Can something be done to prevent the exploit were the bomb is being hidden? - Page 4

Roessler89 · 06-14-2012, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by visual

I don't think they do. And I've reported other problems/exploits to valve before on several other games without so much as a recognizion that the problem exists, neither did they actualy fix the problems either. Which is why I got to push it this time if I want them to really acknowledge the problem.

And there's your mistake. Many people (including myself) have tried to bring threads to their attention through these forums (bumping every day), linking to these threads to the csgo_dev twitter, PMs to mods to pass it on to devs (not that that would help much) - it just doesn't have ANY effect.

I have very dark thoughts about the devs at the moment - which is wrong, I shouldn't and it probably isn't fair to them that I think this way unfortunately, they way they act (or lack of acting) results with the expectation that they won't bother to address issues that we as community believe strongly about.

visual · 06-16-2012, 01:27 AM

It's still better than being quite and thinking that valve probably wont read it anyway. Then you've lost.

I just which a lot more people would agree with me that this "bomb-hide-drop" exploit needs to be fixed because the more people that want it fixed, the higher chance of valve taking a look at it. My mistake before was that I created one thread about something very important and due to not many people posting I just watched it dissapear from the forum.

Roessler89 · 06-16-2012, 01:56 AM

Oh I definitely agree, it needs to be fixed. I've just lost all faith in the devs. It's really a shame and I really do hope the devs take this to heart so that they can make a positive change to their practices.

Don't get me wrong, I understand it's hard being a public game developer having to put up with people like me telling them how to do their jobs; and putting up with people critiquing their work however, after so many months of inaction and no news - this is the result you get.

Raven_beef · 06-16-2012, 03:00 AM

I admit I thought this was about rag dolls laying on the bomb and being unable to pick it up. So I tried to avoid this thread. now I read it, and laughed!

Why did I laugh? Because I do this many times. hehe What can I say? I'm a troll sometimes.

Watching everyone get mad and rage about a single round in a public, meaningless game, standing around looking at the bomb they can't reach saying, "DERP I DUNNO WUT 2 DO" was quite funny and worth it each time.

It would be nice to prevent it, but honestly it's not really a big problem. Yes, it happens. And I would most certainly continue to do it.
But I think that's more on the side of the admin to kick/ban the person in question rather than add a feature to prevent it. That's the simplest solution I think.

However, if you were to add some feature, how would you stop it from being exploited in match play? I don't really see how. Ultimately, this is a public server gag. Which doesn't make it illegitimate, I just think it's not worth making more features for right now. I think there are more important things.

visual · 06-16-2012, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Raven_beef

It would be nice to prevent it, but honestly it's not really a big problem. Yes, it happens. And I would most certainly continue to do it.
But I think that's more on the side of the admin to kick/ban the person in question rather than add a feature to prevent it. That's the simplest solution I think.

Not all servers have admins arround. And what if the server has disabled voting?

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Originally Posted by Raven_beef

I just think it's not worth making more features for right now. I think there are more important things.

I disagree. The more important things have and are already being worked at. They still have time to add a fix for this exploit, it dosn't have to be in the next update but could easily be before august 21. But as of this moment it seems like they're not even prioritizing this exploit at all which is a shame.

To me, this exploit was what made CS 1.6 less fun. When I saw it in cs source I was even more disapointed. I don't want to be dissapointed a third time just because valve dosn't give a ♥♥♥♥ if you're able to hide and make the bomb unable to pick up which might screw up the round for your team.

Raven_beef · 06-16-2012, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by visual

Not all servers have admins arround. And what if the server has disabled voting?

That falls on the fault of the server admin. If there are no police around, you should expect the law to be broken - more than already at least. :P

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Originally Posted by visual

I disagree.

So you would prioritize this over sound, bugs, movement, silencers, models, ELO system, further weapon balance, VAC2, ZM VIP and DM, and many many more?

visual · 06-16-2012, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Raven_beef

That falls on the fault of the server admin. If there are no police around, you should expect the law to be broken - more than already at least. :P

So you would prioritize this over sound, bugs, movement, silencers, models, ELO system, further weapon balance, VAC2, ZM VIP and DM, and many many more?

Are you even being serious right now? Or are you just trolling.

Like I said earlier, those bugs are already higher prioritized and being worked at as we speak. It was confirmed a couple of days ago that the next update would contain the new sounds, and they promised silencers to be in the game before august 21. These are not hard things to fix for valve. The harder things have already been patched with the 2 (is it 3?) updates this week. The first update must have contained over 100 fixes if not more. And what makes you think they'll include VAC2 in the beta? They could aswell save that until release anyway.

And I never said that they should prirotize this higher than the already other reported game bugs. I just said that they could include a fix for this exploit while there's still time. It's about 2 months left until release so it's time that they read this or else the game will be full of people hiding and droping the bomb after august 21.

Raven_beef · 06-16-2012, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by visual

Are you even being serious right now? Or are you just trolling.

Serious.

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Originally Posted by visual

or else the game will be full of people hiding and droping the bomb after august 21.

I'll probably be one of them.

visual · 06-16-2012, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Raven_beef

Serious.
I'll probably be one of them.

I can see why you're not serious because a serious guy would want this exploit to be fixed before release.

I'm ending this discussion with you now. We don't share the same opinions and there's no reason for me to contunie arguing with you.

If you don't want this to be fixed, that's fine, but the majority of the people in this thread (including myself do) and I'm gonna do everything I can for valve to acknowledge this bug and fix it.

Raven_beef · 06-16-2012, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by visual

I can see why you're not serious because a serious guy would want this exploit to be fixed before release.

I made my point clear before. It should be fixed, and as long as it's not, I'll be one of them exploiting it because it's funny.
It's just not a great priority.

I do think however, if everyone in this thread is so annoyed by it, well, get over it, and stop taking your public servers so seriously. Laugh more, and let your hair down. Are you really going to let a couple rounds of bombs being thrown between cracks ruin your day? You sure seem to make it a big deal. :\

visual · 06-20-2012, 01:53 PM

It was funny the first 1-2 times they did it in CS 1.6 and that's about 13 years ago, now it's just annoying and happens far too often. You should be able to pick up a bomb that has been hidden(dropped into an object.

flea8me · 06-20-2012, 04:43 PM

An easy fix would be to allow T's to press the use key from a fair amount of units and pick the bomb up. Would solve most if not all problems.

visual · 06-23-2012, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by flea8me

An easy fix would be to allow T's to press the use key from a fair amount of units and pick the bomb up. Would solve most if not all problems.

Can we atleast get valve's own opinion on this?

As discussed earlier but with the condition that the bomb really is stuck in an object and that you can see parts of it.
It is indeed an easy fix and they should add it in the next update!

ocran88 · 06-23-2012, 11:38 AM

why in the world does this thread have so many views????

I haven't had any bad experience with bomb placement

visual · 06-24-2012, 10:14 AM

Have you been arround since CS 1.5/1.6? I've been arround for that long and played lots of rounds as a terrorist without a bomb to plant because some idiot dropped it inside an object making it impossible for you to pick it up. This has been going on for 13 years mate. 13 years because valve can't do one single thing to fix it.

And views, who cares about that? Atleast this shows that people are reading the forums.

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06-16-2012, 01:27 AM	#47
visual Join Date: May 2009 Reputation: 26 Posts: 262	It's still better than being quite and thinking that valve probably wont read it anyway. Then you've lost. I just which a lot more people would agree with me that this "bomb-hide-drop" exploit needs to be fixed because the more people that want it fixed, the higher chance of valve taking a look at it. My mistake before was that I created one thread about something very important and due to not many people posting I just watched it dissapear from the forum.

06-16-2012, 01:56 AM	#48
Roessler89 Join Date: May 2010 Reputation: 73 Posts: 1,330	Oh I definitely agree, it needs to be fixed. I've just lost all faith in the devs. It's really a shame and I really do hope the devs take this to heart so that they can make a positive change to their practices. Don't get me wrong, I understand it's hard being a public game developer having to put up with people like me telling them how to do their jobs; and putting up with people critiquing their work however, after so many months of inaction and no news - this is the result you get.

06-16-2012, 03:00 AM	#49
Raven_beef Join Date: Aug 2005 Reputation: 48 Posts: 745	I admit I thought this was about rag dolls laying on the bomb and being unable to pick it up. So I tried to avoid this thread. now I read it, and laughed! Why did I laugh? Because I do this many times. hehe What can I say? I'm a troll sometimes. Watching everyone get mad and rage about a single round in a public, meaningless game, standing around looking at the bomb they can't reach saying, "DERP I DUNNO WUT 2 DO" was quite funny and worth it each time. It would be nice to prevent it, but honestly it's not really a big problem. Yes, it happens. And I would most certainly continue to do it. But I think that's more on the side of the admin to kick/ban the person in question rather than add a feature to prevent it. That's the simplest solution I think. However, if you were to add some feature, how would you stop it from being exploited in match play? I don't really see how. Ultimately, this is a public server gag. Which doesn't make it illegitimate, I just think it's not worth making more features for right now. I think there are more important things.

06-20-2012, 01:53 PM	#56
visual Join Date: May 2009 Reputation: 26 Posts: 262	It was funny the first 1-2 times they did it in CS 1.6 and that's about 13 years ago, now it's just annoying and happens far too often. You should be able to pick up a bomb that has been hidden(dropped into an object.

06-20-2012, 04:43 PM	#57
flea8me Join Date: Nov 2009 Reputation: 22 Posts: 370	An easy fix would be to allow T's to press the use key from a fair amount of units and pick the bomb up. Would solve most if not all problems.

06-23-2012, 11:38 AM	#59
ocran88 Join Date: Mar 2012 Reputation: 9 Posts: 252	why in the world does this thread have so many views???? I haven't had any bad experience with bomb placement

06-24-2012, 10:14 AM	#60
visual Join Date: May 2009 Reputation: 26 Posts: 262	Have you been arround since CS 1.5/1.6? I've been arround for that long and played lots of rounds as a terrorist without a bomb to plant because some idiot dropped it inside an object making it impossible for you to pick it up. This has been going on for 13 years mate. 13 years because valve can't do one single thing to fix it. And views, who cares about that? Atleast this shows that people are reading the forums.