Dota 2 Pool Punishment- not fair - Page 2

AnarkisZ · 06-19-2012, 05:45 AM

Yeah am AFK for Posting here leaving dota 2 window, Just have to click the Play button. when I got it says I already left. WTF... am getting tired here. I'll go back to war3.. TSk! BRB when theres no issue for BUGGING rules.

Shaneluls39199 · 06-19-2012, 06:35 AM

Just to clear some things up the system now is VERY flawed.

your gonna throw me in a low priority pool? with who knows how many others....its not really punishment when it only takes 3-8 mins longer to find a match. mind you its a pool of leavers but the pool is so huge theres really no cons to it as i still get matches very fast for being in low priority

AsheMan · 06-19-2012, 06:51 AM

It's either an extremely rare bug (never happened to me in 450 games), as you should never get an abandon if someone else abandons, or you really abandoned a game, forgot, and now think that you earned it from someone else leaving.

Were you partied with this person? If they abandon and then you queue up with them in the party, then you will be in the leaver's bracket because the leaver is in your party. You would exit it as soon as that leaver left your party.

It's clear from the OPs responses in this thread that he is likely the cause of his own abandonment bracket.

Huntzu · 08-03-2012, 02:33 AM

i think there is a bug with that "sanction" itself. i mean i have 200+ games played and 1 abandoned game which i got a few months ago and it was due to a technical problem and since yesterday i started getting the punishment pool message and i have no idea why.

Sly_Squash · 08-03-2012, 02:41 AM

Maybe post the MatchID so we can take a look? Most likely you just plain DC'ed before the game was safe to leave; even when another player dc's it takes a few minutes before the game is safe to leave.

TZK203 · 08-03-2012, 07:13 AM

I don't like how they added abandons to bot games.

AsheMan · 08-03-2012, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by TZK203

I don't like how they added abandons to bot games.

Only the 5-man vs. bots. You can still play a bot game by yourself and safely leave.

Lozer · 08-03-2012, 09:40 AM

Although it sucks to get leaver status due to technical issues, the game itself cannot be responsible for what was YOUR responsibility.

STEELCITY32 · 08-03-2012, 10:14 AM

It was not because of your teammate that you got an abandon. This simply doesn't happen. Either you left a game yourself (if you left after someone else did, but they came back before they got the abandon then you will get one), you afk'd, or you got reported and punished for something you did. It's not the game's fault, it's yours.

SmellyLethality · 08-03-2012, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Remember Pluto

It doesn't matter either way. You ruined a 30min to 1 hours of game play for 9 other players. You wasted 9 hours of peoples time they will never get back. If your connection isn't stable or is acting up you shouldn't be playing and if it random then it should happen more then 1 or 2 times in a few monthes.

Wouldn't be "ruined" if Valve was arsed to actually make DC'd characters AI controlled. At least it wouldn't be 4v5 the rest of the game if he doesn't come back.

Sly_Squash · 08-03-2012, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SmellyLethality

Wouldn't be "ruined" if Valve was arsed to actually make DC'd characters AI controlled. At least it wouldn't be 4v5 the rest of the game if he doesn't come back.

Even that is problematic. The AI is either too good (particularly in that sometimes AI uses "cheating" algorithms that see in the fog of war or split-second reactions) or too bad (an AI controlled feeder is arguably worse than what it currently does, which is direct the nonplayer straight back to the fountain).

It's just plain good that players are punished suitably for abandoning and ruining matches.

06-19-2012, 06:51 AM	#18
AsheMan Join Date: Jun 2010 Reputation: 2504 Posts: 2,804	It's either an extremely rare bug (never happened to me in 450 games), as you should never get an abandon if someone else abandons, or you really abandoned a game, forgot, and now think that you earned it from someone else leaving. Were you partied with this person? If they abandon and then you queue up with them in the party, then you will be in the leaver's bracket because the leaver is in your party. You would exit it as soon as that leaver left your party. It's clear from the OPs responses in this thread that he is likely the cause of his own abandonment bracket. Last edited by AsheMan: 06-19-2012 at 06:53 AM.

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06-19-2012, 05:45 AM	#16
AnarkisZ Join Date: Jun 2012 Reputation: 0 Posts: 0	Yeah am AFK for Posting here leaving dota 2 window, Just have to click the Play button. when I got it says I already left. WTF... am getting tired here. I'll go back to war3.. TSk! BRB when theres no issue for BUGGING rules.

06-19-2012, 06:35 AM	#17
Shaneluls39199 Join Date: Nov 2010 Reputation: 108 Posts: 953	Just to clear some things up the system now is VERY flawed. your gonna throw me in a low priority pool? with who knows how many others....its not really punishment when it only takes 3-8 mins longer to find a match. mind you its a pool of leavers but the pool is so huge theres really no cons to it as i still get matches very fast for being in low priority

08-03-2012, 02:33 AM	#19
Huntzu Join Date: May 2012 Reputation: 0 Posts: 5	i think there is a bug with that "sanction" itself. i mean i have 200+ games played and 1 abandoned game which i got a few months ago and it was due to a technical problem and since yesterday i started getting the punishment pool message and i have no idea why.

08-03-2012, 02:41 AM	#20
Sly_Squash Join Date: Jul 2009 Reputation: 208 Posts: 788	Maybe post the MatchID so we can take a look? Most likely you just plain DC'ed before the game was safe to leave; even when another player dc's it takes a few minutes before the game is safe to leave.

08-03-2012, 07:13 AM	#21
TZK203 Join Date: Aug 2009 Reputation: 928 Posts: 1,728	I don't like how they added abandons to bot games.

08-03-2012, 09:40 AM	#23
Lozer Join Date: Apr 2005 Reputation: 726 Posts: 512	Although it sucks to get leaver status due to technical issues, the game itself cannot be responsible for what was YOUR responsibility.

08-03-2012, 10:14 AM	#24
STEELCITY32 Join Date: Feb 2010 Reputation: 809 Posts: 3,570	It was not because of your teammate that you got an abandon. This simply doesn't happen. Either you left a game yourself (if you left after someone else did, but they came back before they got the abandon then you will get one), you afk'd, or you got reported and punished for something you did. It's not the game's fault, it's yours.