Some server are racist against spy

skydeli · 08-09-2012, 01:54 PM

some server use class option to make game whit no spy or other class...
class restriction option are usefull because some game look like that:
5 spy
2 scout
1 sniper
that dosent make a great team

but people have made quite a mess whit these option

Ex:
Game whitout specific class?

Game whit only sniper or other class?

class restriction can be usefull, but i play a lot of spy and when 20% of server restrict the game to zero spy, it start to anoy me

i made this topic to make people realise that using class restriction to create game whit zero spy is completly stupid
and pointless

=)

Enigmantic · 08-09-2012, 05:21 PM

Personally, I hate the class restriction option. The game would be better off without it. I backed out of so many games because I couldn't play the class I wanted to. I would enter a game and no scout, no soldier, no Pyro allowed...leave game and look for another that allows them...go into game, same restrictions, leave game, etc. It sucks! I never hosted a game but if I did there would be no restrictions.

DavyinaToga · 08-09-2012, 05:32 PM

I'm happy enough for restrictions to be available. There are very few classes that are good to have more than 2 of, and there's too many newbs who play specialty classes very poorly because they don't have a full understanding of class mechanics/matchups. Preventing the temptation for an all-X team that'll flounder by encouraging variety and stable team builds is good for the game. As long as class limits have a good balance, then it's no problem.

The problem is when hosts abuse the class limits. All-heavy fights can be enjoyable every once in a while, but once the host unlocks a spy for his team and quickly locks it back off again before the other team can get a spy of their own, then it's time to give the host a negative player review and bail on the server. It's too bad Valve didn't have the foresight to make class limit changes only take effect between rounds/matches when it was first implemented, and CBA to change it in a subsequent patch.

Chill Dude · 08-09-2012, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavyinaToga

there's too many newbs who play specialty classes very poorly because they don't have a full understanding of class mechanics/matchups.

oh my god , every time there's a game that only allows 1 spy somehow it's always the guy that forgets to cloak before going into an area crowded with enemy's. Or better yet the idiot who doesn't pick a disguise and when he does it's scout.

iGluttony x · 08-09-2012, 07:21 PM

If I ever host a game, I always make the Engie limit 2. I don't want a bunch of a-holes turtling in the HQ.

"It's a legitimate tactic!

"

No. **** you. Go kill yourself.

Enigmantic · 08-10-2012, 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iGluttony x

If I ever host a game, I always make the Engie limit 2. I don't want a bunch of a-holes turtling in the HQ.

"It's a legitimate tactic!

"

No. **** you. Go kill yourself.

Now that I think about it your right about the limit on engineers. That is a good idea.

Not sure about all the anger and hatred though.

Knuxfan24 · 08-10-2012, 03:44 PM

Engie Fortress 2 anyone?

RamirezTheGnome · 08-10-2012, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knuxfan24

Engie Fortress 2 anyone?

YOU KNOW IT!

DavyinaToga · 08-10-2012, 04:56 PM

Recommended class limits:
1-2
Demoman
Engineer (2fort)
Sniper (2fort)

2-3
Engineer (any map)
Sniper (any map)
Spy
Medic

3+
Soldier
Pyro
Scout (3 max on 2fort)
Heavy

On a pseudo-related thought, provided the host doesn't abuse class limits:

Good (_____)-only server
Heavy
Scout
Soldier

OK (_____)-only server
Medic
Demoman
Pyro

Bad (_____)-only server
Sniper
Spy

Extremely Horrendous Never-Do-It (_____)-only server
Engineer (ESPECIALLY ON A/D MAPS AND THE HOST IS A RED PANSY)

Chill Dude · 08-11-2012, 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavyinaToga

Extremely Horrendous Never-Do-It (_____)-only server
Engineer (ESPECIALLY ON A/D MAPS AND THE HOST IS A RED PANSY)

Well I agree with the other ones but some engineer games are great. (2Fort only) It usually always ends up with one team spawn camping the other or spawn camping each other but man it can be a fantastic match up until that point.

skydeli · 08-11-2012, 08:53 PM

some server are okay, i mean that using the class restriction for creating a server whit only max 2 or 3 spy is okay...but then your have to restrict others class also...
Anyway, if i enter a server and i cant be a spy i will quit the game because i do only play as a spy(im pretty good as a spy, i am not noob)

even if restricting the spy to 1 or 2 is probably normal...it not balanced because there is no restriction for those other class

some problem whit class restriction:
-host exagerating and completly disabling one or multiple class
-host limiting one class but not the other
some problem whit no class limitation
-game whit 6 spy or 6 engineer,etc
-game unbalenced 2 sniper,3 spy,3 engineer

hey guy,people are too stupid to make balanced team, let put some class restriction
hey guy,people are too stupid,they abuse of class restriction,let take out those class restriction
basicly, where ****

jorcy · 08-12-2012, 12:19 PM

Yep, anything

08-09-2012, 01:54 PM	#1
skydeli Join Date: Jul 2012 Reputation: 0 Posts: 18	Some server are racist against spy some server use class option to make game whit no spy or other class... class restriction option are usefull because some game look like that: 5 spy 2 scout 1 sniper that dosent make a great team but people have made quite a mess whit these option Ex: Game whitout specific class? Game whit only sniper or other class? class restriction can be usefull, but i play a lot of spy and when 20% of server restrict the game to zero spy, it start to anoy me i made this topic to make people realise that using class restriction to create game whit zero spy is completly stupid and pointless =)

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08-09-2012, 05:21 PM	#2
Enigmantic Join Date: Jul 2012 Reputation: 12 Posts: 142	Personally, I hate the class restriction option. The game would be better off without it. I backed out of so many games because I couldn't play the class I wanted to. I would enter a game and no scout, no soldier, no Pyro allowed...leave game and look for another that allows them...go into game, same restrictions, leave game, etc. It sucks! I never hosted a game but if I did there would be no restrictions.

08-09-2012, 05:32 PM	#3
DavyinaToga Join Date: Dec 2009 Reputation: 31 Posts: 185	I'm happy enough for restrictions to be available. There are very few classes that are good to have more than 2 of, and there's too many newbs who play specialty classes very poorly because they don't have a full understanding of class mechanics/matchups. Preventing the temptation for an all-X team that'll flounder by encouraging variety and stable team builds is good for the game. As long as class limits have a good balance, then it's no problem. The problem is when hosts abuse the class limits. All-heavy fights can be enjoyable every once in a while, but once the host unlocks a spy for his team and quickly locks it back off again before the other team can get a spy of their own, then it's time to give the host a negative player review and bail on the server. It's too bad Valve didn't have the foresight to make class limit changes only take effect between rounds/matches when it was first implemented, and CBA to change it in a subsequent patch.

08-09-2012, 07:21 PM	#5
iGluttony x Join Date: Dec 2009 Reputation: 1183 Posts: 2,190	If I ever host a game, I always make the Engie limit 2. I don't want a bunch of a-holes turtling in the HQ. "It's a legitimate tactic! " No. **** you. Go kill yourself.

08-10-2012, 03:44 PM	#7
Knuxfan24 Join Date: Mar 2012 Reputation: 0 Posts: 6	Engie Fortress 2 anyone?

08-10-2012, 04:56 PM	#9
DavyinaToga Join Date: Dec 2009 Reputation: 31 Posts: 185	Recommended class limits: 1-2 Demoman Engineer (2fort) Sniper (2fort) 2-3 Engineer (any map) Sniper (any map) Spy Medic 3+ Soldier Pyro Scout (3 max on 2fort) Heavy On a pseudo-related thought, provided the host doesn't abuse class limits: Good (_____)-only server Heavy Scout Soldier OK (_____)-only server Medic Demoman Pyro Bad (_____)-only server Sniper Spy Extremely Horrendous Never-Do-It (_____)-only server Engineer (ESPECIALLY ON A/D MAPS AND THE HOST IS A RED PANSY)

08-11-2012, 08:53 PM	#11
skydeli Join Date: Jul 2012 Reputation: 0 Posts: 18	some server are okay, i mean that using the class restriction for creating a server whit only max 2 or 3 spy is okay...but then your have to restrict others class also... Anyway, if i enter a server and i cant be a spy i will quit the game because i do only play as a spy(im pretty good as a spy, i am not noob) even if restricting the spy to 1 or 2 is probably normal...it not balanced because there is no restriction for those other class some problem whit class restriction: -host exagerating and completly disabling one or multiple class -host limiting one class but not the other some problem whit no class limitation -game whit 6 spy or 6 engineer,etc -game unbalenced 2 sniper,3 spy,3 engineer hey guy,people are too stupid to make balanced team, let put some class restriction hey guy,people are too stupid,they abuse of class restriction,let take out those class restriction basicly, where ****

08-12-2012, 12:19 PM	#12
jorcy Join Date: Dec 2011 Reputation: 0 Posts: 10	Yep, anything