Source Scaling

Heffernan · 09-13-2012, 11:21 AM

Hello,

i worked for HL1 mapping over 10years and it has env_model to add models to a map wich has a "scaling" command to resize models in ur maps

now in HL² theres no more env_models so i tried using npc_furniture but it doesnt have a Scaling command

any wayto scale models in SourceSDK aka Hammer without having to decompile it?

episoder · 09-13-2012, 11:34 AM

you could use prop_scalable. drawback is it makes the model nonsolid means you gotta do the collision stuff yourself with brushes. if it's not too complex it might be no problem tho.

Heffernan · 09-13-2012, 01:07 PM

Thanks, forgive my "noobness" but where do you ADD something here? theres no ADD button..

TH-Digi · 09-13-2012, 02:11 PM

Add to the outputs and target: $self
It will be red but ignore that because it works.

However, if it doesn't have a spawn trigger or something, you can always use a logic_auto to trigger it.

Heffernan · 09-13-2012, 04:31 PM

did it... but no changes in Hammer and no model showing up ingame.

Fredrikli · 09-14-2012, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TH-Digi

However, if it doesn't have a spawn trigger or something, you can always use a logic_auto to trigger it.

There's your hint! use another entity to trigger the scale output

Heffernan · 09-14-2012, 05:28 AM

ok...

i used a logic_auto now to trigger "11" (the model) but "via this input" doesnt recognize SetScaleX and shows ERROR (logic_auto) has bad I/O Connections :/

ProdigalMaster · 09-14-2012, 07:16 AM

Use the drop down list in 'Via this input' to look for something similar to SetScaleX (so you get the right syntax).

Heffernan · 09-14-2012, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProdigalMaster

Use the drop down list in 'Via this input' to look for something similar to SetScaleX (so you get the right syntax).

did nothing in there

Heffernan · 09-15-2012, 05:04 AM

tried again, theres no SetScale or similar to this in the logic_auto :/

TH-Digi · 09-16-2012, 12:05 AM

You used OnIgnite as trigger, do you really want the prop to get smaller when you set fire to it ?

The fields from 'Via this input' are limited by the target you're giving it, so make sure you're targeting the right entity... other than that, I dunno... maybe research:
https://developer.valvesoftware.com/...ts_and_Outputs
https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Prop_scalable

Heffernan · 09-16-2012, 03:56 AM

guess thats the problem...

"prop_scalable is a point entity available in all Source games since Episode Two. It creates a non-solid model that can be resized dynamically via inputs.

It is used in Episode Two for the "superportal" effects and the beginning and end of the game. "

im using it in Standard Halflife2 not Episode2, no wonder nothing will accept a SetScaleX/Y/Z

so theres NO way to scale it out of decompiling?

TH-Digi · 09-17-2012, 11:53 AM

If the entity is not in the FGD it's most likely that it won't work, so you shouldn't manually fill in entity names if you aren't sure they work.

But I guess there's no other way to do it but recompiling the model... you only need to decompile it, edit the .qc script to change the scale and recompile.

09-13-2012, 11:21 AM	#1
Heffernan Join Date: Nov 2008 Reputation: 0 Posts: 63	Source Scaling Hello, i worked for HL1 mapping over 10years and it has env_model to add models to a map wich has a "scaling" command to resize models in ur maps now in HL² theres no more env_models so i tried using npc_furniture but it doesnt have a Scaling command any wayto scale models in SourceSDK aka Hammer without having to decompile it?

09-13-2012, 04:31 PM	#5
Heffernan Join Date: Nov 2008 Reputation: 0 Posts: 63	did it... but no changes in Hammer and no model showing up ingame. Last edited by Heffernan: 09-13-2012 at 04:33 PM.

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09-13-2012, 11:34 AM	#2
episoder Join Date: Aug 2011 Reputation: 49 Posts: 1,120	you could use prop_scalable. drawback is it makes the model nonsolid means you gotta do the collision stuff yourself with brushes. if it's not too complex it might be no problem tho.

09-13-2012, 01:07 PM	#3
Heffernan Join Date: Nov 2008 Reputation: 0 Posts: 63	Thanks, forgive my "noobness" but where do you ADD something here? theres no ADD button..

09-13-2012, 02:11 PM	#4
TH-Digi Join Date: Dec 2010 Reputation: 0 Posts: 33	Add to the outputs and target: $self It will be red but ignore that because it works. However, if it doesn't have a spawn trigger or something, you can always use a logic_auto to trigger it.

09-14-2012, 05:28 AM	#7
Heffernan Join Date: Nov 2008 Reputation: 0 Posts: 63	ok... i used a logic_auto now to trigger "11" (the model) but "via this input" doesnt recognize SetScaleX and shows ERROR (logic_auto) has bad I/O Connections :/

09-14-2012, 07:16 AM	#8
ProdigalMaster Join Date: Oct 2008 Reputation: 16 Posts: 136	Use the drop down list in 'Via this input' to look for something similar to SetScaleX (so you get the right syntax).

09-15-2012, 05:04 AM	#10
Heffernan Join Date: Nov 2008 Reputation: 0 Posts: 63	tried again, theres no SetScale or similar to this in the logic_auto :/

09-16-2012, 12:05 AM	#11
TH-Digi Join Date: Dec 2010 Reputation: 0 Posts: 33	You used OnIgnite as trigger, do you really want the prop to get smaller when you set fire to it ? The fields from 'Via this input' are limited by the target you're giving it, so make sure you're targeting the right entity... other than that, I dunno... maybe research: https://developer.valvesoftware.com/...ts_and_Outputs https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Prop_scalable

09-16-2012, 03:56 AM	#12
Heffernan Join Date: Nov 2008 Reputation: 0 Posts: 63	guess thats the problem... "prop_scalable is a point entity available in all Source games since Episode Two. It creates a non-solid model that can be resized dynamically via inputs. It is used in Episode Two for the "superportal" effects and the beginning and end of the game. " im using it in Standard Halflife2 not Episode2, no wonder nothing will accept a SetScaleX/Y/Z so theres NO way to scale it out of decompiling?

09-17-2012, 11:53 AM	#13
TH-Digi Join Date: Dec 2010 Reputation: 0 Posts: 33	If the entity is not in the FGD it's most likely that it won't work, so you shouldn't manually fill in entity names if you aren't sure they work. But I guess there's no other way to do it but recompiling the model... you only need to decompile it, edit the .qc script to change the scale and recompile.