Does using a Trainer count as cheating?

ellnic · 09-06-2012, 08:09 AM

Well I have compleated the masseffect series a few times now but I keep going back to the 1st game to change dissision on ME2 and ME3 but its taking too long. The fact I have to play them over again isn't an issue as i quite anjoy it but I would like to just spped through them and thats where the trainers come in.

Would using one of these get me a steam ban:
http://www.cheathappens.com/13879-PC-Mass_Effect_cheats

I know it not so much a VAC issue but I dont know where else to ask.

restlessgamer75 · 09-06-2012, 08:19 AM

VAC doesn't ban as long as it doesn't alter any of DLL files if it's a seperate program make sure you close and reboot your pc before you play another VAC protected game

~SW · 09-06-2012, 08:22 AM

Mass Effect isn't a VAC secured game. You'll be fine. Just make sure you don't have the trainer running when you load into a VAC secured game server like CoD, CS, TF2, that kinda thing & you won't have any problems.

As a time saver maybe check out: http://www.masseffectsaves.com/

They have a bunch of saves with various decisions so that you can check out the effects without having to do all of them yourself, heh.

ellnic · 09-06-2012, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by restlessgamer75

VAC doesn't ban as long as it doesn't alter any of DLL files if it's a seperate program make sure you close and reboot your pc before you play another VAC protected game

Thanks. I will do, cheers for the heads up

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~SW

Mass Effect isn't a VAC secured game. You'll be fine. Just make sure you don't have the trainer running when you load into a VAC secured game server like CoD, CS, TF2, that kinda thing & you won't have any problems.

Thank you as well.

ultrapwner · 09-25-2012, 05:27 AM

I would not do it, they can contain viruses and leave processes that Can ban you.

Satoru · 09-25-2012, 09:57 AM

1) A trainers is a cheat
2) If you use a trainer in a VAC enabled game you WILL BE VAC BANNED
3) "cheats" "hacks" "trainers" are another name for "program that will probably steal your account credentials"

USE SUCH PROGRAMS AT YOUR OWN RISK

dark lord · 09-25-2012, 09:23 PM

Its kinda 50/50 chances that you might get a ban, up to you to see if you wanna take the risk

njord199 · 10-06-2012, 01:57 AM

I wouldn't be too concerned about VAC I'd be more concerned about the trainer. There are a lot of trainers out there that contain more viruses than a russian biological weapon.

I'm not saying don't use it just make sure the source you're getting it from seems legit and see if people have encountered problems with it or not.

Nekomancer · 10-06-2012, 02:35 AM

http://forums.steampowered.com/forum....php?t=2956833
Well, in light of this thread, i'd avoid using trainers for other games while VAC is running.

MonkeySeeker · 10-06-2012, 03:55 AM

The Cheathappens trainers you mentioned will not steal your account info or give you a virus - as long as it's a genuine trainer from their site. However as has been said make sure you close the trainer before running a VAC enabled game.

Also there is masseffect2saves, or you can use the Gibbed Save Editor to edit save games:

You can get the last "official" release and the modified xbox compatible version from here.

nrnoble · 10-07-2012, 08:13 AM

What works for me is not to cheat. It truly is that simple.

General Jameson · 10-07-2012, 08:33 AM

Well considering the games are single player and NOT VAC protected at all I think it would be quite challenging to get VAC banned in a game that done not have the system in place.

So in conclusion, today we learned that games without VAC can not give you a VAC ban. The third post in the thread stated this fact.

grigore · 10-07-2012, 01:18 PM

I can confirm *personally* that a CH trainer for ME2 will *not* give you a VAC Ban.
Such is the case with most *clean* trainers for SP games(especially games that do not have VAC enabled).

Terminations · 10-07-2012, 11:20 PM

Wow, people keep asking the same thing over, over, over, over again and people keep answering the same thing over, over, over again.

The point is...., that a question like this has been asked a 'billion' times and answered a 'billion' times.

Interesting how this forum has become kind of like a spam forum due to users not searching.

Mastur Cheef · 10-23-2012, 08:02 PM

You won't get banned for doing something that happens in singleplayer, the only way you can actually get banned is by placing weird ♥♥♥ files into your Mass Effect folders and then playing that game. Even then you won't get VAC banned because it's not modifying Multiplayer, only modifying singleplayer. Now using cheats in multiplayer is a completely different topic, you will obviously get banned for using cheats on multiplayer, no matter how you get and/or use the cheats.

09-06-2012, 08:09 AM	#1
ellnic Join Date: Mar 2010 Reputation: 0 Posts: 26	Does using a Trainer count as cheating? Well I have compleated the masseffect series a few times now but I keep going back to the 1st game to change dissision on ME2 and ME3 but its taking too long. The fact I have to play them over again isn't an issue as i quite anjoy it but I would like to just spped through them and thats where the trainers come in. Would using one of these get me a steam ban: http://www.cheathappens.com/13879-PC-Mass_Effect_cheats I know it not so much a VAC issue but I dont know where else to ask.

09-06-2012, 08:22 AM	#3
~SW Join Date: Apr 2010 Reputation: 406 Posts: 647	Mass Effect isn't a VAC secured game. You'll be fine. Just make sure you don't have the trainer running when you load into a VAC secured game server like CoD, CS, TF2, that kinda thing & you won't have any problems. As a time saver maybe check out: http://www.masseffectsaves.com/ They have a bunch of saves with various decisions so that you can check out the effects without having to do all of them yourself, heh. Last edited by ~SW: 09-06-2012 at 08:24 AM.

10-07-2012, 08:33 AM	#12
General Jameson Join Date: Feb 2009 Reputation: 599 Posts: 2,010	Well considering the games are single player and NOT VAC protected at all I think it would be quite challenging to get VAC banned in a game that done not have the system in place. So in conclusion, today we learned that games without VAC can not give you a VAC ban. The third post in the thread stated this fact. Last edited by General Jameson: 10-07-2012 at 08:36 AM.

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09-06-2012, 08:19 AM	#2
restlessgamer75 Banned Join Date: Apr 2011 Reputation: 209 Posts: 1,022	VAC doesn't ban as long as it doesn't alter any of DLL files if it's a seperate program make sure you close and reboot your pc before you play another VAC protected game

09-25-2012, 05:27 AM	#5
ultrapwner Join Date: Feb 2011 Reputation: 155 Posts: 1,155	I would not do it, they can contain viruses and leave processes that Can ban you.

09-25-2012, 09:57 AM	#6
Satoru Join Date: Jul 2008 Reputation: 3146 Posts: 9,084	1) A trainers is a cheat 2) If you use a trainer in a VAC enabled game you WILL BE VAC BANNED 3) "cheats" "hacks" "trainers" are another name for "program that will probably steal your account credentials" USE SUCH PROGRAMS AT YOUR OWN RISK

09-25-2012, 09:23 PM	#7
dark lord Join Date: Jul 2010 Reputation: 6 Posts: 261	Its kinda 50/50 chances that you might get a ban, up to you to see if you wanna take the risk

10-06-2012, 01:57 AM	#8
njord199 Join Date: Nov 2011 Reputation: 12 Posts: 48	I wouldn't be too concerned about VAC I'd be more concerned about the trainer. There are a lot of trainers out there that contain more viruses than a russian biological weapon. I'm not saying don't use it just make sure the source you're getting it from seems legit and see if people have encountered problems with it or not.

10-06-2012, 02:35 AM	#9
Nekomancer Join Date: Mar 2008 Reputation: 2386 Posts: 15,164	http://forums.steampowered.com/forum....php?t=2956833 Well, in light of this thread, i'd avoid using trainers for other games while VAC is running.

10-06-2012, 03:55 AM	#10
MonkeySeeker Join Date: Apr 2010 Reputation: 1256 Posts: 2,192	The Cheathappens trainers you mentioned will not steal your account info or give you a virus - as long as it's a genuine trainer from their site. However as has been said make sure you close the trainer before running a VAC enabled game. Also there is masseffect2saves, or you can use the Gibbed Save Editor to edit save games: You can get the last "official" release and the modified xbox compatible version from here.

10-07-2012, 08:13 AM	#11
nrnoble Join Date: May 2008 Reputation: 1117 Posts: 7,631	What works for me is not to cheat. It truly is that simple.

10-07-2012, 01:18 PM	#13
grigore Join Date: May 2012 Reputation: 14 Posts: 90	I can confirm personally that a CH trainer for ME2 will not give you a VAC Ban. Such is the case with most clean trainers for SP games(especially games that do not have VAC enabled).

10-07-2012, 11:20 PM	#14
Terminations Join Date: Aug 2012 Reputation: 3 Posts: 79	Wow, people keep asking the same thing over, over, over, over again and people keep answering the same thing over, over, over again. The point is...., that a question like this has been asked a 'billion' times and answered a 'billion' times. Interesting how this forum has become kind of like a spam forum due to users not searching.

10-23-2012, 08:02 PM	#15
Mastur Cheef Join Date: Jul 2012 Reputation: 14 Posts: 23	You won't get banned for doing something that happens in singleplayer, the only way you can actually get banned is by placing weird ♥♥♥ files into your Mass Effect folders and then playing that game. Even then you won't get VAC banned because it's not modifying Multiplayer, only modifying singleplayer. Now using cheats in multiplayer is a completely different topic, you will obviously get banned for using cheats on multiplayer, no matter how you get and/or use the cheats.