I've been blocked by people who aren't as experienced as me...

wowlolcat · 07-03-2012, 07:37 AM

I understand that Valve believes that the blocking system in L4D2 works mostly as intended, as Chet once mentioned being blocked by a few people shouldn't affect your experience unless you're a real jerk and everybody blocks you.

The problem is, I'm being blocked not because I'm a jerk but because inexperienced players frankly can't seem to fathom what snap-killing is, they don't utilize the audio of S.I to zero in on them and advanced strats learned by having over 3000 hours of gameplay. They're blocking me because I beat them at the game.

There have been too many incidents to list here, but the gist of it goes, In my country the L4D2 community is really small, small enough that when people start accusing me of hacking and block me, and tell their friends to block me, it affects my experience greatly. It means I am being punished by Valves block system for being a good player.

It's frustrating because there's no way around this. I can't convince people to unblock me because I can't contact them or message them. And once people do block someone, it's very unlikely they would navigate to their block list and randomly unblock me. They have no reason to, because a) Oh that guy is too good, i'd rather not vs him. and b) i think that guy was hacking, he kept killing me quickly. i'll keep him blocked.

So what can we do about this? It takes half an hour to just find a game where it's full and there's enough people. I'm sick of being invited to my friends games but being told I can't join them because someone has blocked me.

Perhaps there could be a cooldown period. So if you block someone, they stay blocked for a month and then they're automatically unblocked. I don't know, something to just help me restore my L4D2 experience. Like the community isn't small enough as it is, now people are selectively eliminating anyone better than them in Versus.

TheCombatMedic · 07-03-2012, 07:55 AM

Do you even want to be playing with those sort of people if this is how they are going to react? And if you can't join friend games cause you got blocked, then maybe your friends need to give that other friend a good talking to or they should boot him.

cookies4355 · 07-03-2012, 08:37 AM

Yet that what happens. I been having those trouble too. Good thing I live in NY where there is a lot of people. Only way around that is to find pug or good scrim group. You can also change your location.

If you are really trouble then wait till left for dead 2 go on sale and then buy another copy.

FYI this was happening b4 expect in the pass it was the server's admin. This is almost as sad as people who invite you to group.

prophecy holder · 07-03-2012, 09:25 AM

Welcome to Left 4 dead four years ago.

Koga Shiro · 07-03-2012, 12:11 PM

OP while I am not defending abuse of the block system whatsoever-- even if these people unblocked you then if you played another game against them they'd leave at the end of map 1 or something anyway. Assuming they're blocking you only for the reason you give, these aren't people who really should even be playing versus anyway, and probably ragequit out of games against better players. You haven't lost anything, in other words. It IS hard to get a full game of L4D2 in many regions at many times of day, even if you haven't been blocked by a lot of people.

knifeandfork · 07-03-2012, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wowlolcat

I'm sick of being invited to my friends games but being told I can't join them because someone has blocked me.

Does a message actually pop up and say something like

Sorry you can't join this server because somebody has blocked you

?

Buick72 · 07-03-2012, 12:38 PM

If you are blocked, or kicked by people who suck. You're really not losing out, as who would want to play with people like that anyway? Though I can see it being lame if one of them is in a game with good players thus not letting you get in...

If you have friends in the game, convince them to kick the offender?

chetf · 07-03-2012, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wowlolcat

I understand that Valve believes that the blocking system in L4D2 works mostly as intended, as Chet once mentioned being blocked by a few people shouldn't affect your experience unless you're a real jerk and everybody blocks you.

The problem is, I'm being blocked not because I'm a jerk but because inexperienced players frankly can't seem to fathom what snap-killing is, they don't utilize the audio of S.I to zero in on them and advanced strats learned by having over 3000 hours of gameplay. They're blocking me because I beat them at the game.

There have been too many incidents to list here, but the gist of it goes, In my country the L4D2 community is really small, small enough that when people start accusing me of hacking and block me, and tell their friends to block me, it affects my experience greatly. It means I am being punished by Valves block system for being a good player.

It's frustrating because there's no way around this. I can't convince people to unblock me because I can't contact them or message them. And once people do block someone, it's very unlikely they would navigate to their block list and randomly unblock me. They have no reason to, because a) Oh that guy is too good, i'd rather not vs him. and b) i think that guy was hacking, he kept killing me quickly. i'll keep him blocked.

So what can we do about this? It takes half an hour to just find a game where it's full and there's enough people. I'm sick of being invited to my friends games but being told I can't join them because someone has blocked me.

Perhaps there could be a cooldown period. So if you block someone, they stay blocked for a month and then they're automatically unblocked. I don't know, something to just help me restore my L4D2 experience. Like the community isn't small enough as it is, now people are selectively eliminating anyone better than them in Versus.

PM me your steam account(s) being affected to verify your identity and I can walk you through as an example (if you are okay with me sharing details) of how and why people use the block system.

We are making changes and looking at ways to improve the community experience, but honestly what I am seeing with your account is not matching your post.

knifeandfork · 07-03-2012, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knifeandfork

Does a message actually pop up and say something like

Sorry you can't join this server because somebody has blocked you

?

Chet!

Quick answer this my 1000th post dude!!!!

Don't let me down fella

Koga Shiro · 07-03-2012, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chetf

PM me your steam account(s) being affected to verify your identity and I can walk you through as an example (if you are okay with me sharing details) of how and why people use the block system.

We are making changes and looking at ways to improve the community experience, but honestly what I am seeing with your account is not matching your post.

.... oh snap?

cityuk04 · 07-03-2012, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chetf

PM me your steam account(s) being affected to verify your identity and I can walk you through as an example (if you are okay with me sharing details) of how and why people use the block system.

We are making changes and looking at ways to improve the community experience, but honestly what I am seeing with your account is not matching your post.

Oh cool. If you're investigating this issue perhaps you can run your eye over my account as I have the feeling I've been blocked under similar circumstances. (or maybe I'm just being paranoid.) Would be nice to know either way.

chetf · 07-03-2012, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cityuk04

Oh cool. If you're investigating this issue perhaps you can run your eye over my account as I have the feeling I've been blocked under similar circumstances. (or maybe I'm just being paranoid.) Would be nice to know either way.

Link your steam account to your forum name or post it here.

Kerb · 07-03-2012, 02:05 PM

I'm hoping this thread will deliver!

cityuk04 · 07-03-2012, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chetf

Link your steam account to your forum name or post it here.

I thought I had. Is the button that says "steam profile" under my name not what you are referring to?

Edit - OK, done it now.

TGUSOL · 07-03-2012, 02:16 PM

I have blocked a few people mostly griefers/bad server admins who abuse it/the rude or unfriendly.

I use it socially rather than win/lose or player skill level, it's does not matter I think most people I know use it in the same fashion.

Being Honest I thought it was a bad idea but I was wrong, but it would be a great addition if you had to fill in a small text field describing why, just like the report function has.

07-03-2012, 07:37 AM	#1
wowlolcat Join Date: May 2009 Reputation: 18 Posts: 24	I've been blocked by people who aren't as experienced as me... I understand that Valve believes that the blocking system in L4D2 works mostly as intended, as Chet once mentioned being blocked by a few people shouldn't affect your experience unless you're a real jerk and everybody blocks you. The problem is, I'm being blocked not because I'm a jerk but because inexperienced players frankly can't seem to fathom what snap-killing is, they don't utilize the audio of S.I to zero in on them and advanced strats learned by having over 3000 hours of gameplay. They're blocking me because I beat them at the game. There have been too many incidents to list here, but the gist of it goes, In my country the L4D2 community is really small, small enough that when people start accusing me of hacking and block me, and tell their friends to block me, it affects my experience greatly. It means I am being punished by Valves block system for being a good player. It's frustrating because there's no way around this. I can't convince people to unblock me because I can't contact them or message them. And once people do block someone, it's very unlikely they would navigate to their block list and randomly unblock me. They have no reason to, because a) Oh that guy is too good, i'd rather not vs him. and b) i think that guy was hacking, he kept killing me quickly. i'll keep him blocked. So what can we do about this? It takes half an hour to just find a game where it's full and there's enough people. I'm sick of being invited to my friends games but being told I can't join them because someone has blocked me. Perhaps there could be a cooldown period. So if you block someone, they stay blocked for a month and then they're automatically unblocked. I don't know, something to just help me restore my L4D2 experience. Like the community isn't small enough as it is, now people are selectively eliminating anyone better than them in Versus.

07-03-2012, 08:37 AM	#3
cookies4355 Join Date: Dec 2010 Reputation: 27 Posts: 260	Yet that what happens. I been having those trouble too. Good thing I live in NY where there is a lot of people. Only way around that is to find pug or good scrim group. You can also change your location. If you are really trouble then wait till left for dead 2 go on sale and then buy another copy. FYI this was happening b4 expect in the pass it was the server's admin. This is almost as sad as people who invite you to group. Last edited by cookies4355: 07-03-2012 at 08:43 AM.

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07-03-2012, 07:55 AM	#2
TheCombatMedic Join Date: Jan 2011 Reputation: 670 Posts: 4,576	Do you even want to be playing with those sort of people if this is how they are going to react? And if you can't join friend games cause you got blocked, then maybe your friends need to give that other friend a good talking to or they should boot him.

07-03-2012, 09:25 AM	#4
prophecy holder Join Date: Oct 2010 Reputation: 2279 Posts: 2,928	Welcome to Left 4 dead four years ago.

07-03-2012, 12:11 PM	#5
Koga Shiro Join Date: Nov 2009 Reputation: 1882 Posts: 10,047	OP while I am not defending abuse of the block system whatsoever-- even if these people unblocked you then if you played another game against them they'd leave at the end of map 1 or something anyway. Assuming they're blocking you only for the reason you give, these aren't people who really should even be playing versus anyway, and probably ragequit out of games against better players. You haven't lost anything, in other words. It IS hard to get a full game of L4D2 in many regions at many times of day, even if you haven't been blocked by a lot of people.

07-03-2012, 12:38 PM	#7
Buick72 Join Date: Mar 2009 Reputation: 274 Posts: 2,892	If you are blocked, or kicked by people who suck. You're really not losing out, as who would want to play with people like that anyway? Though I can see it being lame if one of them is in a game with good players thus not letting you get in... If you have friends in the game, convince them to kick the offender?

07-03-2012, 02:05 PM	#13
Kerb Join Date: Jun 2009 Reputation: 17 Posts: 110	I'm hoping this thread will deliver!

07-03-2012, 02:16 PM	#15
TGUSOL Join Date: Mar 2009 Reputation: 228 Posts: 577	I have blocked a few people mostly griefers/bad server admins who abuse it/the rude or unfriendly. I use it socially rather than win/lose or player skill level, it's does not matter I think most people I know use it in the same fashion. Being Honest I thought it was a bad idea but I was wrong, but it would be a great addition if you had to fill in a small text field describing why, just like the report function has.