Are errors factored into the leaderboard?

TwRecks · 02-11-2011, 02:53 PM

As the title. I was just curious, mainly after noticing that I had 165 errors after 9198 puzzles, and everyone around me on the leaderboard has 1000+ errors heh. Does that factor into the score at all?

captain_video · 02-11-2011, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TwRecks

As the title. I was just curious, mainly after noticing that I had 165 errors after 9198 puzzles, and everyone around me on the leaderboard has 1000+ errors heh. Does that factor into the score at all?

Nope.

TwRecks · 02-11-2011, 09:53 PM

Aww... I realize that volume does matter a lot, but it would be nice if actually solving the puzzles *well* had an impact. Just sayin'...

On that note, still in curious mode, I looked at your stats heh. You, sir, are a god of quality control lol. 3100 puzzles, no errors... even if they are all Ocean that's still impressive.

captain_video · 02-17-2011, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by TwRecks

On that note, still in curious mode, I looked at your stats heh. You, sir, are a god of quality control lol. 3100 puzzles, no errors... even if they are all Ocean that's still impressive.

Well there is an asterisk. I originally purchased the game on CD, and played it extensively offline before I bought a copy on Steam. I've had problems with the Steam version, specifically a known bug that can reset your progress without warning when playing online, and which seems to like to bite specific people under specific circumstances. I got wiped no less than three separate times, as has been discussed in older threads, and I believe the devs are aware of the bug and hope to have a fix when they are finally able to release another patch for the game.

Instead of risking more wipes in the meantime, I set upon a quest to solve all puzzles in the game in sequence from the beginning, while playing offline. I've periodically pushed my most recent save file to the cloud in order to update my public stats. I got to 3100 in about 15 hours total play time back in early Dec, and then holiday schedule plus other gaming activities interrupted. I'll get back to it one of these days soon; the fun doesn't really begin until Ocean is put to bed (OMG, pun alert). I think the whole thing can be done in about 500 hours of play time, that's the target. So there is still a looong ways to go.

Mariox · 01-07-2012, 03:54 PM

It don't factor in, but I like looking at the stats of the people around me and top players. I have to discredit Mamacat because of how many error she/he has. When you have 12,330 errors on 200 puzzles in Beyond, 60 errors per puzzle indicates she/he not doing any solving.

I think they should add a Ave error to the scoreboard list.

captain_video · 01-08-2012, 01:00 AM

You lose points when you go over par for a puzzle. This isn't hard to do for the smaller puzzles, but almost impssible to do even if you're just guessing on the large puzzles, since the par scores are set so high. There are various players who have run their scores up by solving puzzles quickly using guesswork, and you see them with ridiculously high error counts. However, they've each made enough mistakes at lower levels to ensure they cannot reach a perfect score.

Alas, I don't think we're ever going to see a new patch for this game, so the scoring system we have now is what it is.

I also have to revise my time estimates given in a previous post in this old thread. I don't think the entire game can be solved normally in < 1000 hours by any expert.

TwRecks · 01-10-2012, 05:12 PM

I'm at 498 hours and on the first area of mountain + all the practice puzzles, but it's safe to say the second 3 regions are just a wee bit tougher than the first 3 lol. Some of those hours would be time under pause though, so 1000 hours in real time might be doable. I'll find out eventually one way or the other, but it will take a while.

cwangersky · 01-11-2012, 12:58 AM

It does slow down as you get further in... points per time is about constant, but later puzzles take longer to really solve. I've broken 1000 hours and I'm just about to complete Mountain...

Mariox · 02-27-2012, 06:54 PM

I like looking at the scores around mine. Sadly I have not played in over a year (much) and dropped from page 1 to page 4. Be nice if they made a new game and put in more accurate scoring. Instead of just par.

I can't believe people go threw and not bother to solve anything, and just guess.

cwangersky · 02-27-2012, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mariox

I can't believe people go threw and not bother to solve anything, and just guess.

I see that so often... people spend good money on a game, then just barrel through from one end to the other, with cheats, walkthroughs, and whatever. I guess, so they can say they've finished the game. What a waste of money, IMHO. You want to spend your hard earned on a game, fine... but then enjoy it already. Life is not a race.

<End rant>

captain_video · 02-28-2012, 08:43 AM

I'm a bit saddened by the fact that Ken and Squirrel seem to have abandoned us, because it would be an easy thing for them to fix, and they had talked once upon a time about making another patch to the game (to fix the stat page errors, and perhaps add in more content). I would pay for a DLC in an instant if that's what it took, but I don't know what their situation is now.

The guy who made his run to the #1 spot on the leaderboard made over 500,000 errors (!). For a while it looked like he was solving puzzles and making gradual progress, and then I guess something snapped and he randomly clicked his way through the rest to finish the game and claim his high score. But the joke will be on him, because his score isn't perfect and he will get passed by sooner or later. The only thing he can do then is start over.

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02-11-2011, 02:53 PM	#1
TwRecks Join Date: Jun 2010 Reputation: 103 Posts: 335	Are errors factored into the leaderboard? As the title. I was just curious, mainly after noticing that I had 165 errors after 9198 puzzles, and everyone around me on the leaderboard has 1000+ errors heh. Does that factor into the score at all?

02-11-2011, 09:53 PM	#3
TwRecks Join Date: Jun 2010 Reputation: 103 Posts: 335	Aww... I realize that volume does matter a lot, but it would be nice if actually solving the puzzles well had an impact. Just sayin'... On that note, still in curious mode, I looked at your stats heh. You, sir, are a god of quality control lol. 3100 puzzles, no errors... even if they are all Ocean that's still impressive.

01-07-2012, 03:54 PM	#5
Mariox Join Date: Sep 2008 Reputation: 12 Posts: 192	It don't factor in, but I like looking at the stats of the people around me and top players. I have to discredit Mamacat because of how many error she/he has. When you have 12,330 errors on 200 puzzles in Beyond, 60 errors per puzzle indicates she/he not doing any solving. I think they should add a Ave error to the scoreboard list.

01-08-2012, 01:00 AM	#6
captain_video Join Date: Aug 2010 Reputation: 203 Posts: 1,254	You lose points when you go over par for a puzzle. This isn't hard to do for the smaller puzzles, but almost impssible to do even if you're just guessing on the large puzzles, since the par scores are set so high. There are various players who have run their scores up by solving puzzles quickly using guesswork, and you see them with ridiculously high error counts. However, they've each made enough mistakes at lower levels to ensure they cannot reach a perfect score. Alas, I don't think we're ever going to see a new patch for this game, so the scoring system we have now is what it is. I also have to revise my time estimates given in a previous post in this old thread. I don't think the entire game can be solved normally in < 1000 hours by any expert.

01-10-2012, 05:12 PM	#7
TwRecks Join Date: Jun 2010 Reputation: 103 Posts: 335	I'm at 498 hours and on the first area of mountain + all the practice puzzles, but it's safe to say the second 3 regions are just a wee bit tougher than the first 3 lol. Some of those hours would be time under pause though, so 1000 hours in real time might be doable. I'll find out eventually one way or the other, but it will take a while.

01-11-2012, 12:58 AM	#8
cwangersky Join Date: Nov 2008 Reputation: 83 Posts: 332	It does slow down as you get further in... points per time is about constant, but later puzzles take longer to really solve. I've broken 1000 hours and I'm just about to complete Mountain...

02-27-2012, 06:54 PM	#9
Mariox Join Date: Sep 2008 Reputation: 12 Posts: 192	I like looking at the scores around mine. Sadly I have not played in over a year (much) and dropped from page 1 to page 4. Be nice if they made a new game and put in more accurate scoring. Instead of just par. I can't believe people go threw and not bother to solve anything, and just guess.

02-28-2012, 08:43 AM	#11
captain_video Join Date: Aug 2010 Reputation: 203 Posts: 1,254	I'm a bit saddened by the fact that Ken and Squirrel seem to have abandoned us, because it would be an easy thing for them to fix, and they had talked once upon a time about making another patch to the game (to fix the stat page errors, and perhaps add in more content). I would pay for a DLC in an instant if that's what it took, but I don't know what their situation is now. The guy who made his run to the #1 spot on the leaderboard made over 500,000 errors (!). For a while it looked like he was solving puzzles and making gradual progress, and then I guess something snapped and he randomly clicked his way through the rest to finish the game and claim his high score. But the joke will be on him, because his score isn't perfect and he will get passed by sooner or later. The only thing he can do then is start over.