Class Cap

poiuyt1587 · 08-07-2012, 05:53 PM

This is just a quick question:

I know that there is a cap at 1 medic and 1 demo per 6v6 team. Something about wanting to speed up the pace of play by reducing the amount of healing and area denial.

What I want to know is, if this class cap didn't exist, what would the team consist of?

Thanks in advance for your input!

Sdciter · 08-07-2012, 06:04 PM

demoman demoman demoman demoman medic medic

Not_Matlock · 08-07-2012, 06:12 PM

Yeah. Without the class limits the game would be nothing but demospam.

poiuyt1587 · 08-07-2012, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sdciter

demoman demoman demoman demoman medic medic

Seriously? Demo is just the ultimate class?

Side question: Has anyone ever tried this setup in a semi-serious fashion? If so, what was the outcome?

CrashSite · 08-07-2012, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by poiuyt1587

Seriously? Demo is just the ultimate class?

Side question: Has anyone ever tried this setup in a semi-serious fashion? If so, what was the outcome?

Hmm, I don't think so. I know there was a time with 2 demo's and I think at the start 2 medics as well...

I seem to remember a clip on well, with 2 heavys, 2 medics and 2 demos...

Not good times. Since you can't ever push without uber, boring as hell.

Koobadoobs · 08-07-2012, 08:29 PM

by the time you have four demos, the weaknesses of a single demo are cancelled out by the other three. scout? well, there are a max of 32 stickies strewn across the battlefield, he'd get nowhere near close to the demos. sniper? he'd need to charge his shot, which is enough time for one or two demos to bomb him. no other class gets even close to damaging a single one of the demos. combined with two meds, they'll all maintain buffs easily and a team can even potentially do a kritz+uber demo push, which would be monstrous. if both teams had this setup, the game would literally be decided by pills and a team would never push even a little without an uber. No more "demo down, no more sticky traps" now there's a sticky trap in every place you can think of and four pills are flying at your face all the time.

Hypnos RPM · 08-07-2012, 09:33 PM

Before the limits, the teams basically looked like 1-2 medics, 2-3 demos and the remainder being made up of whatever class your team figured would be best for covering the demos (soldiers, scouts, sometimes heavies).

It made for a very slow game.

my_fist · 08-08-2012, 04:34 PM

One demo can out-damage two soldiers combined. That is why

Soodle · 08-13-2012, 08:45 PM

triple demo 3 kritzkrieg medic

Cuttlefishes · 08-18-2012, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Hypnos RPM

Before the limits, the teams basically looked like 1-2 medics, 2-3 demos and the remainder being made up of whatever class your team figured would be best for covering the demos (soldiers, scouts, sometimes heavies).

It made for a very slow game.

Are there any VODs/casts of these older games?

µR¼ · 08-19-2012, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Cuttlefishes

Are there any VODs/casts of these older games?

There's clips in auto-aim (by jh) where he's in ctf_well with 2 medics 2 heavies.

Cuttlefishes · 08-20-2012, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by µR¼

There's clips in auto-aim (by jh) where he's in ctf_well with 2 medics 2 heavies.

Yeah, I know! Seen those, there's a clip of that on Goldrush too. But any actual casts?

vber · 08-20-2012, 02:49 AM

I think ETF2L Radio has casted some but I don't know if they saved them. (But yeah, there were no any vods because nobody weren't even thinking about streaming at that time)

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poiuyt1587 Join Date: Aug 2012 Reputation: 0 Posts: 6	Class Cap This is just a quick question: I know that there is a cap at 1 medic and 1 demo per 6v6 team. Something about wanting to speed up the pace of play by reducing the amount of healing and area denial. What I want to know is, if this class cap didn't exist, what would the team consist of? Thanks in advance for your input!

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08-07-2012, 06:04 PM	#2
Sdciter Join Date: Dec 2009 Reputation: 7 Posts: 86	demoman demoman demoman demoman medic medic

08-07-2012, 06:12 PM	#3
Not_Matlock Join Date: Dec 2008 Reputation: 588 Posts: 4,688	Yeah. Without the class limits the game would be nothing but demospam.

08-07-2012, 08:29 PM	#6
Koobadoobs Join Date: Jul 2011 Reputation: 355 Posts: 2,119	by the time you have four demos, the weaknesses of a single demo are cancelled out by the other three. scout? well, there are a max of 32 stickies strewn across the battlefield, he'd get nowhere near close to the demos. sniper? he'd need to charge his shot, which is enough time for one or two demos to bomb him. no other class gets even close to damaging a single one of the demos. combined with two meds, they'll all maintain buffs easily and a team can even potentially do a kritz+uber demo push, which would be monstrous. if both teams had this setup, the game would literally be decided by pills and a team would never push even a little without an uber. No more "demo down, no more sticky traps" now there's a sticky trap in every place you can think of and four pills are flying at your face all the time.

08-07-2012, 09:33 PM	#7
Hypnos RPM Join Date: Aug 2010 Reputation: 75 Posts: 904	Before the limits, the teams basically looked like 1-2 medics, 2-3 demos and the remainder being made up of whatever class your team figured would be best for covering the demos (soldiers, scouts, sometimes heavies). It made for a very slow game.

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my_fist Join Date: May 2009 Reputation: 196 Posts: 1,642	One demo can out-damage two soldiers combined. That is why

08-13-2012, 08:45 PM	#9
Soodle Join Date: Sep 2008 Reputation: 13 Posts: 926	triple demo 3 kritzkrieg medic

08-20-2012, 02:49 AM	#13
vber Join Date: Aug 2012 Reputation: 7 Posts: 6	I think ETF2L Radio has casted some but I don't know if they saved them. (But yeah, there were no any vods because nobody weren't even thinking about streaming at that time)