Trade used games

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I know this isn't possible, but atleast let us trade games that aren't played at all.

[MartinKhan]

Originally Posted by MrTAToad

Cutlery, houses, land. And thats not including companies...

I'm sorry, but no. All of that must be maintained in some form. Cutlery deteriorates with time, it oxidates if it's made of metal, and plastic cutlery breaks easily. Houses have to be repaired from time to time. And land, well, if you throw radioactive waste on it, it won't be much useful after that.

Originally Posted by h0rnytoad1

all those agains't this idea must be working for valve.

i'm all for trading games. especially crappy games that swindled you into buying them by fancy cool advertising.

when you pay them once steam makes money. they don't need to make money again.

once is enough.

What you're basically saying is that with selling only one product they should be fine. Sure! Let's sell only one copy of the game, that costed thousands of dollars to make, and then allow people to trade it. We already made $50, right?

Originally Posted by h0rnytoad1

what if you have a game on cd that's not steam? you have a friend over and give it to him. Everybody wins, you make room in your collection for new games, and he gets a game he's never played. and the company still have my money that i paid in full when the game came out.

who looses here really?

the company still has my money why would they get more for giving a old used game?

The developer loses a potential sale. Let's say the game was at $50. Instead of making $100, they only made $50. Now let's say your friend gives it to another friend. The dev lost $100. And so on.

Originally Posted by h0rnytoad1

its like giving money to the car company that made my car for trading it in in a few years. i paid it once directly to them, they don't get money again just because a car changes hands. rediculous.

Comparing digital goods (Steam games) to physical goods isn't a good analogy, since physical goods deteriorate over time. The car company still makes money by selling spare parts, and selling new cars. Let's face it, a car bought today won't be as good in 10 years. A game bought on Steam today, however, might even be better in 10 years (with updates and such).

Originally Posted by h0rnytoad1

its very simple, i own it i play it, what about all those games that make you feel cheated you bought that crap ? isn't much fairness in selling a crappy game with a great advertising budget is it? if it really irks you that you got swindled then you just throw the game in the trash. if you sell it on ebay you don't give the company money, you try to make it back.

I'm sorry, but if you bought a crappy game it's your fault. There's no need to buy every game on release. Just wait a few weeks, and see the general opinion of the game.

Originally Posted by h0rnytoad1

Hey 60$ in the real world is a really nice diner with your gf or don't you have girlfriends ?

And so what? What if people have or don't have girlfriends? (Or boyfriends, in the case there are any girls here.) People decide what to spend their money on.

Originally Posted by h0rnytoad1

this would just be the same as giving away a crappy music Cd because you just bought it cuz you like the artist then realize hey this cd sucks.

Once again, make sure to do a little research about what you're going to buy.

Originally Posted by h0rnytoad1

so i bought the game, i want to be able to trade it in because its mine. its not a license its a game. if you see the world as licenses you're not normal. you must be a corporate stooge or a lawyer.

Yes, every piece of software you buy is a license. You don't own the software you buy, only the person who made it owns it. You only purchase a license. It has been like this since way before Steam even existed. Of course, it couldn't be enforced at first, but that's the way it is.

[Ling.wis.yer]

I still think www.greenmangaming.com 's solution to trading a used game is the best as the gamer gets a small return on games that they no longer play and devs don't lose sales.

Originally Posted by MrTAToad

There is a nice bit about quality as well - something that the new Tom Clancy's Future Soldier game would fall foul off...

The "quality" that you're talking about would be that of "ranking" or "score" rather than the quality that would be stated in a law which would be how well it works, how easy is it to break and so on. And about the returning/deleting of content, I'm sure there is a line in the Steam user agreement about that, as I've seen similar lines in/on digital products.

Originally Posted by MrTAToad

so i bought the game, i want to be able to trade it in because its mine. its not a license its a game.

If you actually bought a game, in the technical sense, you'd be obtaining the source code for it and all rights that go with its ip, which alone costs millions for sequels and such.