Cheater flood in mw3

[lillythemoogle]

Too bad Valve didn't make the game. Accusing them of selling hacks is pretty low, but from a broken English post

just like
this

I don't expect much.

[DonVino]

I swear I hope the next CoD will be on origin so this stupid "I WILL NEVER BUY FROM VALVE" ♥♥♥♥ stops. You sir have not a cheating problem,the problem is clearly the EBKAC-error

[Captain Morti]

Originally Posted by DonVino

I swear I hope the next CoD will be on origin so this stupid "I WILL NEVER BUY FROM VALVE" ♥♥♥♥ stops. You sir have not a cheating problem,the problem is clearly the EBKAC-error

I agree with this, when I could vote the game with the worst community it would be CoD. The people with it on the forums are just annoying (sorry for all normal and nice CoD-players, but you just have a bunch of horrible black sheep in your community - and I dont mean this cheaters with black sheep).

[justAEA]

If Valve made any CoD game it would be one of the best online games ever (imo).

[Labianator]

Originally Posted by lillythemoogle

Too bad Valve didn't make the game. Accusing them of selling hacks is pretty low, but from a broken English post

just like
this

I don't expect much.

It's cute how you pick on someone's broken English.

Couldn't bash his argument using the subject at hand, so you went all nasty on him.

Good for you, lillythemoogle, good for you!

Want a damned cookie now?

[Labianator]

In any case, the OP is correct; Valve are doing nothing to combat the current levels of cheating in MW3. It's sickening. If they want to offer a solution to developers for policing their games, then they NEED to be more proactive about it.

Valve... you're a big letdown. Your VAC and your services are all a hot mess.

[Acepwner99]

IW didn't implement vac very well. Look at other games which are VAC secured. Killing floor, does not have hacking problems. TF2, Does not have hacking problems. Counter strike source, does not have cheating problems.

[Labianator]

Originally Posted by Acepwner99

IW didn't implement vac very well. Look at other games which are VAC secured. Killing floor, does not have hacking problems. TF2, Does not have hacking problems. Counter strike source, does not have cheating problems.

The point is that they are not being proactive with it.

They have a suspected cheater reporting system that is ONLY used for statistics? Are you for real?

They have something which is supposed to ban cheaters, but it takes weeks to months (sometimes NEVER) to actually ban them? Seriously?

It's laziest implementation of an anti-cheat ever devised. I don't care how poorly IW implemented it. If Valve were truly concerned with catching cheaters, they'd either improve VAC to the point it doesn't matter HOW it's implemented, or they'd force developers to implement them PROPERLY or in a very good way.

I get it that IW has a lot to answer for with cheaters (they've never produced a game you CAN'T cheat in), but Valve is on the throttle now and they aren't giving it much gas.

[Tyrfaust]

Originally Posted by Labianator

The point is that they are not being proactive with it.

They have a suspected cheater reporting system that is ONLY used for statistics? Are you for real?

They have something which is supposed to ban cheaters, but it takes weeks to months (sometimes NEVER) to actually ban them? Seriously?

It's laziest implementation of an anti-cheat ever devised. I don't care how poorly IW implemented it. If Valve were truly concerned with catching cheaters, they'd either improve VAC to the point it doesn't matter HOW it's implemented, or they'd force developers to implement them PROPERLY or in a very good way.

I get it that IW has a lot to answer for with cheaters (they've never produced a game you CAN'T cheat in), but Valve is on the throttle now and they aren't giving it much gas.

So... in other words.... It's Valve's fault that Activision didn't implement VAC properly? Or any kind of anti-cheat for that matter?

Yep, that makes sense.

[Labianator]

Originally Posted by Tyrfaust

So... in other words.... It's Valve's fault that Activision didn't implement VAC properly? Or any kind of anti-cheat for that matter?

Yep, that makes sense.

You don't read too well, do you?

Valve are not on top of the cheaters. They take far too long to detect cheats and implement bans for those cheats.

About the only thing IW didn't implement was host tools. That alone should not be the only reason VAC doesn't catch cheaters.

Valve are just being lazy.

[Tyrfaust]

Originally Posted by Labianator

You don't read too well, do you?

Valve are not on top of the cheaters. They take far too long to detect cheats and implement bans for those cheats.

About the only thing IW didn't implement was host tools. That alone should not be the only reason VAC doesn't catch cheaters.

Valve are just being lazy.

That explains all the hackers in CS:S or DoD:S or TF2 or Killing Floor or any of the other myriad of games that correctly implemented VAC.

[DonVino]

first: NECRO
second: yet another rant from a guy who doesnt understand how vac works
third: yet another rant from a mw guy

nothing new,nothing to add,just the same ♥♥♥♥ as in every single mw related vac thread.

[arisaka]

Originally Posted by Labianator

You don't read too well, do you?

Valve are not on top of the cheaters. They take far too long to detect cheats and implement bans for those cheats.

About the only thing IW didn't implement was host tools. That alone should not be the only reason VAC doesn't catch cheaters.

Valve are just being lazy.

Since cheaters are rampant in MW3 and everyone is complaining about them, then wouldn't you say that people are better at detecting hackers than VAC is?

Well you're 100% right, and this is what Valve realized 10 years ago, because that's exactly what server admins do. What VAC can't do (because obviously it can't detect everything), admins can make up for.

I will repeat this again and again: VAC was designed to work with player-hosted servers because the players themselves can do the short term kicking/banning. Then Activision/IW come along and say "oh, we don't need that dedicated server stuff in our Call of Duties" and completely ♥♥♥♥ up the games' anti cheat environment.

VAC isn't supposed to operate alone. In MW2 and MW3, it does exactly that. And people wonder why it's not working as well as it does in Source games/KF/Dungeon Defenders? The answer is right in front of their freaking faces.

[CTRL ALT DEL !]

I wish MW never used VAC and was only available on origin, then I could ignore it completely.

As it is the most important part of VAC, the ability to kick players for cheating is not available. That is not VAC's fault, that's the game developers fault.

The fact they have ignored players and not added a kick/ban function is the reason nobody should ever buy another game in the series until the fix the games they have released already.

Also activision relies 100% on users reporting the cheats to VAC. It seems the players themselves don't report the cheats (not the cheaters) the actual cheat files, the crap you download to cheat with.

If that is not sent to the VAC team there are no anticheat codes made to ban the players using that particular cheat.

It is not up to VAC to get the cheats, it is up to the players to do this or Activision (and we know they will not do anything to help).

[CRUSADER .]

Last game you bought from Valve?
Didn't Treyarch make MW3?