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Old 05-05-2012, 09:44 AM   #136
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-snip- Gee, this is starting to sound an awful lot like an EULA, isn't it?
...No, it isn't sounding like EULA. EULA doesn't need any reason at all, and can handle the situation in any way they see fit.

It would be perfectly legal for VALVe to, right now, completely ban my Steam account and access to all Steam games for literally no reason at all. It would also be perfectly legal for VALVe to, say, change the appearance of a character in TF2 to something completely ridiculous that I may not agree with.

It would be legal for my car (or at least, my license) to be taken away if I drove drunk, because I violated the law that I agreed to upon gaining my license (would you complain if your license got taken away for drunk driving? I wouldn't). It would not be legal for the company that I bought my car from to paint my car pink after I had already purchased it.

The terms that come with purchasing games on Steam and the terms that come with purchasing/operating a motor vehicle do not follow the same procedure. Thus, your comparison between VALVe adding hats to TF2 and a car company painting someone's car without their permission simply doesn't work.

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seriously, why the hell are you even arguing with me since you already have your way to begin with?
Because you're wrong.

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Go back to playing with your hats.
Because when I said "it continues to entertain me as a First Person Shooter", what I really meant was "it continues to entertain me as a hat simulator."

Maybe try refuting what I actually said instead of putting words in my mouth.

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Old 05-05-2012, 09:55 PM   #137
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Because you're wrong.
Am I now? Well then, Mr. Right, if you value the EULA so much, answer me this. Have you read and adhered to every EULA on every piece of software you own? Do you legitimately own every piece of software you have now, and have had at any point in your life? Have you ever shared an mp3? Have you reported every single person you know that's violated an EULA or shared a file illegally or pirated any piece of software to the appropriate authorities? If you cannot answer yes to all this 100% honestly then you have no grounds to use the EULA as a club just because I have a freaking OPINION that differs from yours about how the game should be. I am also of the OPINION that you're nothing but a self-righteous forum troll, but hey, I could be wrong about that too.
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Old 05-05-2012, 11:04 PM   #138
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If you cannot answer yes to all this 100% honestly then you have no grounds to use the EULA as a club just because I have a freaking OPINION that differs from yours about how the game should be.
Whoa, whoa, whoa. What? I honestly have no idea what you're going on about now. Are you saying that the facts I stated can't be correct because I probably don't follow EULA to a T?

My original point was that your comparison between buying/owning a car and buying/owning TF2 didn't work. How well I personally follow any terms or laws has no bearing whatsoever on the validity of my claims. Even if every piece of equipment I owned was pirated, that wouldn't somehow magically make your comparison any more sensical.

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I am also of the OPINION that you're nothing but a self-righteous forum troll, but hey, I could be wrong about that too.
Troll =/= Someone who disagrees with you. I have done nothing to troll you.
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Old 05-05-2012, 11:42 PM   #139
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Ahahaha, this thread.
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Old 05-06-2012, 12:02 AM   #140
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Haven't crashed since I upgraded my machine, maybe you should do the same 8)
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Old 05-06-2012, 12:12 PM   #141
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Well let's see...I was crashing everyday until I got a raise at work. Now everything works perfectly all by itself without any changes or reinstalls on my part. Therefore, these technical issues are clearly a judgement on your character. Repent.
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Old 05-06-2012, 12:15 PM   #142
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Well let's see...I was crashing everyday until I got a raise at work. Now everything works perfectly all by itself without any changes or reinstalls on my part. Therefore, these technical issues are clearly a judgement on your character. Repent.
REPENT!!! TOBOR IS NIGH!!
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Old 05-06-2012, 12:27 PM   #143
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Not for one thing or another, but not all crashes are due to shoddy coding. If it happens to everyone (like that nightmare a few months ago) then sure, blame Valve. But my game has been pretty stable since the last couple of updates, and I don't see others crashing anymore either.

Chances are, it is your hardware (or software) that is to blame, not valve.
So glad your game has been stable, For others it has'nt been stable since Uber update. My hardware is to blame, but only because valve has yet to fix a problem with my video cards interacting with TF2.
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Old 05-10-2012, 04:44 PM   #144
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Ahahaha, this thread.
ikr
I've only looked at it twice since I made it
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Old 05-10-2012, 04:46 PM   #145
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ikr
I've only looked at it twice since I made it
And yet you necro'd it.
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Old 05-10-2012, 05:47 PM   #146
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Why fix something when people are willing to dump buckets or money your way for the broken product.

People for at least the last 2 decades, maybe longer, have forgotten how to vote with their money.
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Old 05-11-2012, 10:10 AM   #147
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This problem has been happening for a while now... It started after a game update and affects a large range of nVidia card users. The big forgotten and ignored by valve thread : http://forums.steampowered.com/forum...774666&page=71
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Old 05-11-2012, 10:14 AM   #148
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don't use nVidea or whatever
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Old 05-11-2012, 10:16 AM   #149
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Well let's see...I was crashing everyday until I got a raise at work. Now everything works perfectly all by itself without any changes or reinstalls on my part. Therefore, these technical issues are clearly a judgement on your character. Repent.
lol

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