went bad (if yours is loud maybe yours is bad as well?). So I went to my local Micro Center and saw a 60mm to 80mm adapter like this one, and used an fan from an old PSU, it was quieter and cooler. Another idea, if you have access to some tools, is to do a side panel mod and optionally a top blow hole mod. I did a similar mod (both) when I got a fanless zalman GPU heatsink on my Radeon 9800 Pro 128/256 to get a stable 40% OC in a case not unlike yours - I had 2 x 120mm in the side (intake, blowing directly on the GPU) and a 120mm on top (exhaust) and it was much improved even though the fans were relatively low speed. I read an article recently where they were testing several PCs for cooling capacity, and the top one had a 140mm side fan. Can't find it or I would link Oh well, hope this gives you some ideas. cheers Last edited by SgtPinback: 05-24-2012 at 10:04 PM.

05-24-2012, 10:44 PM	#15
GreenSmoke Join Date: Jan 2007 Reputation: 2 Posts: 160	Get a better computer case, maybe one with bigger intake and outtake fans, they can usually run slower (quieter) while moving more air. Invest in a CPU water block system. Or go complete water cooling system, linking the CPU, and GPU water blocks together (and w/e else you want to cool with blocks I.E ..RAM, or HDDs), and connect to a big radiator with a couple big slower quiet fans on it, along with a quiet pump. Quiet Fanless systems are usually more expensive building/maintaining. If the noise/heat really bothers you that much..that's the price you pay. If you don't want to pay too much money, get the good ol' dremel and do some case modding to gets some big fans into your current one...maybe cutting out a intake vent into your current case..etc Last edited by GreenSmoke: 05-24-2012 at 10:48 PM.

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05-24-2012, 12:42 PM	#2
Alshain Join Date: Mar 2009 Reputation: 737 Posts: 1,736	So, you want to cool your computer without fans because the fans are noisy? Water cooling is the only thing that comes to mind. I don't have experience with this, but I'm sure someone will come along and suggest some products. What kind of CPU do you have? 50 deg C isn't that hot.

05-24-2012, 12:43 PM	#3
TeKraken Join Date: Nov 2011 Reputation: 4619 Posts: 6,066	Are these idle or load temps? DO you have a case fan or 2? What size CPU fan do you have? Larger fans (12cms) can spin slower and move the same amount of air as small whiney fans.. My hyper 212 is spinning at 900rpm and my i5 is at 35C. (Ambient is 25c)

05-24-2012, 01:12 PM	#8
TeKraken Join Date: Nov 2011 Reputation: 4619 Posts: 6,066	what case do you have?

05-24-2012, 01:16 PM	#9
Ghost Dog Join Date: Nov 2007 Reputation: 244 Posts: 1,851	Sounds like a dell case doesn't it?

05-24-2012, 01:41 PM	#12
Schmooblidon Join Date: Feb 2010 Reputation: 0 Posts: 71	It doesn't make any sense, there is no front vent on my case, inside you can see the fan with a vent on the frame, but it is blocked by the front black portion of the case, where the front usb slots are. Hovering my hand over the shute, it is cool so it is probably doing something. Surely the mount would be the same size as any cooler? I got the computer second hand from a friend but i assume it was the stock one.

05-24-2012, 03:12 PM	#13
cereal3 Join Date: May 2008 Reputation: 177 Posts: 1,212	I can pretty much guarantee that the hyper 212 will reduce your temps dramatically and be practically inaudible even without a chute or vent to let air in