This Unlockable System Is Counterproductive, and STUPID

dieffenbachj · 05-21-2009, 07:57 PM

UPDATE
From ShackNews:

Quote:

Valve's Robin Walker explains to RPS:
"As in everything else we do, we want to iterate, so this is really the first step towards our desired implementation," said Walker. "We also think we have bugs in the system as well, since we're seeing some players not finding any items after a few hours of play, which is not at all how it’s tuned. We want unlockable drops to be a pretty regular occurrence for players, with the cosmetic hats being the rare finds."

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And I'll tell you why.

They removed unlockable's being gotten through achievements, because it was 'newbie unfriendly' and it 'encouraged grinding'.

Well GUESS WHAT Valve?

NOW, you've created a system where not only do I have to grind for hours and hours and HOURS on end if I even want to GET those items, but I won't even get the right items!

I WILL GET ONE I ALREADY HAVE.

The boards are filling with these people complaining that they are getting double natascha, double blutsauger. You know what I want? The cloak and dagger. I want the huntsman. I don't want some ♥♥♥♥ing garbage I already have. I don't want to have to grind 24/7 for weeks on end JUST TO GET A SINGLE UNLOCKABLE ITEM.

That's what this amounts to.

Valve, review your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ logic:

"We don't want people to grind, and we want newbies to be able to get items! So, we made it much, much harder to get items, and you won't even get the RIGHT items! Lololol we're so smart!"

FuzzMaster · 05-21-2009, 07:59 PM

Agreed completely. What the hell is the point of a massive class update if we can't experience it.

Bakin · 05-21-2009, 08:00 PM

Agreed

10agrees

tiedie · 05-21-2009, 08:01 PM

+2

10 hoursspentplayingtoearnitemsialreadyhave

Calvin · 05-21-2009, 08:02 PM

♥♥♥♥, calm down.

It hasn't even been a day yet.

da10x · 05-21-2009, 08:02 PM

+1
/10failupdates

SPEArman · 05-21-2009, 08:02 PM

Agreed. like WTF i played for 5 mins as a spy, HOPING to pick up a spy item, and i get natasha, yea thanks but i got all the heavy unlockables.

Trenith · 05-21-2009, 08:03 PM

I'm fine with triple wielding Axstinguisher.

PLEASE change the drop system.

DMW · 05-21-2009, 08:04 PM

This new system is completely noob friendly, because new people probably don't have any of the updates. So getting any weapon is a plus.

Tgump Reborn · 05-21-2009, 08:05 PM

Signed etc etc...

kinjiru · 05-21-2009, 08:05 PM

Where is it explained how this system even works? I didn't see it in the update notes.

daedalus275 · 05-21-2009, 08:06 PM

Sig Ned

10Sig Neds

Elementalos · 05-21-2009, 08:07 PM

the new system is getting explained tomorrow.. and yeah. thanks a lot to all the people who complained about acheivements

dsi1 · 05-21-2009, 08:07 PM

If only we could get points from multiple weapon pick-ups of the same type, and then you could go to some sort of store and 'buy' the weapons you actually WANT. (Sorry I started playing MGS4 again)

But seriously, the new 'grinding server' is just SITTING IN SPAWN, IN ANY SERVER. At least you had to be IN-GAME to get the weapons the old way.

teabagganear · 05-21-2009, 08:07 PM

I agree wholeheartedly. I had 32 kills and I only got the KGB, what the eff. Then some other kid came on got one kill and got the ambassador. This sytem sucks. I liked the achivements better.

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05-21-2009, 07:59 PM	#2
FuzzMaster Join Date: Oct 2007 Reputation: 20 Posts: 607	Agreed completely. What the hell is the point of a massive class update if we can't experience it.

05-21-2009, 08:00 PM	#3
Bakin Join Date: May 2009 Reputation: 0 Posts: 18	Agreed 10agrees

05-21-2009, 08:01 PM	#4
tiedie Join Date: Jun 2006 Reputation: 6 Posts: 643	+2 10 hoursspentplayingtoearnitemsialreadyhave

05-21-2009, 08:02 PM	#5
Calvin Join Date: Feb 2009 Reputation: 12 Posts: 132	♥♥♥♥, calm down. It hasn't even been a day yet.

05-21-2009, 08:02 PM	#6
da10x Join Date: Mar 2008 Reputation: 2 Posts: 320	+1 /10failupdates

05-21-2009, 08:02 PM	#7
SPEArman Join Date: May 2009 Reputation: 0 Posts: 32	Agreed. like WTF i played for 5 mins as a spy, HOPING to pick up a spy item, and i get natasha, yea thanks but i got all the heavy unlockables.

05-21-2009, 08:03 PM	#8
Trenith Join Date: Mar 2009 Reputation: 14 Posts: 478	I'm fine with triple wielding Axstinguisher. PLEASE change the drop system.

05-21-2009, 08:04 PM	#9
DMW Join Date: May 2009 Reputation: 1 Posts: 110	This new system is completely noob friendly, because new people probably don't have any of the updates. So getting any weapon is a plus.

05-21-2009, 08:05 PM	#10
Tgump Reborn Join Date: Jul 2008 Reputation: 17 Posts: 376	Signed etc etc...

05-21-2009, 08:05 PM	#11
kinjiru Join Date: Dec 2008 Reputation: 0 Posts: 66	Where is it explained how this system even works? I didn't see it in the update notes.

05-21-2009, 08:06 PM	#12
daedalus275 Join Date: Dec 2008 Reputation: 0 Posts: 45	Sig Ned 10Sig Neds

05-21-2009, 08:07 PM	#13
Elementalos Join Date: Oct 2008 Reputation: 7 Posts: 908	the new system is getting explained tomorrow.. and yeah. thanks a lot to all the people who complained about acheivements

05-21-2009, 08:07 PM	#14
dsi1 Join Date: Aug 2006 Reputation: 19 Posts: 1,069	If only we could get points from multiple weapon pick-ups of the same type, and then you could go to some sort of store and 'buy' the weapons you actually WANT. (Sorry I started playing MGS4 again) But seriously, the new 'grinding server' is just SITTING IN SPAWN, IN ANY SERVER. At least you had to be IN-GAME to get the weapons the old way.

05-21-2009, 08:07 PM	#15
teabagganear Join Date: May 2008 Reputation: 0 Posts: 330	I agree wholeheartedly. I had 32 kills and I only got the KGB, what the eff. Then some other kid came on got one kill and got the ambassador. This sytem sucks. I liked the achivements better.